NEW Peugeot 508 SW Sport Engineered Review: Their Most POWERFUL Road Car Ever! | Carfection 4K

[@sleepindragon179]

The styling on the newer Peugeot cars at the moment are on point. They're making good looking cars for sure.

[@cinemenico]

Agreed, the Sabertooth look is working for me. Not sure about the SW's rear here though.

[@sleepindragon179]

@@cinemenico Agreed it's got a mean looking front end.

[@stephanvelines7006]

True, although I‘m not sure about the PSE cluttering...

[@smallhatshatethetruth7933]

The 406 was a looker too

[@bighands69]

Modern Peugeot cars look fantastic as do some of the modern Citroën car. The only issue with Citroën is they are obsessed with SUV shaped cars.

[@StevePoyza]

Proof that it's important to take what reviewers say with a grain of salt. I spent a week in a 508 GT and a week with a 3008 and the driving position was fantastic. Loved the tiny wheel in my lap. Try before you buy (or dismiss it).

[@eugenux]

if it were to follow Henry's opinion, no one would brought a GR yaris.

[@oliviernoir6669]

Yes, important to try - I am 6.2 foot tall and my driving position makes in impossible for me to read the dash in those peugeots, I tried a few. So, no Peugeot for me as long as they keep this small steering wheel and dash position.

[@SikOOs]

@@oliviernoir6669 Interesting, I am 6.13 and own 508 and can adjust my steering wheel and seat to the perfect spot where I can see clearly whole dashboard and a road and sit comfy, it did take time to be fair, find this sweet spot.

[@jdmguy44]

@StevePoyza well said. I had a couple of Peugeot's on hire over the last few years. Always found the driving position/i cockpit setup easy to get on with. I'm just under 6ft. In fact it's great because you can see all the instruments with any interference from the steering wheel. I now actually have a two month old 2008 as my main daily car.

[@ANDYPRITCHARD77]

I sat in the exact model today. This video doesn't do the looks justice, this car looks even better in real life.

[@PhilbyFavourites]

I’d agree with that. I saw one drive past me today and said to my friend I didn’t know Rob had an RS6, he said no it’s a Peugeot and it’s got 350 horse power. It was an impressive looker no doubt about it. Hence I’m here having a look at another fast estate.

[@huwfrancis9437]

Been waiting for this, looks like a hopeful start to the return of the sporty Peugeot!

[@neilbowness6074]

If this is the “start of the return” you missed the 208 gti ps and the 308 ps270, both brilliant cars overlooked by badge snobs

[@eugenux]

@@neilbowness6074 not quite. second tier/lefthand alternatives does not quite mean a start of anything. A good direction, yeah, maybe but are we at the point where we aplaud normality/decency? Well, I'll start clapping my hands when they'll start making a GR Yaris or a type R competitor. We have enough borring cars pretending to be something else these days. And there isn't a person who consider himself a car guy or a person who really enjoys driving as an activity/hobby.. you know, driving for the fun of it..who would rather be in a hybrid big estate instead of a proper driver's car. And no, the financial argument of owning only one car does not stand when the car in discussion is 56k. Any real person who enjoys driving, having "only" 56k for a new car, would take a 35k type R(or a GR), get a 10-15k good family carrier from the second-hand market and with the remaining 5k would plan a 2 weeks tour through the Alps on some of the best driving roads the world has ever seen. Everything else is pure BS and ppl finding excuses for anything. edit. I said gr and the type R as I was reffering to proper driver's cars available from showroom floors. For the same amount, i. e. 35k, you have a wide.. really wide pallet of second-hand proper sports cars in all sorts of shapes and forms. A 2 tons, 5 meters long estate will never, #never! be a proper driver's car.

[@neilbowness6074]

@@eugenux I’ve never seen someone type so much crap and completely miss the point, well done..👍👍👍

[@eugenux]

@@neilbowness6074 for sure, with no arguments beside some obscure personal case, yeah, if I were you, I would have said exactly the same thing. but, as I am not you and as I also, occasionally, use my reason and logic, here it goes: A. this 5 meter, 2 tons, estate car it is NOT a driver's car!, waiting for your argument that proves it is. B. NO 5 meter, 2 tons car is a proper driver's car!, same as above, I'll be looking fwd for your argument that says it is; with examples. C. considering all the above, no real passionate driver would ever buy one! D. at 56k, not even the most dis-passionate driver but passionate person about Peugeot brand will not buy one, as it is, from every POV, a money pit. It would be simple to just burn your money... or, even better, make some donation, help some ppl less fortunate than you. It is probably, by far, a more rewarding thing to do than buy this junk of a car. E. this is coming from a guy who almost brought a rcz. the difference is, that was an interesting car while this one is pure crap... and an expensive crap nonetheless.

[@sneaky_krait7271]

​@@eugenux I fully agree that it is not a sportscar, but it does accelerate quite well and makes for a sporty feeling daily. I hope they will make a very lightweight version of the 208

[@Modge17]

The ‘claw marks’ remind me of the 90’s FIAT badge!

[@TotallyNotASpy1]

I am in love with this car. Ever since i saw it for the first time driving by. When i saw the badge all i could think of was "THAT is a Peugeot?" I really hope i will be able to buy one of these in the near future, because it has become my obsession now.

[@HarryMollyNut]

This channels production quality is second to none. Its such an underrated channel. I dont really understand why.

[@jo05dk]

I like the 508, but man.. If you pay 56K or more for this version, you're gonna lose your shirt, your hat and perhaps even your trousers. The depreciation is gonna be nasty.

[@as114]

Given the fact that all French Car manufacturers throw around with big discount

[@Alby911]

I really don't know why anyone worries so much about depreciation; few cars are immune to it. It's good to be smart with money of course but sometimes you just have to live a little.

[@as114]

@@Alby911 ok then go ahead burn your money! 🤡

[@-DC-]

I can hear the timing chain rattling already .

[@Alby911]

@@as114 Not for this car but I'm sure whoever does will enjoy it

[@Dragoneer]

I really love the fact that Peugeot is bringing back the continuous taillight design from the 90s. I think that looks really cool...

[@superlaw66]

True, but i wish it was a full lightbar

[@dennishassel]

Really looking forward to seeing these on the used market! Can see this becoming a really popular 2nd hand car with price being the only factor standing in its way as a new car

[@bighands69]

No it is not a desirable luxury car. With a 1.6 litre engine producing teenage obsession with specs it is not really going to go down that well with the target audience. I simply do not care about 0-60 times in a family car as it is the least important thing.

[@aidy6000]

who in their right mind is going to buy one at 56K???????

[@bighands69]

@@ollie-t7862 You can spend more money on a Audi A6 estate/wagon

[@eugenux]

@@ollie-t7862 let's hope not. Let's hope next time, if it will be a next time, Peugeot builds a GR Yaris or a civic R type of car and not this nonsense useless 2 tons, 5 meter slow tech fest. Ppl want driver's cars not heavy, un-sporty sallons/estates which are not A6s. Don't know about UK but, have any of you checked the current second-hand prices for real driver's cars?, cars that are less likey to ever be produced again?, low mileage Evo 6s and 9s go up to 100k euros, good 2011 STIs are in excess of 40k euros. FFs, good clio RS 182s are 15k(which was the price from new; and good luck if you want to find a good Clio 3 RS, cup chassis, in that awesome GT3RS green paint). Even the cheap, relatively, untill a couple of years ago caymans and boxters - I could have brought a fender bent 718 2.5l manual one with 40k euros, 2 years ago; now, it is 55k - . 2011-12-13 GT86/BRZ are 15 to 23k. New 2021 type Rs and 2-3 year old type Rs are mostly within 5-6k euro difference in price.. and, most of what people perceive as driver's car have gone up in prices. This the reason for which the gr yaris is such a success and it is in wild demand.. it is because driver's cars are a dying breed and instead, we get dumb cars like this estate hybrid Peugeot. just go ahead and check the prices for proper cars with manual gb, proper chassis and driving dynamics and a decent power unit. In 10 years, a currently 35k GR yaris will still be/value 35k.. if not more. In 10 years, this pile of junk will be 6 to 8k at the most. Get your brains out of your... aa... crossovers and demand proper driving cars from your favorite brands.. and then, make sure you are supporting them by buying the actual cars! if not, in 15 years, the only thing will ever be doing in our cars will be to check diff apps on our phones.

[@ollie-t7862]

@@eugenux I agree, I don't even know why I said let's hope when I hate crossovers and estates. I actually own a Toyota Celica so you can put me in the driver's car category and I also live the gr Yaris and upcoming gr86. This Peugeot is not at all exciting and I apologise for saying anything positive about it

[@jryalls]

I’d consider this car at £40,000. Love the looks and the interior styling.

[@bighands69]

No you would not. It simply is not a suitable car for the target audience. A 1.6 litre car with great 0-60 times does not appeal to the target audience.

[@jryalls]

@@bighands69 What are you on about?

[@bighands69]

@@jryalls What I mean is you would not consider the car with a 1.6 litre engine in that segment of the market. It does look beautiful.

[@NineHellHeaven]

@@bighands69 I wouldn't be put off by the small engine in conjunction with the electric bits. The BMW i8 has a similar idea and people seem to like those.

[@jryalls]

@@bighands69 I wouldn’t put me off either.

[@WeeFreeMan78]

I really, really like what the French are doing for the last 5 years. When the time comes for a change of car they are top contesters along with the Japanese.

[@jdmguy44]

Completely agree. My main car is 2023MY Pug 2008 and my second car 2018MY Mazda. 🇫🇷 + 🇯🇵 = 👍

[@bobjones6031]

Love this video and car, thank you - but, the old 'can't see the dials for the wheel' Peugeot review trope. You're doing it wrong, Henry. You're actually meant to have the steering wheel set much lower than you would in other cars. It looks like you've angled it up like a 'conventional' car. It feels really, really weird at first, but after a day or two, it clicks. You get the agile placebo from the small wheel and a clear view of the dials. Only problem is, one you've adapted, every other car feels odd...

[@marieaudreyduchamp8839]

Henry is always spot on, can’t wait to see this guy joining Chris Harris in the next top gear season

[@mpk927]

💯 And throw out those two bullying buffoons Flintoff and McGuinness. All those two are good for are fielding and toilet humor. They should stick to that, better leave class acts apart.

[@Joshua-cu1uz]

@@mpk927 chill out mate

[@mateenio2186]

I think there's a purity and authenticity to be on youtube. Top Gear is an entertainment show with cars. Harris is exceptional and very well respected but i enjoyed his KZbin vids over TG... I feel it would be the same way if Henry went there too

[@marieaudreyduchamp8839]

@@mateenio2186 didn’t see it that way, good point ...

[@mateenio2186]

@@marieaudreyduchamp8839 thanks Jean 😊 I'm sure we both agree Carfection has always been a cut above the others!

[@twarken5078]

Excellent review as always, Carfection!

[@obsidian....]

Just watched Johnny's review and then I see this with Henry. What a day!

[@purm0ndis]

Just a bit in love with this.

[@malcolmscott4150]

Great piano playing Henry - great review as well and agree with outcome as the 508 SW is a nice non suv cuv mash up with normal ride height and no off road pretentiousness

[@juddotto3660]

I was so excited I didn't read the "ir" in their, the most powerful road car, ha!

[@lungulet]

Ha ha ha! Same here!

[@simoncouldry7174]

I doff my cap to you all after seeing the lengths that you go to in filming. Beautifully shot, edited and of course, presented! Shame the 508 in this guise is a little lacking....

[@kahmed7328]

Good to see something different.

[@rgeorgek42]

Can always tell when Henry won’t buy it when he spends more time talking design than driving it 🤣

[@SChapps]

The intro was lovely.

[@teryyy5052]

Oh Henry! I’m always compelled by some invisible force to hit the ‘like’ button within the first 5 mins of any of his videos! It’s an indescribable force but oh so automatic.

[@jpedrom33]

Very nice review! Love my 508 bluehdi 2.0 180hp 2019. My best car ever.

[@Ahmed90401]

At that price point, I'd expect 450 bhp and a dual clutch gearbox, no less.

[@LorenzoClara97]

New m3/M4/ Giulia qv are torque converter zf8

[@mackie1001]

It’s in the same bracket as an S4 or M340i not RS and M stuff

[@bighands69]

People need to stop obsessing with bhp and start looking at what the cars are like to own and to drive. Modern cars are becoming very sterile like a dentists hightech office.

[@UsgBifJgpwltA]

@@mackie1001 He mentioned them just because the OC mentioned the lack of the DCT in this car and Mr Lorenzo proves that a dct is not necessary in a sports car.

[@neilbowness6074]

@@bighands69 the same people who obsess about bhp are the same people who obsess about badges (and in reality drive lower spec cars because high bhp cars cost too much to own and run)

[@funnykenji]

this is the modern version of legacy GT that frameless door is so rare for estate

[@cupair]

Love the I-cockpit ergonomics and steering wheel is 5/5 on the new 508!

[@平和-v1z]

Amazing car, awesome review!

[@buddahae86]

Sad cat at 9:37 is genius. 👏🏻

[@Monoplacophora]

Damn that's nice. Great video

[@alfamonk]

best-looking wagon out there, love it, but 56K is pushing it. 40 might make more sense.

[@BM_PAZ]

Can't wait to see the discounts available for this.

[@macstone9719]

Looks good, I really like it. And I still own a beautifull 306 Pininfarina Cabriolet, which drives very good with the 2.0 engine :-)

[@bighands69]

It really should have a 3 litre V8 engine at that price and it should not be about 0-60 times either.

[@8Hshan]

Oh hey, I also have a Pininfarina x06 with a 2.0 - just the 406 Coupe, not 306 Cabriolet :) And even though it's objectively not so awesome, I reaaally like this car. ​ @bighand69 3 litre? And a V8 at that? As much as fun it sounds - you know what are modern cars like, and especially, French cars? No chance for any similar engine whatsoever :D

[@Ssh52]

@@bighands69 damn, you really don't like this thing do you? 😂

[@diraziz396]

what with Cabin Noise? - at 05:20.. Thanks Harry

[@jep1912]

Give it two years and I’d gladly drop 25k on one. It’s a triumph!

[@benjamindas0440]

2:07 i agree hundred percent 💯👌

[@robinmarples5198]

The 308 had the same brakes with 350 kg less on the curb weight

[@ironguy6482]

This is the first Peugeot I've liked since the 205gti

[@lucagattoni-celli1377]

Why do the three slash marks not line up in parallel?

[@jamiep61]

I enjoyed watching the Video Review 😄. I prefer the GT SW

[@sutats]

Car looks great. The Mugen side skirts are cool.

[@ArthurZakaryan23]

It's definitely got looks going for it and I am always happy to see a new sporty wagon/estate car enter the fray but yeah the asking price is definitely too much. Shame Polestar has been separated out to it's own brand, the old V60 Wagon Polestar Edition cars were quite nice even if they were nowhere near as extreme as a RS 6.

[@DreamCarGarage1]

The sound is really good in this video. What do you use to record your voice when you're walking around the car?

[@pauldowner1]

Carfection review on the peugeot or the late brake show? It's got to be the one and only Sir Catchpole!

[@tahsin28]

does it have front diff and rear torque vectoring by motors and brake vectoring?

[@dlygrind]

Looks awesome!

[@davect01]

A great looking car that we don't get here in the States

[@BorisBeer24]

Really liking it a ton

[@RubiSnowWhite151]

Love the “not too big a grill” comment...

[@jereniemela2602]

What about the rcz r ? Was it not sporty? Lightweight, 270hp, torsen differentials, the aerodynamics and all kinds of racing parts in it? How it is not a peugeot sport car?

This looks soo good. Also the extra electric power is the way to go imo for a hot estate.

[@burnzy3210]

peugeot is making some great looking cars these days

[@bighands69]

Peugeot always designed nice looking cars but their more modern cars are the best they have had since the 1970s.

[@sjm.photos]

nope im keeping my Rcz fun looks great drives brilliantly plenty of character and love it

[@JD2ndcity]

How long would you have full power for on a trackday in a phev?

[@timephire]

Wagonback FTW!!

[@tristenbrown4208]

Is there any reasons this brand is not sold in America and Canada?

[@brittanyfirst1608]

Stellantis new policy: Chrysler and Alfa Roméo first.

[@4lemer]

This versus Volvo's V60 Polestar Engineered would be quite interesting.

[@MsMsmak]

I was thinking the same thing. I like the Volvo design aesthetic more. Those piano keyboard switches...no thanks.

[@salvofarnia8046]

Volvo yawn

[@MsMsmak]

@@salvofarnia8046 Ah. You wouldn't say that if you ever drove one, especially a polestar.

[@V59971]

Toyota entered the chat

[@josephhill2868]

Looks like a really cool affordable (in a few years) Audi rs6 gorgeous

[@nriyo3]

In a twin turbo I4/V6 I would love this. I need adjustable ride height and a good roof rack and a hitch. People and camping inside and rear on the roof with MTB's on the rear.

[@bighands69]

A car like that would be best suited with a V8 engine and it is not about performance but luxury drive. V6 can also work or a flat 6.

[@Mattje8]

"The most powerful road Peugeot ever" is not exactly a phrase likely to have many people running for the showrooms...

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

Yes and no, theyve built some fantastic performance cars through the years, so a new hot pug should be plenty of reason to run.

[@r088r088]

that aero bodykit represents the PSE logo

[@darkblueturbo]

I don’t know my Peugeot’s. Is this a 3 series / A4 or a 5 series / A6 rival? I’m interested.

[@8Hshan]

3/A4, Peugeot hasn't made anything 5/A6-size in a long time.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

3/A4 in price, although I think it's a little bigger than those. It's in that Mondeo bracket (before they killed that car off).

[@hilmyemy1872]

This is superb

[@robertedwards3551]

Model number on the bonnet is old school Peugeot, just like my Dad's old 504.

[@thor10047]

good explanation

[@alf279]

Not sure I'd spend that much on this, but the 508 in general is a very attracting car. For 58k though... there are alternatives. You can literally get an XF Estate P300 with the R Dynamic HSE package for 10k cheaper, it has a bit less power and no electric power but it's a JAAAAG. Or you could also get a BMW 340i touring with the 3.0 Inline 6, similarly powerful, and even tick a few options. If this 508 had a V6, there would be no question about it being worth every penny. But it doesn't.

[@kernplace37]

The badge not straight at 1:09 lol

[@barsucak7849]

Definitely needs a 2 litre engine in this price range i would say.

[@8Hshan]

Well, let's hope they'll make use of that Alfa's 2 litre, since they're in the same group now.

[@johnsim3722]

The Peugeot lion crying when you said you wouldn't buy. Brilliant. Well done @Carfection!

[@salvofarnia8046]

Its a 25/ 30 k car thats the problem

[@nicolamatteogiani2964]

Even with what looks like an underwhelming car to review, the video quality, the journalism within and the storytelling are always compelling. Looking forward to see what happen in The Intercooler too. And looking forward to the GT3 drive!

[@g00dfeeling]

Très chouette!

[@boymcfacto5832]

À mon avis c’est meh

[@johannesbrouwer8447]

BMW i8 features a 1.5L 3-cyl motor for the comparison

[@firefox39693]

I'm watching this from Canada, and I gotta way, I envy people in the EU, UK, Suisse, and Norway.

[@bruceh92]

This car would cost a ton in Canada. No thanks.

[@firefox39693]

@@bruceh92 It would cost less in Canada because we have little to no taxes on cars here, only sales taxes.

[@bruceh92]

@@firefox39693 yeah much higher sales tax than the U.S. Waaaaay overpriced.

[@firefox39693]

@@bruceh92 That's relative. We have higher taxes than the US, generally, because the US's taxes are too low, not because Canada's taxes are too high.

[@bruceh92]

@@firefox39693 Landon you are a Liberal 100% to believe we are not overtaxed in Canada. Holy crap.

[@arkk1231]

I AM LOOKING FOR 508 COUPE & CABRIOLET

[@zeldadahedgehog]

as an American, this is the car i BADLY want as my daily driver but cant have thanks Stellantis

[@Gabrieltamdesign]

The 508 or the Volvo V60 T8 Polestar?

[@marieaudreyduchamp8839]

neither to be honest ... I'd take a 340i

[@bighands69]

@@marieaudreyduchamp8839 340i does not have as much design quality as the French or Swedish do.

[@marieaudreyduchamp8839]

@@bighands69 very true ... depends what your priorities are. When you drive a car, you don’t see how good or bad looking it is :-)

[@Gabrieltamdesign]

@@marieaudreyduchamp8839 yes I forgot about the BMW, but to be fair you would need to compare the 330e Touring with the 508 PSE and V60 T8.

[@nathanhagerman9928]

Will these be coming to America anytime soon?

[@augustortiz]

Highly unlikely.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

No

[@kevinwilliams1421]

Would you want it

[@Kylirr]

@@creamwobbly 🤔

[@nathanhagerman9928]

@@kevinwilliams1421 probably not, but it'd be cool to see Peugeot cars in America

[@huahe3995]

beautiful car

[@JEmmertz]

I'm perfectly happy with the regular 508 GT. It is bloody fun to ride, but for all those extra cash, I better spend it on optimizing the engine and the automatic gear train. It will cost less, and I'll get roughly the same amount of bhp out of it. On top of that, it will use less fuel and shift gears at far better timing than currently. Ok, I won't be able to ride ECO-friendly but you can't have it all.

[@peterclifton6312]

Peugeot have always gone with funky looking interiors to a cars but the sticking point would be that’s a large chunk of change for a Peugeot

[@bighands69]

Peugeot has the ability to produce luxury cars as does Citroën. The French has some of the best luxury designers there are out there. Italians are the same. if both countries got their acts together they could dominate the auto market. They have the design flare to pull it off. Look at what Volvo is doing with their cars.

[@henryhol8538]

I love the new Peugeots! My last Daily driver was the 308 GT Line, and that suited me fine. Brilliant Sport button.

[@sleepingwarrior4618]

I hope the radio is better than previous models. It just isn't powerful enough.

[@AR-zr1om]

Surely this would have been better if they ditched the front electric motor and swapped the 200ps 1.6 with the 270ps 1.6 itd bridge that gap a bit and would be a bit lighter

[@lok687]

wel they had a 500hp drivetrain from the 308R concept. But the new emmision rules killed of the 1.6 with 270hp. They also use a 113 hp electric engine instead of a 200hp one like the concept

[@AR-zr1om]

@@lok687 I remember that concept! Was sick, I’m not bad mouthing this car it looks epic I love hybrids and electric performance, would take a fast estate over an SUV any day I just think the weight to performance and price of this make it a hard sell when for the price you could buy a S4 avant, M340i or M340d at the same cost

[@lok687]

@@AR-zr1om Oh, i dont mind if you would bad mouth it. I loved the concept of it but at this kind of power level/price its kind of in the middle of nowhere it loses to anything you would compare it to. Unless you are realy into the styling (wich i am) but i dont think that alone is worth the premium

[@nucnik]

I like how @1:18 you can see the poor fit of the boot / trunk against the rear lights. And then he mentions factory stickers peeling. Classic Peugeot!

[@morosanucatalin3362]

My opinion is that a BMW M340i Station Wagon is much more appealing , especially giving the fact that they are in a similar price range.

[@MrMarkcoopers]

Am I missing something here, Merc C300e estate and BM 330e touring........both considerably cheaper and arguably as good to look at?

[@salvofarnia8046]

An alternative to tutonic cars, i have always avoided german cars because they are commont and a bit dull. I dont like french motors either lol

[@bighands69]

@Mark Jackson The Mercedes and BMW cars are not better looking cars they may have a history of producing nice luxury cars but they are not as nice to look at.

[@josephhardwicke6344]

That's just incorrect. This is the good looking car in the segment.

[@8Hshan]

And considerably less powerful. But yeah, this one is expensive.

[@NiTeHaWKnz]

Great video as always, but I'd rather get have Taycan Cross Turismo.

[@AntoniusTyas]

People who shops for 508 would never consider a Taycan. Similarly, those who are looking for Taycan wouldn't even look for a 508 as a daily driver. Two different market places.

[@ApothecaryTerry]

I'd rather have a McLaren F1 than my Cayman. You're talking about something MUCH more expensive, not really a useful comparison.

[@t1995roger10]

That is a good looking car!

[@schmoosmith]

I agree although the green accents look daft. I'd be wrapping them if I had one and taking off the 508 badge on the front.

[@neilcollins5930]

Another interesting video . Love the concept but its too expensive, best to wait a year and buy used it’ll drop like a stone . At 32-33k its a good buy . Ill wait for the GolfR Estate .

[@bighands69]

The price is not the issue with that car. It simply will not appeal to the target audience with the small 1.6 litre engine because with that engine it will not have the desired luxury feel. While it might be sporty and fast it will simply not appeal. If they created that package in a Coupe car that was marketed as a sports car it may appeal to the buyers. BMW and Audi now dominate that segment of the market when in the past it used to be Citroën, Peugeot, Opel and Vauxhall.

[@neilcollins5930]

@@bighands69 i think the price plays a major part ...frogmobiles have never been 50+ k and are more susceptible to huge depreciation historically . Lots of manufactures are hiding small yet efficient engines ie Audi 30, 35, 40 ect . Design and brand image are still 90% of sales. I think Peugeot are brave launching this car but they’ve got the price tag wrong unless its a marketing ploy they never really expected to build numbers of . The look of the car and its potential performance ( which 95% of buyers never use) are very tempting i recently came out of a 520d estate which was a nightmare (9 warranty claims from brand new in 3 years) to have replaced it wouldn’t have been far off 50K.

[@bighands69]

@@neilcollins5930 We are in strange market times with European auto manufacturers being boxed in by EU regulations. It is simply a fact that European car manufacturers cannot compete with Asian manufacturers on price. PSA group has a decision to make and clearly they are setting out their stall in they want to get back into the luxury segment of the market that they used to be in. Cheaper lower quality cars simply is a difficult market for European manufacturers to be in. At one point Citroen and Peugeot were on a par with the likes of Audi. Price does not matter when they are aiming for the luxury market as Volvo have already shown by their switch. The issue with this estate is the fact it is a performance car with a 1.6 litre engine which would be fine in a smaller luxury coupe but not a larger executive family sized car. The performance of this car will not appeal to European middle class who will be buying the car on finance and keeping for several years as a luxury car. manufacturers

[@neilcollins5930]

@@bighands69 Stellantis the owner of Peugeot collectively sold 4.3 million cars in 2019 , 2020 will have shown a drop however the collective power of the group with its massive data will show them what is worth making . I still believe the 508 SW Sport is aimed at the 30-35 year old family group with high combined family income , however i still believe its too expensive for the majority of this sector . This group are completely relaxed with all forms of tech and will relish the fact that a 1.6 litre engine powers the car. Older people are now some of the biggest purchasers of EV’s.

[@PoggiiBonsii]

who knows perhaps I will see one, one day

[@mudemmeonick]

As usual Peugeot marketeers had to be sniffing some glue before setting prices. "Know your damn place, trash." Nice looking cars right now. Ridiculous prices. Decent review with a proper car journalist ending.

[@bighands69]

The price is not the problem it is a luxury car the issue is the choice of engine. At one point the likes of Audi could not hold a candle to Citroën and they were considered overpriced. At some point Peugeot and the French manufacturers have to start producing executive luxury cars again and this is not the time to try.

[@dado380]

They forgot to mention the most mythic sport Pug of them all T16.

[@shorey66]

These are now available used with only a couple of thousand miles for 40k

[@RichMantaray]

nor it needs a nice 4.2 Audi RS6 engine in it :P my 3.0v6 is getting old now still sounds nice only 55 left ! in UK

[@stefanc4873]

Perfect for getting the kids to school 👍

[@Horse6L]

This would make an great Chrysler

[@richarddutchholland4780]

Surly they can’t sell many at this cost?

[@dantonchat71]

508 PSE was only a concept in Geneva few years ago. People were crying for Peugeot to make it a reality. Sadly there is only so much Peugeot can do. With infinite money I'm sure Peugeot sport would have loved to develop a more powerful engine !

[@shogun2215]

Fantastic looking car, decent amount of power, really handsome looking interior. I'm sold, far better than the equivalent German estate.

[@papa_pt]

lmao this drives like garbage compared to something like a M340i Touring. Is heavier, and probably even less reliable with that 1.6 😂