Glad to hear you say “don’t retire your M10Mono if you are satisfied”. It is unfortunate that Leica previously made mechanical cameras that lasted 20+ years but is now satisfied declaring their digital cameras “less than the best” after just 3 years.
@jasongold6751 Жыл бұрын
Measuring in months. No good after service, battery at costs that buy a good digtal kit! Glad I can't buy this!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Salvatore, really ... the M10 Mono but also former Leica Mono cameras going back many years are still very good cameras ... The photographer makes the image, not the camera :)
@mattwaller8959 Жыл бұрын
Lovely speech in the middle about why to shoot in black and white.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt, wanted to provide my thoughts on B&W :)
@rolandrickphotography7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed comparison. Just a hint from an old guy coming from the film era, if you screw a yellow filter to the lens, you get more sky contrast (blue tones subtle darkened) straight out of camera and also the skin of your model subtle smoothed. The effect is stronger with an orange filter and maxed with a red filter. Attention, models having blue eyes like Stefanie (or Stephanie) will get a „demonic“ (as I call it) look, because the iris turns towards black. I don’t have a M11M yet, but according to the underexposed 3 sec image, you probably can bring back the blue eyes brightness in post by placing two elliptical filters on the eyes pushing shadows and/or exposure slider to the right as well as clarity to bring back details. For landscape and cityscape, the red filter it is, most buildings have yellow/orange/red tones, they become really bright vs. an almost black blue sky, you can do night shot alike images during bright daylight. Doesn’t of course work on overcast days 😅. Greetings to Zürich and also the Leica Store guys from Principality of Liechtenstein 🇱🇮.
@B5J2P Жыл бұрын
Please consider doing an M11 and M11M image comparison both in black & white. I'm interested to see how you feel the M11 holds up to the M11M after its files are converted to B&W. Thank You.
@longrider9551 Жыл бұрын
There is very little difference from what I see, I have the Q2 mono and did a comparison to my A7C with a good contrasty zeiss loxia lens shooting in B&W, and the difference is negligible
@314LA11 ай бұрын
The pictures are very close. On m9 and m9m there were differences about 10 years ago, now there are almost none. And it is necessary to compare with the film too. Here's where it gets interesting that so far, film is better at capturing the light transition than a $10,000 camera.
@lowIQstuff5 ай бұрын
the irony here is that the M11 shoots better black and white images than the M11M, because the color sensor does a better job capturing contrast and highlight details.
@Wolfloid2 ай бұрын
The difference is large at 6400 and above, and increases as you go higher. Below that the difference is there, but it is minimal.
@contemporaryartist6542 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are absolutely wonderful. I watch every one. I love my M10 monochrom with 50mm apo but it’s good to see Leica pushing. I need another few years with this combination as it still humbles me. Best wishes from Australia.
@contemporaryartist6542 Жыл бұрын
Ps I love the analytical but how about a poetic comparison between M10M & M11M? I understand the subjectivity, but just do it my friend. Thank you
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words.
@FabulousPepper Жыл бұрын
Hi. M10M + 50mm APO... That must be an amazing combo... We have also publish a quick comparison between the new M11 Monochrom and its predecessor, the M10M. It's here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5y7ZKOrlLF5gJY Hope you find it of interest...
@matthewkutz3649 Жыл бұрын
If ever I think my M10M needs more resolution, I compare it to 35mm film. That would be a cool video. Highest resolution b+w film vs M11M. M3 v M11M.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew and great idea I was playing with for a while but had not yet the time to execute :) On some B&W film the scan resolution can really pushed to far limits and then comparing between film, M10M and M11M is a pretty cool project!
@Biosynchro Жыл бұрын
Photo editors are going to love photographers who use cameras like this. They can crop away 75% of the pixels and still get a 15Mpx file. Insane. Nice photos of Stephanie. I think you can definitely place the subject in the middle of the frame - this has been recognised for a long time. Stanley Kubrick loved doing this! Photo editors (yes, those pesky photo editors again) might prefer it, as they can recompose the shot as required. One little trick I discovered for portraiture - reduce microcontrast in the RAW converter. Or use an old lens. I have a quick question: because monochrom files do not require debayering, do they load faster while viewing them in a RAW converter? I imagine that a 60Mpx RAW image will be as CPU intensive as a 30Mpx Bayer image.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Many thanks Karim, appreciate your positive feedback. My Mac computer is so fast, I do not feel that Monochrom images load faster, but on slower machines they might do.
@ernestolopez-corona8969 Жыл бұрын
I own the Q2m and I love it! The images are so crisp and filled with detail even at night. This m11m is tempting!! Obviously the glass in front is important as well.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Fully agree, Ernesto. Sharp lenses make a real difference if a sensor can resolve so many details. If I see this correctly in Leica's commercials on the new M11 Mono, the new just released Summilux 50mm with improved near distance is likely a good candidate for the M11 Mono besides the lenses I already showed in the video.
@r423sdex Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer can you buy a lens that's not sharp ? Remember if you make a print, all lenses will be sharp enough. All digital cameras offer great image quality and sharpness, even ones costing £300. Don't believe the hype! A 60 megapixels sensors will demand great techniques to get the benefits of it, you will need a top quality computer and plenty of storage.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@r423sdex Well ... depends on what "sharp" means for you. Sharpness, acutance and resolution - I guess for most people (not you and me) it is not really clear what "sharp" actually means. I made a video about the topic some time back. Your comment is in any case spot-on: A 60MP sensor is demanding, the photographer needs to work diligently, in particular since the M11 and M11 Mono do not have any image stabilisation incorporated. And post-processing needs quite some resources in terms of hardware. If you look around on my channel you will find that I also work with 150MP images (Phase One) or 100MP images (Hasselblad and Fuji). Luckily, the MacBook Pro these days, if well configured, can handle these high resolutions very well in post-processing in Capture One, Lightroom CC or Photoshop.
@marcusoutdoors4999 Жыл бұрын
Great review. I am most excited to see your review of the new 50mm Summilux vs the current model, particularly the bokeh shapes when stopped down. Hopefully you don’t mind me making a request, but I feel this could be the ultimate 50.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Marcus, Leica Zurich will get the new Summilux 50 to me as soon as it is available and then I will post a review. The new version has improvements on near distance and number of aperture blades, see here www.dpreview.com/news/7069545277/leica-releases-summilux-m-50mm-f1-4-asph And I expect this to be a dream lens with very soft bokeh and great sharpness at widest open aperture.
@echobenav8 Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully informative video as always, appreciate your perspective on b&w advantages, thank you!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind comment.
@PatricioReySaavedra Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Complete info and comparison! best wishes from Argentina.
@stephenlpitts Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the brief comparison of the M11M to the M10M. To my eyes, the image of the lefthand bridge (M10M) has a lot more "life" and visual interest than the righthand one (M11M). Is this possibly due to the greater exposure on the left one? Even the railing on the bridge in your last magnification looks much more interesting on the left? Perhaps you coule explore the comparison some more? Thanks!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen, I will look into that next weeks. I have now the final firmware for the M11 Mono, at the time of this video everything was pre-production.
@rakeshravindran3147 Жыл бұрын
You need to do a comparison on higher ISO on a scene that has some lack of light. That is where you will see the significant difference between M11 and M11M. At ISO 125 with 1/4000 of shutter tells me that you have plenty of light in the scene. I would like to see some 800, 1600, … 20k ISO on a scene that genuinely require those ISOs for hand holding a 35/50mm.
@D.Trider Жыл бұрын
Awesome camera- had the typ246, now have the m10m and m10p. I Wasn’t fan of the m11 (black) and returned it. Love my m10m and m10p… not seeing a huge difference between m10m and m11m. Also, shoot sl2 when I need ultra high resolution, m10p when traveling.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment, Bubba. As shown in the video, if you love the M10 design, the M10 Mono is an excellent camera, comes very close to the new M11 Mono and you do not need to upgrade to the M11 Mono if you are happy with your M10 Mono.
@D.Trider Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer the m11 has wonderful specifications. But I don’t know too many people that own Leica cameras only for specifications. Most people I speak with own Leica cameras not only for their image quality, but for their design heritage, build quality, color science and native glass. When the build quality, color science and design changed, they comprised a bit of of their heritage and lost a bit of their magic.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@D.Trider That's true and is the reason why some Leica fans did never buy into the new M11 design ...
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Which is a pity since the new design, once you are used to it, is really functional and well done!
@sergebenassutti297511 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting the time in these video. BUT, please do a video where you can convince me to switch from my M10r to M11mono. In my opinion its hard to see the real benefits. DR ,iso performance ,resolution, aliasing….please do more comparison shots of M11,M10r and M11mono. That would be awesome. Also some random shots like the one you brought up the shadows. And plase compare higher iso ranges
@anikghosh7923 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video and very informative. I recently bought the m11 2 weeks back. But I only do black and white (fyi I'm not a pro). I still have the option of returning but then I do away with the option of color (even its 0.1% of the time). Would you recommend returning the m11 and going for the m11 M instead? Or are the differences not noticeable between the m11 and m11 M in post processing?
@mrcondorazo Жыл бұрын
Hello.. definitely yes.. buy the Leica M11 Mono.. because from now on... when you take photos with your camera, you will be dissatisfied with your photos, knowing that there is a new camera that will take better photos,,, and That anxiety will not let you live in peace
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
M11M native black & white is a bit superior to M11 and then converting into black & white. But if you once in a while also want to shoot in color, then the M11 is just great! I would not return the M11 but keep it. And conversion software into black & white is really good today, in prints you will hardly see the difference. Enjoy your camera :)
@raveemahadevan Жыл бұрын
Beauty... the camera.. the presentation...
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@audioman99 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your introduction, what an incredible camera!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Many thanks, appreciate the positive feedback.
@kyolookinfo1925 Жыл бұрын
Hi, please try some day if its possible the high iso to check from where would be useful, then if there is some improvement with the rolling shutter. Very nice video thanks
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks and of course I will look into high ISO next weeks, will look deeper into dynamic range and can also quickly look into rolling shutter effects.
@wolfrainerschmalfuss3515 Жыл бұрын
The middle located black screw in upper front of the new camera body, instead of the typical Leica logo, is making my "esthetic design day"! Every "plumber" knows it, that the screw slot of a screw should to be "vertical or horizontical"! I would suggest horizontical! 😉
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Ha! :) Well spotted on the screw ;)
@wilfredshum3703 Жыл бұрын
Already having the M8.2, Q2M, and M10M for my B&W photography, I think I will not consider this unless there is a Reporter or a Stealth edition available. My two favorite lenses for M10M are the 28 mm Summicron ASPH and the 50 mm Summilux ASPH. Thanks for the timely video.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wilfried. As said in the video, the M10 Mono is excellent and not ready for retirement :) For a 50mm focal length, likely worthwhile to consider the new Summilux 50 which Leica just announced; see here: www.dpreview.com/news/7069545277/leica-releases-summilux-m-50mm-f1-4-asph
@taneltinnuri8985 Жыл бұрын
How do you like M8.2 when you have M10M and Q2M?
@donjagoe9 ай бұрын
That was everything a review should be and not an iota more. Perfect. Thx!
@ronangsrАй бұрын
hey, nice comparison, how did you edit the photos, did you use a preset? or are these the sooc flat raws ? any edit ?
@pictureboston Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. You are something special. Thank you for what you do.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Many thanks, your kind comment makes my day :)
@devilsavacado84 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video thank you. Would be very interested to see a side-by-side of the m11 (black and white profile conversion) and the M11 monochrom, as I convert to b&w 90% of the time but sometimes enjoy the choice. How much quality do we actually lose if we prefer to hedge our bets with a colour sensor? Thanks!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks! There is a difference but it is not super elevated, so if you only occasionally shoot monochrom you can live with the M11 and conversion later on, it will be ok.
@longrider9551 Жыл бұрын
There is very little difference from what I see, I have the Q2 mono and did a comparison to my A7C with a good contrasty zeiss loxia lens shooting in B&W, and the difference is negligible
@ronaldsand3000 Жыл бұрын
Great comprehensive review I suppose with improved image output of the M11, it’s probably close to on par with the M10 monochrome so results are excellent with all options All the very best wishes and kindest regards
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ronald, spot-on comment regarding the M11 Mono and M10 Mono. All the best!
@ChristophProtz Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comparison, I was able to play with it yesterday, pretty tempting (just need to find a new home for my M10 mono :first -)
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Danke Christoph, wenn ich auf Deine Website schaue ... das ist DIE KAMERA für Dich!!! You will love it :)
@ChristophProtz Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer definitiv, musste mich gestern beherrschen sie nicht mitzunehmen :-) Mein Hoflieferant sollte nächstens welche haben, mal sehen, ob ich jemanden für die M10Mono finde. müsste ich mich auf eine Kamera beschränken, war es bis jetzt die M10M. Ist auch im Studio meine Hauptkamera :-)
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@ChristophProtz Crossing fingers :)
@SnapJimmy Жыл бұрын
Helpful review as always, thank you !!
@RS-Amsterdam Жыл бұрын
OMG deeper pixels Hi Math, what are you doing to me ? Deeper pixels, a marketing buzz word invented by the marketing people of Sony a few years ago where the whole Photography community made fun about cause it is utterly BS, they even made T-shirt with that phrase to make fun out of it, and now you are using it. Your video is nice, as always, and plenty of shots to compare the different cameras that are some sort of competitors. However, when I would have got one euro for every time you said "sharp" I would have gotten an M11 Mono for free. SHARPNESS IS NOT THE MAIN THING OF A PHOTO ! What I also miss is micro contrast in your story, where a mono camera can perform better under the same circumstances MP and of coarse with a proper lens (cause that is always more important than the camera). However I will always choose real dynamic range (not the marketing bla bla) over mega pixels. In a conversation with Peter Coulson some years ago that subject was pointed and he also would rather have a 40MP H6 with better dynamic range than a 100MP H6 Also when shooting older lenses a lower MP is preferable (24-30 range) and will give you better results therefor the SL2-S with M adapter is so immense popular by people who understand this. This also the reason why e.g. Leica but also Canon and Nikon produce newer (same) versions of their older lenses just to get better performance with the nowadays high MP cameras. Now the Noctilux is not per definition the better lens, it is a lens with its own characteristic, something that is subjective, some people don't even like the output and I can quite understand that.. Compared to everything else out there around F 1.0 the Noctilux however is king. Looking at your your shots around 30:00 of that nice young lady I miss micro contrast, maybe it is the pore performance of You Tube but the shot are rather flat to me, maybe you can send me link to look at it without the YT compression. I am although glad that you shot the evening shot 3 steps under exposed and set the exposure right in LR, that is the way I shoot in the dark when I need faster shutter speed and I try to avoid stepping up the ISO (ISO invariant, or almost, sensors give you that option and is often better than stepping up the ISO) But if you like to do that please use Capture One cause it has the lightness slider with give you so much more control e.g. over the dark skies especially when you shoot in color and want avoid chromatic noise in the blacks that can NOT be taken away complete by switching on a dedicated tool, I moved to C1 about 7 years ago also for that reason and about 100 more ;-). Exposure vs Brightness / One Reason Why Capture One is Better than Lightroom by Studio Builder explains this better than I could do in words. And setting up an EVF, if there is one, for me the most important thing is the histogram cause that is the real representation of the image to be shot. Finally, you don't need MP's to print big images. For years I worked with a print studio that printed for major Museums over here so quality was mandatory and we printed very large formats, bigger than you will ever use, from 50 MP, 24 MP sensors and even smaller all with great results. Okay, thanks for sharing and please forget about the deeper pixels for ever ;-)
@RS-Amsterdam Жыл бұрын
@@wolper2155 thank you
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, my dear friend RS, this is the longest comment I ever got on my channel, many thanks for taking the time! Content-wise your comment is highest quality and spot-on like always. And yes I know, you always remind me that dynamic range is so much more important than anything else - at least I have one section in the video on how well you can correct under-exposed images so that section will help me to get away with the video without feeling your critics too harshly ;) On Stephanie's face, the micro contrast is in the original RAW file but goes away with KZbin compression, sorry for that. I have the camera here in the studio and will do a deep dive on dynamic range, high ISO etc. with the new final firmware, my firmware was pre-production. On "deeper pixels" ... to be honest, I did not even know that this phrase was invented by Sony as you pointed out ;) I just use the phrase without a specific underlying definition but clearly can speak in more qualified ways about that in the future :) All the best like always and thanks for your comprehensive thoughts!
@ducgerard2361 Жыл бұрын
Great test!... and great photos!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Many thanks, Duc!
@KCYT2010 Жыл бұрын
In your side by side comparison images the M10M seems to be quite a bit higher in contrast while the M11M has more shadow and highlight detail.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks - I will look into this in more detail next weeks, lots of things to try out with the new M11 Mono.
@satyarod5 ай бұрын
Great videos! I had a Leica M 246 Monochrom that I absolutely loved. Sadly sold it to fund a M10P. I know asked often- which of the M10 Mono or the M11 Mono is probably more organic if I can use that term? I have seen some say the m11 files are amazing and have a depth and range - but files have to be tweaked a little in post. For one that shoots in film and tries to do minimal in post- which of the cameras would need less post?
@OscarLopezs77 Жыл бұрын
Hallo, ich finde deine Videos immer sehr informativ und auf den Punkt. Hast du die M11 Monochrom für Langzeitbelichtung getestet und hast du Erfahrungen die du teilen kannst?
@RogerGaloubet Жыл бұрын
I haven't shot b&w images for over 20 years but before that the majority of my photography was b&w with a Hasselblad ELM camera shooting (mainly) Tri-X or Plus-X 220 rolls. I still shoot with Hasselblads viz. X2D 100c, X1D 50C and 907X-50C. I doubt very much that I shall return to b&w photography but I am intrigued with these monochrome digital cameras. But there is something I'd like to ask you, Matt, that doesn't appear to have been mentioned. Can you use colour filters to get the same effects that one used to get using film? For instance, using yellow, orange or even red to enhance clouds or maybe green to bring out details in brickwork. Have you tried colour filters yet?
@BrilliantOberver Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have X1D2 with the xpan mode, I must say I love the xpan crop very much, as I normally converted the photos to greyscale (not high contrast enough but with the vintage look close enough to original Xpan) in phocus by Hassi. I would like to know what is your experience of converting the monochrome photos , which is the best software, phocus? capture one? or LR? Thanks a lot
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
I have not tried that but looks like an interesting project to me, many thanks.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@BrilliantOberver I developed the RAW files in Lightroom Classic which is Leica's recommendation. If you go then for B&W, Silver Efex is a good software.
@RogerGaloubet Жыл бұрын
@@BrilliantOberver Hello there. I'm an "old fashioned" Hasselblad photographer that is used to the square format which is one that I still prefer although I'm quite happy now with the 4x3 of the X cameras. So I have no experience with xpan formats. I never convert my colour photos to B&W. It may seem strange but in the old days when I shot b&w negative film I saw my photos in b&w even though the image in the viewfinder was in colour. So these new monochrome cameras would be an interesting experience for me actually seeing the images in b&w through the EVF. I process my RAW files in Phocus and then finish them off in an old Photoshop 7. This 20 year old version has all that I need to get my images the way I like. No fancy stuff, just the basics like cropping, levels, cloning and printing.
@BrilliantOberver Жыл бұрын
Hi Roger, thanks for sharing your experience. It's always joyful to meet a Hassy master like you.
@DancersDiary Жыл бұрын
very nice video very NICE camera very well presented ... but.. I have to say that was always my dream camera that I could never have (£$£$£$) now using Sony with 55mm 1.8 and BW images are just as good (I hope)
@DavidDatura Жыл бұрын
I’d love one of these 🙂
@SLEHphoto Жыл бұрын
Hmm. Ein Traum, der hoffentlich eines Tages in Erfüllung gehen wird. Danke für dieses schöne informative und inspirierende Video. Beste Grüße SLEH
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Herzlichen Dank für das nette Feedback, much appreciated. Beste Grüsse aus Züri :)
@silvestrocrino32567 ай бұрын
You have some nice watches on your wrist in your videos.
@erospenatti4558 Жыл бұрын
Excellent camera 😍
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Y E S !!!
@mrcondorazo Жыл бұрын
Sorry for my question... what approximate Iso value is the maximum according to your experience... to take photos... without grain
@ArminHirmer Жыл бұрын
wooooow beautifullllll. Really really nice one. But I have the Q2M and better wait for the Q3 as companion. Seems I am not a range finder guy. Got a M8, nice but not for me
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Armin, the Q2M is a great camera with excellent image quality! And the Q3 will likely come this year ;) And clearly I will review it and post a video.
@mrcondorazo Жыл бұрын
hello.. thanks for the video.. a question I am working with the leica m11 monochrome. What limit experience could you give me for the iso? I want to take photos of low light but that do not contain noise when increasing the photo to 200%.. up to what limit would you use it?
@timothyhyde4565 Жыл бұрын
Good video, as usual. Any reason to believe that Sony 300gb/s are any better in these cameras than the slower 277 Sony cards?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Timothy. No need to have the fastest Sony cards. I just have the fastest because I use them also in other cameras where you have high frame number burst continuous shooting which you do not have or need on a rangefinder camera.
@rolandrick Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very detailed comparison. The wide open 75mm around 30:17 , do you focus by rangefinder + magnifying ocular screwed to the ovf or do you use the evf to get that consistent precise sharp results on the eyes?
@torstenw5168 Жыл бұрын
The hair and the arm are also sharp. But there is no black in the image, just dark grey. You can see it in the histgram too.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
For Leica-M tele lenses I often use the EVF when shooting wide open.
@stuartfeen92369 ай бұрын
Dear Math, A quick question that may require days of explanation. sRGB vs RGB. I believe most laptop and desktop LCDs are sRGB. And, while Leica once gave us the choice, I believe Leica is now all sRGB. Are we really missing anything today when we print using sRGB? Are all digital cameras today sRGB? Have I missed anything? Thank you.
@deejayiwan7 Жыл бұрын
Love that Yacht Master... So, do you also own a boat, next to almost every camera? 🤔🤔📸
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
No boat my friend, sorry to disappoint. I make in money what I need for a living but I am not rich, so no boat ;)
@skiiizo Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this review. As always it’s impeccable ! I have the Q2M that I adore, and since we sell Leica cameras, I tried for a few moments the M11 Monochrom we have on display, but I have to admit that I cannot get used to the rangefinder thing. My images are blurry, I don’t understand the technique. I succeeded in focusing through the LCD screen. I’ll try again tomorrow with a Visoflex that should be ok. A question for you : I find the raw files from my Q2M flat, are are the RAW files of the M11 in comparaison ?
@torstenw5168 Жыл бұрын
Your images are not blurry, that is the Leica look.
@skiiizo Жыл бұрын
@@torstenw5168 🤣🤣🤣
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Lol - I like Torsten's comment on "Leica Look" :) But seriously, if the rangefinder focusing does not work for you, go for the Visoflex EVF, this will work like a charm. Use focus peaking and magnification and you will see that your images will be tack sharp. On "flat appearance": the RAW files from all my mono cameras from Leica are a bit flat - that gives you reserves in post processing where you can enhance contrast, sharpness, light in shadows, dark areas, correcting highlights, etc.
@skiiizo Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer thank you for the input 🙂
@skiiizo7 ай бұрын
@@mathphotographer Hello ! I finally got my first Leica M camera. Working in a photostore and also a Leica Boutique, I was always laughing at our Leica M customers thinking that they were a crazy to buy such expensive cameras that offered so little in terms of functionalities. And after being in love with my first Leica, the Q2M, I was always going in our our Leica display and tried and tried the M11M, but never succeeded to make it work. So I tried with the Visoflex 2 and... felt in love like I did with the Q2M. I sold my Q2M to finance the M11M, but cannot afford for now Leica glass, although I can take from the shop whatever I want to play with, I bought 4 Voigtländer lenses. I always liked this brand. I got the 35 and 50mm APO-Lanthar F2 which are amazing, a 75mm Ultron F1,9 and the brand new Nokton 28mm F1,5 Type II. Of course leica glass should be a bit superior obviously, but I cannot afford the fabulous 75mm, nor the 50mm nor the 35mm Summicron. Would you ever make a video about VoiglÄnder on your channel ? It would be fantastic. Me making fun of Leica M shooters, I'm one of them now ! Hahahaha. Please Math, make videos about the M11M and share your tips and tricks.
@illicit0086 ай бұрын
Can you please put a sim card slot in the camera Mathphotographer?
@renestaempfli1071 Жыл бұрын
I like that SONY sensor in the M11 mono.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
:)
@webersteve1547 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work. I don't agree about your ideas about composition (but maybe this was to highlight the sharpnes of the lenses in the center , probably they are not sharp enough wide open). Also, the rendering of the Monochrom (I had two of them) is not to my taste , especially for portraits, but this is a matter of taste and can easyly corrected in post.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, appreciate your feedback. Composition is a matter of taste ;) I am always surprised when looking at commercial portraits from Leica, Nikon, Sony, Canon, Hasselblad, etc. how they don't care about the rule of thirds and therelike, they just place the subject in the middle of the frame. In these particular images I showed I like the composition but yes, its a matter of taste :)
@webersteve1547 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer mit der Leica M ist man halt besonders "verführt", da man schon durch den Messsucher auf die Mitte des Bildes fokussiert ist. Liebe Grüsse aus der Schweiz ;-)
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@webersteve1547 Liebe Grüsse zurück - aus der Schweiz in die Schweiz :)
@fbonde Жыл бұрын
Grüezi :-) Thanks for sharing. Super informative as always.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Herzlichen Dank, Frederik!
@PeterBalletta Жыл бұрын
Very nice video.... I started shooting & developing my own film back in the 70's and to this day I still love B&W. Currently I shoot with my original Leica M Monochrom CCD, My M10 and also with a MM246....one of these days I might upgrade to the M11 but my MM1 is a keeper...:)
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your positive feedback, Peter. And you are right, a "keeper" should not leave the collection :) The M11 Mono is the new standard for B&W photography without doubt, but the photographer makes the images not the camera :) Happy Shooting!
@mrcondorazo Жыл бұрын
Excuse me, the leather base case and the metal accessory for the leica m11 hagrre are also suitable for the monochrome leica m11?
@WILMORENO Жыл бұрын
man that 28 f2 is the perfect match for the m11m
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Indeed - a perfect match!
@mahdimanesh4221 Жыл бұрын
A crazy idea but how does an X2D compare in its output to the M11Mono, for instance using the 1.9/80? 😅
@geofflongford2008 Жыл бұрын
I'm very disappointed that the leica logo on start up isn't monochrome. I give it 3 stars.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoff, that's a really interesting observation ;) I like the start-up animation a lot, to be honest. And by the way, you will also see some color pixels on the LCD when activating focus peaking and choosing a color for the peaking ;) Photos will be always in B&W but the LCD will in certain settings show some colors for information.
@r423sdex Жыл бұрын
Yea ! Why ? I would pay another £500 if they make it black. Come on Leica, shape up !
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@r423sdex :)
@srkgv Жыл бұрын
What is sharper the Noctilux 50 1.2 or the Steel Rim 35?
@daviddb4858 Жыл бұрын
I hope to get one of these. I really like the look of the camera, without all the white paint letters or red dots shouting "I Am Rich! Mug Me and Steal My Camera!" a.k.a. "LEICA"! I like the specs, too, including the 256 GB internal memory! I noticed that you were not using the standard B&W filters, the R, G, Y, O. Can the camera add the filters electronically, perhaps allowing for density variations with each color filter? (That would be cool.) Or does one still need to use the basic B&W glass filters to get the traditional B&W effects?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Hi David, not sure I fully understand your question. The camera has built-in various B&W filters as shown in the menu walk through. They change the tonality on JPG images, RAW is untouched. But there are no color filters, the color filter has been removed from the sensor to get native and pure B&W. Crossing fingers for you that you get your own M11 Mono soon :)
@daviddb4858 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer In B & W film, the yellow, green, orange and red filters would block the wavelengths of the complementary color from reaching the film to a certain degree (depending on the density of the filter). This would enhance the image in certain ways, such as a red or orange filter making the blue skies darker; or the green filter lightening foliage. I am wonder if this selectivity could be done electronically (or digitally) on the monochrom sensor. You would thus not need to have color filters over the sensor as in a color camera, but a monochrom sensor that could be adjusted to select the wavelengths it processes, mimicking B & W the filters on B & W film cameras.
@webersteve1547 Жыл бұрын
The whole camera shouts "I'm rich", as all Leica. But who cares anyway (except thieves maybe)
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@daviddb4858 Got it, thanks David. Your idea is spot-on but not implemented. Would be great to have as an option what you described.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@webersteve1547 The Leica fan club do not care, they will buy this camera no matter what ;)
@steveGabrail Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video. How do you find the magenta cast in the M11? I simply can't unsee mine, unfortunately.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Not noticed yet, will check and pay attention to it when shooting next with the M11M.
@mrcondorazo Жыл бұрын
hello.. thank you for uploading these instructive videos.. i wanted to ask you.. does this leica have a button or can you assign one that magnifies the image. or magnify the object to be photographed. with the purpose of being able to calibrate the focus more accurately?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Yes - you assign zoom in live view to a button to do accurate manual focusing.
@mrcondorazo Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer thanks!!
@booksquotes9482 ай бұрын
Hello , can u review chronos monochrome camera ?
@davelawery4811 Жыл бұрын
Great Video thanks but, is the M11M Sensor a “Dedicated” B & W Sensor or the Sensor from the M11 with the Filter array removed? 👍🇬🇧
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dave. I assume its not a completely new sensor, its highly likely the M11 sensor with color filter removed plus some proprietary fine-tuning which turns the sensor into a native B&W sensor.
@davelawery4811 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer Thank you for the reply, very interesting. Would appreciate an M10M v M11M Review, that maybe an interesting comparison? Keep Well & Stay Safe 👍🇬🇧
@lucianocontenta640 Жыл бұрын
very good
@mrcondorazo Жыл бұрын
Excuse me, the leather base case and the accessory Handgrip for hagrre of the leica m11 are also used for the leica m11 monochrome?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Yes, all accessories for the Leica M11 are compatible with the M11 Mono, its exactly the same camera body.
@norberttolle6646 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the highlights in the night shot with the bridge, 22:11? They are all greyed out. Does the camera give this error, or did you do something wrong in Lightroom?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Pre-production firmware and likely highlights taken down a bit too much ... new M11 Mono firmware is now available for download, I will look into this again. Thanks, Norbert.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Actually, I just looked at that section which you linked in your comment in the video again, I see a bit of grey in two street lights but otherwise looks fine to me.
@norberttolle6646 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer At first I was very surprised that the camera in this price range still has this well-known clipping error. But you probably set the threshold too low in Lightroom. Sorry, but in a performance comparison we have to talk about something like that. Anyway thanks for the informative video.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@norberttolle6646 Its a good discussion, no issue with that. Thanks Norbert. I have done similar tests with many Leica cameras and they all have highlight clipping from, say, three stops over-exposing on. I am not sure if there is any camera which does not clip highlights if you heavily expose to the right. But as said, dynamic range will be the topic of a dedicated M11 Mono video.
@brettburton1477 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful
@danbar421110 ай бұрын
Very nice
@DavidDatura Жыл бұрын
Is this new camera also available in a traditional silver chrome finish, or just this matte black?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Currently only in matte black but maybe later also in chrome.
@DavidDatura Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer 👍
@UncleMichaelable10 ай бұрын
Does the Leica M11 Mono suffer from the freezing issues that the M11 does?
@314LA2 ай бұрын
the same
@bluestarcesium Жыл бұрын
Can you compare Canon R5 update with 400 megapixel pictures that are black and white with other cameras
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
I am working on a video about the new 400MP multishot feature of the Canon EOS R5 :)
@jmustermann4455 Жыл бұрын
Great Video - as always :-) Merci viehmau! I felt the M11 vs. M11M part a bit short. I really would like to see a more in depth comparison there - preferably with somehow affordable lenses like the Summilux 35 and 50 or Voigtländers APO-Lanthar.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You are welcome :) I need to look into dynamic range as well as differences to the M11 in greater detail when I find the time, point taken :)
@jcgellidon Жыл бұрын
WOW!
@gailjewelers Жыл бұрын
No mention of the Dead Pixels that seem to be coming up by other reviews
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Nope - no dead pixels yet on mine.
@walthornik Жыл бұрын
any lockups on M11 Mono when you were using it?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
No issues at all. But there is a final firmware now, my firmware was pre-production. Will install the new firmware and do more testing, of course.
@freekdeniro8623 Жыл бұрын
would like to see A/B test at 20k and 30k ISO and 1/2000
@amaitra Жыл бұрын
Your toys are the best!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Ha! :) Thanks for that compliment :)
@amaitra Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer your videos are very informative too! Unfortunately most of us lack all your toys!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@amaitra Thanks, and yes, guilty :) Leica gives me these gear and I enjoy them.
@testhifitesthifi4626 Жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für das, wie immer, sehr informative und angenehme Video! Ich wäre sehr an ihrer Meinung zur neuen Pixii interessiert, die ja vor und nach dem Bayerfilter das Signal vom Sensor verarbeitet und somit tatsächlich raw color und raw B&W (DNG) ausgibt. LG WK
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Hi WK, herzlichen Dank für das sehr nette Feedback! Die Pixii habe ich leider nie in den Händen gehabt, bin also nicht qualifiziert, hier eine Beurteilung abzugeben. Das technische Konzept ( pixii.fr/pixii-camera ) dahinter liest sich gut, aber um mehr dazu sagen zu können müsste ich die Kamera mal live ausprobieren :) LG
@testhifitesthifi4626 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer Hi, lieben Dank. Das verstehe ich nur zu gut und wäre auch meine Erwartungshaltung:-) lesen kann ich ja auch :-) aber wirklich interessant wäre ein Review durch sie. Die Pixii ist ja jüngst mit dem 64Bit Prozessor neu aufgelegt worden. BTW ist es auch die einzige mir bekannte, bei der man so etwas upgraden lassen kann! Ich habe sie bestellt, aber noch nicht erhalten. Jetzt ist Zürich auch nicht gleich ums Eck von Wien, sonst hätte ich sie gerne zur Verfügung gestellt. Ich werde mal mit dem Startup Gründer, David, Kontakt auf nehmen. Vielleicht gefällt ihm ja die Idee auch. LG
@testhifitesthifi4626 Жыл бұрын
Hi, David von Pixii ist interessiert. Wie können wir mal direkt in Kontakt treten? LG WK „mail2wk“ das komische Zeichen und dann „web“ mit der Dora Emil Endung
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@testhifitesthifi4626 Vielen Dank, in "About" auf meinem Channel ist meine Mail Adresse, David kann mich jederzeit dort kontaktieren. Happy weekend!
@testhifitesthifi4626 Жыл бұрын
Hi, lieben Dank. Leider ist für mich keine email Adresse auffindbar im KZbin account, auch nicht in den Infos/about. Vielleicht wird es mir auf dem Handy nicht angezeigt, who knows. Daher mein Versuch in einer der vorangegangenen Antworten meine Mail anzugeben, ohne dass diese von KZbin (das wird so nämlich) abgelehnt wird. Würde mich freuen, wenn wir per Mail Kontakt aufnehmen könnten um dann zu schauen wie wir das arrangiert bekommen. Ps: mein Interesse liegt nur im outcome aus dem Review. LG WK
@Sniper5354 Жыл бұрын
Production date : 2022/11/23!!!!!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
???
@Sniper5354 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer Sorry for the confusion, just want to say that it was already available nearly half a year ago.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@Sniper5354 Clear, understood :)
@colintraveller Жыл бұрын
When i capture in BW , affinity 2 renders it to a colour image
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Yes - there are actually a bunch of AI-based software tools which convert B&W images into reasonably coloured images.
@colintraveller Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer On the Leica how long does it take to fully charge the battery ? Is there a 600mm lense that can be used with the M11 ... It would cool to capture Aircraft given the pics that vintage kinda look to them .... Instead the bog standard Colour captures all the time .. especially Passenger Jets ,
@mg-leisure-monochrome Жыл бұрын
40 mpix M10 mono to 220 mpix of color sensor? Nonsense here. The resolution of color sensor is Nyquist number devided by square root of 2. It is about 30 percent lower in terms of LW/PH. The multiplying factor is about 2,25, therefore 40 mpix Leica M10 mono sensor delivers same details/ resolution as 90 mpix color sensor. Anyway pixel count is 40 million, not 90 :)
@cmolina31 Жыл бұрын
Thanks you. So tempted to sell a kidney! 😂😅
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Don't do it ;) You surely need your kidney much more than a mono camera, lol :)
@cmolina31 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer 🤪
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@cmolina31 Want to keep you in our community so be conscious about your body and health :)
@akhyarrayhka4048 Жыл бұрын
this guy grandchildren gonna inherit all those leicas
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Yes they will. Crossing fingers they have a sense for photography, lol :)
@ZhieNd32 Жыл бұрын
How can dng images can set to black and white in lightroom?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
There is a simple button for B&W conversion in LR Classic, converts the image automatically. Its on top of the settings, right-hand-side. Then you can export the DNG to where ever you want, really straight forward.
@ZhieNd32 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographeryou mean apply preset on import ?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@ZhieNd32 No - just import RAW, convert into B&W and then adjust and export as DNG.
@pixelmixture3067 Жыл бұрын
i was not blow away by the resolution difference between M11 and M11M ....
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Well observed, the M11 sensor already is terrific and hard to top :) And remember, the M11M sensor is essentially the same M11 sensor, just without the colour filter.
@nodrog777 Жыл бұрын
You lucky, lucky Leica fanboy!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Guilty ;) I am indeed a Leica fanboy :)
@ThomazMartinez Жыл бұрын
The highlights look more weird on M11
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
I will look into this in greater detail next weeks, have an M11 Mono here in the studio. And there is new and final firmware now, my firmware was pre-production.
@EugeneMaynard Жыл бұрын
👏🏾👍🏾🙏🏾
@sromrell Жыл бұрын
✌️out Mathphotographer
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Yes - PEACE OUT :) Have a nice weekend :)
@tjmanou6422 Жыл бұрын
I don't want to sound rude but you put so much emphasis on "sharpness" that you sound like one of those KZbinrs who have no idea what Leica is all about. It's a "bad" word to over-use describing such gear. None of the masters shooting Leica ever cared about “sharpness”. It’s about the “soul” Laica captures that other brands don’t. sorry don't mean to sound rude. Thank you
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Spot-on comment, your statement is by no means rude or offending. My focus on sharpness but also in one section on dynamic range is coming from the typical bunch of questions I get :) But clearly Leica is about the "Leica Look" including softness of bokeh, three dimensional pop in an image, telling a story, etc.
@tjmanou6422 Жыл бұрын
@@mathphotographer I agree. Sorry I keep forgetting this pixel sharpness obsession ppl have. Thank you for your reply.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
@@tjmanou6422 Your comment was a very balanced and justified view. I welcome such comments.
@uabpsab Жыл бұрын
First!
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS :)
@ralph95vip Жыл бұрын
Nah, they didn't make the LCD monochrome,
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Nope - the LCD is not monochrom since you also need color for focus peaking which makes perfectly sense to me.
@minoubichon2068 Жыл бұрын
Dommage, c'est toujours en anglais ! 😕
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Je ne parle pas francais ;) very sorry my french friend. I would love to speak french but I can't.
@Mowikan Жыл бұрын
Nice camera but hysterical expensive.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Expensive indeed, sorry.
@Paul-jb6rk Жыл бұрын
$9,200 for an aluminum top plate? Really?
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
Yes Paul, its expensive indeed. But the M11 Mono will nevertheless find a lot of buyers like most Leica products.
@datdudeinred Жыл бұрын
They should have called it M11M. Truly missed once in decades opportunity of a palindrome name.
@mathphotographer Жыл бұрын
:)
@jameskirk2579 Жыл бұрын
Leica are beautifull but they just are like trophy you wear to show. A fujifilm or Sony full frame sensors are way better than the ones in Leica but the difference is the LEICA LENSES.