NEW Penn Tidal Beach rod Review - A rod for All ?

[@BarneyTrent]

Excellent video Matt. Love an unbiased tackle review, getting rare these days! Happy new year

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yea I always find it annoying when you read an article and it’s clearly a Promotion. It’s like we have been tricked! That said there are some excellent rods out there across manufacturers. The confident and best brands Will always say do an unbiased review

[@shaunbrown3010]

Hi Matt bought 2 tidal 10oz arrived and both rods had damage to the rod rings one had the top eye bent with the insert hanging off, the second had a bent ring with the insert missing. Rods were packed as normal in solid rod tube. Due to illness rods were not used straignt away but a good few months later so had gone pass the returns time, had to have both rods fixed before using for the first time, sent an email to penn but never heard anythink back, good rods but very weary of rings failing.

[@Dp3.16]

Has this problem last year with two penn tidals then the third one snapped needless to say I won't be purchasing penn again shocking!

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Good info thanks, I wonder if it’s a packaging issues from factory. I’m sure a good tackle shop would of excepted a return. Appreciate illness causing the gap in time - frustrating

[@jamiesmart9016]

​@@Dp3.16 I bought my first penn rod in June tidal rough ground rod used it for the second time today it snapped at the lowest joint, I was only using 5oz of lead and a small squid bait and basic overhead cast, I will not be buying anymore penn rods the joints don't push together properly I've been told it's for wearing purposes but it's obviously a weakness to because that's where mine snapped 😢

[@lesleyjoe4804]

Was looking at these a month ago and decided to spend a bit more and got a pair of penn mag 525 6nbait rods on sale for 480 quid they are the best feeling rods i have used i pick them all day over my century even a mate who wont touch anything but zipplexx prefers em

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Ha ! The fact you have converted a Zziplex lover is testimony indeed.I have used the 6nbait/525 combo and it’s very slick. Bargain 👏

[@garystevens5549]

If you don’t mind me asking, where did you manage to get such a good deal on the AFAW and Penn 525s? 👍

[@brianpask8955]

Nice balanced report Matt. Sorry I couldn't join you to help put it through its paces but you certainly did that mate. Looks a very interesting rod to get started with

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Next time! Hoping to get some new rods soon. Failing that when i break them i know who to gift them too!

[@leehotspur9679]

Thanks for a fair and honest opinion of this rod Setting up for Beach fishing can be expensive as the rod is only one part for young casters ,if i had a rod like that i would of been stoked when starting out ,It catches fish thats all that matters Thanks for sharing

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Appreciate your well thought out comments here. Me too I use dream of owning the rods I saw in sea angler when I had my£30 master line beachcaster in 1989 !

[@Gazzyb2071]

Nice, honest review, Matt. Well done.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks I am your average Beach Angler id say because i'm not a match Angler.

[@matthewjames1394]

Doesn't necessarily make you an average angler just because you don't fish matches lol​@@SaltwaterAngler

[@johnnybreedt3653]

Nice one. Found this useful. I am looking for a decent beach rod and this review just helped me decide on this rod!!💪💪

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Good choice!

[@davedewaal1762]

For me, the top for the 2nd eye was broken off straight from the Prevail beach the first time I fished. Afterwards the tidal also broke the first eye ring for me. I returned to the Penn Prevail II Surf and I am very happy with that. Too bad it happened.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks thats good info for folk. It was clearly the inner ring that had cracked.

[@trampster7306]

Great video & review Matt. Looks like a good bit of kit. I never go over 4oz leads with my Conti rods, but if I had the need to, this rod would be top of the list. Shame about the cracked ring. Smacks of poor packaging/handling if it occured during delivery. I might have mentioned this before, but there has been lots going on here this year, and I just haven't found the time for KZbin that I used to. Still grateful for your emails though, and glad to know you are doing OK. Stay safe & well, Dave. 🎣🎣👍👍

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Cheers for the update mate. In many ways waiting for spring here but there can be some surprises in January in good weather with Plaice dab and flounder. Even had Bass on fly a few years ago !

[@AlfUckhamHall]

I bought the 13ft model today and have to say I am very very happy with it, paired with the 8000 size Penn Surfblaster 3 loaded with 15lb main line and a shock leader and it is superb. With the sliding reel seat, I can really use the power in the butt to pull off some long casts and much longer than I have been able to with my old rod. I'm a new angler to sea fishing, but have fished for game fish on the rivers of the north east for 55 years and at £120, this rod can certainly cast further than the old rod/reel combination I was loaned by a friend to try sea fishing. Once I get into the swing of things and learn about sea fishing, I might get another outfit and run a pair of rods on the beaches and hard standing areas. 10/10 from me.

[@pault5947]

I'll second the call for a review on the Sonik Gravity X5 HT. Cant find a proper unbiased one online but having seen this thorough review, I reckon you're the man for the job. All the best!

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yea I think it’s easy to find reviews from certain cough cough magazines that are like advertising features 😉 Thanks for the heads up on the X5 it would be good to get a comparison going

[@nicholascavie2464]

Awesome again Matt, Penn is best ,bought a Penn combo ambush rod with a Penn ambush 8000 reel 4 25 dollars found it was great, went back and bought another 1 ,got them from k mart ,.Happy catching from Australia Nick

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Cheers Nick

[@George_Salt]

A good review. I've been using a couple of Penn rods, a Rampage II Bass 11'6 2-4oz and a Squadron II Euro Surf 14' 4-6oz. I've been looking a rod that will cast a heavier lead, but like a few others have commented I much prefer 3 piece for transport. Some great deals about, and I've just pushed the button on the Penn Tidal XR 14' 3-piece for under £120 (inc. delivery).

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Good work ! It used to be the case that a three piece effected the rods action and they were thought of as kids rods. As you know a lot has changed in rod building technology with no difference to the action of the blank. However with budget two piece rods you do get a bit more for your money than the three piece of a similar price. Interesting you mention that Bass rod - I haven’t owned one for years. But now I’ll look them up and dream ! Good input thanks

[@George_Salt]

@@SaltwaterAngler I'm not one for matched pairs of rods. I think of them like golf clubs and prefer to have one rod for the conditions and one that's "close enough" to fish alongside it. The bass rod is a decent compromise for travelling in the motorhome. It will cast a float, or a heavy lure, or a string of mackerel feathers, or cast a shore rig from the beach, rocks or pier. It just struggles to hold ground in a rougher sea or cast in windier conditions with the lighter lead. The one thing you get more of with a 2-piece is length. The difference between two 7' sections and three 4'8" sections is substantial when space is limited.

[@GixxerWayne]

Mine turned up yesterday , had hairline cracks in the lacquer on the 1st 2 rings where the legs are whipped , clearly a manufacturing defect . But the shop are sorting a replacement and collection , they've been brilliant. Never had any probs with Penn rods and ive had a few , Rampage 2 and Tidal Xr ,this one like you said is well priced and definitely capable. I look forward to trying mine out when the replacement arrives . Great vid

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Good update thanks we all find comments like this helpful

[@GixxerWayne]

@SaltwaterAngler used it last weekend at Leysdown , with my mag 4 525 , casts like a dream even with just an over head thump , off the ground even better , also tried it with a okuma surf 8k fixed spool , same result. I think that for the money it's a great rod , guides could be of better quality but again at the price point they do the job , I'm pleased with it

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

I never get 2 piece rods, too long for the car. You should review the 3 piece Penn Tidal range, or Penn wrath 2. I love the Akios fury 14ft 6 oz, and I got my power tip delivered today, so I can load bigger baits and 8 oz. A twin tip rod for under £200.

[@johnmorris2346]

Had my fury awhile with the both tips. Brilliant 👏

[@SaltwaterAngler]

I remember the comedy days of getting my two piece rods in to a ford fiesta (Complete with chrome bumpers) Thanks for this input I will check that fury out too

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

@@johnmorris2346 Fantastic mate. I'm really chuffed with the power tip, can't wait to try for rays. I might even get the Fury FX8 reel to match it all up.

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

@@johnmorris2346 The bite registration on the lighter tip is incredible.

[@johnmorris2346]

@ukgraffitiwalker8846 got the reel as well , not bad for the money ,but I tend to use my penn fixed spool reel with it

[@andrewparkinson2390]

Hi Matt, Great review. I currently fish with two Penn Tidal XR390 3 pce rods matched with Daiwa 35 QD FS reels. Cant fault the 390's for price point and fishability. Great for casting and bite detection and I believe the new 2 pce has a slightly stiffer tip so I am certainly considering an "upgrade". Thanks for your impartial review.!!

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks for adding this - very helpful Stiffer tip is desirable in most rods as you say. We can get it all now as stiff tips still register the bites . Will check out the Daiwa 35s as I’ve not used them before

[@andrewparkinson2390]

@@SaltwaterAngler DAIWA 20 CROSSCAST 35SCW REEL - A great budget, high quality reel. At less than £200 for a solid rod and reel beach set up, you cant beat it !🎣

[@Septical123]

Hello I caught my first sea bass yesterday I’m so happy with it thank you for the video

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Get in ! The best sea fish of them all 💪

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

Well done 😀👍

[@niallharmey7337]

Nice video and great information Im wondering is there such a thing as a decent travel beach casting rod? Been trying to look but no joy problem with flying is the cost of transport. Happy new year Matt and thankyou for the hard work you put into your videos Niall

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Hello mate, thanks for all your support over 2023 as always I appreciate these comments. I will ask around about the travel rod because it’s something a few people have been asking about. I guess most people use lighter rods in their warmer destination. There must be something available though with Norway a popular destination for example.

[@jameswhite6402]

At 01:45 the eye ceramic is broken don’t know if you noticed or if anyone else has already said

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Well spotted - if you watch the video I talk about it in depth as it caused a few problems!

[@peterkerr1505]

Many thanks for your review, as I came back to fishing on retiring, I looked at many rods and reviews. Thinking to pay as much as I could afford to get the best I could. I bought an Akios air power 435. I joined my local club and I struggled to get anywhere with it. One of the team offered to help me with my casting technique which I gladly accepted. The end result was that although an excellent rod, it was too powerful for me. I have ordered this Penn model and if necessary I can get the rings changed. I wish I had come across your channel before. Unbiased reviews are essential for people entering the game, beginning and coming back to, so thank you. I will be watching your channel with interest. Oh, I have an Akios rod for sale if anyone interested?? 😂😂

[@minstrelblue6853]

Informative vlog that . thanks. Just one question, what braid and strength were you using

[@SaltwaterAngler]

15lb Asso

[@minstrelblue6853]

Thanks.

[@londonviking3801]

Nice review Matt, thank you!

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Hi mate, thanks 😊

[@cornishseaangler7687]

Thanks for the vid ,I was planning on buying a pair of these this week but that bottom eye problem has given me cause for concern .

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yea but for me the important thing is the taper on the blank. It’s much more important than the rod eyes(that can be replaced) I’d rather have the blank I need first and foremost. Be interesting what you choose assuming your from Cornwall!

[@cornishseaangler7687]

@@SaltwaterAngler agreed ,for the price point I think they're probably the right rods to go for as they're going to get a battering on the Cornish rock marks

[@glencronin1592]

Great review Matt, have you tried it with a multiplier yet? Would be interesting to see if it cast better with one. Have a happy new year mate.👍👍👍🎣🎣🎣

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yea good thinking will do a long term review with a small 7ht type

[@MikeAmbler-v5v]

Great unbiased review I've got the xr 390 13 ft they're great 👋

[@bobbutton6080]

Nice review Matt, I have just got a Tidal surf caster 450. yet to fish with it but it does feel good. I believe i am quite local to you if you would like to have a cast or 2 sometime.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Nice one , thanks if you see me please come and say hello.

[@bobbutton6080]

@@SaltwaterAngler I did try to pm you. I'm sure we can get together and sort something, possibly with Brian P too

[@lureinspector]

Great review and suggestion for me, thank you. I prefer and like lure fishing but needed also a surf road when I can't fish with lures. This one can replace my damaged surf road and will be a great choice. Do you think is this one will work with my shimano ultegra 5500 reel ?

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thanks yes it will work - but much better matched with a large fixed spool like those surf blasters or Sonik avx . Depending where you fish you might not need a rod this big or powerful though.

[@thejinxeffect]

I have two Penn prevail 2 14ft continental surf rods, I love them. Use a penn surfblaster 3 8000 and a sonic avx10000. Had no issues, dragged in double figure rays on them, good bite detection and I think a decent all rounder for the beach.

[@thejinxeffect]

Forget to say they also have stainless duraglide eyes, no ceramic inserts.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Interesting, I’m with you on those fixed spools too.

[@neiljohnson4804]

Àà was as à aww​@@SaltwaterAngler

[@ukgraffitiwalker8846]

Akios endurance is a good new rod out.

[@russellking7094]

Not new at all. I've had one for about 4 years now but yes a very good rod for its price

[@Andy-71]

Have a look at the Penn mag 4 rock and surf 8oz / 14ft / 3 sections, its a really nice rod but a lot more expensive

[@tangledtackleuk]

Hiya I think for 2024 a few challenges you should do ie find the cheapest set up going use only foraged baits let's see how you get on tight lines

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Very KZbin ! It can be done I’m sure

[@angelawilliams36]

Love both my penn tidals, do all I need them to do

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Good info thank you , Hopefully anyone researching these will see this comment

[@dimawydad149]

It looks like an excellent rod ,it caught my eye Where can I order this rod from Is there any website or something

[@mtadave6702]

The ppt viper was the last rod they made, decades ago.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Exactly 🇬🇧

[@mtadave6702]

@@SaltwaterAngler ye it's about time they pulled their fingers out innit. Everyone's focused on century or ziplex, but penn and even tronix make just as good rods, at better prices. I personally use a 13ft Abu esprit, but I would buy a penn or tronix at the drop of a hat.

[@mtadave6702]

@@SaltwaterAngler top review btw 👏👌

[@martinsmyth5580]

Hi Matt would you have a link where i could buy that rod

[@anthonykeating3223]

H matt, as a beginner does the difference lengths of rods make a difference.regards tony.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yes, lots of pros and cons. Quality is the more important factor though. Over 13ft for me from the beach casting weights

[@paulhiggins8774]

I’ve started back sea fishing after 28 years absence and how things have not changed and still catching bass with my Ryobi project 8000 reel and a Michelle 12ft beach caster converted to coasters, but it looks a bit outdated like my so thought I would look for a good beach casting rod and reel with a budget of £300 for the both, after searching the net I finally decided on this rod although it was a close call as I really liked the Shakespeare salt xt which does have the better rings so hopefully it will come with no Chinese manufacturing defects lol and works well with my new Shimano speedmaster xsc 1400 reel Il let you know my thoughts in a few weeks 👍

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Thats a good reel choice too- will look forward to your review feel free to post here so we can all benefit

[@paulhiggins8774]

my mate picked up the rod and to my disbelief the first eye on the top section didn't have an insert, the guy was very apologetic and replaced the rod, this one all looks good just waiting on the reel to come.

[@Jason-im3pz]

Did you ever try the penn tidal Africa? It seems a hell of a lot of rod for the money, rated for 600-800g

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Damn it another one for me to check out ! Thanks

[@Jason-im3pz]

@@SaltwaterAngler you say it like it's a bad thing. To be fair, the bang for your buck on the tidal range is something else

[@SaltwaterAngler]

@@Jason-im3pz thanks mate yes only jokingly ! It’s great there are so many options and I will have a look at this too appreciate this - I’d love to do a huge group test

[@Jason-im3pz]

@@SaltwaterAngler didn't want to put a laughing face on it but was joking myself. My only complaint is there's too many of them, they're like pandora charms you just can't say no to more

[@PnoyAngler]

rods here in US are limited and sucks. I often buy daiwa but mostly are imports, first time seeing this and will probably get one from waveinn. any suggestion? I'm looking at daiwa tourney ballistics here in US. looking for a cheaper same quality.

[@florinel335]

Hi mate, they said the optimum casting for this rod is 170 grams( 6 Oz), but for me for casting is quite heavy. I would like to know if the rod still good for long casting in case I will change the weight with 3 to 4 Oz. I don’t know if is worth or I suppose to searching for another surfing rod… Still bit difficult to find another good rod on that budget…

[@SaltwaterAngler]

@@florinel335 yea good point - it does need 6 oz to get the best out of it - I would search for a different rod if you like the 3-4oz lead then consider a continental style which is more conducive to lighter weights

[@florinel335]

@@SaltwaterAngler Sure mate, I appreciate

[@TheGun311]

For 2024, would you say the Daiwa kensaki is the best value for money rod you can get on the market these days or has there been any more competitors? Also how has the Kenzaki treated you so far , im on the edge of buying one at the moment - my budget is around 300-350 GBP max for a new first rod

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Crikey lots to think about here. This rod has been O.K its not spectacular but really is a "does the job" kind of rod.Again it depends where you are fishing - There are plenty of competitors- For your budget i would consider Yuki continental rods or for more traditional rod look at the Anyfish anywhere range depending again on your marks and conditions you fish. This rod is more on the budget range and for 350 you will get something better. Im basing this on what i've used or borrowed and fellow anglers i trust have told me. Where abouts are you ?

[@TheGun311]

@@SaltwaterAngler thanks for getting back to me I’m local to Hastings myself too, was initially looking at the century fireblade GTs aswell but generally bexhill , Eastbourne and Hastings area zziplex is abit out of budget for me but I’m glad I waited for your reply before I committed - 350 a lot of rods haha giving me a headache thinking about which ones to go for

[@SaltwaterAngler]

@@TheGun311 I would ask this question at both Pevensey and Tonys . You will get slightly different answers and remember they are trying to sell ! But pick up a few and feel them out

[@anthonycoyne6745]

Which is a better rod would you say? This or the kenzaki? and which one is lighter? Thanks.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

The kenzaki is better - couldn’t tell you what was lighter though

[@anthonycoyne6745]

@@SaltwaterAngler thanks.

[@garywilkinson1970]

Got a link to this rod please

[@SaltwaterAngler]

www.gerrysfishing.com/product/penn-tidal-beach-caster-13ft-4-8oz/

[@davetevens5080]

Nice review Matt. Shame that penn scrimped on fitting Fuji eyes. If they had it would probably be perfect 😊😊

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yea i was thinking that ... BUT its about how good the non Fuji ones- are. A more long term test should tell us.

[@Stuart-e6y]

Got a diawa tournament and a kenzaki which can do anything

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Sure thing. My first proper rod was the Daiwa HPB I couldn’t believe it could cast and recognise taps on the rod tip! Price an issue though

[@TheTangledAngler]

Hi mate, I bought this rod and the sliding reel seat is stuck in a low position, any tips on how to get it moving again?

[@SaltwaterAngler]

I’ve used an inner tube as a grip ? Maybe that will help ?

[@aliacikgoz35]

Hello from Turkiye, Would you like to tell me how long is maximum casting distance with this rod?

[@angleseytightlines2918]

Interesting review Matt. I have been using a Beach and Pier rod from @limitlesseafishing which retails for £80. Sounds very similar in build. I had no problem bringing in an 8lb small eyed ray on it and have had countless bass too. Tightlines from Anglesey 🐟🎣

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Good feedback that’s an interesting price point too thanks

[@danielraileanu7552]

Hi!...did anyone found a tip part section replacement on the internet?for Penn tidal or XR 4.2 100-225gr?

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Not me 😥

[@joannecheesman7255]

Review the sonic gravity x5 please.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yes Please ... are you listening SONIK!

[@mihairadoi8275]

what rod do you recommend for fishing after pier?

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Depends on your methods - float, lure or bottom fishing but actually a 12/13 ft beach rod will be fine on most uk piers. I used to like a flatty fanatic or even a carp rod as long as a 3oz lead can sit in the tide.

[@mihairadoi8275]

Penn tindal good for pier

[@mihairadoi8275]

Spinning mackerel

[@mihairadoi8275]

@@SaltwaterAngler spinning mackerel

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Yes it will work o.k for mackerel but my choice would be a rod that is suited to 3oz

[@SaltwaterAngler]

You can get this rod here.... www.gerrysfishing.com/product/penn-tidal-beach-caster-13ft-4-8oz/ Im not being paid to say nice things. Gerrys sent me the rod to try and as you can see i've given it my honest opinion. I can vouch for the value of the Penn as well as Gerrys as a company.

[@JamesCagney-g6z]

You Can't beat the price, a lot off Rod for a little money .

[@leehughes2615]

Eye inserts I found that sonik mk1 vader was very poor for this happing and fixed reel seat on them were in a terrible position but these rods are even cheaper so now on hunt for something better I have budget of just over 300 that's for 2 rods I no its not going to get a century rods but iam after best I can get for around 160 a rod I manly use pair of banzai fixed spool reels by tronix but iv been told the Akois hellrazor a good rod for this sort money do you no anything about these rods are people rite in saying they good rod thanks for video they do help ....

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Let me have a think here Lee, Thanks for the comment

[@robertcornelius8056]

Thanks ! Lots of good info . Should I buy it? Would you buy one?

[@SaltwaterAngler]

where are you in your Sea Angling Journey ? If you could only have one rod then Yes. You could spend more and improve in small areas but unless your going to get in to some Ultra Pendulum casting or habitually fish rivers or Summer only then get one if your budget allows

[@david892006]

I saw that cracked butt ring when you was showing close up near the start 1m45s.. Always a problem with cheaper rods, ring quality 👍

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Well spotted , I didn’t see it initially and wondered why I cracked off !

[@david892006]

​@@SaltwaterAnglerI used to work in a tackle shop and every rod we sold had to be checked over before selling. Sometimes you can't even see it but you can feel it 👍

[@ManicFishing]

Liked that😀

[@SaltwaterAngler]

It’s definitely well priced. Maybe it will tempt you back on the beach

[@ManicFishing]

@@SaltwaterAngler haha not sure about that😉

[@carldawson832]

Nice one from GRIMSBY

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Nice one

[@derekames3017]

u think just maybe one day someone will put decent sized rings on a rod ,is it too much to ask??small rings are a nightmare unless your pond fishing with no weed (hate pond fishing :) )

[@michaelparry6890]

Got the tidal xr 480.... 15.9 ft .. its the dreem..

[@SaltwaterAngler]

Good 👍

[@auvet1986]

For a hundred pounds. A hundred pounds of what? LOL! Alabamian here….Wish we had this in the US.

[@SaltwaterAngler]

$90 to you Alabamiams ! I’ve always wanted to go to Alabama 💪

[@MariejoseMadeira]

Dommage que pour une video de présentation d une canne nouveau modéle .on montre une canne avec la ceramique d un anneau casser .... Too bad that for a video presenting a new model cane, we show a cane with the ceramic of a broken ring....

[@GasAcrilico]

Grazie dal italia

[@ericbodley2019]

sorry mat , but you are better than this. You do not need to do useless tackle reviews in my opinion, but good effort. Not what you want to hear , but hey ho. tis what it is .

[@SaltwaterAngler]

No need to apologise- not sure why it’s useless though. Very often Friends here on the channel request reviews and it will be of value to many. There is a wider audience for fishing style blogs. I enjoyed trialing a new rod. Thanks for the comment

[@david892006]

I disagree with that. It gives a non biased 'review' from an angler not trying to sell it.

[@boyinwaders]

I think your tackle reviews are very helpful to be honest. I solely bought a reel because of one, so I’d ignore Eric’s comment

[@northeastangling]

Who does not find a tackle review interesting?? Great see a non sponsored angler reviewing tackle honestly. It is an expensive sport these days. Great stuff 👍

[@SaltwaterAngler]

@northeasttroutflies545 Great comment thanks for this feedback. Glad you got some value from the review 👍