New Malones Fishing Kokanee Salmon and Trout Techniques to get fish to the net gear up for big fish

[@JuanPerez-hd1vw]

I kokanee fish for over 15 years Definitely keep your speed! have fun enjoy the moment great video

[@fairplayfishing]

I was interested to see how much higher our success rate was at Whiskeytown we didn’t try snubbers and still did good took the motor out of gear only once and the speed difference was minimal if we went to neutral on the kicker so I’m thinking some other variable is in play. All part of the fascination of Kokanee fishing Tight lines

[@scinfo1129]

Definitely put the kicker motor in neutral while keeping the boat under control with the bow mounted trolling motor.

[@fairplayfishing]

I’m a believer thanks for the input

[@Mark-dj5qf]

Do not stop the boat.

[@fairplayfishing]

With you on that seems like a constant pressure is required and hope for a good hook set. When we fished at Whiskey Town we had a 90% success rate. The Kokanee were much more aggressive

[@vjmotano835]

I don’t touch any motors when hooking up. I may turn the kicker all the way to the side to circle the fish. Then as soon as I land it the kicker is straightened back and my other pole is still active

[@fairplayfishing]

From the information I’ve been getting and watching other anglers it’s the slow steady retrieve that makes the most difference in successful landing the fish and a quick netting. Thanks for your input Tight lines

[@DragonflyAdventures1960]

I Kokanee troll at 1 - 1.3 miles per hour with my 9.9 kicker. I catch limits more often than not and I never slow down while landing a fish. I do, on a rare occasion, have days when I lose a lot of fish during the fight and could never attribute to anything other than bad luck. I will try going to neutral the next time this occurs and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for all the info you shared on this video.

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks for the comment. The early season fishing is particularly challenging at least for me the last trip we went to neutral on the kicker leaving the electric to hold corse at a slower speed 1.1 and added snubbers. Our ratio went up to 80% from 25% last trip but not enough fish to give it a true test. And there has to be a factor added for experience. I’m sure yours makes a world of difference. It’s frustrating to loose fish when the fish are so spread out Tight lines.

[@DragonflyAdventures1960]

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[@brianhartley7384]

maybe slow down a little but mostly keep in gear or everything gets TANGLED UP

[@fairplayfishing]

It might be more challenging to fish the lake this year. Hopefully they will come up with a boat inspection plan

[@NolimitracingRC]

Great video

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks!

[@johnholman9313]

Keep it in gear! Also more likely to double up

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks I’ll post the Resort the opinion pole at the end of the month.

[@chrislatorre3875]

Neutral

[@fairplayfishing]

I’m with you we just got back from another trip and did much better with some new snubbers in the mix as well

[@Phishrman]

Great video, can't wait for Melones to really start opening up for the Kokanee bite. My opinion on the technique once you hook a Kokanee is to keep the boat in gear. But then again I try not to troll faster than 1.3 mph. Im kinda surprised you caught a Kokanee going 1.8 mph. Tight lines!

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks for the comment I’ll be back next week and give the 1.3 speed a try. It’s going to be an exciting year as the water warms up, but even with fewer bites, watching the fish come out of the water multiple times is a thrill. Tight lines.

[@billmacaras4146]

Leave the boat in gear. You want to keep pressure on the fish. I use a snubber as well. Stopping the boat defeats the purpose of the snubber. If the boat is out of gear, the fish can more easily put slack in the line and spit the hook. Where as if the boat is moving, there will always be pressure on the fish.

[@fairplayfishing]

I’m coming around to the merits of your approach. Slow and steady retrieval seems the most effective approach although the seems to be a seasonal change in the aggression level of Kokanee as the water temperature increases the more committed they seem on hitting the bait and a better hook set. Be interesting to see if others find this to be true. Thanks for the comment Tight lines

[@ajayfay]

I fish for Kokanee 99%. And nothing makes more sense than just keeping pressure on the fish. The issue in this video is two parts- one part that the fish have super soft mouths this time a year. Also, the guy’s reeling in the fish are way too slow. You need to keep constant pressure on that fish, and you need to keep the rod tip in the water and don’t stop reeling. And even then you better be ready to loose fish. The pros loose Kokanee as well. So, just keep at it. Getting them on the line is the first half of the battle.

[@Gary-mv7ht]

Great day

[@Finaddict5150]

is this gary edmunster the painter from blackhawk?

[@Finaddict5150]

i always turn it off or kick the gas motor to neutral

[@fairplayfishing]

Yes, Gary is mister Kokanee up here in the foothills. I’m just trying to learn from the master.

[@Finaddict5150]

@@fairplayfishing i knew a guy by that name i worked with for gary lebeouf in blackhawk in the 80s, anyway i moved to the valley long ago ive been fishing New Melones on and off over 24 years now.

[@fairplayfishing]

That’s him Gary lives up in Fairplay now I’ll let him know you recognized him and that your after that money he still owes you 😅 We will be fishing Maloney again soon hope to see you out there. We’re on channel 69 on the marine band give a shout. Tight lines Tight lines

[@jimsegger9116]

You never take the motor / motors out of gear while fishing for any salmon of any types the pressure isn't consistent and they will likely come off more often than not

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks

[@muehlenhaupt]

I think you should always jump in after the fish. Way more sporting.

[@fairplayfishing]

It’s been done

[@JUNationFishing]

I’ve only fished with a limited number of Kokanee anglers, but I don’t believe any of them cut off the kicker engines. I’ll pay more attention from now on. Now with trolling for big kings in the Sac Riv… that’s a different story. I lost three kings each time the engine was cutoff or speed slowed down. Afterwards, we made sure to keep the constant speed until the salmon is boated. Thank you for the video! 👍👍👍

[@fairplayfishing]

Great to have your feedback I’m thinking about using rubber snubers like the old school approach to increase the catch rate. I’ll keep you posted.

[@davidpickens6916]

Lead Core? What? 5-10 feet deep? Controversy ? Heck I have a float tube. I know nothing about no stinking boats!! :)

[@fairplayfishing]

Float tube is the beginning of a boat. 😂 It has been 5’ to 15’ in depth but on the trip last week my buddy on another boat found a school at 30’ off the launch at Glory Hole so they might be starting to school up and off that point is a place tubers could target. As a note the hybrid led core I use is supposed to descend 7’ for each color. Best of luck tight lines.

[@davidpickens6916]

Thanks. I do have a pontoon float tube, but I have not run that in a few years. I have electric motor where could actually do some trolling. I do need a new battery though.$ .... i'll have to get out to Tuttletown before they move out. Last three months I've been skunked, trying to catch trout finally picked up one last week there at Heron point, fishing off the shore. During that time I've been catching a lot of bass and two weeks ago I started catching bluegill they've come into the shallows.

[@davidpickens6916]

Got out on the tube this morning: pink fly tipped with shoepeg corn, sink fly line. Either side of the big parking lot, including the big parking lot around Tuttletown. Five bass... I can't get away from the bass. 😂😂😂

[@fairplayfishing]

have you tried jigging for the Kokanee ?

[@davidpickens6916]

@@fairplayfishing I never thought of jigging I know when I was trolling the fly I was twitching the line so it's there's a lot of motion going on

[@ronbaxman142]

I don’t understand why some guys leave there extra rods right in back of the transom,in holders were there in way of your landing a fish,and agree on taking the engine out of gear,or idle your engine to help get the soft mouth Kokanee to the boat.Always a good idea to point tip in water if they try to jump next too the boat.

[@fairplayfishing]

I’m going to take my boat out tomorrow and try out the snubbers as an additional cushion for the soft mouth on the Kokanee doesn’t help when they’re so fat and feisty, but it sure adds to the fun Thanks for the comment Tight lines

[@ajayfay]

Yeah, that rod in the back of the boat was annoying just seeing it.. lol

[@mikeshirlcook6817]

It was only obvious to me after losing the first three that cutting the trolling motor even at 1.8 was helpful at landing the only Cokenee that I caught that day.

[@fairplayfishing]

Great advice I am more used to fishing Kokanee as they school up later in the year deeper and the physical changes make them easier to get to the net. It’s been fun catching them this time of year but I can use all the advice to get the percentage to boat up Tight lies

[@Tiggitytye]

Melones is the spelling. Why so many guys who fish the lake can't spell it is beyond me.

[@fairplayfishing]

Oops

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks for catching that mental pause or is it paws ?

[@montanatackle]

If you used Montana Tackle Kokanee gear you wouldn’t loose these fish due to our Gamakatsu two-hook rig system. You’re loosing fish because you’re only getting the rear hook in the mouth instead of both hooks. Keep it in gear. #montanatackle

[@fairplayfishing]

I’m up for the challenge I’m ordering today and I’ll put your product to the test. I like your confidence!

[@fairplayfishing]

www.montanatackle.net/ this is a better link to the store awesome products can’t wait to try them out thanks !

[@montanatackle]

@@fairplayfishing Our gear has been on Melones since 1999. Tip: Gold dodgers out produce nickel (in most conditions)… And “oranges” out produce “pinks” (in most conditions) there. We have a few videos on NM… The best being “Spoochie Kokanee” from 3 years ago.

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks for that. The quality at New Melons is excellent this year should have a video out soon with a 20” Kokanee attached to your “spicy pickle” dodger with a “Gold fish” hoochie. Well a man can dream! Thanks again tight lines.

[@Tiggitytye]

how can you call that rig yours? I've been tying that rig for kokanee for longer than you've probably been a business.

[@fairplayfishing]

It’s going to be an epic Kokanee destination this year. The water was still very clear

[@fairplayfishing]

That’s one in the go to neutral column

[@jay-gx9uy]

Big fish and soft mouths kokes that you keep losing should always make you switch to neutral or at least a slower speed as they get close. Thats fishing 101

[@fairplayfishing]

Thanks your preaching to the choir

[@michaeldilbeck5859]

When you say Jay Fair, what are you referencing because he trolled flies for tout and you’re obviously chasing kokes with hoochies.

[@fairplayfishing]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rF7EdXesltiqr5Isi=uIWzqSKCkmNhrlvi Here is a video on the Jayfair line it has a half length of ledcore color and a backer of floating fly line. Flurocarbon leader you end up with about 160’ of line out by the time you get to the backer which in mono. A little pricy but can be the most productive presentation. Especially in the spring time when the fish are close to the surface. It’s hard to run two at the same time without tangling. Thanks for watching.