New MMA organization announced. Full details revealed w/ Pettis & Lee | The Ariel Helwani Show

[@Briar_Dow]

GFL, Grand Father League. If you didn't get TBI during your career, here's your chance."

[@aswerty911]

Weidman, Guida, Anthony Smith will be the new stars of this promotion before too long

[@boxmanic]

Tony Ferguson 😅

[@KBWarrioR2018]

Jack shore too

[@seanshamrock724]

Grand opening, grand closing

[@acpjr]

Damn 🤣

[@allybaapp1053]

Grand opening, quiet closing.

[@KBWarrioR2018]

Hahahaha bro

[@owaiscarneiro226]

If there is a new promotion ain't that great? Why we hate?

[@shootermcgavin6610]

It's pretty much bellator but worse. They're UFC fighters that are retired, Mir! Silva! Surprised he didn't mention chuck Liddel and Couture

[@BrickFlairMMA]

Seriously everyone is just so ready to se this fail already!

[@Sdot-od8jf]

I heard Tim Sylvia and Tank Abott are coming back to fight for HW title.

[@John-i1e7p]

Because the ufc is the only promotion that should be running the show. And because these promotions feed off retired ufc fighters

[@owaiscarneiro226]

I agree that ufc is king I agree on that and maybe the second promotion could be ONE FC But like let's see this format , I personally never watched IFL , PFL so let's see

[@MuhammadImardBruceLee]

Sounds less like a new league and more like a reunion for retired fighters

[@davesullivan4289]

Imma watch

[@dr.evil2some847]

Its a shame that the comment sectiin usnt more positive about this. A perfect league for fighters on the back nine. This could b a better platform for fighters who still have good fights in them like Cowboy or Feldor, but arent UFC championchip material, as well as current mid fighters like Holland or many many fighters we could name. A place where Jim miller could b champion!

[@FightMoney]

EXACTLY!

[@j.b.595]

Bootlickers the lot of them. If you’re an mma fan you should be excited about this.

[@FentyMixx]

@@j.b.595Have fun pretending to like watching a bunch of 50 year old retirees fight each other, I guess.

[@FentyMixx]

@@j.b.595you must feel real unique bro

[@j.b.595]

@@FentyMixx Absolutely lol

[@plushpc5992]

Bro why even mention Wanderlei Silva? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@BestBuzzHoneyBees]

GrandFathersLeague

[@John-i1e7p]

Ariel loves to celebrate new mma promotions that are gonna die out in 2 years.

[@Sim0n98]

Whats the over/under for how many events these guys put on next year?

[@bredin9199]

doesn’t matter , I’m tuning in for sure

[@mdailey119]

3.5

[@gematriagoon]

5

[@imfamouswarrior2976]

People are clowning people for saying Dana should be nervous, but he should be considering other promoters are starting to scoop up YOUNG talent. Sure the end game is UFC for all MMA fighters, but these other promotions do affect the depth of the UFC at the end of the day.

[@Mr-E.]

Rampage had an idea to create a fight league for retired older fighters. He will definitely join it

[@owaiscarneiro226]

Why we hating on this?😂

[@John-i1e7p]

Why aren’t you hating on this ? Ariel is pretending a fighter league with fighters that are retired from the ufc is even worth are attention. He just wants to see the UFC fail and if he has to promote a promotion that is clearly filled with a bunch of old people than so be it

[@AutoPil0t459]

It's not hating but calling out the obvious, this guy is more sneaky than Donn Davis and it's pretty obvious

[@Dylan-mn1qv]

10:54 This guy is trying to make it out as this is a legit organisation but these are the ages of the first 10 names hes announced in order: 42, 47, 37, 47, 40, 46, 40, 35, 48, 37. And the names after aren't much younger.

[@crazypato3752]

Lets give them a chance. If they used young prospects that nobody knows It wouldn't do well

[@Dylan-mn1qv]

@@crazypato3752 if it was all late 30s fair enough, but having people in their late 40s like Wanderlei whos spoke openly about how cte is affecting him is just pathetic

[@John-i1e7p]

@@crazypato3752 if they use retired ufc fighters than it will never work, every promotion has tried but failed. What makes this promotion different?

[@FightMoney]

@@Dylan-mn1qv Wanderlei is probably gonna coach

[@EnigmaMaster]

GFL: ok so hear me out what if we paid the fighters more and sign a bunch of past their prime UFC fighters One FC: you should totally do that UFC: We see no issue here. We love "competition" PFL: ...... Bellator: ........

[@djdidierdrogba6164]

bro FRANK MIR !?!?!?!? lmfaooooo that mf got ONE arm lmfaoooo

[@Nick-kb2jc]

Nobody stands a chance against the UFC. Until these organizations start to realize that it’s entertainment and drama sells fights, they’re all doomed to fail.

[@Sdot-od8jf]

I don’t think that’s the reason they go out of business. UFC creates an end to end machine. Promotion, broadcast, fighter relations, contract management, operations, production, match making etc. it is a well oiled machine.

[@meatball2746]

Grandpas Fight League

[@joshuarittenhouse4938]

Heck ya. It's already stacked🤙

[@shadysam91]

What a mess. Another PFL but even more confusing and unrealistic.

[@ryanread525]

More like WCL Chuck Norris shit from 2006-2008 😂

[@TelvinKipapa]

This is interesting not gonna lie. I'm definitely tuning in.

[@noahbradley7910]

This actually sounds like it could work, MMA is growing at an insane rate

[@jordanyoung1084]

Gives ex UFC guys some money, I like it!

[@j.b.595]

Exactly.

[@BrickFlairMMA]

I think this sounds fun and people shouldn’t be so quick to just shit on it and pray it goes out of business before it even starts, give it a chance the more options we have the better

[@taskmaster65]

Can someone tell Kevin Lee that's not a handheld microphone? The distortion is brutal.

[@FightMoney]

UFC needs comp. Ima watch

[@oz3684]

Helwani front row at the knicks game tonight

[@qnp1236]

i saw that lmao

[@IsaacPerreault]

Making an individual professional sport into a team sport has yet to work.

[@boxmanic]

ngl World Fight League sounded 🔥

[@ant8914]

If they let the fighter have sponsored gear that would be cool af. Have the fighters make money other ways, and put on fun fights.

[@colby-n4d]

very interesting concept wll see how it playes out

[@Camelolivegreen]

Hell yeah… excited to see a good amount of these athletes fight again … they should bring a women’s atomweight division to the west before the UFC

[@DmDaPDm]

Kevin lee actually sold me on the idea, hes really good at talking, he needs to be one of their main guys

[@walzy8130]

Ariel has already forgotten Robelis Despaigne ‘Robis Dispine’😂

[@mashdeli]

This is actually exciting

[@bradenswanson2653]

This is exciting, especially if we can make it less confusing than pfl!!!

[@colbylandwehr3334]

I like this formula better than the pfl. Need big names

[@lawncareprosllc534]

It sounds like IFL from back in the days

[@RunEnabled]

No one cares. Ufc is king this league will go bankrupt quick

[@bubbabuttz1629]

You're a bum

[@gustavorivas3298]

Stop yapping

[@paddypimblett7430]

I hate how youre so right 😢

[@UndeadCorpse6]

Ufc casuals are toxic to the sport of mma

[@mindblown42069]

Good way to burn some money.

[@ryanread525]

Soooo it's the MMA version of Chuck Norris's WCL that went from 2006-2009 maybe?!

[@gtivr6racer]

I am sure a lot of the older names like Wandy and Mir are coaches for the teams rather than competitive. At least till they start dying and make super fights lol

[@jmhollingsworth8396]

Im honestly very worried about Frank not wanderlei and Marlon moraes they don’t need to be fighting anymore

[@Chinoalphawolff]

Idk .. i mean i will prolly watch it but this guy did not sell me on it ..they need a new face to represent them. But they dropped the ball hard not allowing sponsorship for fighters

[@noahbradley7910]

They pretty much did, 50% of their sponsors goes to them

[@aquaboy2022]

I notice Ari Emanuel doesn't attend UFC events anymore...

[@Tauma_Nubez]

Bantam weight is 145 💀💀💀

[@BestBuzzHoneyBees]

I still don’t understand how this is going to work.

[@626DforDANK]

Smh just being the org that makes less profit isn’t enough of a reason for us to watch. They better have some fireworks up their sleeves

[@jacobmontana]

holy shit is that nate bergatze or that CEO who got shot

[@sandman62100]

Dana White should be VERY nervous.

[@gamebredo8880]

Bruh.. the UFC is good and untouchable for atleast 20 yrs to come minimum

[@plushpc5992]

@@gamebredo8880he’s being sarcastic

[@sandman62100]

@@gamebredo8880 The moment you think you're untouchable you've already lost. UFC is Blockbuster and GFL is Netflix.

[@shootermcgavin6610]

Hahah ot the same thing, did you hear the Big names he said? Wanderlei Silva! Hahaha wtf that dude has brain damage

[@John-i1e7p]

@@sandman62100didn’t PFL say the same thing. And how’s that working out ?

[@SergH.]

But why the city attachment to the teams? Just have the teams with names

[@kokoloveschevy3736]

These fighters are already past their prime. That's why I do not see this lasting.

[@vinnierkc]

Bro people talking s but I see some really sick names. Whether or not it will be the biggest success, I bet this league will bring fireworks

[@randydillabough3469]

It's almost all old guys!!....This isn't gunna last with teams and all the weird stuff!!!

[@vtrndre3728]

The only way any new MMA organisation can come close to competing with the UFC is how much they willing to pay for their fighters.. unless Saudi money comes into play it can’t compete

[@chrishutch2387]

These guys gotta start somewhere, and why not with fighters who already have some following… I. Wonder how many billionaires had these same comments and negativity thrown at them…

[@deaglefly4338]

50/50 revenue share. I pray these guys can do great so ufc has to up there pay from 14%!!!

[@themiguellebron]

50:09 "AEW is a major player"

[@Sharkysharky2323]

Fuck it I’ll watch

[@mjmcg73]

Seniors League

[@aviduke]

Im guessing this is the organisation that offered DJ his 2mil

[@roozbehbey]

Sad to see, majority of these name are too old to be fighting.

[@farongdong]

How about the rules?

[@JohnnyJabrone]

IFL part 2

[@daman1810]

Grand Father League!!

[@KevinAndersonninesixtygroup]

Lol neat concept

[@jimmysmith9922]

So if the most dominant fighter or your favorite fighter ends up on a bad team and that team doesn't advance in the playoffs how does that get more people to watch. He's trying to compare real team sports to truly an individual sport, they all don't get in the cage at the same time...I don't understand how they don't realize it's been done in the past and failed with the IFL. If a fight league wants to be successful they must build young up and coming stars, most of their list is older fighters who are way past their prime. Good luck to them but I wouldn't invest in that.

[@Redaku418]

Just hope it’s not overpaid slowly guide it along

[@skylarlane9167]

I am very excited for a new league but I would love to see one that airs on KZbin or Netflix so everyone would have access. But also with younger and up and coming fighters that we can watch come up and make a name for themselves. Not so much the washed older fighters. I am still excited about this and don't want to be a hater but it feels like this model has been attempted in the past and hasn't worked. Fells like they will burn cash for 2 yrs and then they will be gone. Similar to what PFL has been doing, what World Series of fighting did before that, Affliction, etc.

[@itmbkillin2075]

Sounds good but huge problem. All big names are old and washed up

[@Astral_Kay]

GFL making it confusing just like the PFL 🤦🏻‍♀️ no thank you

[@alfredeneuman4947]

yes

[@Induna123]

These guys will go bankrupt before PFL does.

[@SmokingDopeFrazier]

Gonkbrain plan

[@badr0709]

Just make real promotion for fights not like pfl that just bought fighters without real promoting vision...

[@richb27]

Bro, a bunch of old heads and you think this is a good idea?

[@jaikrewl]

So... IFL with a pension plan...

[@PetrolPatrol]

Grandad Fighting League

[@chrismartinez5186]

Dude has nothing but a rich fan and a hundred old fighters lined up for a check...No date, no location, no team names, no broadcast partner..ALL BS

[@AJproductionsful]

This is about to go over like a fart in church. Everything this poor guy said just made it sound worse and worse

[@MuhammadImardBruceLee]

120, 130, 140? Just to be different?

[@Induna123]

120? Crackhead weight?

[@MuhammadImardBruceLee]

@Induna123 it's a very odd decision to have the divisions at those weights to me, but the unified rules have divisions down to atomweight (105lb). Invicta and regional promotions in the usa have womens 105lb and some asian promotions have mens 105lb. With GFL's plan, every female fight will technically be a catchweight under unified rules.

[@Camelolivegreen]

Ariel you just can help urself can you… where’s the line between responsible framing, follow up and just being shady

[@Imhim247]

This is cool. Yall gotta stop the hate, lol

[@Redeyedflights]

Ariel was glazing pfl, now he has to resort to this bs 😂😂😂

[@mindblown42069]

I’m just not convinced there are enough free agent big names. Seems like a good way to waste millions.

[@aviduke]

Or wash millions

[@Loyaltyinthisbusiness]

I remember

[@daveh9080]

Ppl relax, what’s wrong with a new league? No shit it won’t be the ufc but they might throw some interesting matches on. I’ll tune in. Legends league, where’s the harm in that?

[@Jaybee333]

Call me crazy but this thing seems like it might have legs. I’m actually optimistic about their chances of breaking through. The team aspect is particularly interesting

[@whatifgodimagineinfinity5526]

His voice indicates a lack of confidence. This isn't going to work.

[@devallanxd]

we got names *names a bunch of fossils*

[@devallanxd]

but i am interested

[@5betme]

Might be entertaining to watch aome old has beens duke it out 😂

[@meadaiv8835]

The talent is just old dudes

[@dr.evil2some847]

Give them a chance bro. Look at the roster... This has a chance to do better than Bellator and PFL... UFC is obviously king, but even they have the potential to fade with time... That said, being #2 or even just lucrative in general is a win, and looking at the names, they at least have star power.

[@j.b.595]

If they let them use TRT and make it Pride Rules I'm

[@Joey-t1j]

This is gonna fail When you don’t have a tv rights deal in place Your done A self app Will go no where

[@artyommanukyan4296]

Retirement league

[@etherealentity7675]

Ariels haters still mad. 10-7

[@user-cc5tx8dz2u]

Can’t start another organization when the other has 99% of the talent. Look at the xfl

[@ruzzzty]

Lol

[@meadaiv8835]

This is gonna fail unfortunately. PFL and one don’t even have the talent to compete with ufc. Sucks because seems like such good ideas for the fighters

[@mikemorale8440]

It’s gfl not pfl, pfl sucks so bad hopefully this will be better

[@meadaiv8835]

@@mikemorale8440right I’m saying PFL and one championship can’t even compete this has even less of a chance

[@ganfiteatro96]

Can we stop with these leagues

[@Sdot-od8jf]

This guy is terrible at communicating. Giving way too much detail in some situations and not providing the right details in other cases.