New Orks vs New Adeptus Custodes! James vs Nick Battle for Initiative Warhammer 40k

James is back in the studio unleashing another signature WAAAAAGGGGHHHH! Can Nick and a Shield Host of the Ten Thousand hold back the Green Tide?
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[@stephenkotyk399]

The fact Nic forgot all the rerolls for the Allarus and Guard broke my little banana heart

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Sorry! It broke my heart myself. I will do better next time!

[@TheZombiemofo]

He also seemed to forget that the just like the orks waaagh, the custodes detachment rule lasts the entire battle round.

[@froggysense]

Not bad though for his first time

[@TriforceofJacob]

My first game of admech I forgot almost all of my detachment rules as well as unit (and especially leader) abilities. It was still a pretty close game against my friend's pre-codex, index 10th edition orks. When we play again, he'll have his codex and I'll have my rules down a little better. It's a fun experience playing a new game.

[@wassup048]

Probably would’ve killed some more if they could remember that

[@aidonpor8211]

If Nick uses the Custodes Codex as an improvised club we might stand a chance.

[@thisisalie-ft8cv]

he could also use it as a throwing stone

[@thisisalie-ft8cv]

cause after you us it, you’ll throw it out and never use it again

[@PooberryPancake]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jamo3976]

Hahahaha

[@milksus4391]

Ahhh so that's what the prosecutors use in melee thanks

[@antoniogilromero1981]

To quote the famous Mr House: "Ideoligical purity and shiny power armor don't count for much when you're outnumbered 15/1"

[@Lunch_Meat]

And yet, in New Vegas I killed both House and everyone who stood against me with just that.

[@nuclearlefthook5008]

Lore Custodes have entered the chat

[@mrfrost6211]

@@Lunch_Meat don't think that applies to warhammer very well tho

[@andrewcrawford8306]

Background music for the last few episodes had been ON POINT

[@finn7530]

was about to comment this!

[@DX2ification]

Ok time to add Custodian Nick to his collection of factions played

[@PhillipOnTakos]

Janitor Nick. I think that's the best title for him.

[@chriscarmona7725]

The production value really is what keeps me coming back. Thank you guys so much for your contributions to the community. 10/10 no notes.

[@thekrispiestkreme5609]

I’m not gonna lie, my Paint scheme for the custodes is almost identical and i straight up did a double take- like when did my solar watch end up over there. Still I can live vicariously through nick and pretend it’s my army getting the ever loving snott kicked out of them

[@PlayOnTabletop]

I did take inspiration for the paint style from a picture I found online. So… you never know! It could have been you that inspired this army. If so amazing job and thanks for the inspiration!

[@thekrispiestkreme5609]

@@PlayOnTabletop don’t think it was me but for what it’s worth- your first outing with the army was impressive. Your wealth of game play experience and technical play was enough to make you look like a veteran of the 10,000. I hope you keep playing them and grow your collection! Just wait till you start dropping bombs with your double Aries gunships

[@jordanrogers369]

I'm painting my Trajann Valoris later tonight/tomorrow and I already preordered a combat patrol of Custodes as well! I just got all the paint to paint them as solar watch with royal purple accents as well! Once I saw the notification, I knew I had to watch!

[@honnorgaurd]

@@PlayOnTabletop Honestly seeing your army paint job really helped me alot as well. I wasnt sure how well Silver and gold together would look on them but now i see it very much looks amazing without detracting from the classic iconic look of the custodians. this just made me a whole lot more excited to finish painting my custodes

[@Fleewood52]

@@jordanrogers369 fyi, solar watch have white/ivory coloured armour and red detailing. The Aquilian Shield are clad in gold and purple like you see here, I have mine painted the same way because the lore is cool

[@IPIay01]

I think this is what makes Orks one of my favorite factions. The sheer absurd amount of dice you get to roll is amazing.

[@baddidea4863]

Sisters of Silence fans are just happy to have been included

[@drdrone0469]

Everyone at the studio is awesome, Nick just brings another level of infectious positive energy that is awesome to see!

[@YeaItsMeMatt89]

WWWAAAAAAAGGH!!! Love it when James visits! He's a real fungi!

[@2001eloc]

I had to explain to coworkers today just how much of a 40k nerd I am when I shouted out in excitement that there is a new custodes 40k in 40min, so happy I want more

[@Orkimedes-sc8ef]

Boyz with sticky objectives is sooo good! Haven't seen James so happy in a game in a long time. The new codex is awesome! (Not speaking about the custodes obv)

[@swheen]

Sure, the Codex is alright. NOw go and check the legends datasheets.

[@Deletirium]

I never thought watching other people play and paint miniatures could be so satisfying.

[@samuelalbrycht6724]

The narrative of turn two was so cool! The Waagh being absorbed and shredded by the Martial Mastery of the Host.

[@cmclachlan]

Nicks's custodes put up a better fight than I thought they would. That Orc army is scary! This was a good game to watch. Well done both players.

[@dragonling748]

James let him off easy

[@stuartbanana5083]

It was also someone new to the faction against a Very experienced opponent with their army. Was a very enjoyable watch and incredible editing as Always. Cheers!

[@Jessie_Helms]

The Custodes got nerfed _hard_ in my opinion. I played against a 10 year veteran today as a 5 month, 10~ games, 1 win player with space marines and while he did ultimately kick my ass, it was very heavily in my favor for a long while. My list was: 2 Gladiator Lancers 1 Redemptor Dreadnaught 1 Tech Marine 5 Terminators 1 Terminator librarian 10 Infernus 1 Captain 1 apothecary 20 Intercessors (in 5 man squads) 1 Lieutenant 1 Chaplain (each leading 1 squad a piece) 5 Infiltrators 3 Eliminators 1 Phobos Librarian 1 Vindicare Assassin 3 Inceptors 2075 points vs almost exactly 2,000 points in Custodes. Up until round 4 I was _winning_ and I wiped about 2/3 of his army. As an extremely bolter heavy, slightly psychic army. Final tally at the top of his turn round 4 (I went first) was like 63 to 32, but that’s cause he scored like 25 points _in my turn_ through Assassinate + his Command Phase related objectives. Before that I was slightly ahead.

[@RevanR]

Mr. Initiative is literally me for that horde army list

[@Marlin-er3jp]

Isnt there a theory that the emperor is only alive because the orks believe he is.

[@foxbomber5]

YOU GOT DAT RIGH!

[@thegreatsoftjellything]

It certainly couldn't hurt his chances.

[@Conquerersbeef]

😮 I love this theory haha

[@Marlin-er3jp]

@@Conquerersbeef me and some friends came up with a theory that doom guy is the god emperor lol

[@Conquerersbeef]

@Marlin-er3jp i mean, I thought these were known facts 🤣

[@megladon5645]

Green tide has really become what the death guard wish they were lol.

[@bennettroth3051]

Personally I disagree. The way it is now where you can do vehicle or infantry, rhinos land raiders allows for a lot of versatility. Plus mortarion ignoring modifiers with indirect fire is a thing

[@Swampert919]

It’s kinda funny, green tide is what we want with our poxwalker horde, we also want to be like custodes with our actual marines.

[@Doomeye56]

@@bennettroth3051 I agree I also like the focus on disease and spreading it over their old generic 'we're tough' gimmick.

[@coreyriegle1328]

Roll Green Tide 🤘

[@ReynardCalcifius]

I just want to get disgustingly resilient back and blightlords to get a buff and DG would be perfect imo

[@thatepicwizardguy]

Orks are looking REALLY good and fun. James was smilin big. Lookin forward to more Ork gameplay

[@benjaminspannagel4327]

🤯That was off the charts! Nail biting battle! Awesome commentary! Super clean overall production! Cheers!

[@TheHorzabora]

Talons of the Emperor! Shame they got a *terribad* codex in this instance. Orks got such a better codex. Why do I love my elite armies so, given how badly GW handles them :) (And how GW refuses to make Eldar a real elite army, but that’s another rant…) The Ork Codex feels really nice, though, much needed for them! Not a match I could watch to the end, though, it was just absurd how many attacks the orks were throwing around relative to Nick’s Custodes - although I will admit his list clearly needed more troops, those jet bikes look awesome… but I would never field them.

[@swheen]

Dood, give me back my FW minis and i'll trade codexes wth you. Rules are temporary, purge of fluff is eternal.

[@TheHorzabora]

@@swheenwell, that’s fair… but in the end it seems we’re all loosing minis atm. GW is on a purge of reducing their range. Which benefits no one except people who make 3D printed designs :-)

[@andrewcrawford8306]

Yeah after turn 1 it was pretty obvious where it was going unfortunately

[@gstellar96]

Legit might as well keep playing the index

[@MrJWrizzle]

@@andrewcrawford8306it was so close at the end, so not that obvious really

[@Caboose1428]

At 11:55 James says you can reroll charges on your waaagh turn, I think he meant advance+charge unless i'm missing something about the new codex.

[@theophrastusbombastus1359]

It wasn't a terrible loss. They may end up being sub-50% win rate in the tourney scene, but I'll reserve judgement for casual play after a few games

[@AntiNubDevice]

I really enjoyed the tunes on this one. They're never bad, but don't often stand out much to me. Great job this time around on the music!

[@MaddieTheThousandRavens]

Loved this battle! watched live from the uk and being able to talk to nick in chat about his custodes was great! and ben did excellent on the editing front as always

[@theophrastusbombastus1359]

Have you guys ever thought of running a crusade league? 40 mins style?

[@suetyhercules7717]

I hope they see this comment because I would love to see that

[@Moleman_G]

They have a bunch of thematic crusades they’ve done on their Patreon, highly recommend them

[@amezaing1]

Nick is that guy that they throw in everything give it life

[@Jagothor]

This is the most exciting match I've seen yet. The players' interactions made it fun for everyone!

[@Cyber_Zombie]

every time it’s orkz turn the heavy metal fires up lol love it 🤘🏻

[@finn7530]

absolutely love james’ orks and nick’s armies. it’s awesome when they battle and fantastic music as well!

[@joshuataylor5080]

Oh this was so good! It's always a fun game when Mr. Initiative is on, especially when he plays Nick (or Tycho the child of Chaos). Great game gents!

[@Adalon-]

Sorry Nick, you're no longer the 10,000 sons of the emperor

[@HeartlessNinny1]

So cool to see James going with the Green Tide. Awesome!

[@romeo.3472]

Surprisingly tight game, though the orks would just drown the Custodes in dice rolls. Always great watching James play on the channel. 😊 WAAAAAGH!!

[@vortex21jw]

Most games I've seen of the new codex is custodes basically getting tabled. Not looking good for them

[@Bonesawisready926]

We'll see how they cost them, but horde custodes is just terrible and takes you out of the fluff of the game.

[@esteban20969564]

custodes had always been bad at massive armies, and if you had rolls like nick, is even worse

[@TheLastDarkVanguard]

I'd hardly call this a Tableing, Nick more lost to The Heart of The Cards. That being said; that was Shoddy Luck losing his Spear Guard so quickly.

[@elshano_]

The intro has so many shades of the original Iron Chef and I’m 100% here for it “NEWWW CODEXXX BATTURUUU”

[@StealthVenturi]

Well played Nick! You did really well for the first time using Custodes! And James, WAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!

[@odststalker5117]

can't stop the WAAAAAAGGGGHHHH

[@therealforestelf]

two of my favorite armies to see here! still can't decide which one I'd rather collect and command :D plus I absolutely love Nic's Energy, it's really cheering me up every time! please never change

[@WhenYouGoMadd]

I would run a lot more Sisters of Silence if I rana Custode army. 11 Witchseekers and a Knight can pile into a Rhino with Scout and rush objectives.

[@mouthwide0pen]

How are you running 11 witchseekers

[@programakigo]

@@mouthwide0pen Probably 10 Witchseekers and a Knight-Centura with flamer for 11 Witchseekers.

[@WhenYouGoMadd]

@@mouthwide0pen You have 10 in a Squad and then you get to attach either Aleya or a Knight.

[@WhenYouGoMadd]

Oh, I said 11 and a Knight in my intial comment, lol. My fault.

[@Astra_Martarum]

Never been a big fan of the Custodes, but those look superb! That colour scheme really suits them, especially on the tank!

[@lurkingedge]

Nerf's gonna be rough.

[@SauceBoss98]

James, brother you have to read the pain boy data sheet. You not only missed the d6 mortal wound Urty Syringe on a 4+ for infantry, and I swear I didn’t see painboy boyz regen once (the Grot wargear not the strat). Also reroll saves of 1 for units with 10+ models? I think you missed that rule hahaha. Obviously it’s just game, we’re just having fun, but man, those are some important rules.

[@esteban20969564]

I think they skip some rules or actions for the sake of time and the sake of entertaint. if it was an official game that would be different.

[@anonamarth4291]

It's possible that they just didn't show it in the edit, since there's already more than enough going on, and they need to try and condense 2+ hours into about 1/3 of the time.

[@beanspud88]

Think he missed the fact he had 5+ invuls on the boyz as multiple times he says he has no save.

[@zerocoolaow5122]

I'm looking to get some Cutsodes, let's see how this plays out. Also, always happy to see Mr. Initiative in action.

[@davidaward82]

Ah, the Cuss Toads, maybe not as well known as the standard custodes, but far better at parties.

[@DarkEmperorRay13]

When can we expect to see a return to the Nickrons vs our big bearded boi the WAAAGHMaster?

[@FeliPeltier]

I enjoy watching these 40k videos but they always make me glad I chose other war games to play.

[@j.j._]

Glad to see the orks get some love! Good job James!

[@innocentbystander309]

Whoever kept syncing the VO with the mouth flaps (Tak, is that you?) did so masterfully.

[@jessiefroese5591]

Finally someone noticed! It was so fun to do lol

[@SoulCrusherEx]

Great match. Never thought Custodes Nick would be a thing

[@stuartbanana5083]

Waaaaaaaagggghh!!! Great game lads! Krump them Shiny Gits good! Da Tide Returns! Excellent showing from Nick! Custodes are freaking Cool! Hope they get a few tweaks in a FAQ, as they are a rough matchup! Maybe a rematch once the dust settles and Nick had a few more Golden Games under his belt?

[@confusedturtle55]

Haven't watched in a little bit. Glad to see we've still got metalcore backing tracks

[@laurencepenfold]

A lot closer than I expected. When the Custodes starting falling I thought they wouldn't have enough attacks on the board. As it was, a couple of different choices by Nick could have clinched it.

[@AzeriathGaming]

New to Warhammer. Started painting a week ago. No idea what’s going on in this vid but damn I can’t wait to get into it 😂

[@Deliriation]

The amount of blinking at 1:29 by James just screams "I'm lying and I know it"

[@cylondorado4582]

That was some fine Choppin’, Boyz.

[@Tommomomomo]

Doesn’t Storm Hostile Objective say you have to redraw if you get it first turn?

[@rngriff1]

That was the very first time I've seen Da Orkz beat the custodes.

[@allaboutadam]

Lagwagon cap? James got all the respect for that! Legends

[@robertmiller6817]

Dang that was a lot of ones on Nicks side! Brutal!

[@BlackMethos]

Considering this was Nick's first game with the golden boys: Well done! Imagine what he might be able to do with them with more games and experience under his belt (and better rolls. ;)).

[@Constantspeed]

I'm currently starting to learn more about tabletop and I gotta sa the Stodes in tabletop is way different in lore. And I'm very very interested. I'm currently painting my first Custodes set

[@Asuraproxy]

Hi everyone! I have a question on the overwatch at 37:23 isn’t supposed to hit on 6 as the Overwatch stratagem makes you hit all shoots on “6”? Poor warboss 😢😢

[@omagouille4104]

You can see in the video that they made flames go from the Achillus dread, meaning it was done with it and it's flamers. You don't need to hit with torrent weapons so the warboss got what it deserved !

[@yaumlamachine6984]

Fantastic! Another great batrep guys But is James giving himself a handicap? Warboss has 9 attacks during a WAAAGH! 🤩

[@paulradcliffe1520]

We appreciate the captions / subtitles

[@SpaceMarineFromTheOtherSide]

Sehr colles Match von euch beiden, krass das es dann am Ende die Karten entscheiden, aber schön für James das er seinen ersten Sieg gegen Custodes verbuchen kann. Danke euch

[@ElJewPacabrah]

Is Steve with the PlayOn crew now? Or just a visit?

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Just a visit.

[@ElJewPacabrah]

@@PlayOnTabletop nice i was going to say he compliments your crew very well.

[@derekball3965]

Great job ! Fun game! Custodes really need the bring a model strat back and a way get extra command points . New codex for golden boys way a bit of a let down

[@toportime]

They ignored the "Scorched Earth" game rule! They never picked a unit for it.

[@christerprestberg3973]

Pretty neat trick with the sticky objective boyz + wierd boy teleport to let them chill at home objective then jump to the fight

[@cbthemetalhead]

Soundtrack is heeaavy man

[@corbinbodine536]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but when the boyz moved into the tank after being flamed by the dread they were then shot by the bikes. However, the boyz are in engagement range, they can’t be shot anymore

[@Ragnarok2504]

Not a bad game! It seems Custodes aren't as bad as people say they are. This game really went down to rolls and secondaries. You do depend on Forgeworld stuff though to make the most of Custodes, but in the end it was really close!

[@luketfer]

Keep in mind that Green Tide is considered one of the 'weaker' detachments, Bully Boys is, pre-points release, considered the top pick for Orks by competitive players with Dread Mob considered the major 'for fun' detachment which might still be competitively viable, the War Horde (index detachment) is middle of the road, with Green tide and then Kult of Speed considered the two weakest. Edit: Turns out that GW moved a LOT of the Grot vehicles/other Dreads to Legends today, So the major pick for Dread Mob, the Grot Tanks, is now not competitive available, which massively drops their options down and thus might actually make Dread Mob about the same as War Horde or even Green tide.

[@Ragnarok2504]

@@luketfer True, but I think that also shows that Custodes are not as bad as people say. It showed that this was the first time Nick used this army. Had he had more experience and better luck in dice, he could have easily taken this game. Tbh, I feel the custodes codex is just boring to play, not bad.

[@demiliomason1565]

​@@Ragnarok2504it doesn't help that his list is not optimal, on top of him not knowing what he's doing. This honestly kinda hurt to watch.

[@kazanekagari5209]

Not even close if the opponent is a shooty army. U get shot to death before getting close.

[@Ragnarok2504]

@@kazanekagari5209 Yeah but that's more of a problem on how shooting works than on the army itself. A strong shooting army will destroy any other army at the moment.

[@stevefelten1197]

So Orks have 5+ invulns, and they can get 5+ feel no pains, what the Wild World of sports is going on, and they are still a horde army.

[@discopete117]

Why’d you guys stop doing the combat patrol vids? Was hoping to finally see you guys do GK in 10th edition

[@alexandrudorries3307]

Man, I love the Adaptus Cuss Toads!

[@javier855]

Need more James and his boyz WAAAAAAAAGH

[@shadeling6717]

nice to see the green tide. i'm excited to see the dread/kan mob detachment though. That one just looks bonkers fun.

[@Daedricsoulslayer]

Cheers to Mr. Initiative! Cheers to Custodes Nick!

[@sludgedisciple]

James is my favorite, because Orkz is da bezt. Nick is a good egg as well.

[@mannys7290]

Grav Tanks with the "Frieza" paint jobs

[@diegobrando3430]

1:32 "Custodes are very strong." Glad he's hamming it up for the audience. Custodes vs anything now is... well it's one sided. Not for the Custodes.

[@zigzagarisen]

Boyz hitting Custodes on 2s just seems wrong.

[@petaisajoke]

It’s ridiculous

[@beerhammer40k23]

It's nice to see the orks aren't OP. I'm really looking forward to using my new orks codex when it arrives

[@JohnSmith-tv9ou]

Thanks for the heads up on the loud noise.

[@Drakio95]

Amazing game guys :D I was sure those Custodes were toast from 2nd turn and Nick still managed to do a lot of work. Btw regarding that last objective draw, wasn't there some rule saying that if you get an objective impossible to do you throw away that objective and get another draw?

[@PlayOnTabletop]

Many people house rule that. But officially no.

[@Murkglow]

It's on specific cards. Engage On All Fronts, for example, says "If, when you draw this secondary mission card, you only have one or two qualifying units remaining in your army, you can discard this Secondary Mission card and draw a new Secondary Mission card." Not every card has that though.

[@anonamarth4291]

James didn't go dread mob with the stompa??

[@romeopendonjr.1318]

Nice to been waiting for this match up lol

[@swheen]

The axing of the Orks forgeworld range makes me reconsider supporting the Auxillary marketing outlets. Not holding a week of custdes or orks, is in retrospect, a wise decision on the end of the Play on Tabletop team.

[@williamvisintainer7838]

What’s the song at 21:31?!? GOES INSANELY HARD BTW🔥🔥🔥

[@Luzo14]

James' dice are weird, not gonna lie. I took me until 31:38 to realize, oh, the little dot is not a one, it's a fancy six, and I've been wondering why a bunch of ones have been passing as hits and wounds. Great game though! Loving to see the golden boys performing well, despite all the controversy around them and their codex lately

[@samuelalbrycht6724]

MVP Contemptor Achillus

[@venom9341]

waited for that! only 6 more hours and then from work to couch and the Battlereport :D

[@NZDivine]

@14m45s Does the stratagem let you move into engagement range of enemy models?

[@greigpil9835]

This one confused me too. Strat doesn't say anything about allowing to move into engagement range; and rules on movement specifically say you can't move into engagement range.

[@jonthetall1]

Where are the purity seal markers from?

[@sergiolp6058]

Another awesome game as always. Gotta say custodes never get me excited they feel weird, the tank specially i don't know...

[@Chakfor]

What's the music that starts at the beginning of turn 3? It sounds very familiar but I can't place it.

[@TheOneTrueKyyng]

This is why Orks are my favorite army. They are a lot.

[@ZachsryHutchison]

Wouldn't it be awesome to see orc vs tyrannid but both at like 4000 points only melee infantry

[@TheOneTrueKyyng]

@@ZachsryHutchison 😱😱😱 I would call in sick to work to watch that match in person

[@ZachsryHutchison]

Bro me too! It would be so dope

[@ZachsryHutchison]

Now I've got to play Dawn of war lmao

[@sumisu_senpai_6280]

@@ZachsryHutchison I used to love playing Orks in DoW, I used to reach a point playing against my mate where I couldn't penetrate his defense, but I was constantly spawning boyz. So you'd hear a bunch of orks marching shouting "orks! orks! orks!", and then the one at the front shouting "WE'Z ALL GONNA DIE" as he takes multiple meltas to the face lmao