New Lagoon 46, The Charter Business, and other Q & A

[@clarencereddick2811]

Another great informative video. Honestly, my prep I’m getting back to sailing and being ready for our trip is being made so much easier by you two. I’m not sure the sailing school will be as informative. Sure on mechanic yes but as a whole package, watching your channel a must! 5 Stars ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️ Thank you 😊

[@andrewbryant324]

We've never given a thumbs up to a video we're in before. Thanks for the meetup and we hope to see you out there soon!

[@TheOKellys]

😀love it! That was so much fun, can’t wait to see you out there soon!

[@bearparts]

Great vid and info as always. I look forward to your "classroom" every week. Thanks for being you.

[@kimberlybudreau359]

Such great information and you guys have such a cool way of presenting it! Haha Dougie🐶⛵️ He’ll be a good boat boy! Thank you for the meet up, it was so fun meeting you guys as well as some new sailing friends⛵️

[@ivanbrgic]

Your videos always makes me go to yachtworld !

[@Sommers234]

Always informative and joyful!

[@jumpleadsx2]

Big fan of your channel! My question is: how much of you is either not filmed or cut out? What happens when you fall out, argue, irritate each other? Silent treatment, water pistols, separate beds?

[@TheOKellys]

Lol. We get along pretty well. If there is something we cut out a lot but is reality....it is hours and hours of watching and enjoying nature. We shoot some of this but rarely put it into videos as we worry that it would be too boring. But in our real lives that you don’t see, that’s probably what you’d be surprised by most....just how much time we just sit there watching, or walking through or swimming through....nature.

[@vxnova1]

Good show as always folks

[@OriginalBrett610]

This was a great style of Q&A! Thanks Doychen for the fantastic question too!! Take care

[@sergest-pierre6160]

Yes Lagoon are very spacious for their length. My last charter was a new Lagoon 40 and they don't sail that badly. I was not sporty but we were going along at 7-8 knots in 15 knots of wind on a broad reach, in flat sea. Don't expect them to go upwind that well but with the self tacking jib and new sails, it was not that bad. I also charter many Lagoon 380 and understand where the slow reputation comes from. The newer design are better. Personally, I would prefer an Outremer over a Lagoon, but that is just me.

[@TheOKellys]

good to hear. and also, too much is made of speed. for the small crew, comfort is just as important, if not more important.

[@GypsyHeart2012]

Boat VS RV. Looking forward. Same issues and lifestyle in a way. I was a RV traveler for 4 solid years. Breaking down on land is much easier than out at sea I would imagine.

[@petertorrey236]

I have to admit to liking the " look" of your Leopard. Clarity looks like a boat...the Lagoon reminds me of 90s Volvos....boxy. Btw..I lived in Lake Oswego....beautiful when it's sunny. Those 4 days are awesome ! ☺ .

[@TheOKellys]

Lol. Yeh we like the look of Clarity....but, one of our favorite cars was a Volvo 850 T5. Nice weather seems to be stretching into fall this year.

[@petertorrey236]

@@TheOKellys I have owned 4 Volvos...including a 5 cylinder 850 GLT. I still love the boxy cars...not the boxy cats...

[@jonas8075]

Funny to say a Volvo is boxy (even if they are) when you have all american car brands to chose from :) O'Kelly's thanks for a nice Q&A!

[@sailingoctopus1]

Form follows function and the Lagoon wins on function. It takes a little to get used to the look, but once you appreciate the functional benefits. In particular, from the 'boxy look', I would highlight the increased feeling of spaciousness in the saloon, the improved visibility from the saloon and through the saloon and cooler saloon, owing to the windows suffering far lower levels of direct sunlight. How many commercial boats have slopey windows like on Clarity, and they spend most of their time at sea? Higher freeboard means not only more space, but far less water over the decks and into the cockpit in poor conditions. After living with a 'boxy' Lagoon for a while you start to pity people on older designs with their low-set, 'go faster', racy-looking slopey saloon windows that serve no useful purpose, such that they start to look, dare I say it, a little bit ugly... which is just form following function.

[@jodymooney255]

That was so fun O’Kelly’s! I think it would be wonderful to hire both of you to charter a boat and sail to Mexico from Seattle! Great video as always, thanks!

[@TheOKellys]

Let’s do it!

[@C_R_O_M________]

Hi Nick, I'm also a private investor and you are absolutely right. We are living in great times for doing that job from anywhere (very different to conditions of just 15-20 years ago and beyond).

[@darleneermis4903]

I just want to say I really like you guys!💕

[@arsenal10141014]

My new fav channel

[@gunnymose]

Thanks for another great video and the inspiration - we are working towards the dream, the plan is in motion.

[@netassassinsecurity]

Hey guys! Great video as normal! The DJI turns off its sensors when you put it in sports mode. This way you aren’t fighting it as it sees your hand as an obstacle and tries to gain altitude to prevent a crash.Flip that switch when you’re ready to catch the drone. Just remember to turn it off again so you get the benefits of the sensors when you fly again.

[@TheOKellys]

You sure? Have tried that. Maybe need to try again! Any other tips?

[@allynonderdonk7577]

They sell a stick that sits on the bottom which is strapped to the body of the Mavic. Basically a handle that hangs down. It really helps to hand land the Mavic.

[@TheOKellys]

Looking into it. That would be a little easier.

[@henrirotthier5710]

This boat sails really well. Friends of us bought one new in France and took off to the Caribbean area. They sail quite fast, but more important, very comfortable and safe.

[@ShivamSharma-rr6tr]

How much it costs bro ?

[@henrirotthier5710]

@@ShivamSharma-rr6tr you should definitely count on 1 million $ if you want it to be equipped well to such a standard that you can travel everywhere you want

[@bizim_eller]

🙂🙂👍 We always enjoy your style and personalities, thank you, be safe🙋

[@ProjectsinLessTime]

Great Vid! Lagoons have a reputation for comfort over handling. Just like owning a car, you can get a Porsche, and they are super fun. On the expressway, not so much. You'll be wishing for a land yacht. Speed vs. comfort. neither is bad, just a choice you make.

[@wesleyw.terpstra1902]

The markers on the time index with questions is awesome!

[@makanimike]

such a fun video, guys! A recommendation on landing the drone: once you grab it, just flip it on its head. The motors will immediately cut off. Much faster, and safer, than using the controller to power down.

[@TheOKellys]

Great tip, thank you so much!!

[@Prototheria]

Hey guys, great video as usual. Regarding finger preservation when launching/retrieving the drone, they make things called catch handles to keep your hands safe...ish. Putting it in sport mode will keep it from being shy around grabby hands.

[@TheOKellys]

crazy, sport mode doesn't seem to help on ours. I think something may be wrong with it.

[@Prototheria]

@@TheOKellys That's odd. Mavic 2, right? That's what I have and when I fly out of my back porch, I need to use sport due to the confined space. Are you taking off in P and switching to S once up, or are you taking off in S? I notice with mine that if I turn it on when it's in S and take off, the obstacle avoidance is disabled, it won't fly faster than what it'll do in P. At that point, if I release the sticks and switch from S to P and back to S, the speed limiter bumps up to what the S is supposed to give you. Maybe give that a try? You may also have to sneak in from the side. Hang on... I'll go try some hand launches right now to see if I can get it to do what yours is doing...

[@Prototheria]

Yep, you have to sneak in from the side a bit. If you try to come up from too far below, it'll see you coming. You have to bring your hand in from the side or back about 4" below the bottom of the drone to keep it from seeing you. This was in both S and P, so I was wrong. My apologies.

[@TheKandyGuy]

yeha yaha yeah... get back on the boat and go sailing .. no fun on land..!! be safe and see you guys on the next one..!!

[@TheOKellys]

tell us about it!

[@jimk9417]

Great and informative video. I really enjoyed it.

[@Drew-eo2oj]

I kept thinking... land it on the Tramp, land it on the Tramp. Thank you.

[@ianprice9005]

Great show

[@heisenbugz]

FYI: When catching DJI drones, flipping them upside down once you have a grip on them is the fastest way to turn off the motors. I think this is generally accepted as the safest way instead of fighting it.

[@TheOKellys]

ours has a mind of its own, but we will try that.

[@Prototheria]

I just tried that and it wanted to dive out of my hand and definitely not shut off. I usually catch with my right and just hold the collective down until the motors stop.

[@heisenbugz]

@@Prototheria that's not good! DJI has a safety feature to cut off the motors when it senses it is upside down. You might want to make sure a) your drone supports it b) there isn't a issue with your drone's telemetry.

[@Prototheria]

@@heisenbugz That was the only time I've ever tried it, and only tried it because you suggested it. No biggie... just passing on my experience. Next one's going to be a Skydio 2, anyway.

[@phoenixreimagined]

This answered a lot of our questions. Thank you!!

[@sparkywires6905]

Hi love the channel. When you catch the drone turn it on it’s side and the propellers will shut off.

[@timmitchell8784]

This was so cool. So sorry I missed it. I’d have come down for that. I missed your postings for this event. #heart broken Loved it Timmy

[@TheOKellys]

Bummer, so sorry we missed you but don't worry we will do it again!

[@PickledShark]

I REALLY liked the question about chartering, and I’d very much like to hear a detailed discussion about it. My girlfriend and I were kicking around the idea of a doing this as a source of income on a cruising Cat. I’d captain the vessel, and lead adventure expeditions, she’d cook fine vegan food, and lead yoga sessions. I love the feeling of working as a team🪢, but I think the sailing KZbin channel market is now pretty saturated. I’d still like to do it for fun and for the purpose of documenting our lives, but as a source of income…. 🤷‍♂️

[@mattsb99]

The Lagoon looks great, except it looks like the life raft couldn’t be launched without lowering the dinghy lift. That’s a scary thought! Another great video.thanks!

[@peterengel7885]

What you need is a Portland Pudgy. The life raft and dingy are one. portlandpudgy.com/

[@manuelstarr3602]

Hi guys, good to hear Sugar's name mentioned occasionally.....cheers

[@TheOKellys]

She’s in our thoughts every day. We still miss her terribly.

[@bryanmyers9977]

That Lagoon.... I see wide hulls, high windage, high sail plan (that boom!) and a sail plan that spreads out fore and aft when reefing down. I see a lot of heavy super structure. I haven't seen the numbers but even if it manages an insane power to weight ratio those wide hulls and high windage will certainly make it slow. The weight up top, high sail plan, and spread out sails will not help it return to a stable position easily. My prediction would be a boat that does not sail well unless the wind is up in the teens, and won't feel comfortable when there is any chop/waves. It's also going to need a lot of line loading to get it moving which isn't good for cruising sailors. To me, the thrill of sailing is part of the experience. I'd choose a boat that has a high power/weight ratio, centered weight, low sail plan etc. I want to sail when the sailing is really good- flat water and under 10kts of breeze (when this boat will motor), and keep it enjoyable and comfortable as the wind/waves kick up by being able to maintain speed while reducing the sail area towards the center of the boat and keeping the line loads manageable.

[@TheOKellys]

We are with you. Love to sail

[@humbertojimenez3475]

Correct about that tender lift. I ran a 82’ m/y w Z-lift (similar lift) and loading the tender in 1’ chop was not fun. It was a 2 person job w one person on the platform and wet. If it’s rough, Better to tow the tender until you are in a calm spot However, those platforms are amazing for scuba, SUP’s etc.

[@lewnance]

SV Delos added a PVC "catch stick" to theirs to help launch and landings.

[@peterm.nangeroni691]

Megan & Nick, get one of these to retrieve your drone, Megan with it out on the tramp, Nick cuts the motors off and Megan with the net easily lands the drone, another fantastic educational video as usual ....... HD150 Hydroweb heavy duty catfish landing net

[@richardmorholt1175]

Bali 5.4 by Catana. Very strong hull and quiet, it loves the heavy seas.

[@DCGULL01]

Hmmm, WE need SV 'Clarity'!!! I was sooooo hoping for a Maine/NH visit this Fall, and, last I checked- you're on the hard in Delaware? Bummer. However, it MUST be nice to be home for a piece, regardless of missing your daily dose of Clarity. And, a beautiful time of year to be home (or, in Maine, FYI!), although, it's beginning to get chilly at night! Looks like all is well though.

[@TheOKellys]

Yes, we want to get up that way at some point. But with all the craziness in the world, we were feeling like a bit of family time was really in order. Yes, all is well.

[@robinacjohnston]

Add some landing legs to the drone. That makes it easy to grab hold of without worrying about the blades and minimal weight gain

[@RiverWoods111]

Delos added a catching stick (well brady added it when he and blue were sailing the boat across the Atlantic). It was very cool and made catching it a lot easier.

[@clarencereddick2811]

My group of guest changed in numbers. I went from 3 couples to 4. I have booked a 2020 Lagoon 46 January 24-31 in the BVI. Lol, I guess I’ll see how she sails then. Unfortunately I won’t have anything to compare it too! Funny. Well there will be one other Cat. But no matter it’s going to be an awesome experience 👍.

[@nez3009]

Don't flip it upside down over water. Test it on land first. The gyro effect could make you drop it in the water even with practice. The delay in the throttle cut can be programmed out. You can also set a switch on the transmitter to be an instant throttle cut on some. Check your instructions or the internet for your exact model.

[@zz0rr]

a crewed charter business in the US needs to comply with the jones act, this means you need a us-built boat or if you have a foreign-built boat you can apply for a marad waiver. in some areas you won't get a marad waiver because the locals will always protest it. something to be aware of before you get ahead of yourself

[@TheOKellys]

good info, thanks

[@cliffordbradford8910]

I would think you also have to be US Coast Guard licensed. So a bit harder than setting up an AirBnb :-D

[@jonathank1307]

Nick I do t know if you know this but maybe you do. When grabbing the drone in mid air, if you turn it upside after you grab it from underneath, it will turn off automatically. Maybe that will help with grabbing the drone from mid air.

[@TheOKellys]

Thanks man, some others said that works. Gonna try. That little beast resists!

[@malcolmmcintyre4584]

Guys love the video plz plz plz come to Australia I’ll buy 10 boxes of your coffee promise 😂

[@petercooke2115]

Thanks for sharing

[@shnboardman1]

Fantastic, cheers

[@SculptyWorks]

Clarity is prettier! Looks more like a home! ❤

[@jonasnystrom8958]

Drone Tip: Attatch a lightweight stick under the drone you can grab a hold of

[@TheOKellys]

velcro?

[@jonasnystrom8958]

@@TheOKellys Maybe... aslong as it can hold the weight of the drone while you catch it. I saw this on another sailing channel, but I got the impresson that the stick was more permanently attached. But if you can do it and have the stick removable, it would be alot nicer and useful I suppose.

[@photoluminism]

We've been watching you guys for a couple of months and absolutely love the detail you go into. We are currently looking for a Lagoon 43 PC as a live-aboard as an option to Plan A (living in Marsh Harbour which we did for 3 months until 5 days after Dorian blew through and destroyed everything) I'm curious about a couple of work related things I don't think you've delved into yet. I'm a voice over artist as well and I also write music, make small movies and I'm photographer. I'm very curious to know what equipment you use, especially for VO (I have ProTools as I used to be a music editor in film), what mic works best and whether you have any issues with water slap, A/C noise when recording long books etc. Also what video editing software are you running? Thank you for your very entertaining and informative videos and one day we shall hope to bump into you out on the water :) Good luck getting through this difficult time.

[@TheOKellys]

Hey thanks! I used a Neumann TLM 103 with phantom power from the Zoom H4 for most things, but left that in Portland recently. Just too sensitive. Now just the Rode NT2A. I will see how that works because yes, wave/wind noise can be brutal. I’ve got one of those foam noise shields that works somewhat well.if this proves to be too much sensitivity, I’ll get get an SM7B and just get comfortable with a heady sound. Otherwise I use Logic for music and VO and Final Cut for videos. Hope you get that boat and we share an anchorage!

[@photoluminism]

@@TheOKellys Thanks so much for all this! I use an NT2A now - budget friendly but still great quality with switchable options - and used the SM7 when I first started out. Actually enjoyed the tonal quality! Love your cupboard 'booth.' Very clever. Thanks again!

[@giovannifiorentino8947]

Megan, can you invent a pad that the drone recognize for it to land on?

[@kaylaandjimbryant8258]

How hard would it be to grow tomatoes, peppers and kitchen herbs on a cat (45' or longer)? Not talking a major garden, but a few pots of peppers (Habenero, cayenne, and jalapeno), maybe a heirloom tomato plant or two, and chives, basil, and a few others. Would the salt spray be a major issue?

[@xyzaero]

If you wanna know the difference between RV and boat life, ask the Wynns from"Gone with the Wynns".

[@TheOKellys]

Lol, yes of course. We’ve had three RVs and four boats, so we will have a thing or two to say.

[@VictoriaWargaming]

Starlink will give us internet good enough for telecommuting.

[@RiverWoods111]

Read above my answer to Michy Nature about Starlink because RV'rs and Sailors won't be able to use it at first because Elon Musk didn't design the satellites the way he said he would initially. They are too rigid and won't move around to find the satellite while the boat or RV moves. They will need to be stationary. That is until he and his team can figure out how to make them move automatically to connect on a moving vehicle.

[@VictoriaWargaming]

@@RiverWoods111 thats disappointing.

[@VictoriaWargaming]

@@RiverWoods111 I checked further into this and the dish uses the phased array to phase shift (ie steer) the signal, making it far more suitable for a boat in motion (the array can steer the signal far faster than mechanically). The remaining issue is the proximity to ground stations - which is current required for each satellite to communicate with the internet so deep offshore would have a blind spot. Phase 2 of starlink will have the laser communication between satellites to allow relay between them and will eliminate these blind spots.

[@Jason-33W]

Looking forward to what starlink brings too. I think the issues with it being a stationary transceiver will not be a hard obstacle to overcome too. I think in the near future we'll have gigabit speeds on RVs and boats.

[@HandyMan657]

That was a lot of fun. Hey, did you ever return that screwdriver? Thanks for another great episode, always learning on this channel. Take care

[@TheOKellys]

lol! Thanks for the note!

[@tomasboragina]

cada dia mas cerca de mudarme a un barco.gracias por los consejos.

[@endelrandoja9815]

Is it possible for a single person to start a life living on a sailboat? Can a single person hope to start alone and gain a crew of like minded people? Or become a member of a crew? And how much does ones age affect that possibility? I have always loved being in and on the water. Started swim lessons at age 4. Taught canoeing for 6 summers. Was on the swim team in high school and first year of college (transferred to a Nebraska Wesleyan which didn't have a swim team). Was NAUI certified in high school. Lifeguard/pool manager for 7 summers. Would sail a sunfish on the small lakes (or large ponds) whenever possible. Spring break snorkeling school trip to the Yucatan. Spent the winter of 83'-84' (4 months) riding my motorcycle 8,000 miles along the coasts of Mexico, camping on beaches, and snorkeling and spearfishing nearly everyday. Still swim laps about 1-2 hours several times a week (except now during COVID). Last visit to my relatives in Estonia a couple years ago, we made a road trip to Croatia and the Adriatic; and whenever we were near the water, I was in it, swimming around and exploring islands. I don't understand how it could have happened, but none of my family or friends (in Nebraska or Estonia) share my love of the water, or dream of sailing. Those that even consider going to the beach, will only get in the water far and long enough to cool down. And the idea of learning to sail a cruising sailboat isn't even a fleeting thought for any of them. Sorry for the long post, but I can't help but feel that I am not the only person in this seemingly impossible life situation. So any suggestions for those of us that are? P.S. Love your youtube channel, and being able to live vicariously through your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@TheOKellys]

Oh of course. There are singlehanders out there all over the place. It is like anything...a lot to learn and know, so get into it one step at a time, find others to learn from, etc. Get on out there!

[@bizim_eller]

Endel randoja🙂 seems like you've had a wonderful relationship with water all you life👍 Wife and I bought an old sailboat( for $11k) in 2008 and hit the ocean ( never ever sailed before, not even set foot on a sailboat before) in ft. Pierce fl and set the course for bermuda. I can't say we learned whole bunch right away, we made many mistakes, got seasick, got scared, got hungry( whole different subject 🙂 ) And made it to Turkey in 4 months, it was an adventure, very special! I have been planning to build a 40 ish foot catamaran and do it all over again( my own design) but this time we would like to really take it easy and enjoy it🙂 Basically, what I'm trying to say is just let the lines go, and start somewhere, we're getting older by the day, don't waste anymore time if you can.👍 Edit: isn't it you guys who brought down the iron curtain? You will find a way🙂

[@endelrandoja9815]

@@bizim_eller :D Don't know if we brought down the iron curtain; but did have a singing revolution to regain independence. No shots, just songs: very proud of that. Thank you for your encouraging words. I will have to use this pandemic down time to start working on a plan. Best of luck, and have fun, working on your catamaran. And should fortune shine on me and my plans, I would very much enjoy crossing paths and getting to meet you, your wife and your new catamaran. FWaFS

[@bizim_eller]

@@endelrandoja9815 thanks very much for good wishes👍 I love meeting and learning from people, hopefully we meet somewhere 🙂

[@williamediger3193]

I sailed a 50' Lagoon from Ft. Lauderdale and while it is a very comfortable boat for the most part, it does get a bit of slap and in a good wind, the leeway is abominable. The engines were powerful and made handling in close quarters a breeze. All in all a nice boat but with the significant leeway, passagemaking is more difficult.

[@TheOKellys]

Thanks for the real world feedback. We admittedly have 0 Lagoon miles sailed.

[@orion_13]

Well 9 months later and the Lagoon 460 is showing signs of bulkhead issues... What are your feelings about the issues being brought up and how Lagoon is handling the whole situation?

[@TheOKellys]

I (Nick) am not personally aware of Lagoon 46 bulkhead issues...there may be, but I am not aware of them. I am aware of the Lagoon 450 design/build issues, so I am going to answer this as though we are talking about the 450 and not the 46. Ok? I have personally inspected a Lagoon 450 for a consulting client. I am not a surveyor or engineer, but I can say definitively that the bulkhead issue on that boat is real. The particular boat I inspected had the compression deformation in the single (wtf?) ply like the boats I've seen in the videos elsewhere, but it did NOT have bulkhead tabbing issues, did NOT have bridgedeck compression deformation, did NOT have deck to bulkhead tabbing delamination .......YET. The particular boat I looked at was the original owner, no groundings, an Atlantic crossing, and that's it....nothing unusual. The Parlay boat.....mad props to those guys....just madmen and deserving every bit of respect.....that boat needs to be taken out of the equation. There is no way a hurricane wrecked boat can be used as a design longevity testcase. But there are lots of other Lagoon 450s with some SIMILAR problems. Not identical, but similar. There are really just two conclusions you can come to here: either this particular design was not engineered properly or the particular boats in question have been subjected to unusual stresses from hurricanes, groundings, etc. I would say just given the number of boats affected, that this is an engineering issue. This is no small thing to correct. This is going to be a 35-50K fix....per boat..... and there are a lot of Lagoon 450s out there. I am not at all surprised that Lagoon is taking their time...this is going to be very costly for them either monetarily or to their reputation or both. At this point, it looks like both... But I need to point out that you are commenting on a video about a Lagoon 46, not a Lagoon 450, and it would be incorrect to now assume that ALL Lagoons have bulkhead issues or general quality problems. (That's not an endorsement of the Lagoon 46 either, lol.) It's just to say that there have been design and QC problems with many many production cats. The Leopard 46 for example had under-engineered davits in the first model year. They fixed that. Problem solved. The Leopard 48's had some flexion problems with the front door in their first year of production....and those are now some of the hardest cats to find on the market....they are incredibly popular. The FP boats VERY commonly have an "Evolution" model that comes after the original....solving design and sometimes structural deficiencies, moving bulkheads, reinforcing tabbing, etc. All this is to say that this is not a Lagoon issue necessarily. This is a Lagoon 450 issue. The modern Lagoon cats are an extremely voluminous design. They are enormous because owners who buy them put comfort near the top of the priority list...that's what they want above all else. AND THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL WRONG WITH THAT!!!! But to make a catamaran voluminous, without adding a disastrous amount of weight, you need to use less glass, and that inevitably means a more flexible boat.... I would think that almost no modern Lagoon owner would consider their boat quiet and creek free after a few seasons bouncing around in the ocean. I could be wrong....that's a very strong statement and it is speculative on my part....but I think I am probably right. So the question that Lagoon as a company wants to answer is: is this a dangerous design flaw? Or is this a flexible boat (because of the design constraints they have to work within) that simply doesn't wear that well over time? Because there is a BIG BIG BIG difference between a boat that flexes too much and doors don't close right and one that is in danger of cracking up. And they don't want to pay 50K per boat so that closet doors will close properly and the boat won't creak as much after a few years. But I think that Lagoon is asking the wrong question. They should be asking: what is the perception of our boats and our brand, and how are we going to give people the confidence to invest 500k or well over 1m on one of our boats? And this is where Lagoon and frankly all of these marine brands are going to have to understand the new landscape we live in. It's one where the customer's megaphone is just as big as theirs is. And that could lead to some new design ideas going forward as the cat really needs to be able to stand up to some abuse and not fall apart. After all, the name of the brand stays on the boat no matter what an owner does with it. I would not be surprised at all for newer boats to integrate more carbon fiber for stiffness, perhaps move toward tempered, shatterproof glass over the lexan....just make the boats tougher in general. I think that will be a good thing.

[@orion_13]

@@TheOKellys , yes you are correct, I did inadvertently post 460 instead of 450. I had just re-watch the 46 video and typed in the wrong number. I, like you, think this might be leading to a larger issue since other boats are on the hard beside Parley getting nearly the same repairs to the forward bulkhead. The last count I heard on an unofficial facebook group was 20 plus out of the ones that checked theirs. If was in their shoes I would have conflicts about removing trim to look too. I think I would measure the distance across the bottom of the hull before I risked the possibility tearing up interior trim. Love you guys and all the info you share.

[@hhiser6206]

To easy, hang some fishing net and fly the drone into it.🤔😲😉

[@williamcritchley4722]

Starlink!!

[@Aaron-lc5us]

Do You think that space,x starlink fill change wifi at sea

[@TheOKellys]

I hope so. We are signed up for the beta!

[@fisherh9111]

You should upgrade. You've earnt it.

[@pioneer_1148]

I would just point out that with starlink coming online the challenges you talk about with working from a boat are likely going to be massively diminished in the future. While it's at $110 per month it's a fair bit more expensive than you average internet connection (+ a few hundred for the starter kit) it's fast and you can get a connection from everywhere (except very near the poles) P.S. Why didn't the starfish enterprise crew just convert one or two of the spare cabins into offices link you guys did with Megan's sewing studio and Nick's recording studio?

[@kickdrumeddie]

I love your channel and as a sailboat owner and soon to be catamaran owner I’m excited about starting my adventure. As a person of color I’m wondering how I would be accepted in the sailing community. Do you have any advice for me? Thanks

[@TheOKellys]

Once you leave the US, you’ll see people with all different skin tone are out sailing around. Sailing on the ocean is tough going sometimes, and I think there is some automatic respect among sailors in distant places....I mean to say I do think you are seen for your skills ahead of your hair style or whatever. We see the sailing community as being endlessly helpful and supportive. But is there racism built in?....it’s hard for us to know sure. I will tell you that the world needs examples in every corner, and so if you are out there with, I hope you document and share so that we all can learn and see. That’s how the world changes...pioneers and leaders. Hope we get to share an anchorage.

[@jennmaclean-angus7450]

As an aspiring sailor, and one to whom the work of being actively anti-racist matters a great deal, I often wonder about how much racism is glossed over or swept away in the sailing community, especially in the US, and if it will bust out in some way, along the lines of what Will Smith said about it not getting worse, just getting filmed. I hope your adventure gives you all the good and very little to nothing of anything else. Kika on Sailing Uma has talked about the racism she’s experienced, she was very open about it on their instagram a few months ago. Maybe she would be willing to discuss with you. All the best to you, Ed. :)

[@vaughanjones6839]

You guys are terrific. But I was shocked you guys own 4 other boats. Damn. Then you indicate 3 tv's. But it's cool, ain't hat in. It's ok if you re trust fund babies. Wish the hell I could pull the trigger on a Discovery 55. Keep going. You make my day.

[@TheOKellys]

Yeh you need to poke around the channel a bit. We aren’t trust fund babies.

[@justincruz8352]

They owned 4 other boats not currently own 4 boats. Also calling someone a trust fund baby who worked really hard to make their dream work is pretty disrespectful.

[@vaughanjones6839]

I truly apologize, I was having fun. You guys are so good and fun, wouldn't care if you had 10 boats. Drive on. You re great and I suggest to young couples use you as a model for great rapport and love. No more jokes from me.

[@TheOKellys]

No offense taken, really. We laugh actually....we aren’t trust fund babies, and by how many depreciating assets we’ve bought over the years....we are actually pretty irresponsible financially....so we understand why people might think it was all a gift. No, we are just like a moth to flame with this lifestyle. Go get that Discovery and come out and chuckle with us somewhere warm! Lol

[@parkerd2154]

When we’re you guys staying on that lagoon? I was moored in eagle harbor this September and saw that boat. Not many cats up here so it really stands out!

[@TheOKellys]

must have been early September? Beautiful up there!

[@tonyfromaus7855]

I’m not out there, and have never done it, so I may be wrong... but wouldn’t drone catching be less dangerous and easier if you flew in ABOVE head height? So the catcher is on the deck (not leaning over water), can’t be hit in the arms or body, and is reaching up rather than twisting under. I know there are lines and rigging etc but there is a forward quadrant you could slightly come in over the deck a couple of feet isn’t there?

[@TheOKellys]

Yes, you are right, and normally we do. But we didn't have any other footage of a drone catch...

[@tonyfromaus7855]

Haha... I feel foolish now. Here was me thinking I could make a suggestion to the pros. :) Nah, that’s great, glad you have a good method. Love your videos and really appreciate your generous knowledge sharing. Fair winds to you pair.

[@jameshuebner8194]

Hi guys!

[@windmedic]

Starlink should handle the internet problem...hopefully soon.

[@TheOKellys]

We are signed up for beta already. Excited for it!

[@Prototheria]

I'm with you guys on the hope and excitement. One thing that has been brought up elsewhere is that just the rocking of the boat at anchor/at the dock is enough to break the connection to geosynchronous satellites. I know that Starlink will be constantly handing the connection off to the next closest satellite, so hopefully that isn't an issue.

[@windmedic]

The O'Kelly's today was a scrub so...but I have faith...

[@lowellmccormick6991]

I read yesterday that first responders have been using the beta version of Starlink during the current fires out West. It works and they love it. I hope all those satellites don't ruin my astrophotography hobby.

[@windmedic]

Prototheria gimbal mount... problem solved

[@T-Sav]

Just use a big fishing net to catch the drone - the props will be fine

[@TheOKellys]

lol

[@stephancote4745]

Starlink will give high speed internet in the middle of the oceans Ps actually is right now but only in beta for now and for now only land receivers made

[@monicapuccetti3310]

what is your friends chartering business and do they have a website you could link to?

[@monicapuccetti3310]

Oh I should have specified - the couple at the end with the wine and dinner cruises type day charter.

[@TheOKellys]

www.bluewhalesail.com/ are our friends who charter. We stayed on the Lagoon 46 operated by saltsail.com

[@TDubya811]

Hope they bulk heads don't fall apart like the Lagoon 450 as documented by Parlay.

[@fred6319]

how is the eye? good thing that guy you kept browning screwdrivers from didn't stick one in your eye :)

[@TheOKellys]

Eye is almost all better. Thank you. Buying my own screwdrivers....lol

[@exploranator]

The drone: Why not just land it on that big helipad between the hulls up front? It would not even need to be all that graceful. Just plop'er down.

[@joeblow1942]

I guess as a harbor cruiser or sailing downwind in the Caribbean that new Lagoon would be great but it sure is ugly and the windage would be crazy.

[@TheOKellys]

And I think that is what it is made for. Nothing wrong with a purpose-build boat!

[@michynature]

The satellite train is coming, that should help.

[@RiverWoods111]

Yes the satellite that is coming down the pike is super cool, but sailors will have to wait a little longer than everyone else, because of how it will work. The coverage won't be over the oceans for sometime. Also they went with a more rigid design of satellite than they said they were going to do. so the first satellites won't be able to move with the boat to keep connections. It will be a few years down the road longer than everyone else before boats and RV's will be able to use the new technology, Elon Musk definitely has the goal of connecting up the RV'rs and the Sailors through the new system. It is exciting just going to be a bit slower!

[@pleclerc1]

Did I hear that right, someone now wants an owmers version? 🤣😅😁

[@TheOKellys]

No, I'm happy with my sewing studio and laundry room and Clarity in general. But I did enjoy that big bathroom, not gonna lie!

[@pleclerc1]

@@TheOKellys I agree with you guys, the cost does not justify it. And I want a work shop, we need more storage and refrigeration, so a charter version would work well for us at this point. We are really considering the 44 Leopard from the moorings, with the 46's, its at to top of our list.

[@jodymooney255]

Patrick Leclerc check out the Seawind.

[@pleclerc1]

@@jodymooney255 We've looked at them but we are not a fan of the dual helms and having to look through the interior windows . The interior of the brand new ones is amazing though, well laid out out but we cannot afford them at this point. Ruby Rose II that they are working on will probably be a great designed, looking forward to seeing in 2021.

[@lowellmccormick6991]

@@TheOKellys Hang a toilet seat off the back of the Clarity and the world becomes your bathroom. It would be huge. ;^)

[@caterinajones1806]

Is there anywhere you could sail where sharks would worry you?

[@TheOKellys]

Sharks all over. They don’t worry us.

[@michynature]

Namibia, lots of seals, but no sharks lol

[@Chris-zo5ze]

I'd really love to take a "charter" with you guys. Is this something you'd entertain the idea of? If so, do you discuss it on KZbin or should we connect via email?

[@TheOKellys]

that would require we know where we are going to be in some time in the future! LOL. Yes, if we could figure that out, we would do that. Could be fun!

[@skigod9]

We were going to do this with sailing doodles in the BVI but covid canceled that. As of now it rescheduled for 2021

[@TheOKellys]

I hope it works out. We crossed paths with that guy in the Chesapeake in spring. Nice guy!

[@marcilloferente8393]

xD omg, the drone story was very boomer-ish but alright, cant blame ppl for being careful.

[@jimmiller5600]

"Angular furniture features" --- I don't get it. How hard is it for the manufacturers to round the edges? Must be near impossible since they all seem the same. Sigh.

[@TheOKellys]

Lol

[@paulvov6029]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@AbuDaB]

All VERY cool but just one question regarding the drone: why can't you land it on the boat directly? You have a HUGE space out there, so no need wifey to risk her fingers 🤣 I do such manovers on a quite smaller boat... Get some little more practice friends. Happy wife happy life😉

[@TheOKellys]

there are typically sheets in the way. Threading the needle when the boat isn't moving is no problem, but the air is getting deflected and bent by the sails when you get close. Not as easy as my (Nick) incredible skills make it look. LOL. I will get better and start landing it on the tramp more often for sure....still learning.

[@AbuDaB]

@@TheOKellys Love your videos, keep up the great work!

[@pmnfernando]

best thing to do on a Lagoon: remove the mast. second best thing: up those diesels just a bit.

[@pmnfernando]

@@jamierodg1 third best thing: increase tankage

[@TheOKellys]

lol

[@DennisWintjes2]

Thanks. Like #665

[@rnca27]

some solution I've seen for the drone landing is a big butterfly net and the other is a special landing grab pole (see channel SV Delos )

[@cougartpt793]

Hi guys in Vietnam doing character work on seawind 1600 it sucks Don't it the guests are a pain in the ass

[@van10nistelrooy]

Why not just bring the drone in & land it on the trampoline? would be a safer bet all around wouldnt it?

[@TheOKellys]

you would think so. I think the problem is the changing air currents around the sails. When I fly the drone in close, it gets harder to control... But it did work on the Seawind, so maybe that is the future!

[@dwtrksvc]

Wait, what? Did I miss something with Sugar? She didn't go to college did she? 😟😟

[@TheOKellys]

She did. In January. :(

[@dwtrksvc]

@@TheOKellys I just started following your channel and I thought she was a wonderful travel companion. I am sorry she is gone but you have a life time of wonderful memories and a number of videos that will let her live on forever. Thank you for sharing her with us for a brief time.

[@TheOKellys]

Glad to have ya with us! Yes, we miss her every day, but so many great memories.

[@klimon53]

Hilarious seeing them trying to catch their drone by? Suggestion, land the drone on in the cockpit or on the trampoline. Can’t believe you have your wife leaning over the side trying to catch the DJI drone with winter clothes. As an avid DJI user I can assure that those blades cannot cut your fingers off. They will fold the minute they hit an object. Take advantage of the built in intelligence and set the drone to use the controller as home point and you can land anywhere even if the boat is moving. It will find whoever is holding the controller so standing in any open space it can auto-land. I am actually surprised at your utter fear of one of safest drones on the market. I would highly recommend flying it into the cockpit and simply landing on the deck. Heck fly the dam thing into cabin if you feel safer but never try to catch it like you are doing over the side. On mistake and into the water. Much better to crash it on the deck. They are designed to take a beating but never survive water...

[@MIDTOWNE1]

You guys are aware that their is a waterproof drone on the market, No?

[@TheOKellys]

No. What does it cost and how well does it shoot?

[@MIDTOWNE1]

It's called SwellPro Splash Drone 3. $1,199

[@TheOKellys]

Interesting. That’s less than we paid for new drone!

[@rustie4242]

Nice motor-sailor, great for island hopping and partying, not much good for long distance cruising.

[@Chris-zo5ze]

Have you personally sailed one, Rustie?

[@williamcritchley4722]

Starling is coming with low Latency

[@mikesamson8888]

get p4 pro

[@trentspencer7991]

In my opinion the Lagoon 46 in every aspect, from practicality to cosmetics is nowhere near as well designed as the Leopard 45.