NEW Massive Tesla Discounts For 2025 | Lowest Price Ever

[@RyanShawtech]

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[@sbmahapatra]

Price of FSD should be $3k.

[@curtisoien]

If FSD plus acceleration boost were bundled for $3000, I would give Tesla a check today.

[@barttemolder3405]

It is not just the price of the software and huge data behind FSD, it is also the computers and cameras that go with it that every Tesla has and yet is not used for FSD in most cases. $3K is way less than what it costs Tesla, even its current price may not be enough to cover the cost made.

[@darith27]

@@curtisoienit’s already fast AF without acceleration boost

[@dr.markevers8331]

I’ve received 3 months of free FSD out of 4 months of ownership on my Model 3 LR DM. I’ve used it a total of 5 times, mainly to show people. I just don’t use it, so I’m not paying for it. Plus, even if I planned to use it, it is $100/ month so it would take 80 months of ownership for me to get “my money’s worth.”

[@pragsmo916]

Paid $60k for a vehicle…it should be free. Why do manufacturers keep demanding additional money on top of the enormous amount we pay for the vehicle. It’s pure greed!

[@U2B_Viewer]

I wonder how many sales were missed because the refresh model Y was not there in the 4th quarter 🤔

[@904TallerTim]

A lot, I got a model 3 but I wasn't even considering one until they announced Juniper was coming in 2025 and the tax credit might be gone

[@Yachtzeee]

Im in the automotive business. When I suggest a Tesla people overwhelmingly do not like Elon. It’s sad but true

[@thomasjacques5286]

I was one. We love our 2022 MYP but as soon as we saw what they did to the M3 Highland, we knew we’d wait. Our 2022 MPY is paid for so we are in no hurry. But we are also waiting to get two Power-wall 3s installed in March and that might siphon off some disposable income for a few months pushing our purchase into the fall. But make no mistake we are ready to trade UP but only for the refreshed Y.

[@brock1732]

Me! I’m waiting for the juniper Y

[@phillm156]

I know 4 people waiting for Juniper.

[@brianschmidt8392]

That's not a discount on the cybertruck. That's the rebate by the government

[@Republiks]

A pre-owned model 3- 2 year old- $20k-$25k, best bang for the $$$. Pay cash, be happy.

[@DANNYBLVCK]

that’s exactly what I’m going to do

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

A Cybertruck without AWD seems neutered.

[@kenweaver494]

Maybe but there are massive numbers of ice trucks sold every year that are only rwd

[@cheeriomartinez]

I mean, it can’t do much to begin with.

[@bats151]

See how many Cars you sell when you remove the tax credit ….

[@patricklondon962]

I can't wait to see that.

[@3PowRs]

I’m not so sure the tax credit will go away, some people are speculating it will stay during the trump admin. I guess we’ll see.

[@SteveWindsurf]

Tax credit is only there so politicians can virtue signal.

[@chrisg5101]

@@bats151 when they remove the tax credit, Elon will probably reduce all cars by $3500 or so to keep the sting minimal

[@Carguytct]

Tesla were selling cars before the tax credit, and they will be selling cars after. 🤡

[@temaus]

$100k household income isn’t wealthy. For Cali where most EVs are sold it’s not even middle class territory

[@terrancecloverfield6791]

Yup.....😅 Taxed out my ass and still the prices go up.

[@markdc1145]

Model S and X are both ancient and long past their sale by dates. Replace both models with a conventional large SUV that will drive profits.

[@georgelewis8831]

Elon is ok with removing All incentives! He specifically said to also end the oil co ones! So if Trump keeps the oil company ones we should keep the ev ones - and you and others should not promote them gone as inevitable!

[@raymondlawson955]

The oil ones will not be removed even if the ev subsidy is. Fact.

[@jasoncrandall]

What are the oil company incentives?

[@angryrabbitproductions1690]

If you can afford a $100k vehicle you will likely not qualify for the tax credit. Read the fine print.

[@lancerkind4055]

@@raymondlawson955 it’s incorrect to state “fact” when it’s a hypothetical. I agree that giving up oil subsidies during a Republican government is near 0%.

[@LarryEngel-b1b]

Big oil and electric generation has always been subsidized, you're confusing the industry subsidies with individual products, for the taxpayer to give an individual 7500$ so they can buy an EV is wrong. Tesla will be fine and the big 3 faced government penalties for not trying and are just putting on a happy face because they never wanted in the business to start with.

[@Dustyy01]

I really like your chill & objective way of talking about sensitive topics like the EV tax credit. Although I'm personally also with your opinion I just appreciate it that you just talk about it without any drama compared to almost everyone right now on social media

[@Kwicdrawmcgraw]

Problem with the Cyber truck is they alienated people like me that just wanted to range for the price they offered. Once they took away that 500 plus mile range for $70,000 most of us cancelled. Now they're disproportionately reliant on people who just wanted the Cyber truck so that they can stand out. However, they will begin to abandon the Cyber truck once it becomes less rare.

[@TheJfather1]

Yes I know for most people the range last probably isn't as big a deal but not delivering on the 500 mi range in my driving habits and current situation is actually a complete deal breaker I would have even gone for the cyberBeast or other equivalent top tier trim if it had the 500 mi range but now I'm not even considering the cyber truck

[@SlavGuns]

My Ford Lightning is already more rare than a Cybertruck. =)

[@chrisg5101]

I can see why you think this. However everyone doesn’t buy it just because of what others think. I bought mine because I genuinely liked it, and I think it’s unique. It drives very well and has the room for a 6ft 3 guy like me. I looked for specific things and this is the only Tesla model that offers it. I hated how plastic like the doors were on my 2024 Model S. With the cybertruck it feels like a tank and other than pressure washing the exterior you don’t have to worry about paint. Again there are many more things to like about it other than what you see in the headlines or people wanting to flex.

[@tedsimeonov9696]

I am with you 💯 I haven't called yet, because it's possible they incorporate the newer technology batteries with the 500mi range. But I did buy a M3 highland instead.

[@MotorcycleWrites]

@@chrisg5101a subaru impreza kept my 6’2” self comfortable for a thousand miles in one day a few weeks ago. That is not a selling point for anything but the absolute smallest class of cars lol.

[@1Quamish]

I would rather have power share than unlimited supercharging.

[@MatthewSerta1]

I’d gladly just pay the $2,500 for PowerShare in exchange for the free supercharging. I’ve had my PowerShare equipment since October and still no install appointment.

[@Bellatheenglishbulldog21]

I trade in my model Y and I got exactly what I owed and got my new model x. In terms of the federal credit, when I purchased my 2021 model Y, that didn’t exist, and now with this one, tesla gave me around 12k in discount because the end of the year and they wanted to get rid of inventory so that worked for me. No need of the tax incentive. At least that was my case.

[@nathanchen5154]

Can you share the details please? Did you qualify for thr 7500 for the x?

[@Bellatheenglishbulldog21]

@ no, I did not because the MSRP of the car was over the threshold. I got grey exterior with yoke, 6 seats and white interior. The thing is that the car was in inventory and I guess they couldn’t sell it for a while. When I placed my order, the basic to qualify for the 7500, I waited for two weeks for my vin. Got it the day after Christmas and a day later, it disappeared. Called and they couldn’t give me an answer taking into account that my loan and everything was in order. I texted them through the app and nothing. My husband complained and they called back with the offer. Even though I had to give down payment in this one, I’m paying the same of what I would have paid for the plain model x and this one has the extras that I mentioned before. Overall, super happy with my purchase. I know a lot of people love the Y and I did for almost 4 years. Please note that I work from home and had very low mileage on the Y as to probably why they gave me that amount. A friend of mine has a old model 3, 2022 I think, with 68k miles and he’s a little over 7k negative.

[@rickwarner8072]

Regarding the tax rebate on EVs, I own 2 EVs and received the full tax credit on both. Although I enjoyed receiving that money off of my taxes. I did not enjoy the face that other tax payers money had to compensate for that. Especially considering that buying those vehicles was my decision, not the other tax payers. I am for ending EV tax credits and reducing government spending so that many Americans can have a better way of life.

[@Republiks]

Meanwhile I happily drive my fully paid off Honda Pilot 2016. I owe nothing to anyone and am not worried about depreciation.

[@KenPaulsen13]

Smart! And when that doesn't run anymore, you can buy a used model 3 and it will save you even more money.

[@Republiks]

@ plan to keep it for 10 more years. Cars are #1 wealth killers.

[@iancarroll1246]

I have a well-maintained 2012 Honda Odyssey EX (bought new and paid off) with over 150k miles and I’ve had to spend more than the car is worth in trade replacing various engine parts just to keep it on the road. This is a big liability for high-miles ICE vehicles that my 2025 Model Y won’t share.

[@Republiks]

@ when did you see the issues start happening? I am 96k miles.

[@ssing7113]

Humble brag about being poor and not aiming higher doesn’t win awards. It just makes you not have what you want in life having limiting beliefs

[@VernIverson]

As Musk has repeatedly said, if you eliminate the EV tax credits then all tax subsidies for oil and gas should be eliminated too. Last year the US subsidized oil and gas by almost $1 trillion and the governments of the world spent a total of $7 trillion on oil and gas subsidies. This would allow an actual ”free market system” to determine what type of vehicles were purchased. My guess is that if this were done the price of gas would not be $3.00-$4.00/gallon? Maybe two or three times that price? Maybe more?

[@elementskater67846]

Everyone is saying that the Cybertruck qualifies for the Ev tax credit, which is true in a way. But there is no way to order one with the point of sale tax credit. Not on teslas website, or anywhere else. Tesla has yet to implement it, it is only on the IRS eligibility list. Online, the only option is the Business tax credit, totally separate thing. Not sure why no one ever mentions that

[@gordontyler9317]

I was going to mention the same. As of now, Tesla still only mentions the ‘commercial credit’ on their website which would not include residential use purchases

[@ElMistroFeroz]

It's not just about money saved with not refuling or needing oil changes or not needing any brake work. One thing that's unquantifiable is the time you'll never get back going out of your way to get these things done.

[@SlavGuns]

Offset by the time you are never getting back sitting at superchargers. I have certainly spent more time at superchargers now than getting cars serviced. lol

[@SuperShawn2020]

Love my Tesla!!

[@krakken-]

Love having sold my Tesla!!

[@BTC909]

I just see people waiting for the Juniper.

[@SlavGuns]

All this goes to show, the vast majority of the reservations were worthless. People were just speculating, hoping to resell their spot in the line. Releasing a RWD Cybertruck will get the price down, but completely stupid for a truck for most truck buyers.

[@brendykes1202]

Wrong. Plenty of us are quite willing to pay the original price. I cancelled my reservation because $100k(Foundation dual motor) > $50k and $80k(dual motor) > $50k. $50k is a great price for any new truck. $100k is not. Neither is $80k. I can make the payments on $50k. The only way I can make payments on $100k is if I lived in it.

[@SlavGuns]

@@brendykes1202 Correct, and hence why, all of those "millions" of reservations are worthless. You can go and easily pick up a Cybertruck tomorrow, without a reservation, whereas even just earlier this year, we were still told, "oh, you need to pay over sticker because it's going to be 2 years or more before you can even configure one." As far as prices... come on, when Model X starts at $70k... and a Model Y at $45.... who would seriously think the Cybertruck with the newest tech and a BIGGER battery pack would come in at $50k? lol. Especially when you look at the competition and those prices. My Lightning was $50k after all those massive discounts... but not a CT with a 30% bigger battery. I highly doubt we will ever see a new $50k CT... it's just not economically feasible.

[@Joeschmoe8930]

If you live in the south, south west and California, RWD is perfectly fine.

[@brendykes1202]

@ tell that to the people in Lake Tahoe, where it snows 6 feet at a time. People always act like CA is only SoCal.

[@brendykes1202]

@@SlavGuns Tesla has significant margins on the CT. I think the dual motor could get at least close to $50k, but the most likely scenario is that I get one for

[@BTC909]

Some manufactures are dropping prices. The ones that refuse to do so sales will tank.

[@AmericasAlgebraTeacher]

The tax credit was not truly passed on to consumers - it was a de facto revenue source for car companies. Evidence being so many manufacturers offering $5000 - $7,500 price “adjustments” or incentives on cars not qualifying for the tax credit. The EV space will become extremely competitive in the next two years and sans the tax credit the MSRP will have to come down, and dealer incentives will have to be increased.

[@arubial1229]

Yep, when the tax credit goes away, they'll just lower the price by $7500. If they don't, no one will buy EVs as they're already too expensive.

[@dr.markevers8331]

@@arubial1229not really. Have you seen the price of sedans? Without the tax credit the Model 3 sits in the same price band as an Acura TLX 2.0. With the better financing terms from Tesla, it beats the Acura. I feel the model 3 is even bit as luxurious as the Acura is and the Tesla absolutely smokes the Acura at acceleration and fun to drive. Driving the Tesla makes other cars feel like tractors.

[@thenerdoligist1292]

I made a reservation expecting to eventually (after the hype) get one for $57k w/fsd. After the pandemic/inflation, I was expecting $67k. I was disappointed at $100k introduction price but planned to wait a couple of years for the price to come down. However, the truck was so compelling to me that I paid the premium and am still extremely happy. The price and incentives will continue to make it more affordable but I don’t care…I am enjoying 📐every day and my life is better for it.

[@chriso847]

Will they also be removing all of the oil subsidies and dealership lobby subsidies?

[@oddsocksnz]

Nailed it!! Your the brother of the “digging the greats” dude! I’ve been trying to work this out since the Merry Christmas Charlie Brown episode.

[@petertf03]

We don't see these so-called discounts in the UK. We are still expected to pay around 40+% more than in the USA and even, more than the same RHD Republic of Ireland.

[@lawrenceralph7481]

Trucks should offer a free custom wrap job. Those confused objects need something.

[@jorgesmith2000]

100k salary is barely middle class. The rich don’t qualify for the EV tax credit. Just delete it. Favor of removing.

[@michaeldelrosario9511]

The problem with the Cybertruck is it’s range. We were told that 500 mile range would be available for the triple motor, but the 300 mile range is a big disappointment. I will keep my reservation, and maybe the 500 mile Cybertruck may appear in the future. Have been toying with the idea of a long range and model S with the claimed 406 mile range though.

[@chrisg5101]

@@michaeldelrosario9511 I wouldn’t do it. I just traded a 2024 model s long range for a cybertruck. The reasons are build quality, space and storage capacity. I liked many things about the model s but it’s built on an old platform. You can tell that they have tried to refine it so much over the years and you can feel that. But the door handles and doors feel cheap. The motors in the trunk sound terrible. The car is luxurious per se but the cybertruck is built like a tank. I like the solidity of it. The doors feel like a bank vault. The stainless steel is nice too because you don’t have to worry about scratches, etc. I will say the drive units and battery were phenomenal in the model s. The range was very nice. The car looks really good. But again I am a stickler for build quality, and in areas that are important to me it’s lacking. It’s weird though because getting behind the wheel it feels as good as any luxury car out there. It rides extremely well, but overall body build quality is out of date. Good luck, and I wish you well in whatever direction you choose. If you buy the model s just realize that you will lose 20-30k the moment you drive it off the lot. I paid 82k out the door for mine in may. I sold it for 51k in December and it only had 10k miles in perfect condition…. Be wise. 👍

[@SlavGuns]

I have the standard range, lightning, and the 240 miles of range, I have had to stop in charge just once. Having 500 miles of range is completely blown out of proportion, especially once you start factoring in all of the negatives that come with having and hauling around such a massive battery pack. I rent it for a week a 500 mile Silverado, and it was literally hauling dead weight for nothing.

[@PatrickCPalmer]

Thanks for the update, great info

[@lakersalex]

Can you imagine a Strategic Battery Storage Reserve?

[@SmartMart1658]

Here in the UK we can order the Tesla roadster. Roadster reservations require an initial £4,000 credit card payment, plus a £34,000 wire transfer payment due in 10 days. Reservations are not final until the wire transfer payment is received. They don't tell you when it will be available and they don't tell you what the full price is!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@pnketia]

Doubtful that legacy automakers will lower their prices on BEVs when the tax credit goes away! They will just shift to building more hybrids and ICE trucks with 2.0L turbo charged crappy engines while building limited number of BEVs.

[@markjackson7566]

NOPE, We were expecting to get the dual motor for $50k not a single motor and after a $7,500 tax credit that will be gone very soon. I reserved a dual motor and was expecting $50-58k. If and when it gets around that I will go through with purchase, if not I will stay with my Highland 3P.

[@ADOLPHWelker]

Can't believe I almost missed out on Cardano and XAI303e! Thanks for the heads-up in your video!

[@coltonmccormack8978]

Scam

[@kevinj6874]

We got the Y in March this year. We want the model X but will have to save for that price. But we love the Y. Cyber Truck needs more range for pulling a trailer before I get one of these.

[@FulltimingBrinkley3950]

I just checked the prices on Tesla’s website and I don’t see any discounts compared to recently.

[@llcooljay66]

I think the CT has alot to be desired as a truck. But is ok as a transport.

[@waterhouse1835]

you save money with no oil change but pay higher for tires

[@paulrybarczyk5013]

My Tesla tires seem to wear just fine, and I just replaced the 20s on my Ford F150 EV for $650. Thanks Walmart! 😊

[@MatthewSerta1]

It’s all about how you drive it. If you constantly need to do 0-60 in Mach Jesus then you’re going to need new tires constantly.

[@raymondlawson955]

2023 model y. 45k miles. Original tires. I race everywhere I go.

[@MatthewSerta1]

@@raymondlawson955interesting! I have a 21 model Y performance and I did that at first, had to replace the tires at 21k. Currently at 45k and tires are still good. So I assumed it was the slowing down hahah. Maybe slower also means slower corners.

[@ronin4580]

And you have personally experienced this? At 15,000 miles my tires (MYLR) will easily last for 25,000-30,000 miles.

[@tajdvl-advocate6113]

Waiting for AI5 and PowerShare on Model Y AWD with over 350-400 miles of rated range

[@trex2092]

Cx'd my reservation on the Cybertruck and I am patiently waiting for Model Y JUNIPER.

[@kevingray3690]

They need to offer a loyalty credit. I got burned buying a new Tesla during Covid.

[@CARLOSGuffey]

Bought XAI303e after watching your video, super excited!

[@DanWullstein]

Removal of $7500 vehicle tax cut would be devastating for me. I've been excited to buy a model 2 but it's out of my reach.

[@MatthewSerta1]

In the past I could use the tax credit to lower my tax liability at the end of the year. But this past year when they started allowing it to come off the top, I think that’s going to actually hurt me when taxes come around. I’m going to have that 7,500 liability this year. And if I claim more write offs to lower that amount, then I won’t technically qualify for it to come off the top and they’ll probably want me to pay it back. TBD on all that, but it’s not looking good.

[@ssing7113]

Who said it will come with rebates ? No one knows.

[@markjackson7566]

Have you looked into getting a 2-3 year Model 3? If you find one under $25k from a private seller and y'all process the deal through Keysavvy they will process the $4k discount for you up front. I just sold my 3 for $24800 and the process was easy and the buyer only had to come up with the $20,800 and Keysavvy sent me my $24,800 win win.

[@veritas1407]

Pretty simple why units are down. You can get the same car models for a fraction of the new price. Like the civic of old, the used Tesla is the best deal on the market IMO.

[@kathleenclark3518]

How do you get a referral code

[@KenPaulsen13]

Today, many (most?) EV shoppers mid (>$100K) to high earners. Silicon Valley / Seattle tech workers are a key market ($ and tech savvy). Most tech workers do not qualify for the credit today, meaning they have to pay $7,500 more than others -- these people do not want to overpay, so are incentivized to buy ICE cars (to avoid losing $7500 in equity immediately). Further, on the low end, buyers have to pay $7500 in taxes to be able to fully benefit from the credit. My parents have the $ to buy one, but their retirement income does not allow them to take full advantage of the tax credit. So low to moderate income households also are not incentivized to buy EV's. This unfair credit shifts demand to a much narrower market. If it went away, it would open up new market segments to get the same pricer as others.

[@whowhy9023]

Ford & GM’s US sales are growing, so is Toyota, Honda and others. Only Tesla shrinks. Elons disastrous brand management is on show.

[@keithcrandall1369]

cool story bro, except it's not true

[@Katrina-mx2sf]

He's way too polarizing.

[@TheCpuken]

Cyber-Edsel was a disappointment: 1. More expensive then announced, 2. Less range then announced, 3. Politics

[@crossftmountainisland2468]

I’m not seeing that tax credit applied at POS. It looks like it’s still the commercial credit only. Am I missing something? Or is he just anticipating the point of sale credit being applied at a future date?

[@glenjones172]

I think removing the tax credit would be harmful. I got an EV with a lease only because of the tax credit and I got a bonus from work because I signed a contract extension. And I am by no means rich.

[@wj9494]

I really wish you would refrain from referencing the "average battery". You mentioned that the average battery will last 200k miles - That means that 50% (half are below the average) will not make 200k miles. What if you happen to be one of the half that doesn't make it? If you want to instill confidence, then warranty the battery for 200k miles - that will do far more for my piece of mind, especially for used vehicles.

[@trex2092]

SO GLAD we dodged the bullet with the DEI hire Kameltoes.

[@rickblanton4328]

I think they should just remove the requirement for US parts to qualify for the credit. This hurts the diversity of the battery offerings. They should instead incentivize American businesses to enter battery production separately. However, removing the credit entirely doesn't make sense as long as we continue to subsidize fossil fuels.

[@25Alpha]

There's a lot of talk about how long the battery lasts, but what about the electric motors. How do they perform after 200,000 miles?

[@dr.markevers8331]

120,000 miles; 8 year warranty on battery and motors. I’ll let you know in a decade. 😅

[@thiseye]

That's definitely the most unique pronunciation of taos I've heard 😂

[@huskerredskin7253]

I enjoy my Model Y. But every time I am in bad weather, my FSD is either limited or disabled. So, Robotaxis still has a long way to go.

[@NakedSpaceMan]

Getting rid of the tax credit is going to all but stop all EV sales. Nobody can afford 50+ thousand dollar cars

[@dvader3263]

Not even close to being true. Tesla sold almost 1 million EVs at a profit in 2021, without tax credits. Tesla sold 1.3 million EVs at a profit in 2022, without tax credits. Then Tesla sold 1.8 million EVs in 2023, with tax credits, to those who qualified. For 2024, it was 1.789 million EVs for Tesla.

[@NakedSpaceMan]

@@dvader3263 They also are the only game in town that sells EV's at low cost. It's not a coincidence that Elon wants the tax credit eliminated

[@MatthewSerta1]

We need to interview the driver with 300k miles. We need to know his supercharging habits and daily limit habits.

[@DanielAguiardeMelo]

removing ev credit will be harder for EVs to compete against hibrids and ice cars. But it is more responsible with TAX DOLARS. I have 2 Teslas, and even though I love them, it is not correct to receive money from tax payers to buy one.

[@frankcoffey]

How many cars did Tesla sell when there was no credit available? Yeah, a lot.

[@OweEyeSea]

FSD reminds me of the push years ago for 3D televisions. The manufacturers, investors, and enthusiasts all wanted to believe it was the future and that they could charge a premium for it. But the majority of consumers weren't interested even at a modest premium. Just because the technology makes something possible, doesn't mean the demand will be there. I am into technology and gadgets and spend a lot of money on it. But I have no interest in FSD even at $100/mo. I really don't mind driving around town. And for long freeway drives, adaptive cruise control, lane keeping, and collision detection I get "for free" are perfectly fine.

[@mitchlewis535]

"We have almost every detail confirmed for this car" (when you're talking about the new Model Y) Do you have confirmation that it will have a front light bar as well as a rear?

[@stevewood4957]

Doesn't Tesla just raise their prices to absorb the $7,500 tax credit? If the tax credit goes away Tesla will just lower their price back down $7,500 to continue selling cars at the same pace.

[@chrisg5101]

@@stevewood4957 totally agree (Tesla) is making a lot of profit per car so they can afford reduced prices a little if the tax credit goes away. All of the vehicles they sell for 80,000 would go to probably 75K. And so on and so forth

[@h-sunny9918]

Dude $7500 tax credit is only for commercial use

[@1981billiam]

I’m looking into getting a “Y” or juniper. I test drove the 3 and Y, I was impressed. I’d go for the “Y” because of my family needs.

[@yeswecn]

The EV tax credit is beneficial and should stay. $112B in tax incentives is a drop in the bucket compared to other unnecessary wasteful government subsidies/programs. If Elon thinks getting rid of the EV tax credit would give Tesla an edge over other EV manufacturers, then he should be ready for a rude awakening.

[@dylanwhite6539]

Abolishing the EV tax credit is fundamentally stupid. The oil & gas industry has received over ONE TRILLION dollars in subsidies since circa 1975. However I DO agree that it benefits the wealthy too much. I would say the best approach would be to offer more discounts on cheaper cars. A $45000 car gets 8k off. A 60,000 car gets 6k off, and a 80k car gets $4k off. This serves to still incentivize the wealthier buyers, but pushes mass market EVs more aggressively.

[@lawrenceralph7481]

As time goes by, this tech becomes ordinary and mundane.

[@robsengahay5614]

I must be unfortunate because my 2019 SR+ has lost about 15% of its range despite less than 70,000 miles (103,000kms). But I live in a hot climate and that is known to be bad for batteries .

[@samipoykko7789]

Name a car that needs oil change every 5,000 miles?

[@WaggingandWeaving]

I called today and they said it doesnt qualify for the 7500 tax credit

[@robp3431]

"Delivered", that's like sales less 35%

[@RickiBeard]

First Elon bought X and now he launched the XAI303e token this year is crazy

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I am assuming based on sound scientific analysis that the 2170 batteries are likely to outlast all other pouch and prismatic type of NMC batteries just due to the mechanical soundness of the 2170 cylindrical cell verses the other products.

[@brooks6295]

Compared to the rest of the EV market and car market in general Tesla's number look pretty good.

[@guyg2005]

One GWh is One million kWh. So by Tesla selling 31.4 GWh of battery storage in 2024, to help WS understand, this equated to 392,500 Tesla cars with the average EV battery pack of 80 kWh. Plus battery storage has much higher profit. Happy New Year!

[@jeanraymond9114]

A year over year decrease in decrease is not good . Need to reverse this in 2025. The inflated stock price counts on significant growth

[@FutureSystem738]

The sad fact is that Elon’s recent stupid antics and political dabbling are costing LOTS of sales. I know lots of people who now just won’t consider Tesla because of Elon. Yes I know that’s stupid- what do they know about other CEOs- usually nothing. However the fact remains. 😢

[@ancientsymbol]

Yeah plus there’s such hatred for the CT it’s a bit alarming

[@daddytaz7123]

Ha! They think Tesla miss quarter sales bad.. yeah right, compare it to other auto makers. You’ll see who’s really hurting.. why you think all of them have to join together to compete with Tesla and byd.

[@MegaHops1]

Phasing out the tax credit will strengthen the EV industry. Subsidies are cancer

[@hadtobe4502]

I suppose when the sales are down, the price follows. Doesn't help resale of current owners - also down.

[@quubspace]

Taking away the EV credit knocks a lot of people out of the market. Without it they will choose a gas powered vehicle. Price is a major consideration in buying a car. Pricing people out of the market when the manufacturers are not hitting full stride (there needs to be more than a few) will not end well.

[@mitchlesniak7829]

I believe it will impact new car sales, but it will lower used ev prices as incentives disappear.

[@AzamHaq-f6u]

Love it

[@mmeiselph7234]

$7500 credit is means tested, so no dice. My reservation was for a $49,900 AWD, so the current price is still $30k above what I was expecting. I fully expected an inflation adjustment-which means the $49.9k truck should be ~$63k, not $80k. 2WD is not what I signed up for, I'd not buy the 2WD for $49.9k. If this vehicle was the same price adjusted for inflation I expected, it would already be in my driveway. I should add that while waiting I started thinking I might go for the 3 motor at $80k, this isn't about money availability.

[@angryrabbitproductions1690]

Idk, the CT’s pierce increased by 50%… that’s quite the markup. The top range model was supposed to be $69k… the current Cyberbeast price is $105k. That’s a $35k or 50% markup. This on a vehicle that was supposed to be super cheap to produce due to the advanced manufacturing techniques. Seems any savings have been pocketed by Tesla instead of passed on to the consumer. The all wheel drive model is $82k… I don’t include the tax credit. If you can afford a $100k vehicle you will not qualify for the tax credit as you likely earn too much annually… so it’s a mute point.

[@jairotrejo77]

Would their numbers help if they encourage trade in for older tesla owners... i would like to trade my car, i bought my model Y when it was priced at 60 k, still hurts me...

[@jeffreythurnau6796]

I think the EV Tax Credit did exactly what it was intended to do. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of ICE cars have been taken off the road and replaced with clean running EV’s. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of drivers have been introduced to the benefits of owning and driving EV’s. They can see for themselves the amount of misinformation and FUD about EV’s in the news media which is mainly financed by big oil and the traditional automakers. Plus friends of the new EV owners get rides and positive feedback, potentially turning them into new EV owners. Veronique De Rugy’s article about the EV Tax Credit benefiting the wealthy and contributing to the Federal tax revenue deficit is exaggerated and misleading. The annual cost of the EV Tax Credit to the Federal Deficit is about $2 Billion. I would argue that the large tax cuts given to the wealthy during Trump’s first term as president (annual cost of $283 Billion to the Federal Deficit) along with the millions of dollars of tax breaks given to the big oil companies and their wealthy investors annually for oil exploration (annual cost of $20 Billion to the Federal Deficit), contributes more to the tax revenue deficit then the EV Tax Credit. Plus the super wealthy are the ones who benefit from Trump’s tax cuts and oil exploration tax breaks, while the middle and upper middle class are the ones that mainly benefit from the EV Tax Credit. Let’s just hope that Elon doesn’t inadvertently kill this EV positive trend when Trump starts getting pressure from big oil and old auto makers to kill production of EV’s. Like Trump has said about backing oil exploration, “Drill, baby, drill”.

[@avaughs]

Recurrent doesn't support the Honda Prologue. 😞

[@cinthe3]

I feel like they are gonna eventually take the incentive back out of people

[@JANSloan-w7d]

I love how you broke down the XAI303e project in your video! Can’t wait to see it skyrocket!

[@coltonmccormack8978]

Scam

[@robertmargeeweaver]

Removal of the EV tax credit will put me back in a ICE vehicle again. EV makers will need to discount their vehicles or forever lose the business in the future.

[@typical-dad314]

You might call it a fire sale.

[@TylerR909]

The supercharger voting stuff is kinda irritating because it seems like a popularity contest. I live in Boise and all of our North/South charging options are crap. To go from Boise to Couer d'Alene or Kalispell/Glacier you have to go way out of your way to stay charged. We could use ~4-6 chargers along Hwys 55/95 and 93 but good luck ever winning a popularity contest for those :(

[@StarInfinite00]

The cybertruck is going to be a bust if not cheaper 😂😂😂

[@LoganX00]

As someone who owns a Model Y LR and genuinely loves it, i cant stress enough how much damage Elon has done to the brand. Ive talked to at least 5 people who are in the market for a car and none of them will even consider a Tesla and they specifically site his politics. Most of them are looking at the ioniq5 and EV9.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

My only qualm about Tesla is I cannot see current FSD revision unless I buy in advance the monthly FSD subscription I wish Tesla would fix this as it likely leads to other like me waiting till they have confirmation of the newest FSD release from others in the same country (Canada in my case).

[@nosoupforyou425]

Not leaving my x for anything other than an X. With only 80k on the 2021 I am good unless a ridiculous deal arises