New Music Is Better Than Old Music. This Is Why!

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

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[@BringbackthePlague]

Did you see Deborah Norville from Inside Edition a few years back? Can't sing, dance or write, but after a couple hours and good old auto-tune, she sounded like every other pop star on the planet. No amount of auto-tune is gonna make anyone sound like Mike Patton, lol!!

[@cedricvandeputte3549]

Thank you for the Mozart example. Finally someone who is also aware of that piece, that made me laugh a lot and made my day.

[@robbgnarly]

I saw a college professor who has proven that the pinnacle of POP/rock music was Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts club band and ever since then the talent/musicianship and experimentation has went down. I pretty much agree

[@VeronaLivesInside]

The Punk Rock MBA hey Mr.jones is a great song!! His dancing is terrible but I totally vibe to it!

[@dannyboytru9404]

I feel like youre confusing feel with how well it was produced. To me, most pop music now has less and less feel to it. I think back then music had more feel to it.

[@starcenter323]

I remember back in my day when artists could go deaf and still not miss a note RIP Beethoven

[@jessejive117]

starcenter323 exact right kind of humor to shed a light on the stupidly these days love it

[@NealBones]

Oh you kids and your Beethoven, I miss the days of my youth where we beat sticks on rocks and grunted.

[@Harry-sf5lc]

"are you guys excited for beethoven?" "woo" "I can't hear you"

[@phillippatrick1295]

I legit laughed at that oneXD

[@croatoansounds]

But people play better now!

[@OReilly1981]

In terms of "Rock" music I really believe the producers are trying to record bands too perfect. Rock should have a human element, tempo change, dynamics and even imperfections.

[@cityfantv-everythingmancit2946]

John Reilly oasis

[@brtshmvne7480]

I agree with most of that but I definitely disagree with the tempo change. I don't want to hear inconsistent tempo when as a musician or as a listener.

[@OReilly1981]

@@brtshmvne7480 most of my music has tempo changes in it but I do it in a way that it flows together.

[@HenritheHorse]

@@brtshmvne7480 All old music has subtle tempo changes and some speed up or slow down naturally.

[@wormdoodles]

I remember trying to explain to someone why I like Joy Division because he couldn't get past all the things they did musically wrong. It's the DIY ethic of old rock music that I like and it's why I really enjoy indie and DIY stuff now vs the highly produced, flawless music that gets played on the radio. Admittedly, I'm not a musician or trained in musical theory, so it doesn't bother me the way it bothers music people.

[@deku9998]

Remember when Finn McKenty had an intro that went straight to your face?

[@Ninjamanhammer]

Back in the good old days.

[@johndavidson1455]

I wonder if he was getting demonitized for the Hatebreed sample

[@brock-182]

Not only straight to your face. Straight to your face, WITH THE TRUTH

[@gregoryking4796]

I already miss it

[@MarkusHorror]

Miss those wonderful lyrics to.

[@gasaul5759]

In the mid 2000s, I had a friend who want to start a punk band, he was the vocalist, but all his proyect's went down because of all his friends were always drinking, so he decided to replace them with a laptop (bass and drums) and also he learned to play guitarr. In local shows he played using laptop and guitar, for me that was something truly DIY, but for the "true punks" that was almost like an insult.

[@KingBlonde]

yeah, "true punks" don't know shit. hell, the underground edm/ idm scenes ie vaporwave are more punk rock than the current "punk" meta.

[@mellofan2012]

Chris farren?

[@joegrande4848]

while trying to find a knowledged an skilled bass player,your friend can continue developing his craft,playing guitar is a life long journey,not a destination,the more you learn the more i find out i dont know so for someone to say they master guitar thats where growth in the craft of great musicianship seases

[@ryanl5460]

R A T C H E T wut dude

[@ryanl5460]

Turned this crud off once I was presented with that sweet online rpg ad

[@Dethrider6]

I wish I was born in the 1540s, when music was good.

[@anubisanarchy5710]

Did you know that Greensleeves was about King Henry eating the ass of Anne Boylyn since she could no longer give "head"?

[@frustusCroKi]

Maaan now way 10 000 BC music was the Shit.

[@BrandonGiordano]

If you really want to get to the roots of REAL music you gotta take it to 100 B.C.

[@herogamer555]

Make the Lute Great Again.

[@socalsreelbasster4476]

Oh hell no not Pump the Jam How dare you good sir How dare you

[@6sKi6z6]

Everyone gets to high school and college, finds out what bands they like, then just continue to listen to that until they die.

[@jesseslocum3545]

I'm 32 and a few of the bands i consider my favorites are ones I've discovered in the past couple years

[@jayzonedc6474]

Only if you're a normie.

[@valis-zj8bc]

I'm 47 and i love some of the new shit like knocked loose, vein and code orange. No way could i listen to the same songs for the rest of my life, I'm constantly finding new shit i like.

[@mdavid32]

Jesse Slocum exactly. I’d even add, some of my current favorites are even from genres I’d have never listen to in high school or college, or genres that didn’t even exist then like dubstep or witch house.

[@namegoeshereorhere5020]

Pretty much, at least the kind of people you constantly see commenting on KZbin videos about how music sucks now compared to whenever they were 18. I'm 53 and find new music pretty much daily that I love. It's definitely never been better than it is now because not only can you still listen to the old stuff of your youth there's tons of new bands out there, many playing music that sounds just like what you liked when you were 18.

[@aaronoutloud2587]

I'm just sick of rap/hip hop artists all using the exact same high hat beats.

[@adeptdamage3669]

@@rorz999 It's pretty much on its last legs now.

[@johnindigo5477]

The high hat beats are half of it. There's also how an artist uses vocals and different production. Hip hop is one of the most experimental genres in popular music since new wave.

[@MarysAbyss]

I wonder how many of them know about the amen break or where it came from

[@sonikku956]

@@MarysAbyss The amen break is seen more in jungle and drum & bass music.

[@sonikku956]

That's because the artists using that sound aren't making standard hip hop, they're making trap, Memphis rap revival/phonk, trap metal/metal trap, and cloud rap. They all use the TR-808, but they use it differently, especially the latter three. House and techno music has primarily used the same drum machines/digital recreations of drum machines for well over 3 decades, like the TR-909, the TR-808 (for some), and the TR-707.

[@tylerhansen8278]

Call me a hipster but I can appreciate the gritty production static of older songs

[@OReilly1981]

They have character.

[@ChristianBurrola]

They sounded much more natural and realistic which is a better measure of objective quality than any digital alteration.

[@UDLXXL]

Yeah... clean production doesn't mean "good" production. Especially on punk & metal, they're not meant to sound clean & pretty imo... I hate how this dude says its "objectively better". Sounds like elitist talk to me

[@arkennoren0]

I think a lot of people are led to lofi productions (especially with the wave of lofi hip-hop) because of the showing (or "embracing," at least) of imperfections in recording. John and MrRobot are right; it gives character.

[@davidkonevky7372]

Idk but the gritty and old sound makes a song sound better, I will never know why, but I would love new musicians to experiment with it

[@Faerie_Kim]

good shit and bad shit in all eras. I agree. I like music from the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s and 10s. There's also some really bad music from all of those decades too.

[@masterknife8423]

I'm a huge fan of 90s and 00s music but there is a TON of shit from those two decades

[@raveyard4927]

The problem is, there really aren't any good songs coming out now, at least none that are as popular as the good songs of the last decade.

[@masterknife8423]

@@raveyard4927 I agree the UKtop40 is fucking unbearable these days

[@RannonSi]

@@raveyard4927 I think that's a problem of quantity. As far as I know there's never been a single now (eh, well. at least not in the last couple of centuries) that had better music than the best of the decade before it.

[@kevinhasch3097]

Yes but what good is anything that's been released since 1999

[@fdvboldhjbfv8791]

Some valid points however the only conclusions met here is that newer recordings are better than older recordings. This can’t be generalised to music is better now than before.

[@theseth455]

G Duncan yeah that’s what I’m saying. This is the third video I think I’ve watched and gave a chance by this guy, and well... I’m not feeling this channel.

[@deanmartin7924]

He is asshole his points are assholes also. Generally assholes everywhere!!!!!

[@kylelyons6088]

@@deanmartin7924 I dont like what he said, so he's an asshole! Get a life

[@HennyESP]

@Shane Silveira boomer

[@line6peavey]

This needs to be top comment.

[@willmickel71]

There’s no doubt that recording technology is far better today. Song writing is an entirely different matter.

[@ProgJester]

^this

[@anthonystark5412]

I can think of no sensible counter-argument to your statement.

[@BenBenRanger]

@@anthonystark5412 that's because his statement doesn't actually say anything or make any points. 'recording is different than songwriting' is what he said. how can you respond to something that means so little?

[@anthonystark5412]

@@BenBenRanger Are you being deliberately obtuse, or did you not bother to process Mike Kelley's comment? His opening sentence quite literally makes the point that "recording technology is far better today". Based on the context supplied by said opening sentence, one can rather easily infer that he holds the opinion that contemporary songwriting is inferior in quality.

[@BenBenRanger]

@@anthonystark5412 an implication is not an argument, and therefore doesn't provoke strong counter-arguments.

[@amocmofficial]

Computers didn’t ruin music, people with no talent did. And their tone deaf fans are the one’s making it worse.

[@jesseslocum3545]

Two more points: Sax solos are badass, especially the way Rivers of Nihil does them and Scatman John was fuckin awesome

[@raveyard4927]

This is one of the comments that Finn should have given a heart to.

[@XxgoodbudsxX]

The truest comment in the section

[@shelli6387]

Scatman John was awesome- legit Jazz artist kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5zVf2hoiqZrgMU

[@EpicSlayer360]

Came here to say exactly that. Rivers of Nile nailed those sax solos

[@gavenc673]

Shrezzers does sax solos too

[@p.d.l7023]

The music that you were into when you were 15 will always be special music to you. It's science and psychology.

[@alsacrime4806]

Paul Long Adam Neely.

[@famouslastwords0791HR]

Some of it but a lot if it i findi grew out of. Some things i thought were incredible back then were okay but i wasn't ready too digest truly incredible music yet. My brain just couldn't process it the way it does now. But i still love Motley Crue.

[@famouslastwords0791HR]

@@ASM881 I LOVE Nirvana. I have Kurt's name tattooed on my arm. So i leave you with this-Just because you're paranoid/ Don't mean they're not after you.

[@GoodfellasX21]

Yeah but now you have to listen to songs on the radio talking about nutting on a girls face as girls sing along lol. It's all just sexualizing teen girls if you listen to rap/radio these days.

[@noelleelizabeth9991]

Its definitely 13 for me, I will defend Avril Lavigne’s first record until the end of time, but a lot of the stuff I listened to at 15...oof cringe city.

[@MetalTrenches]

How dare you speak ill of The Counting Crows lol 😂

[@mennovanmeegen4429]

Right? I love those guys lol

[@CheemsCheemsCheems]

Don’t talk shit about Counting Crows!

[@DIS-M3M-B3R]

Yo the counting crows are the shit! I cant bbn believe someone can just get away with disrespecting them.

[@Szaam]

MAN I WISH I WAS BEAUTIFUL

[@andrewlee5193]

for real!

[@solearesoul]

I do agree that production quality has increased, but I don’t think overall subject content has gotten better.

[@ChristianBurrola]

I'd say production quality has decreased. Name one album from the 2000s that sounds more natural or realistic than Tom Jobim's Wave or Miles Davis's Kind of Blue.

[@EricBrownBey]

@@ChristianBurrola I agree. Honestly the sound quality today is way worse then it was if you're comparing it to a HiFi recording from the fifties, sixties and seventies.

[@jocksfinn8370]

It's about producing buddy

[@luvvmolly866]

Hair metal horrible lyrics

[@andymtb5714]

@@ChristianBurrola yes exactly right!

[@HeavyMetalMonkey]

Finn: What happened to saxophone solos? Rivers of Nihil: Hold my saxophone

[@asciicatface]

I believe there's one on a recent Intervals album, Plini album, and a The Faceless one too if Im not mistaken?

[@iletthedevilin828]

@@asciicatface I think ghost and btbam as well had one

[@Max_Payn3]

James Branstetter TESSERACT had a good one too

[@iletthedevilin828]

So basically more bands are bringing it back but imo rivers or nihil does it the best

[@asciicatface]

@@iletthedevilin828 and then Ne Obliviscaris just _obliterates_ us with violin solos

[@ScreenSpidah]

Old band good! New band bad!

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Kids these days bad

[@ZachClay]

Old band good! New album bad!

[@josuegarduno7154]

Music in a nutshell

[@mdavid32]

It’s not even “old songs had more meaning.” It’s old songs had more meaning... to me. It’s not so much about the content of the lyrics, but the personal life experiences people had when listening to music when they were young. Nostalgia will make certain things hold more weight in our hearts because of what it means to us, and for some illogical reason, we want people to acknowledge that.

[@KawiMusician]

Hit the nail on the motherfuckin head man..I agree 100%

[@KarryKarryKarry]

That sounds just about right. People get stuck in the past more often than not. I heard that men will get the same haircut when they’re 50 as they did when they felt the best about themselves when they were young. Explains why I meet so many old dudes with really long hair in the back when I go to shows.

[@JohnnySHOTGUN-08]

Truer words have never been said

[@martyjehovah]

This is an excellent observation, I never had a real solid reason for why people grow more out of touch with newer music the older they get, but this explains it perfectly. The music a person loves was playing on their first date in their first car (an intentionally exaggerated example), while the "shitty music nowadays" was playing on their way to work last Wednesday when their phone charger broke so they had to listen to the radio.

[@philswifthere3486]

David M music today is shit. Wasn’t born in the 80s and its all i listen to so no nostalgia here

[@godamnsam6021]

Old music is still god bruh

[@anti-dreamstansunited3391]

Agree

[@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY]

I agree and I gave this video a thumbs down.

[@dvir12345]

69 likes

[@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY]

@@dvir12345 which is 1/100 the number of likes this video has right now.

[@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY]

@@dvir12345 70 now 😉

[@Julianis0nlin3]

Finn forgot to mention the part where it's bad because they can't understand what they are saying.

[@doublecup616]

Julian Mendez Deathcoredeathcoredeathcoredeathcoredeathcoedeathcoredeathcoredeathcore

[@connercampbell9086]

I've heard that complaint from countless oldsters about every type of genre they don't like. My favorite was some old lady saying that she couldn't stand her son listening to PEARL JAM because it was all screaming and she couldn't understand the lyrics.

[@DCul]

@@connercampbell9086 At that point it's just someone not making any effort to give something a chance. I've seen this a million times over.

[@malmstring]

I really can't hear the mumbling vocals in the part where the producer is auto-tuning. Is that recording a guy singing a song in the shower and making up the words?

[@johnindigo5477]

Cuase everyone knew what Kurt Cobain was saying when they heard teen spirit the first time?

[@DavidDantePhoenix]

Those examples of over-produced drums is literally why I have a hard time with most metal recordings of today. I can love the band and the songs, but when I feel like the drummer isn't a human anymore I just lose interest. Humanity in music still a good thing? I hope so.

[@KM-je6bf]

Yes. They take all the reverb out of it and it sounds like someone tapping on a textbook

[@Staz1313]

Then you have the people who wanna learn how to play said songs on drums. They sit there for who knows how long trying to match what they hear on the song, possibly physically hurting themselves trying to match it. Then end up giving up on there dreams completely cuz they are not good enough to play there favorite songs, so they take it as not being good enough entirely. Kinda depressing esp when they had no clue it was edited that heavily in post.

[@AB-vl6et]

what is "humanity" for you? Just the ability to make mistakes? Not the thing I would be proud of. A drummer can just simplify his part a bit, make over 9000 takes and record it so tight that it would sound like a computer. On the other hand, you can randomize and "humanize" notes and timings and velocities and make computer sound almost like a human being. Do you know why not so many bands do that, at least at the level you'd like to hear? Because the audience wants (and demands!) a more technical, more tight and compressed and "in your face" sound. Blame the audience, not the computers

[@ackerkartoffel8627]

It's just bad production, in a good production you wouldn't notice that the drummer is not human

[@mathias841]

Couldn't agree more. When I listen to Led Zeppelin - that's not my favorite band. But I'm always stunned by the organic quality of it. No click, you know.

[@KiwiDimi]

It depends of the style... For hard rock/heavy metal/thrash metal I love the old prod/sound of the 70's/80's. Same for synthpop in the 80's and hip hop/pop/dance in the 90's. It's all about the charm of the prod/sound. For death/black/hardcore/punk new prod are better.

[@srs7593]

I feel like modern music is less focused on being compelling than it is on being unobtrusive, and produced "professionally."

[@srs7593]

As though strict standards are being adhered to, rather than routinely challenged, and this stems from approaching the possibility of measurable perfection, as well as an oversaturation of producers.

[@OngoingDiscovery]

What genre are you talking about though?

[@srs7593]

@@OngoingDiscovery Almost anything that isn't DIY.

[@bw2937]

@IsNotAPhase You clearly don't know shit about autotune then. It really doesn't make 'anyone a singer' like they say. It only fixes one factor (pitch) and only so well.

[@meepsonic]

I'd like listening to new music until I die.

[@provy011]

A couple years ago Keith Buckley was asked about being in the old band on warped tour and what he thought of all the new bands. His answer was roughly along the lines of "most of the new stuff is not really for me but it's not supposed to be. I'm an almost 40 year old man. This music is supposed to be for the kids and I love that they're out here doing it and we can still be out here doing it with them."

[@DBL304]

Gregory Pronovost Keith and the ETID boys always seem to get it right

[@stephenlatham7702]

I wish I was born in 35 BCE, when the music was TRULY good

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

LIKE IF U REMEMBER BEOWULF

[@ZachClay]

Hrothgar really knew how to open up a pit

[@baranobama5375]

Smashes rocks on skulls: yeah that beat is nice

[@andrewthorpe5569]

Harpcore

[@christianbrewerton710]

I think computers and technology have given crappy musicians a way to sound less crappy and an easier way to reach audiences to gain traction hence some people get the illusion that music sucks today. There are a LOT more crappy artists now than there were in the 80s and 90s because they can get out there easier. I do however believe that there are musicians in every genre that are just as talented as some of those old time legends if not MORE talented.

[@Hegder]

100 per cent.

[@elenamatei5553]

literally exactly what I think.

[@quintonb9626]

agreed

[@datguy9408]

Basically the entire trap genre.

[@camiblack1]

Nah, we just remember the great ones, and kinda forget the Dog's Eye Views or the strange Eurodance obsession we had between 1990 and 1997.

[@AntMelz]

Theres a reason old amazing albums keep getting remastered and I’d rather listen to that remastered album.

[@seanlishman3247]

The biggest problem is that if things are always fixed by computers, most artists can't reproduce the same edited sound

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

Sean Lishman thats what a skilled producer is for. Finding the middle ground. The video literally included a clip of a producer discussing that EXACT issue.

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

And the “biggest problem” is actually that streaming platforms and their algorithm-based nature rewards novelty and quantity over quality, discouraging artists from fine tuning projects and crafting challenging art. It also creates a massive incentive to release the absolute *shortest* product possible, so listeners can stream it a maximum number of times. The result is a paradox wherein musicians are encouraged to release 40 track ‘albums’ full of 90 second songs. (See Chris Brown and Tierra Whack). Ironically, this also means the breakdown, which birthed hiphop, is about to go extinct in a world ruled by the genre. Basically, the problem is - The future looks like Minor Threat’s ‘Greatest Hits’ album on the high end and Demolition Man’s joke about advertising jingles as ‘classic rock’ on the low.

[@keithremedy]

Sean Lishman this is why Live performances are everything. There is many artist like Mayer for instance Stevie Ray Vaughn jazz and blues players that are better live. There’s a lot of punk bands I’ve seen over the years that are good live too. You ever seen some of the big stars like Drake or someone like that live? They suck and just mouth words over the song playing

[@tawdryhepburn4686]

Keith Remedy DRAKE played my university shortly before his first album dropped. He was... not good. It’s very hard to be a dynamic live act doing hip-hop/rap. Especially outside of a club setting.

[@AB-vl6et]

Kirk hammet can't do it neither, and never could (even before computers), so fcking what?

[@wheresthemiata6625]

Bruh "kid wearing classic rock shirts while in the 10th grade" that hit me hard

[@gavenc673]

I am that kid

[@keithremedy]

Me along with every street punk and oi band you can think of. I’m still that guy haha at 29

[@Zach-ec5pw]

Back in high school I loved to call kids out who pulled that shit and be like “hey can you name me 3 songs from dark side of the moon?” And when they said “Wish you were here, Another brick in the wall pt. 2 and comfortably numb” I’d kick them in the jaw.

[@maxx1014]

@@Zach-ec5pw I did that too. But those were mainly girls wearing Nirvana or Guns n Roses shirts lmao

[@TheEyesThrone]

Shouldn't even be a roast I don't get that

[@robertprietotucsonknowledg6450]

How dare you “pump up the jams” is a classic!

[@raveyard4927]

When he insulted the scatman, I got legit angry.

[@GothamClive]

Don't pump up the jams, kick them out.

[@travis8106]

scatman defense force united

[@HarhanDerMann]

New music isn't necessarily better, old music isn't necessarily better. Just enjoy good music from all time periods.

[@HenryColeHawkins]

Couldn't agree more.

[@maccagrabme]

Old music is far better in my opinion. Not heard anything worth buying in decades.

[@HarhanDerMann]

@@maccagrabme Depending on what kind of music you like there is tonnes of good music out there. It's just not the pop music anymore

[@alfieboyes8927]

It's really just correlation, there was music I love and enjoy back, there is less and less now. But I think its impossible to save it really, we're on a trajectory where if somebody releases something actually and unlike something on the radio, it's just not gonna get played and the average person who doesn't care about music isn't going to like it.

[@danielpatternson6149]

Truth be told, I don’t actually care about peoples’ preferences in music. What mainly bothers me is when classic music lovers either put down other people for liking modern music, or claim they were “born in the wrong generation.” Like, how the hell does that affect the quality of the music in any way?

[@satesup4353]

The quality of a music is not determined by time, but by concepts... .

[@isaacromanovv7607]

Well said

[@DouggieDaDucker]

The problem is the over saturation of sounding the same like rap now a days has this trap rhythm as a base. And metal, hardcore consisting of the djent sound. 2nd is the lack of recognition cause people say stuff like this as well because a record company not diversifying their palette and introducing them to artist that are out of the norm.

[@tristonechols1997]

No one: Every old head: “AlL ThE sONgs aRE AbOuT pARtying! MuSIC uSEd tO MeAN SOmEtHiNG!” Me: Because Motley Crüe’s Girls Girls Girls means sooo much.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

I know, right?

[@5naf6]

Girls Girls Girls is a dick album tho & it aged really well

[@andynewen]

Lol yep so deep I wonder what the true meaning behind it is.

[@Yours2Keep138]

You have to look at the subtext that the wordsmiths of hair metal packed that song with to understand it's true meaning. Lines like "Crazy Horse, Paris, France Forget the names, remember romance" could have seemlessly fit into any song off of Bob Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited!

[@dobber43]

Like in the video there have always been those songs but in rap at least it didnt feel shoved down your throat until now where no matter where you are online you see it

[@matejmurin8919]

Someone: "Computers ruined music." Me: "Laughs in Prodigy."

[@jowjjoeksidnwosjxnalwosmbl5476]

❤️

[@randomguy4781]

funny how people say that when one of the biggest bands Pink Floyd was using synthesizers in the 70s.

[@neomelmalubay1680]

@IsNotAPhase stay crying

[@skippy8696]

Music for the jilted generation is one of the sickest albums ever...change my mind.

[@Basu117]

Two albums that hold up insanely well are Motley Crue's Dr. Feelgood and Skid Row's Slave To The Grind. It's insane that both are over 30 years old.

[@5naf6]

Girls, Girls, Girls from that era is also solid today

[@lubenretrolletarios7901]

yeah, because queen or pink floyd or the smiths or rush or thin lizzy dont hold up either. lol. if we start to write the great albums of 60s-90s, our keyboards will be destroyed.

[@katiemcweeny8196]

How do hair metal bands hold up well? That fad was a short time period in the 80s...no hair metal holds up well today lol

[@Basu117]

@@katiemcweeny8196 Talking about recording quality here of course. And Skid Row was never "hair metal" outside of the few ballads, they have always been heavy metal.

[@gcord21]

For me, To Fast For Love is my favorite Motley Crue album.

[@ssgbrooks1]

I agree that the amount of cherry picking is in HIGH GEAR. Quick example: why do you always here the same stuff on oldies radio if the music was so great?

[@Staz1313]

Rock/metal station I typically listen to play a mix between newer and older, but on a typical 8 hour work day I do not hear the same song twice, maybe the same songs the next day. But not twice in one day. Whenever I put it on one of those current pop music ones tho I hear the same songs every two to three hours or so. Which I like both to an extent but there is only so many times I can listen to "bad guy" in one day before I get annoyed with it. Even tho I like that song every now and then lol.

[@charlesnwarren]

Turn your cap around sideways and start talking niggah-whigga shit.

[@mrrayner8457]

@@Staz1313 I think the reason that works is there's a far larger pool to pull music from. For example if you have, say, a station that's focused on modern pop vs one that pulls from everything from the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s, one has a far wider library to pull from. It's easier to listen to a "classic hits" station than a station with a strict playlist for music that needs marketing now for that reason in my opinion.

[@Default78334]

@@deepseaderro Meanwhile, in 1960, Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini was a Billboard number 1 hit. In 1958 you had The Chipmunk Song (Christmas Don't Be Late) do the same thing. I'm not sure I want to go back to those days.

[@richardgerlach515]

I miss back when music was lyres and epic poems about killing dragons.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsm4708]

Richard Gerlach Maybe give power Metal a try 😁

[@richardgerlach515]

Your Friendly Neighborhood Smark that’s poser bullshit.

[@andrewkoines6389]

The songs that I like from the 60's through the 90's sound great to me. Listening to them now, I can't think of one song that I would say, "wow, the production on this song sucks. In fact, it's so bad that I can't listen to it anymore."

[@Andre-tu3km]

word

[@pamwilliams9458]

Exactly thank you👍👍

[@oow6830]

@@Andre-tu3km yessss

[@AustinKay]

It makes me question the guy who feels that way haha

[@agneyajoshi8012]

exactly. one of my favourite songs is space oddity by david bowie, the recording quality is trash yet there is not a thing wrong with that

[@mr.punkie5872]

Also what’s wrong with sax solos? I personally love them

[@DIS-M3M-B3R]

I'm glad someone said this with your type of platform. There are pros and cons to every era of music and like you said I love all the genre bending that's been happening lately. I'm way too musically diverse to just lis to the same stuff. Thanks dude you're doing a public service!🤘🤘🤘

[@fe3bal]

Do a whole video with that Harms Way neck.

[@ZombieHeights]

fe3bal not harms way if he doesnt pop his shirt off 3 mins into the vid

[@Falcnuts]

Inb4 Harms Whey

[@chaselingaas]

Hahahahahah

[@sparkleismyfavword3749]

Pink floyd doesn’t sound bad at all

[@salesskywalker3716]

They are amazing

[@bryndoe9495]

Were you born 9 months ago or something

[@dalenewberry4610]

One thing I first thought when I saw this video was up is a quote from the relatively new slipknot song “All Out Life” where it says “old does not mean dead/new does not mean best” and that rings true for me. I love old music (even before my time), but new stuff is just as valid. What matters to me is songwriting (in the context in which it was intended).

[@cp-mo4lc]

I also went to youtube settings and changed the playback from 1080HD mode to 144 mode so I could watch this like I used to in the early 2000's.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

💪🏼

[@wertin200]

Legend

[@TheRetroLab]

You seem to be confusing the quality of low budget music production with the quality of song writing in general; if you look at the most popular songs from each year the standard of song writing has definitely declined. There was a study I read about which investigated what you need to do to a song to make it sound more modern and their conclusion was basically to make it louder and simpler (removing harmonies etc). The quality of recording you are able to achieve today with a very low budget is way higher than what you could achieve say 10-20 years ago before computer-based home recording became popular/affordable, before that your only option for budget home recording from around 1980 onwards was basically one microphone in the middle of a room, which is how they would record pop music in the 50s and in the 50s it just wasn't possible to record music at home. So yes, modern technology has allowed more people to produce better sounding/mixed music at a much lower price than ever before but that does not mean that the song writing is better.

[@shaquanjamison8161]

@jvalex18 It did.

[@Lightning-gg5iu]

Shaquan Jamison Bro there’s so much great music being released today

[@shaquanjamison8161]

@@Lightning-gg5iu There is some, but not much.

[@Lightning-gg5iu]

Shaquan Jamison No there is a lot of good music today. Just this year there has been some awesome albums released

[@pluviophile1988]

OMG exactly!!! This is so stupid

[@MrFloyd-te1nh]

Aja (1977) - Steely Dan The Dark Side Of The Moon (1973) - Pink Floyd Days Of Future Passed (1967) - The Moody Blues I challenge you to find 3 modern records better than the ones listed above.

[@ChristianBurrola]

This guy's thinking on audio quality is completely backwards. He judges quality on lack of roughness which is the opposite of how quality should be measured which is how realistic and natural a recording sounds. In terms of audio quality nothing from the past 20 years has surpassed Tom Jobim's Wave (1967), Miles Davis's Kind of Blue (1959), and Burt Bacharach's Casino Royale (1967).

[@CelestialCimmerian]

Zieg dich (2019)- Rammstein Here Comes Revenge (2017)- Mettalica Deutschland (2019)- Rammstein Maybe they aren't better but in my opinion they are some of the only modern songs I listen to

[@hollenfeuer1]

@@CelestialCimmerian Deutschland Is amazing.

[@nikolastllefsen8743]

(2020)The New Abnormal- The Strokes (2016)Kids See Ghosts- Kids See Ghosts (2015)To Pimp A Butterfly- Kendrick Lamar

[@Cyborg_Lenin]

@@CelestialCimmerian Rammstein new album was just incredible. Id say the best one they got. . . Deutschland, radio, Auslander, sex. . . i cant remember anything else

[@gregathol]

I genuinely like a lot "bad recordings" or "lo-fi" shit. In some genres, its an aesthetic, like black metal. I will admit though, that listening to a ton of glistening beautiful sounding mixes for a while and then going back to older or intentionally lofi stuff is quite a shock. I just dont believe that inherently detracts from its artistic value.

[@noname-ng6sj]

That's a fine thing to say, but that's not what Finn was saying. He was just saying that it doesn't automatically make the older artists better.

[@aldxbaran]

*plays a bunch of classic hits* "hah see nobody likes that trash" The answer is BOTH old and modern music CAN BE good.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Ha- well thats kinda what i said

[@hannahelisabeth9323]

"What happened to saxophone solos?" They ended up on Ghost and Japanese Breakfast records.

[@HardLiquor45]

Hannah Elisabeth and even nine inch nails and m83

[@TheSuburban15]

The Revivalists - Wish I Knew You

[@matthewroberts3125]

or Rivers of Nihil

[@ChristianBurrola]

You proved exactly why the 80s and 90s sounded better than the 00s and 2010s. Every older recording had space and groove and movement than every newer recording felt stiff and stale. Older rap was much funkier than the newer rap. Natural sounding recordings will always objectively sound better than unnatural sounding recordings. This is why many modern jazz and funk albums still sound awesome today and music from most other genres these days sound like crap.

[@Anthony-cc8bx]

Yea with digital manipulation it sounds clinical. Leave the sound analog is always more natural than breaking it apart with softwares.

[@Mike-tw2mw]

You have a point but this is subjective asf

[@ZooDSSfirst]

Like take any Led Zeppelin album, it will sound amazing! Any! Beattles were recording veeeery well! I rarely can find any old recording that doesn't sound good, including the concert live recordings.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

“The Baroque Age was throwing down! Nobody plays them like that anymore.”

[@justgeekian1703]

The Forest Rebel Dude! Vivaldi and Bach is the shit!

[@disgruntledcat]

ugh, the baroque age is so derivative. everyone knows that gregorian chant is the pinnacle of music.

[@justgeekian1703]

Carlos Jimenez nah, the true music is lyre music from the ancient greeks

[@christopherevans3715]

First of all, how DARE you include Counting Crows as an example of a crappy 90s band Other than that I agree with this video 1000%

[@badshrekonline2198]

Yes lad

[@12gaugeanulcannon76]

Modern music just sounds uninspired or maybe I’m just to old

[@ninjaskeleton6140]

When people say old music is better than contemporary music, they’re not talking about the production value.

[@MilitantMe]

This video speaks volumes of truth man. The funny thing is, people were saying the same "today's music sucks" thing 20 years ago. I remember in the 90s, one of my buddies telling me that sex pistols and the Ramones were the only "real punk bands"

[@evilisabelle]

'Computers ruined music!' ... Trent Reznor begs to differ...

[@bryanshore2257]

I kinda agree Trent reznor is a fucking god tho.

[@evilisabelle]

@@bryanshore2257 Oh definitely!

[@hurricane_valence]

Marilyn Manson

[@evilisabelle]

@@hurricane_valence Was discovered by Trent, yes.

[@JackWalker12993]

Trent Reznor is nearly an EGOT, nobody should ever say such a boomer statement! His film scores like The Social Network & Gone Girl are works of genius, can't wait for Mank.

[@Fran.Cisco.DK21]

Old music, better songs, new music, better sound. Thats about it.

[@yowodup6094]

"Better sound" is not the case. A good song is a good song, has character about it.

[@pamwilliams9458]

Exactly I will take music in the 90s and and 80s any day then music of today

[@bw2937]

Every has opinions get over it

[@petersharplin4118]

"Do you remember when lyrics actually meant something?" Lol no

[@Dreadlock1227]

I hate when people generalize all modern pop music as just being “talentless garbage” or whatever you wanna call it. I don’t listen to much pop, but you can’t tel me that Ariana Grande, Beyoncé, John Legend, etc. aren’t incredibly talented, skilled singers. Anyone who tries to deny that loses any musical credibility in my opinion

[@cityfantv-everythingmancit2946]

Yea Yea yeah but they overuse there voice and are bland. For e,g Liam Gallagher doesn’t always hits the notes but he has heaps of passion and a unique voice.

[@JaretVincent]

Of course they’re talented but the vocal ability isn’t what makes the songs bad. It’s the writing, lack of actual instruments, the same beat used in every song. For example, Brendon Urie (imo) has the most powerful voice in mainstream music right now, but the current songwriting from him is terrible compared to P!atd’s older music.

[@AB-vl6et]

losing my musical credibility, according to a random internet noobie's opinion - omg I will not survive it, such a tragedy :(

[@isaacromanovv7607]

@@AB-vl6et ikr?? Lmao

[@mikejake3136]

@@AB-vl6et LOL the guy thinks his opinion is that significant

[@King88_8]

Production is better, but songs lack substance. Period

[@andreisidro6544]

As an engineer, here's my 2 cents about vocal tuning and drum sampling. People like good performances but they also love to see the effort it takes to give good perfomances. Auto-tune and drum sampling are great at polishing the mistakes out of a performance, but they can also make them feel effortless. Join that to the fact that every engineer (even the beginners) nowadays can do basic tuning and replacing and also to the natural lack of confidence and doubts players have when they're recording and you can see how easy it is to end up with everything overproduced. And that's the real problem, the sonic quality of nowadays' songs is (on average) way higher, but also feel every new producer is slightly less experienced and the computer is also taking a way bigger part on the recording process and that leads to newer bands having a less diverse sound than they used to. I feel like every decade or so we repeat some of the mistakes done a few decades before and to me this one is kinda echoing the 80's but instead of linndrum snares and gated reverbs everyone is using slate snares and reverbs. Point being, the pendulum is swinging hard to the overproduced side of things right now, but it will eventually swing back one way or another. Hell, in the past 6 years or so, there has been a huge lofi craze in the indie scene where everyone records with 8 track tascam reel to reels, all playing live with minimal mics on the instruments. Bands like Parquet Courts, Ty Segall, King Gizzard, Mac Demarco... I don't know... it's just trends I guess...

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Well said

[@abbeybelanger8118]

People: Pops the best Others: No way 200s music for life! Even more random ppl: Nah man rock n roll for life Me: *listens to 1700s Sea Shanties with the boys

[@wolfie3748]

a person of culture 😌

[@vonicrimson3619]

Same

[@extrememetalunderground]

cringe comment

[@alrecks619]

i wish i was born in palaeozoic era, when people basically screamed and pounded the shit out of it... oh wait, that's just grindcore without instrument

[@DrewPSachs]

I love all of your casual roasts in these videos. "Like the kid who wears classic rock shirts to school even though he's in 10th grade" lmao

[@DrewPSachs]

@Frank Sennholz it's a joke, don't be such a pussy

[@Reno_Slim]

He said "wears...shirts", not "listens to". Many of those wearing the shirts have no idea what the bands on their shirts sound like.

[@DrewPSachs]

@Frank Sennholz that's the spirit!

[@sumdesperatemusician]

Lol You're such a groupie

[@trishbhatia0]

That's me

[@rip3401]

I love how you used knocked loose as a good recording. Knocked loose is great

[@xRhino95x]

Knocked Loose fucking rules.

[@FairyDancingGirl]

I think what you just said is exactly why people think it used to be better everything is so perfect and polished; and often I want to hear the humanity and the imperfections.

[@bw2937]

But that's still only your definition of what 'good' or 'bad' music needs to fit into. Hell, I'll bet people thought electric guitars were the devil when they first became widely used. Things evolve.

[@atlasfontaine]

Notification Squad unite! Thanks for uploading! Love your stuff! I now have something to look forward to watching after work today! :D. Side note, would love to see you cover the industrial rock/metal scene at some point like how you did with nu-metal. (Not necessary a “what killed” video, but about how there were a whole lot of bands trying to be NIN in the 90’s etc.)

[@nin74]

The fact is that dynamic range have been killed off for the past 30 years. The loudness war have made most new album sound like crap.

[@xGIJewx]

nin74 Loudness war died like five years ago grandpa

[@AngelusDoyle]

Thanks boomer

[@issaacxxx6202]

'Born in the wrong' generation kids: "Guys! Look! I listen to pink floyd amd queen! I listen to pink floyd and queen! Aren't you impressed?? I said i listened to pink floyd AND queen!" Edit: Oh, cool. Likes.

[@rjrosenbsum4335]

Man I love pink Floyd. Dark side of the moon is the most abused logo in pop culture though.

[@lubenretrolletarios7901]

and van der graaf generator too and ac dc.

[@lewis5384]

As somebody who was actually born in the (Read:The not 'le') wrong generation, these kids really piss me off

[@lubenretrolletarios7901]

Hawkwind and rory Gallagher too.

[@lubenretrolletarios7901]

Camel and Jethro Tull too.

[@fieldysgrl98]

Music is way better back then. The music of today cant hold a candle to music of the past.

[@MrMysterious420]

I love it when people are like "Hip hop used to have a message, now it's just about partying and sex." Hip hop STARTED at parties and there is no shortage of braggadocios hip hop from acts like Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five or The Cold Crush Brothers. These days hip hop is so diverse, to say that it's ALL about partying and sex is absurd.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Exactly

[@nejayandnick454]

MrMysterious they were bragging about who’s the best mc more than just jewelry and hip hop started at parties yes partys yes but that was before the concept of an mc came along

[@nejayandnick454]

Jeg Hunckel oh that’s good shit man

[@noname-ng6sj]

Not to mention, a lot of those people say "you have to be able to freestyle to be a real rapper"... Well, "freestyle", the actual original meaning of the word was "free of style", because you threw away stile in favour of talking about how great you are. A lot of people need to know their roots.

[@dannyfoss1401]

so for me some bands who had that low budget sound in the 90s like Nirvanas first album i like that. To me it just feels more raw and real. like you feel all the intense emotion. Just my opinion. i do get what your saying tho

[@musiccer7446]

If anyone here knows Pink Floyd, Metallica, the eagles or Bob Marley they know why I prefer old music. Just for you to know, I play guitar so my music taste is different anyway

[@HennyESP]

boomer

[@pratimangautam6541]

@@HennyESP ignorant zoomer. In 70s artists were almost free with experimentation and artsy Ps: I'm a zoomer too

[@johnlemon8689]

If anyone here knows pink Floyd who doesn’t know Pink Floyd

[@musiccer7446]

John Lemon many people sadly

[@farrelabrar6482]

Pratiman Gautam there’s still music that is still free experimentating with music, such as meshuggah getting crazy with the chug and created djent. And microtonal lofi, that’s some hard thing you know

[@93truewill]

I’m getting to the point where I feel like everything was better in the past but I’m skeptical that my bias might be acting out.

[@0ddMan0ut]

Just found this one. I appreciate your respect for all music. It's really a resolution I have made this year to not shit on artists or people that like those artists. It's nice to see.

[@danielpatternson6149]

Couldn’t agree more.

[@manimal2002]

I love your videos Finn - but here’s where I’d take a different approach regarding this topic: It all depends on how do you define the definition of “better” and this largely lies in the eye of the beholder. > Better production: Is Louder, crisper, more compressed, tighter better? Psychoacousticaly we are probably conditioned to think so, but perception is a bitch at judging especially short term vs long term listening. Part of the argument lies on the fact that modern music is, objectively, less “human”. Yes, computers can be used as tools that can either enhance or destroy a performance. However, the tendency (according to research), suggests the latter. > Better performance: That one is very difficult to judge. I would tend to agree that the average modern musician is probably more technically proficient. However, I would also argue that the average musician is definitely less able to push and pull in a live situation, one of the foundational pillars of this music (rock/metal). Although many would have as believe that energy would come from better production, I believe that this is not the case. As demonstrated by Rick Beato, quantization kills the vibe, and removes the spine of aggressive music. > Better songwriting: Similarly, is a song “better” because it has more intricately arranged parts? Or is it better because it flows naturally that you want to smash your head in the wall? Kristian Kohle had a very good point about this when he discussed how bands write music today vs in the past in the differences between old and modern production. At the end of the day, songwriting is influenced by our environment, past and present. And today, I could argue that a lot of it is focused on attention grabbing. I’d like to close this long comment by stressing one important question which I think “divides” a lot of extreme music listeners: what “is” rock/metal/punk? To some “old schoolers” (in terms of beliefs, not age), this music is a way of life laid on a belief of purity of expression, truth and a f*** you attitude to the establishment. That is more important than perfection of sound, super accurate performances, and musical acrobatics. Obviously this thought is not shared by everybody. But, in my opinion, all of the arguments of “old music is better” should be discussed through that lens. Not taken out of context.

[@invastnessitransfigure3812]

Ok so basically Im i wanna go back to MySpace deathcore era

[@LeonardGMN]

I find it really weird that people classify music in "centuries" and not in "genres". When people say "80s music is the best" do they mean like... All of it? From soft rock and trash metal to post-disco, synth-pop, Michael Jackson, Joy Division etc etc? Or do they mean only the top selling artists? I don't get it.

[@moshingsafely]

Some angry white dude: "Rap used to be all about social commentary, and now it's just meaningless party music" Sugarhill Gang: "I said a hip, hop a hippy, a hippy hippy hip hip hop and ya don't stop"

[@nejayandnick454]

David Greenwood that was before the concept of social commentary Came into rap

[@moshingsafely]

@@nejayandnick454 Sugarhill Gang was practically before the concept of rap came into rap

[@nejayandnick454]

David Greenwood well the concept of rap or rapping was way before Sugarhill gang was put together

[@nejayandnick454]

David Greenwood and released rappers delight in 1980 and Sugarhill gang didn’t write the song which I find funny about it

[@camiblack1]

Even better example that can't get you into "Sugarhill Gang doesn't count". Summertime from back when Will Smith was still the MC in DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince.

[@Thomas___]

*_6:39_**_ that is true in one way, but back then, there were more highly talented bands than now_*

[@concernedcommenter8258]

U so right

[@333arceus9]

not really

[@skylightplayz5174]

Ok boomer

[@DicedTomato41]

@Thomas You are absolutely correct. Over the last few decades, the standards for music have plummeted. Back in the 60's and 70's, for example, musicians had to be exceptionally talented to actually make fortunes off their music. In other words, they had to be talented to win the competition. Led Zeppelin, The Eagles, Jimi Hendrix, Fleetwood Mac... Compare those with today... Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj, and every rapper who flashes money and talks about "b*tches and n*ggas." There is no comparison. Not to mention that most "music" created today is synthesized digitally. Auto-tune here, a simple beat there, absolutely no instruments involved, and voila! you get millions. That's no real musical talent. Something is seriously wrong.

[@trevor_mounts_music]

nah dude, sorry. You are confusing production value with quality songwriting.

[@andreaschlapek780]

60ies and 70ies still rules. Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Black Sabbath, The Kinks, The Ramones, Deep Purple... Come on...

[@cityfantv-everythingmancit2946]

Andreas Chlapek 90’s had oasis, green day, nirvana ;)

[@idkanymore9869]

Oasis is dog shit

[@mr.nachomacho868]

Yea

[@bossfan49]

Better production quality does not make the music (songs) better.

[@Drstrange3000]

I wish some people could realize this...

[@MrFloyd-te1nh]

You need to listen to the album Aja by Steely Dan. It was recorded in 1977 and it sounds like it was recorded today. Also their album Gaucho, released in 1980, it's a proof that music back in the day could sound as good as today's music.

[@drdead2006]

Big Chin Finn and his Drum Plug In Beatdown All Stars

[@danielcarrasco5251]

I think Big Chin Finn would be a great mascot for him to use as his channel

[@drdead2006]

@@danielcarrasco5251 Big Chin Finn called me a pussy at the Terror show.😞

[@nicks4802]

He grabbed my ass in a limp bizkit moshpit

[@FustFPV]

My most memorable day was driving 4 hours down south to watch PWD. I remember thinking in the car "theres no way parkway hasn't edited there drums". Get to the tiny school hall and end up on stage as they play flesh bones and weakness. "OK, I think I found my new favorite band". With there talent and the work they put in, they deserve how big they have gotten

[@mattjasper895]

Chris from Oceans Ate Alaska = human drum machine

[@andynewen]

Really love those guys I don't get why they get ignored so much.

[@mattjasper895]

They definitely should have more fans of their music.

[@kimimaro9876]

Flo is a fucking legend though. Rightfully so. Not knocking OAA.

[@xacbertdebarbeira_]

Dude, really? Counting Crows? Never ever! I really agree with all you're saying, but this... I'm speechless. What the? I mean, August and Everything After is probably one of the defining moments for 90s rock music and a whole lot of brilliant bands that have come since. I need some time for myself now...

[@DarkPanthera]

I'll stick to old music

[@anthem4333]

Even if the drums are edited, it still sounds good that THATS what makes music good, not how it’s made

[@danielpatternson6149]

Yes.

[@brandonthomas6880]

I think it's easy to say older music is better, especially when you didn't live in the decade you wanted to lol

[@raisa_cherry35]

😂

[@crystalmaynard1651]

Exactly

[@whalesequence]

Vocal editing takes the soul out of anyone's voice, even a tiny bit messes it up, great singers shouldn't use it

[@bw2937]

Maybe to you but that's only your own definition of what 'good' music needs to be. People would have hated electric guitars and called them fake long long ago.

[@TheDrewisawesome]

You leave Mr. jones alone, that song is a classic Finn! Lmao

[@Steve_P_B]

Way I see it, there's good and bad in every era. It's just how you choose to look at things. If you go into something looking for the garbage, guess what you are going to find? If you take the time to look for good stuff, you will find it.

[@cjthibeau4843]

And on a real note, amazing video as always. You always try to show both sides of issues when neccesary so thank you for being a role model in your ability to do so for your viewers!

[@sarizonana]

I also love his approach on videos and make us see the older gens that not everything Is bad from new music. Now as millennial I’m only struggling to like the songs from 2018- 2023 but I do love 2010s music. I love 80s, 90s, 00s and early to mid 2010s, it’s late 2010s and 2020s music I’m struggling with but I’m finding here and there a few current songs I like.

[@ThatBlindGuy247]

2 albums i can't listen to now just production wise is Cradle Of Filth's first 2 albums they sound rough now. Man that is such a stupid thing. People say there's no good new bands but that's bollacks you can't expect every band to fall in your lap Bands i found through just scrolling labels pages and recomended stuff are great Free Throw, Loser, Afterlife, Bilmuri, Hot Mulligan, Backwards Dancer, Decay UK, Gatherers, The Gloom In The Corner, NoSelf. All these bands were just me looking for music while i like old stuff too i do think new music is far better.

[@brock-182]

The Gloom in the Corner are fun as hell to listen to. Never know what I’m getting into when I listen to a song of theirs for the first time.

[@ThatBlindGuy247]

@@brock-182 yes they're so sick

[@andynewen]

Yep basically it's just old/older people have stopped looking. Are they expecting to find new great new music in rock/metal listening to their local clasic rock station lol?

[@ThatBlindGuy247]

@@andynewen probably saw someone moan about that on a loudwire post and everyone had a go at them for saying there's no good new music

[@ashleynoname3580]

That's how I've found a lot of the band's I've been listening to lately (including The Gloom in the Corner). I love finding new bands and new sounds.

[@themadthrasher5000]

Music is timeless, anyone that considers themselves to be a music fan knows this. It transcends recording quality and equipment, but good songwriting will always be good songwriting. There's a reason why people will still be listening to bands like Slayer, Led Zeppelin, Motorhead, The Beatles, etc for many many years to come. New music isn't better or worse than old music, it's just music. And if it excites you and makes you feel good listening to it then why does it matter if its from 1974 or 2074?