New M5; Racing; Tuning Hybrids; More - TST

[@carguy3645]

I love it when you have this man on your show. He knows what he is talking about and is a true car enthusiast.

[@robertstahl8835]

Last time was a great episode ... Definitely excited to get this one started

[@apologiesinadvance4131]

Steven and his dad are the best quests for sure I wouldn’t mind some zuckerman podcasts tho or a Jerry

[@RichWithCars]

I love the technical talk...👍👏

[@mg-ss5tw]

By far my favorite guest.

[@bvedant]

Hard for me to pick between James May, Matt's dad Roger, and Burkhard Bovensiepen

[@Hb52354]

It’s the only time I actually listen

[@thomas7674]

Steve is back. Steve keeps it real.

[@narumis]

00:00 - teaser 01:58 - intro 02:40 - not speaking into the mic cold open, Steve getting dragged back into racing, and a discussion of the costs of racing 10:50 - does the knowledge of how to set up a racecar transfer over to street cars in terms of suspension stiffness? And a discussion of racecar suspension stiffness 15:10 - is the M4 GT4 a good racecar? And how big is it compared to the older M8/M6 racecars? 20:08 - BOP discussion 25:05 - are there limits on testing in Steve’s current series? And testing loophole stories 30:12 - the cost of figuring out how many clicks to put on the damper, the differences in dampers per racing series, and inerters 37:15 - “Let’s talk about street cars” - what does CarBahn look like in the world of hybrids? 44:20 - a discussion of current and past BMW performance cars, weight, and wanting cars to feel sketchy 52:45 - the change in attitude towards car hooliganism due to the easy availability of video footage for anyone to see, and the videos customers send to Steve 57:33 - what’s the deal with BMW’s 155 mph governor that never seems to be on their press cars? 59:21 - what is “tune stacking” and Steve’s adventures in making a meth(anol) kit 1:04:30 - discussing some of Steve’s BMW full engine builds and who is the customer for them? 1:08:02 - Steve’s Gruppe 5 project Patreon questions: 1:14:37 - is the auto M4 terrible or decent? 1:15:24 - what cars are currently in Steve’s personal garage, and what are your favorite non-BMWs to tinker with? 1:18:16 - imagine it’s 1987 and you’re looking for a Euro third-party company to upgrade your 325i, who are you sending your car to? 1:20:08 - I currently have an F36 430i, it’s a great daily but feels a little tired; do you have any advice for the 4cyl cars? 1:20:55 - Steve, what cars do you think get it the most right from the factory? 1:21:20 - some enthusiasts are pining for more feel and engagement rather than more horsepower and grip, is it possible for the aftermarket to step in and fix the numbness of some modern cars? 1:23:03 - what are Steve’s thoughts on the S65 engine and the rod bearing/other mechanical failures? 1:25:10 - what was the thought when starting CarBahn and deciding to offer upgrades for more than just BMWs? 1:32:38 - outro

[@dwaynebolan2583]

Thank you!

[@biafo4541]

Thanks dude

[@OdyTypeR]

45:13 - "You're not alone in thinking that"... but in _this_ room, you are *definitely* alone in thinking that. 😂 That was very diplomatic of you, Matt. I'm glad he got a chance to further explain his position, and correctly identify the e46. Thank you, Zack, for extracting that. Great show, Steve's always a treat. p.s. "I don't like meth. Do you like meth?" "I'm not a huge fan of meth, but it does work." 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ZondaF355]

The sheer amount of chassis dynamic knowledge to be gained by listening to Mr Dinan cannot be overstated. Knowledge that can really only be learned by millions spent testing and tuning. Fascinating I can't get enough! These always get me out in my garage looking under my hood wanting to make adjustments that aren't completely neccesary for a street car.

[@tonys.568]

Steve is back and TST knows a good thing! Podcast is out early!

[@coldload]

The past featurings have been some of my favorite episodes! Glad to see this freshie

[@WestsideCollectorCarStowage]

Indubitably

[@e46m54nissansr20937]

An hour and 33 minutes aint long enough now loved it. Im about to watch the most recent Lieberman TST pod.

[@Richestmanintheworld395]

YES!!! I could watch a new Steve pod every day

[@jue_boy4135]

Steve Dinan is my hero. I don't know how many time I have rewatched the last 2 podcasts he has been on

[@Bmwstephen]

can listen to Mr. dinan for hours. literally replayed this podcast twice. you guys need to bring Albert Biermann into the podcast!

[@feenyx6394]

Steve is such a great guest, he has many unique insights that us average Joes don't even know that we don't know

[@arthurs7882]

Awesome to hear that Steve tunes not in spite of the environment but in consideration of it! The backwards diesel community could learn a thing or two (And there are absolutely diesel tuners in Europe that will fit a test pipe or a valve)

[@chasetryon3870]

I've been waiting for this episode for what, 2 years now? My favorite guest by far and it isn't even close!

[@josephrener1]

🎉 early morning release! Great job Zack 👏

[@ThatCrazyCanadian23]

1st! Loved steve on the podcast even back from when you could hear bong rips in the background while he was speaking lmao.

[@pawelpowroznik]

35:00 Mass damper was used by Renault F1 in 2005 and 2006. It was banned after 2006 french grand prix.

[@JDMism]

Mr Farah asked great questions in the conversation about racing car setup and handling. Much appreciated

[@MrMihaiD]

Thanks for inviting this living Legend

[@Supercruiser66]

Great guest, very knowledgeable

[@discoinerror5886]

This guy is great. Love these Steve Dinan episodes!

[@Pursuit_Of_Speed]

I see Steve Dinan and TST, I click immediately

[@donsummers5678]

Young Zack in the controulés

[@jaykruze06]

Great conversation.

[@twistedsneaks1932]

Steve is such an amazing guest

[@rayestefania3725]

The guy really knows his cars! Such a great interview!

[@biggiefitz6275]

Clicked as soon as l saw Steve was the guest. I share the same sentiment towards the M5 hybrid.

[@Ludoppicco]

agreed on current M cars … older ones had more spirit/soul, meaning, way more analog with a lot more road feel, I love that the company’s forward thinking yet sometimes true forwarding thinking involves acknowledging ones’ own roots and revisiting what made one great

[@aaaaachew]

Dinan is the man!

[@608tttv]

Zack with no sleep 😮. lol thanks man. 608TT up early for the pod

[@PaulTC97]

good timing

[@MaxRPMs]

Does Carbahn still have the points system like Dinan had in order to get the badge?

[@CarToneHK]

Next M3 will be electric, but would have an ICE equivalent alongside no doubt, given what the M5 weigh, it'd be wise to make it a mild ICE hybrid

[@blackshadow7192]

35:17 I think Steve is confusing RB with Renault, which had a mass damper in the nose of their cars during the 05/06 seasons, they won two championships, beating Ferrari and MSC.

[@McGrory_The_Second]

Watching Matt think about a 6.0 v10 M6 manual and he seems 1 step away from checking his savings account... Matt, please please do it!!

[@GarageSupra]

Tune stacking is pretty much the same as the old way Greddy/Trust/HKS Japanese piggy back ECU's used to work... They would intercept signals from sensors and tell the ECU one thing but then overwrite information back to other parts from the engine. Been around since the 00's.

[@travis3810]

1:01:07 I was giving someone a ride home from work and my Bluetooth automatically resumed this podcast when I started the car... "I don't like meth, do you like meth?" Luckily we are engineers, so it was relatively easy to explain lmao

[@D_H_88_99]

S85 will never go out of fashion. If I had loads of cash and loads of storage I'd put a bunch of LCI S85's into safe storage

[@cs2294]

The GOAT

[@The_Stanman]

US enthusiasts often forget OEMs are global. M5 has to be PHEV for EU and China regulations. If it was just the US, it wouldn't need to be a hybrid. If BMW was facing just US regulations it'd be a different story.

[@aguruattapiano]

good timing! I'm having breakfast 👍

[@jtb9866]

Steve is likely correct on his thoughts on the new hybrids. Demand for just about every recently released hybrid model has been pretty poor. SF90, 296, Artura, C63, E-Ray, ect. People just don't seem to have any desire for these systems. I for one would be very hesitant about mid to long term ownership of the new M5 hybrid as BMW's prior Activehybrid lineup are all pretty much worthless now due to hybrid system failures and reliability issues.

[@kingjaf]

Sorry I missed the chance to ask a follow-up question to Mr. Calibration Steve D., but how much of the debate around EPAS steering vs hydraulic can be attributed to vehicle weight? Older hydraulic enthusiast cars were generally in the 2500-3500 lb range. Newer enthusiast cars are in the 3500-4500 lb range. If you put decent modern epas on say a 3000lb 90s era car would it give you the same feels as a 4000lb modern car with hydraulic steering? It seems like epas equals or exceeds hydraulic on steering precision/accuracy, but lacks on feedback, especially as you approach and exceed the grip limit. Modern epas cars don't seem to "go light" or wash out at the limit, its just grip then no grip. Hydraulic tends to transmit obvious load changes. Weight and tire tech are crucial variables in this equation and Steve seems like the perfect guy to break it down for us in a meaningful way.

[@AP-cc1uw]

Totally agree that the M3/M4 aren't the most interesting cars to drive. Giulia QV is where it's at.

[@jonnyturbo6142]

Very cool..just did a 24hr of lemons race and all this applies there too

[@poisonedpens7390]

Well, that loophole has been closed as IMSA announced a full field quite early this year.

[@davide8641]

whattalegend mate!

[@dwaynebolan2583]

Please add time stamps to your videos. Thanks

[@alanprobsten2858]

Steve, dude, brother; please make some parts for my z3, I know Greg from Bimmersrus and he said it’s cool

[@conspicuoustraverser7375]

🧑🏾‍💻I'm here, early

[@JonathanPfaff]

I've got the big tumors on my lips and inside my cheeks and all inside my mouth are premature tumors i hope that can get really better and well in future but its always difficult to chew and swallow. bleeding will happen often too. i cant help it and wen my ears click its like getting hindering dream bricks hitting in there. can you make it stop please.

[@jameswillard1]

The Ferrari 296 has a much longer electric range than the Artura. 15-17 miles of EV only. I hate hybrids as much as anyone …..so it’s super annoying that the 296 is so god damn amazing to drive because it ruins my whole argument. 😠 Seriously, that car is better driving than most every single Ferrari that the internet would have you believe is light years better

[@joshuamolina2986]

He will definitely not be happy about the new M3

[@georgebull-mclean3333]

Hey, Matt. Shut up and let him speak.

[@claytonlh]

👉👌🌈

[@phattiger1506]

I see these complaints on almost every guest appearance and I really don't get it? It always plays out like a regular conversation and I have really never noticed any interruptions.

[@gnoxycat]

Hybrids and EVs are not heavy. They are under engineered. The same way you fit a data center from the 70s into a cell phone, we can lower the weight of battery cars. Every race car should have to deal with the extra weight to move this forward.

[@Bob_Smith19]

You’re forgetting the part about the weight of current battery tech. They’re not getting any lighter until sold state is available at commercial scale.

[@gnoxycat]

@@Bob_Smith19 Right. Move the tech forward, with racing. Like racing has done with tires, suspension and even weight on ICE cars. Get out of those struggling piles and get with the program!

[@davidsanford9726]

Drive a Lotus Elan...

[@vvevvevvvv]

​@@gnoxycat racing is there. Ever heard about Formula E? Battery in those is half the weight of a car itself.

[@gnoxycat]

@@vvevvevvvv Racing is not there. I still hear struggling engines on a race track.

[@duviday]

who is this man? you never introduced him...

[@PHFilms3]

Like when you have Steve on but dude has a ego