New Kill Team I WAS WRONG | Models and Memories Weekly #69

In this episode of Model and Memories Jay talks about the new models Games Workshop is showing off, and working on Mars Attacks this week. We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday! We're streaming Monday-Saturday starting at 9PM CST!! JOIN USSSS! Thanks for watching!
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[@sunburn7088]

Episode 69 when you reached 100k, the stars have aligned

[@Bog_Dog]

Nice

[@giuliozilli4302]

Truly noice!

[@1froggyboi402]

Woooooo yeah baby that’s what we’ve been waiting for woooo

[@djvertical]

I want to like the comment, but then that would the 69 gag 😄

[@chyeeeeee]

69 likes in this comment at the time of this comment...

[@The_Rage_Kage]

If they keep making new or bringing back old Guard Regiments of Guard in Kill Team, I'm all for it. Lets get some Valhallan Ice Warriors baby.

[@carcionpetto]

I hope to see other factions get love too at some point

[@alexmaysse607]

You know what would be really cool Armageddon ork hunters that would absolutely never happen but a man can dream

[@Diceslice]

Vostroyan firstborn is what I would want!

[@batmandalorian5504]

Jay, I'm surprised you didn't mention how they just took the tan sand board for Kill Team and instead used it in the Warcry box - for swampland lol ...

[@DellamorteDellamore0]

To answer your question about Blood Bowl, you will just need a new rule book to play the current rules of Blood Bowl. A Pass stat was introduced in the 2020 edition. The rest of your pitch, tokens, minis, dice and templates from the 2016 box behind you will all be compatible.

[@elrondorio]

yes get the new hardback rulebook - it contains everything! Except the newer Dungeonbowl and Spike! magazine stuff released later (there's a book for that too.)

[@anthonyfanthony7815]

Goliath is just a Brute chopper from halo, still looks neat

[@sanguinius1284]

Well if you think about it, they are in a spaceship which typically is tight space ( usually) . Not to mention that you wouldn't want to penetrate the hull while fighting. Not to mention shotty covers a wide area so makes sense for them. to have shotguns.

[@eastoforion]

shotguns are very common real world ship weapons!

[@BigFrenchNose]

Jay was spot on, I fell in love with the breachers and was actually looking forward to painting them bright copper or bronze with oxidation everywhere with the tech green paint.

[@catcadev]

I think the breachers have shotguns as they're going into tight corridors with quick turns, also very short corridors. If that isn't perfect for shotguns I don't know what are.

[@JezielProdigalSon]

Underworlds is one of the best and smoothest gameplay experiences, GW has to offer. Its also heaven for a painter.

[@arkaea8121]

I agree! I love being able to paint small groups for some of the armies that I've always been interested or curious about but didnt want to invest in a full unit of troops. Warcry and killteam are great for that reason too.

[@ArynCrinn]

It's just amazing that it took ~40 warbands to give us a warband of "mortal" humans who are still loyal to Sigmar... Even Skaven have had 2 warbands. More Mortals for the Mortal Realms please.

[@heatherford7905]

Yes, I'll finally get to use my Imperial Pilot from the Battle of(for?) McCragge(sic) boxed set. I've had that mini forever with no rules.

[@vurrunna]

15:12 I love how Jay says he hopes it's a few, remembers what he said about being wrong about releases, and changes course to say it'll probably only be one. Now that's character consistency.

[@petermartin9224]

It was nice to see the Amazons get a refresh for bb, they'd been stuck with metel minis for a good while now. Maybe some of the other teams like it will get a boost. As for the rules, the biggest change was that they added the passing ability stat. So you just need a copy of the 2020 rules for the updated team rules (or battlescribe) from what I recall, most of the rules are the same. Dungeon Bowl is also fun

[@edneragnarok]

Recently found your channel, been watching your videos while putting my 9 month old daughter to sleep and while building my novitiates kill team. Just getting into 40k for the first time, and I’ve really enjoyed your videos. Thank you!

[@brokenheroics8223]

I been counting down the episodes until this one....I was not disappointed about the episode ##

[@serse8455]

Episode 69? A KROOT kill team?! Praise the Emperor! (p.s. I want max units of the small kroot hound doggo)

[@77loka]

Beautiful paint job on the Martians, not disaaaaaapoiiinteeeed...

[@originalarmedprophet7760]

“It’s not as much as Games Workshop could have charged you…” Stop giving them ideas!

[@celambor]

I know plenty of people are criticizing the old kroot hounds, but I recently painted one to take a break from my Tyranid army and it was a blast to paint The sculpt isn't overloaded with details, the face is way more birdlike, the eyes are a bit more shallow, it's a simple miniature which opens up to plenty of different paintjob

[@xRedJacketManx]

As For Bloodbowl all you’d need at that point would be the new rule book since some things are a little different. But nothings stopping you from using the old one. Also they tend to reveal the new star players once a week after the teams been revealed for hype.

[@michaelcasteel9307]

The Nurgle squad is so nice and somewhat unique. That’s certainly my favorite.

[@maugan37]

Congrats on 100k subs Jay & Nick. I haven't actually played a GW game or painted for about 15 years, but I love your channel, your positivity is awesome. I look forward to saying congrats again at the 200k mark, keep up the amazing work team!

[@Narcomancer1943]

The ‘How’ this episode should’ve been a moan in commemoration for episode 69. Although can’t imagine YT would love that. Congrats for getting this far! 420 next 🤣

[@zacharyglenn7110]

I like your videos a lot, I'm always interested in your thoughts

[@SwordsandBrushes]

oh dude well done on reaching 100K thats amazing!!! also "Warhammer Underpants" - comedy gold! haha

[@Sacdaddicus]

Glad to be here on this historic episode. Keep crushing it, because now we need to get through 351 more episodes!

[@jakeriley6881]

A snake person without arms is just a snake.

[@Teufeltusken]

5.23 I think the tire-less version of the bike is supposed to be like jaws, that you munch foes with. Perhaps a paint job that emphasised the pointy gears and darkened the inner section would make it look more fearsome that way?

[@jonniesaur]

Best part of the ork into: the idea that an ork boy wouldn’t just choose an ork army but an (all be very messy) i SM army!

[@analbertawolfmaninbc5453]

Painted my old Kasrkin as Imperial Navy Armsmen to go with my Imperial Navy Advisor. Gonna have to get my hands on these!

[@christyrogers7707]

Those breachers are old skool Cylons from Battlestar Galactica or speeder bike pilots with three quarter length trench coats on!

[@aaronbrown4275]

Mars Attacks was a great game! You can also use the Martians as a team in Dreadball. They excel at cheating and the whole team can potentially go on a uncontrollable kill frenzy when one takes out an opposing player, which is hilarious.

[@grimbostink7607]

The hallowed episode. We are all blessed on this day

[@philurbaniak1811]

10:23 A lop bam boo! 👍😁

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

There was a Sslyth “snake person” that was part of the Dark Eldar range- I don’t know if they’re still available.

[@richmcgee434]

The resin Archon's Court figs are all gone from the webstore. Anyone looking for something suitable (and better sculpted) for a proxy would do well to look through the Diehard Miniatures catalog online. The Bloodbowl snek is more of an homage to the ancient 1980s WFB Chaos Snakeman range, which has been gone for years.

[@ArynCrinn]

@@richmcgee434 I'm fairly certain that the Archon court models are missing as part of the whole "range rotation" thing... so they're not necessarily gone forever. Not unless they release new versions before they see fit to bring them back. On that note, a full plastic Court of the Archon kit would make for an interesting Kill Team.

[@Marthe535]

Snakemen of kuresh? Anybody remember

[@abaddon7558]

About the snake with arms, there is in reality snakes that have little arms/paws, I don't know their name, but it's basically some remainders from their lezard ancestors

[@TheFillem]

I would live Underworlds if it didn't have the deck building aspect but each team just came with its own fixed deck of cards. Ah well

[@MattAfoster]

Jay, thanks for the insightful and enthusiastic video :)

[@oldschoolfrp2326]

Martians look cool in bright colors. The ash wastelands trailer is just a shipping container on a flat wheeled platform - I would much rather scratch-build the whole from $5 worth of toy parts from a garage sale with a few vehicle bits from old sprues and/or some 3D printed greeblies

[@vincesaracino175]

You won't need to buy anything new to play the new blood bowl ... however, the scale of the squares on the new board is slightly bigger, so if you play on the old board, some bases will be tough to keep properly in their square without spilling over into other squares.

[@KensanOni]

I mean, I wasn't looking to buy anything for Kill Team... but, I mean, Kroot! How can I not love the Kroot?

[@brotherhoodofsteel4751]

The good thing about the Imperial Navy breachers is we can probably use them for arbites

[@alexanderpagan3326]

For bloodbowl Pretty much the same rules. A few updates for the perks but for the most part you can take an old team into the old game etc.

[@darkowl9]

Necromunda's a weird one. Because you have very small warbands, GW can't capitalise on "lots of bodies", so they really go all in on charging for books, scenery and the "extra bits" like these bikes.

[@comradedangerfield]

the scale of that mars attacks figure is actually 28mm, modern gw is 32mm heroic at a minimum, with a lot of their models pushing the 35mm envelope

[@LEHR231]

shotguns make a lot of sense for shipboarding actions. also its what they typically have in the novels as well.

[@fredrikhultman557]

Fruit Carstalker King Band... ...oh, and I always find it odd when "dogs" looks like four-legged versions of whatever their masters look like. Like this kroot dog or the predator dog from The Predator. Imagine if our dogs looked like four-legged humans, how creepy wouldn't that be!?!

[@actively_narcissistic]

Today starts a week of celebration, and after that we shall wait one hundred weeks until the celebrations return.

[@gsmith1135]

Your Martians came out great!

[@michaelgirodat1062]

I recently got back into minis and one purchase got me thinking of you and this channel. I'm building my Heretic Astartes legion that I'm calling the Scions of Monarchia and due to lore reasons, I'm making some Sisters Repentia into possessed berserkers, essentially. Anyway, love the channel and you inspire me to get better at painting. Cheers from Canada!

[@ToastErickson]

Blood Bowl 2nd Season is a different game. Most of the mechanics are the same, however they have ALL the teams and Star Players through Snotlings included in the Core Book.Dice are the same, board is the same, and models are the same. Just added some additional stats (passing is separate from agility now), and refined the skills. So if anything just buy the Core book.

[@yorith8302]

You can play Blood Bowl however you want, but the new edition is slightly different and really works out all the kinks in Blood Bowl. I recommend 2nd season edition, the value in the box is absolutely one of the best GW offers.

[@ArynCrinn]

The Ork Kommandos aren't the only team with more than 10 models. The T'au Pathfinders have 3 drones and the Blooded have the Commissar and Ogryn. According to the GW webstore, the Veteran Guard come with 12 bases too... but aside from the standalone med-kit, I don't see why it would have that many. I can see both the breachers and the Kroot having more than 10. The Breachers would have the C.A.T. in addition to the 10 people, and the Kroot would have a hound... or two. The Kasrkin are absolutely coming to Kill Team... especially now that we know that the entire next season is taking place in the same setting. Since we can probably expect another box some time around November (the Chalnath box went up for pre-order 30th October), it does give us a bit if a timeframe of when to expect the rest of the Guard release (which has about 8 other kits beyond the Kasrkin which I'm aware of). The big question for me now, regarding Kill Team, is whether or not it's just two new teams in the next box because it's the start of a new season and the other 3 boxes will be like the last 3, or if the next season of Kill Team will see 2 new team kits in each box just like the next year of quarterly Warcry boxes. If we get 2 entirely new team kits for every Kill Team box, the Kasrkin could be paired against anything.

[@HellsGhetto]

69... nice!

[@PipkinXIV]

Re: The bike's saw/wheel, GW has done a few saws with the newer 40k models and the Empire's tend to be conservative in tooth size (Penitent engines come to mind). The older model's saws, when comparison was available, tended to have larger teeth. I think they're trying to visually differentiate the empire's equipment from Orks and others but, I think it's just a miss. It looks too round.

[@AF-zp4ud]

Not saying it's worth the price point, but the Necromunda Ridge Hauler vehicle with trailer is massive, actually bigger than a Baneblade

[@MeatbagKillaXD]

It scoops up...dirt? It scoops up enemies, obviously 😂 Jay being purposely obtuse again

[@owenkiff8902]

Of course Snake people would have arms, the Snake people of the Desert of Skulls have arms as well

[@richmcgee434]

17:50 GW made a small range of Chaos Snakemen back in the 80s, which the new FW Bloodbowl fig is a (bad) homage to. If you want modern sculpts that are truer to the gonzo Chaos aesthetic of old, see Diehard Miniatures' online catalog. Oldhammer figs by Chaz Elliot, Tom Prow and others. There are more than enough new snakemen over there to make up a skirmish warband. 21:30 Cripes, you need to look at other scales. GW's bloated 30mm+ stuff is way larger than the industry norm of 25-28mm, and even that's ridiculously huge and impractical compared to 15mm figs from companies like Ground Zero Games, Alternative Armies, Splintered Light Minis, etc., etc. And then there's 6mm, which is very popular for vehicular microarmor and massed-battle historical gaming even if GW would like people to forget their old Epic rules sets were once their second best selling product line.

[@settlersam]

I think they have shotgun because there work in small hallways and kicking down doors, so it makes sense that that don’t have long range guns

[@mayofrench5170]

The Breechers look cool, until you visualize their skeletal structure under the void armor and realize how long their necks would have to be to see out the helmets.

[@thetraitorguardsmen.5321]

They are making four kill team set's with space hulk terrain and unique kill team's. Can't wait to build a space hulk. 💯😁

[@ronnihansen2063]

warhammer underpants, love it 😂

[@johnbeaudoin7820]

That Warcry terrain reminds me of a Lion King play set from the 90s.

[@zach1972]

Since they're Navy Breachers, I'm gonna go with some sort of DEVGRU colours, AOR-1 green or tan, maybe an urban grey version? Or maybe a Black & Bronze AOR-1 pattern to match the Space Hulk colours Get creative, DEVGRU are the US Navys best breachers, probably some of the best breachers to exist

[@elias1579]

I’m not completely sold on kill team but Warcry and Necromunda look absolutely fantastic

[@32Loveless50]

the snake person is just a Naga though Quetzalcoatl inspired. and yes Nagas have arms (human torso) head differentiate between human, snake or in between.

[@themightylebeau]

What IF..... the Ksarkin are coming in a later Darkgallows Kill Team box. Your theory still holds weight, the bases still match 🤘

[@IamtheWV17]

Looking forwards to using my OPR jackals in Kill Team 😅

[@MrMaharg79]

That bike really does look like that Rhino dude from the TMNT cartoon would be riding it lmao, but yeah like you daid a grittier paint job will give it more of a 'brute chopper from halo' look that i think would be really sweet

[@bopaintsminis]

Nice tan mat for that Warcry box. I'm surprised Jay didn't mention that. Never have I ever been tempted to buy a Kill Team boxed set, but the voidsmen vs. Kroot... almost. Almost tempted me to buy it. It looks that good to me.

[@stephenbarrett8861]

TAN SAND!

[@amalgamated6448]

“Nice” - Kevin Malone

[@crosslayment2542]

Hey Jay, have you seen the dreadnoughts announced buy GW for Horus Heresy ? I think they would make a fine addition to your collection.

[@rowanthestar4653]

He didn't say how kinda seductively I'm gonna riot

[@lightningwolf788]

I'm with ya on being soooo wrong about the Kill Team box, but I'm totally excited nonetheless! I'm starting to build a Tau army thats just Kroot units and big Battlesuits so I'm really stoked to have a few unique Kroot models to scatter through the army!

[@gribblegreeble]

Really like when the Models and Memories is about models or memories - like the Mars Attacks minis, and not Jay comments on Warhammer Community posts from his iPad, which this weekly segment has tuned into over the last few months.

[@beng6149]

I'm probably going to buy this whole box.

[@callmedavid9696]

your video caused me to guess the kroot correctly, you asked what roars in the 40k universe and my first thought was kroot...

[@cavemanworkshop]

“69, DUDES!!” -William S. Preston, Esq. & Theodore Logan

[@elias1579]

Skirmish for GW is looking amazing. Loving literally everything

[@williamramsay9273]

The miniatures, pitch, dice, templates etc are the same with Blood Bowl (from BB2016 to BB2020/Second Season). But the rules are different, thought you can buy / access the rules for Second Season separately.

[@mobiusZero2]

Jay be " hello darkness I was wrong "

[@bauguilhugo9037]

Kasarkins vs Genestealers will be the next one, to fit with the Impérial Guard codex huhu

[@Zacaris09]

I think you forgot about the snake people who have models in 40k they generally work with the drukhari

[@Snavels]

5:06 I assumed it was for running into people and grinding them up in it

[@euansmith3699]

Warhammer Underpants: Now With Added Chaos Spiky-Bitz.

[@rowanthestar4653]

Congrats on 100k! I'm proud being before 10k gang!

[@Jamesviolaofficial]

Gratz on 100k subs!

[@ml6158]

You should read "Mars Attack Red Sonja". Scifi meets fantasy.

[@battlebrotherstabletop]

I think we’ll get Kasrkin in the next box!

[@ArynCrinn]

100%. Most of us simply didn't foresee the whole next season being set in a single Kill Zone...

[@Silith13]

You can use all your old blood bowl mini's. They're going to be smaller then the new ones but that doesn't matter. The rules are different so you'll need a new rulebook though. The 2020 version.

[@KleineKassiopeia]

You just need the newr rulebook for blodbowl2020. All models, pitches etc are still compatible with the old versions. I play pretty much only bloodbwl and played a couple of tournaments and played on pitches of pretty much all versions, played against teams with models from old versions, weird custom teams etc.

[@andresperedo1275]

The new edition of BB is slightly different. Most important, they split Agility into Agility and Pass (if I remember correctly). The old minis will work, although the scale is smaller

[@miniaturestash]

Great video thanks

[@ebridge100]

I'm going to paint mine up to be the escorts for Salamanders

[@Ainalom]

AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY I just found your channel too. 69, lets goooooo

[@williamamely7038]

You did a great paint job on those Martian models. I do like the Amazon models for Blood Bowl. I might try my hand on that game. Keep up the great work.

[@Slenkamure]

they are selling the parts of a vehicle all separate is a weird choice........oh goodness Jay your naivete about GW being price gougers is adorable

[@ono1381]

The 2 Voidsman in Knights of Macragge were like the only characters in 40k to get a relatively happy ending. They ruled. They deserved it.

[@c02m1c3]

17:50 reminded me the lizardmen exist

[@DaRoach9]

bloodbowl snake people + some pew pew bits = sslyth