🚨NEW Predator 212cc Ghost👻 Racing Kart Engine - Harbor Freight Ghost 👻 Engine

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Today we unbox and take a first look at the new Harbor Freight Predator 212cc Ghost 👻 racing kart engine. This is a box stock style racing engine for an asphalt racing kart. The new Ghost has a 6000 rpm digital governor, heavy valve springs, top plate, and VM22 round slide carb. The engine will not come with an air filter, exhaust, gas tank out of the box. We put the engine on our trail master mini bike for a first test ride. Let us know what you think and don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more!!!
~Parts For This Engine~
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10" Gas Tank - bit.ly/3fwUaUV
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Juggernaut Pulley - bit.ly/3aAl355
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Racing Clutch - bit.ly/2HXseYN
10T Clutch - bit.ly/3KDq3bx
Pulse Fuel Pump - bit.ly/384spfl
Engine Mount - bit.ly/2vcw1ic
Side Cover Gasket - bit.ly/38PI1JX
Valve Cover Gasket - bit.ly/3E4hDY6
Fire Ring Head Gasket - bit.ly/3E85YHL
.010 Head Gasket - bit.ly/3xniwJR
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Super Pipe Exhaust - bit.ly/3BlKqoz
Trailmaster MB200 Mini Bike - bit.ly/2OutchV
Stage 4 Head - bit.ly/2RiYBWK
Billet Rod - bit.ly/2Jr5HVm
Billet Flywheel - bit.ly/3scRGAg
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Fire 265 Cam - bit.ly/3HwY9MH
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@robertcape4653
@robertcape4653 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea when these will be available for purchase
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
In the next week or so.
@robertcape4653
@robertcape4653 2 жыл бұрын
Nice might pick one uo myself and see how she does on the old manco 405
@taylorg223
@taylorg223 2 жыл бұрын
at my harbor freight
@rickburnout666
@rickburnout666 2 жыл бұрын
These will be used for racing with engine rules mainly, everybody else will be better off using something with a bit nore grunt
@anthonyt2955
@anthonyt2955 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickburnout666 remember not everyone wants to take on removing the “guvnah” or the flywheel. So for that person who wants something that’s peppier than ya average pressure washer motor, but don’t wanna get their hands dirty, @300 … shooot mang, sounds like it’s perfect. My man from E.T. Is right, this is targeted @ dudes racing stock circuit classes with motors like briggs and stuff. This motor cuts them Wisconsin boys down by more than half on price point. It certainly ain’t for guys like us, where very simple mods will make a 224 scoooooooot.
@AviewFromUnder
@AviewFromUnder Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder to some of your younger viewers. The sheet metal coming around the fins on the block and head is there to form a cooling cowling. Too many young minibike hobbyist think the is optional heat shield. Not the case, this sheet metal is there to keep the flywheel fan air moving in-between the fins for proper cooling. If you remove this sheet metal the fan pushed air will not stay in between the fins and the engine can over heat.
@TheShangralaaaa17
@TheShangralaaaa17 Жыл бұрын
I've removed that shroud on every single predator I've built. not once have I had cooling issues
@pyrohitterz3978
@pyrohitterz3978 8 ай бұрын
​@@TheShangralaaaa17😊
@ajmontgomery4564
@ajmontgomery4564 Ай бұрын
You have to remove it for TC install
@sabinshreve5496
@sabinshreve5496 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all that you do. Really clear specs up, humorous, and factual. I bought one of these engines and mated it with my old Carter go-kart frame. It rips, yes. Reliable. No complaints at all. Diving into valve springs, push rods, connecting rods, flywheels and billet side cover. All to upgrade to a live axel and hydraulic disc brakes,
@ezmac622
@ezmac622 2 жыл бұрын
I went with the Tillotson 212, billet rod and flywheel, gov removed, hot 265 cam, 22lb springs, TCT mechanical fuel injection, mb200 super pipe...built my own frame and forks from square tube ;)
@heavystarch100
@heavystarch100 2 жыл бұрын
I like Tillotson also. This motor is 300 bucks.
@supliconqui6193
@supliconqui6193 2 жыл бұрын
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@supliconqui6193
@supliconqui6193 2 жыл бұрын
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@supliconqui6193
@supliconqui6193 2 жыл бұрын
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@supliconqui6193
@supliconqui6193 2 жыл бұрын
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@JoshFordFBR
@JoshFordFBR 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as this is available at my local Habor Freight, I’m snagging one. I believe this is the next wave of box stock karting classes.
@igokarts4510
@igokarts4510 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@bryanwesley5410
@bryanwesley5410 2 жыл бұрын
Provide they are built to quality controlled specs. If they are built anything like the predators we are used to seeing we will be pulling our hair out in the tech shed and pisses a lot of people off. LOL
@cravenmoorehead5636
@cravenmoorehead5636 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanwesley5410 they are bought at harbor freight fellas. Dont expect to much in the way of specs. They will be all over the place.
@markreleford3584
@markreleford3584 2 жыл бұрын
Tillotson did this couple years ago lol predator is late
@ReactorFour
@ReactorFour 2 жыл бұрын
This will never be raced widely. The Briggs 206 is locked and they have very good parity. These HF engines have neither and therefore would need blueprinted…. And no one wants to go back to the money burning process of blueprinting. The secret sauce to making LO206 racing affordable is the lock on the block. I wouldn’t race this engine if I got 10 for free, it would still be way too expensive.
@tophernuttle420
@tophernuttle420 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever did the edits when Eric was opening the box is on point!! That audio made me laugh hard..Great stuff.. I almost looked over my shoulder for a ninja or something...Lordt
@jesse1136
@jesse1136 2 жыл бұрын
The reason for classes in karting is for a level playing field. This engine is slightly above base model 212, with a better starting platform for mods, but that's not the role it's made to fill. It's geared toward racing out of the box and it will be a standard format to build more affordable karting leagues around. I'm glad to see it, and hoping that this will open up the kart racing world to more people who cant afford (or don't know about) LO206/Animal/WF racing leagues.
@davidhodge0201
@davidhodge0201 2 жыл бұрын
That was the idea behind converting to the clone from the Briggs flathead. More affordable. More available, and level (ish) playing field. By the time I got out of kart racing it was over 1000 usd for a good Honda clone that could compete at the top. It has merely replaced the Briggs flathead at this point as far as being super expensive to be competitive (outside of local track amateur classes). Man I miss it but the amount of work that goes into being competitive in kart racing is crazy. Got burned out on it. A race car is cheaper, easier to maintain and from my experience alot less work. Lol.
@outcome2715
@outcome2715 5 ай бұрын
Base 212 in my opinion is better , don’t gotta worry about restriction on mods like flywheels and losing your higher rev limit. The ghost is more for people who just want to buy a “race engine” then spend another 2-300$ on a kit of plug and play accessories to complete it 😂 don’t get me wrong to each their own but I feel like if your gonna get into something you need to learn it
@dellstudio10
@dellstudio10 2 жыл бұрын
Shoot, I’d buy one. Perfect for a guy like me that wants a high reving engine right out of the box with a little power over stock without having to swap any parts. Just bolt it up and go have fun.
@supliconqui6193
@supliconqui6193 2 жыл бұрын
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@jmangus83
@jmangus83 2 жыл бұрын
So go with a tillotson 212r or a ducar 212. Both of those are around $220-240, both are around 5300-5500 governed rpm out of the box, and the ducar even has a pvl flywheel rated for 17000 rpm
@562jamesj
@562jamesj 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmangus83 212R has a nice BSP aluminum flywheel that’s way better than any cast wheel it can don8k easy
@dylanjones1286
@dylanjones1286 2 жыл бұрын
Said just like someone sponsored 😂
@dustingeorge8532
@dustingeorge8532 7 ай бұрын
​@jmangus83 funny you say that, i ran about 6 hours one day and it blew up😂
@DarkCornerGarage
@DarkCornerGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the last engine I built was a EC Carbs 236cc Tilly stroker. There is just no going back from there. Such a torque monster. But also almost three times total $ for the build.
@motorizedbikesar7000
@motorizedbikesar7000 2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely buy one... It's an excellent platform for beginners
@Everlastandgreen
@Everlastandgreen 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going 60mph right out of the box. I would buy this engine again!!!
@Roach4two0
@Roach4two0 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@Everlastandgreen
@Everlastandgreen Жыл бұрын
@Roach4two0 Nah fr. I'm literally on the highway with it. I took off the jackshaft and increases the clutch teeth and I'm doing like 70mph or 80mph. Then again it's like $300 so idk
@slowasschevy3000
@slowasschevy3000 Жыл бұрын
Shit what tooth sprocket u got on back
@ih8france359
@ih8france359 6 ай бұрын
​@@EverlastandgreenYou still alive?
@Everlastandgreen
@Everlastandgreen 6 ай бұрын
@@slowasschevy3000 stock
@jeffreystone7327
@jeffreystone7327 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you. I’m a new subscriber and totally enjoyed this video. I’ve been involved with kart racing for 34 years now. All 2 stroke engines. I currently have a shifter kart and a grandson interested in getting in a kart. But he definitely does not need to be in my kart. I came across a video last night on the HF 212cc Ghost engine. It peaked my interest. My wife and I discussed this engine over coffee this morning. So old 64 year old Papaw ran his happy butt down to Harbor Freight and grabbed a new 212cc Ghost Engine and the accessories package. Been reading up a little today and then came across your channel this evening. I love the way you unboxed this engine. Honest opinion and no BS. I’m anxious to watch more of your videos. I feel you will help me cut down my learning curve on 4 stroke engines. I sure hope so, because I know nothing about them. I’d like to keep this stock starting out. But I did pick up on your recommendation of replacing the cast iron flywheel from the get go. Kind of curious as to the best oil, spark plug, type of clutch or torque converter that you would recommend if you don’t mind? Any and all information or options would be greatly appreciated. Can’t wait to start through your previous videos that could help me with this Ghost engine. Keep up the great video work. Totally loving your style. God bless.
@DeSNIPAmobile
@DeSNIPAmobile 2 ай бұрын
You don't know how much you just helped me just the unboxing and telling us about it rlly helped thx bro ❤
@jerrymoore1967
@jerrymoore1967 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very happy with my Tillotson 225r. And I've had everything from stock 212 to stage 4 212.
@joshporter5459
@joshporter5459 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 224 max performance engine just a couple of weeks ago, I'm glad I didn't wait to get this engine.
@jaydenbiddick4058
@jaydenbiddick4058 6 ай бұрын
Why?
@seansysig
@seansysig 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I’d buy this for my MB200. Shameful RBG running the engine without an air filter!
@brianbugher5156
@brianbugher5156 2 жыл бұрын
Love the red beer to garage I’ve missed a couple episodes but I’m getting caught up this motor would be good on my sons go kart run around the yard in
@brianbugher5156
@brianbugher5156 2 жыл бұрын
@@textme739 scam
@davidtappe5337
@davidtappe5337 2 жыл бұрын
Red Beard, Been with you for years, since the humble beginnings. Love your channel, family and thanks for keeping it classy.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sticking around!
@donaldhalls2189
@donaldhalls2189 2 жыл бұрын
Seems to be a good little motor for small cart not to badly priced, all the best to you all
@starpuss
@starpuss 2 жыл бұрын
@ that price point it's a GREAT deal for anyone who doesn't know how to build a engine~!
@sonjajohnstone5452
@sonjajohnstone5452 2 жыл бұрын
Use that top fill port to draw the fuel pump pulse. Screw in adapters are available that the Briggs LO206 uses.
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.I wondered why it was there,especially with that type of screening.
@nickclashez
@nickclashez 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be a buyer but good for a beginners for sure !
@charlesgraham9954
@charlesgraham9954 2 жыл бұрын
Personally id buy both. one, to see if i could do better. two, for the ease of it.
@davemiller262
@davemiller262 2 жыл бұрын
i love the back and forth with mrs redbeard. yall are adorable
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
We have a good time lol
@Davethreshold
@Davethreshold 2 жыл бұрын
Nice looking engine! Subscribed! Back in the day, I had a Mac. 75 2-cycle, with dual carbs, stuffer manifold, 12:1 comp. head gasket. I had it on a Flexo Big Bear, (TINY) minibike. 6,000 RPM Centrifugal clutch. That thing hauled ass. 0-60 in about 6 seconds. but that was its peak because of a 10-1 chain gear ratio. Great video. I felt like I was taking it apart!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you!
@kwatt-engineer796
@kwatt-engineer796 2 жыл бұрын
First impression, I you want an engine for a "one design" class With more power than the box stock 212, it looks like a good deal. But, if you want to have free license to massage a 212 , with no class limits, the stock 212 looks like the better choice . Then you could start with the 24 mm carb, billet flywheel, aftermarket valve springs and no governor. Plus you would add any other bits.you want. At this point you have more power than the Ghost for similar bucks. In that scenario the stock 212 makes more sense. Good video, you provide a great service to help the rest of us say abreast of developments. You mentioned a laundry list of other similar engines. Do you think it would be too much of a deep dive to compare all of these different engines strengths and weaknesses in one video. Your channel is my "go to" source for design tech on this hobby.
@KyleStrycharz
@KyleStrycharz 2 жыл бұрын
If this works with little issues (mainly the cast iron flywheel not exploding). This could replace LO206. To get on track with a 206, a turn key engine costs 1,200$.
@ediemoore3489
@ediemoore3489 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it'll be gnarly running that on something
@mlindsay527
@mlindsay527 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the weight on that flywheel. Everyone just looks at an aluminum flywheel as a safety factor and forget that the lighter flywheel helps the engine spin up faster. Really makes a performance improvement on a minibike!
@rachalhollier5679
@rachalhollier5679 2 жыл бұрын
@INBOX ME ①⑨②⓪⑥⑥③⑧⓪①① did I win a rascal with a rad engine?
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
It was a scam account. I'm working on deleting and blocking them.
@Wilson_Racing
@Wilson_Racing 2 жыл бұрын
Idk about 8k or 9k rpms but ive revved a stock 30 series driver pulley up to 7,500 rpms several times. Also, the brace for the super pipe goes BEHIND the side plate, not in front of it
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it matter if I put the tab BEHIND or in front of the plate. Still does the same thing.
@jamescrump1776
@jamescrump1776 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching you for a while please keep it up I have been learning a lot from you thanks dude
@charlesmillsaps2277
@charlesmillsaps2277 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe you didn’t put a air filter on! It sounds lean!
@rachalhollier5679
@rachalhollier5679 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, a quick chip change on a digital coil is necessary in karting, instead of an expensive B&S coil set-up that’s for sure. Who’s gonna make it? China?
@DIYWilly
@DIYWilly 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good I like the Predator racing stickers. But honestly a built regular 212 is probably better or a well built 224 with the extra stroke, both would be better financial choices for power imo. Do really like the stickers though... Great video and thanks for sharing.. I'll definitely be watching the build!
@williamstamper442
@williamstamper442 2 жыл бұрын
Got a great idea Greg! This engine with it's 6000 limiter And a 3D motorsport "manual" clutch with hand lever! While rolling thru a crowd you can pull the lever and disengage clutch then pin it for that sound you like so much!
@CODOutdoors
@CODOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Reving the Dale right out the box! Awesome video, rev limiter is super cool!
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@nathanielbarbeau4821
@nathanielbarbeau4821 2 жыл бұрын
If I was building my kids a Kart then this would be a great engine to start with.
@anthonyt2955
@anthonyt2955 2 жыл бұрын
This would be a good motor for someone who doesn’t wanna get their hands dirty … and just bolt it up to whatever style kart they have. Everyone else will just go stock 212/224 and build from there. I grabbed a 224, removed “guvnah”, slipstream billet wheel, 24mm F/S, hot265er and 22lbers … runs damn good.
@eladvanallen8282
@eladvanallen8282 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha... Love seein ol proper posture Pete doin a rip down the drive!
@christopherbelfiore709
@christopherbelfiore709 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for being so useful answer so many of my questions within 2 videos
@daneulekowski929
@daneulekowski929 2 жыл бұрын
I blew up my Briggs animal on my cart that was $800 so at $299 to play around seems like a deal. Currently have a stock 212 pred. on it and who doesn't like a little more bang.
@alexlacroix8127
@alexlacroix8127 2 жыл бұрын
The Wildcat 223 is the king of stock small blocks. I bought one delivered I paid $220. The casting [block] is almost identical to the Tillotson race blocks. Also comes with a 7 bolt sidecover. Hands down the 58mm crank is a potential monster. EC carbs designed the engine that's where I will let my comment's rest.
@mindovermatter3988
@mindovermatter3988 2 жыл бұрын
I said this a while back but I knew that Predator was trying to be in competition with the Tillotson 225 when they released the 224 knowing that Ducar is the one making the blocks seems kind of funny because Ducar Tillotson and these new Predator 2:24 and goes to 12 engine blocks are all made from Ducar. It's safe to say that they're all pretty much similar engines at that point
@mindovermatter3988
@mindovermatter3988 2 жыл бұрын
Is this legit?? Did I really win something or is this a scam
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
No it's a scam.
@mindovermatter3988
@mindovermatter3988 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedBeardsGarage appreciated
@honeybadgeractual5734
@honeybadgeractual5734 2 жыл бұрын
honestly id love for them to offer 1 CC rating, but different performance options. like start with "base" model, then include a stage 1 (better carb, better exhaust), stage 2 (carb, exhaust, flywheel, cam springs, and rod.), stage 3 (all of stage 2+ cam upgrade, and taller valve cover, heavier springs, better (dished) piston, rings, and maybe even a pumper carb or a combo velocity-pumper style, and a custom exhaust header for higher flow rates, with intake and exhaust porting.
@sincityvogel
@sincityvogel 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Tillotson for the beefed up case. Then build it for the moon.
@allensandven0
@allensandven0 2 жыл бұрын
That rev limiter is cool , I’m more concerned with me and RB being plus size a frame limiter would be more practical , if to much deflection it kills the engine and you walk back killing two birds one bone ? Lol 😂
@chrisryan5459
@chrisryan5459 Жыл бұрын
The top "oil fill" is to run the pulse pump off of they include a threaded barb that screws in there to run the pulse pump off of
@_Mailman
@_Mailman 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, PVL flywheel, swap the coil to remove governor, add a little Nitro on a light drag frame, properly geared, it would be a pretty solid budget option IMO. I don't have 3k to build an all out drag bike but this don't seem bad at all.
@pacspeed8041
@pacspeed8041 2 жыл бұрын
Got mine today. Assecory kit tomorrow. My clone engine needs rebuild so I got the ghost for my Kart
@rolandoniel8841
@rolandoniel8841 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣That Rev limit sputter hilarious.....nice video RedBeard
@fukhue8226
@fukhue8226 2 жыл бұрын
Put the bigger sprocket from the old style bikes that had a clutch instead of the torque converter. It sounds like it's geared too high for the higher revving engine. Besides, after you change the sprocket wheelies will be much better!
@isaacrivera8339
@isaacrivera8339 2 жыл бұрын
What about the upgrade kit for it
@JTMCNAIR09
@JTMCNAIR09 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Briggs WKA 5.0 HP back in late 90s from northern. To be honest the performance and top end of this motor as reasonably priced as the WKA world kart motor I bought then.
@acurarl9929
@acurarl9929 2 жыл бұрын
That top fill can become a good crank case vent.
@jenklefritz6583
@jenklefritz6583 7 ай бұрын
I bought it before I even knew what a 224 was. But I've built it up with a hot 265 cam, arc rod, arc billet flywheel, 26 pound springs, and high rev coil pack. I'm pretty satisfied with it, but I'm sure that a 224cc would've been better.
@jasonketchum4052
@jasonketchum4052 2 жыл бұрын
if i were racing karts again this could be an great option versus the Briggs especially price point wise .
@dylanzrim3635
@dylanzrim3635 2 жыл бұрын
Is it homologated? I don’t think I’d be allowed to run this competitively.
@dylanzrim3635
@dylanzrim3635 2 жыл бұрын
Would make a great motor for a completely separate practice rig though,
@efrainordonez7509
@efrainordonez7509 2 жыл бұрын
I want it!!! And I want it now!!!
@MAD450r2
@MAD450r2 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up a used predator with broken pullstarter for 30$ so im gonna buy a rod valvspring flywheel and gaskets kit. Id like to find a walk through on reasembly with torque specs for all.
@NFSINSANE
@NFSINSANE 10 ай бұрын
As a 196 clone owner, this would be the perfect upgrade. Modest, but still a ripper. And that 6k rpm limit is sweet!
@paulpinto8400
@paulpinto8400 2 жыл бұрын
Sticking to my tillitson 212E.
@paulpinto8400
@paulpinto8400 2 жыл бұрын
@@textme739 I’m not sure what you need.
@paulpinto8400
@paulpinto8400 2 жыл бұрын
@@textme739 hi. I’m your winner I think.
@paulpinto8400
@paulpinto8400 2 жыл бұрын
@@textme739 Hi. This is paul. I don’t know how this works. Help.
@joshblainer2652
@joshblainer2652 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'd go with the 224, mikuni carb, exhaust, flywheel, valve springs, cam and gov delete
@bma4203
@bma4203 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that form. Omg.
@jeremygonzales1932
@jeremygonzales1932 2 жыл бұрын
I'm brand new to minibiking/Karting and these seems dope can't wait to get my hands on one! Love the videos btw very informative and helpful!
@drewanderson8279
@drewanderson8279 2 жыл бұрын
Man I bought the tilly 225 right when it came out and it is impressive. With the juggernaut pully on it. My lil dootle bug hauls the mail. I had it on my sfd industries drift trike with just a yard kart clutch. I was able to hit 64mph ! With the drift sleeves on it. I was scooting. Lol yes the 225 was 750 or 800 bucks but it's out of the box 18hp. I dont know if I would buy the ghost. For my application. I'm looking for a new drift trike engine right now.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@CRAZEDX100
@CRAZEDX100 2 жыл бұрын
@Jesse's Kart & mini bike the tillotson 212 is 10hp out of the box compared to the 6.5 hp from the predator 212. Plus the tillotson has the reinforced ducar block and 10k rpm rated flywheel stock. I picked up a new ghost to check it out but Tillotson is superior
@MineZilla123
@MineZilla123 2 жыл бұрын
@Jesse's Kart & mini bike lol your the only one who thinks the harbor freight block is a higher quality 🤣 😂
@stevieray1828
@stevieray1828 2 жыл бұрын
@Jesse's Kart & mini bike let us know how it goes for you
@garymorel1882
@garymorel1882 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious out of all those motors you just named which would you recommend for a reliability and which would you recommend for most power
@heatvision21
@heatvision21 2 жыл бұрын
Predator should add a seal tag to the block like briggs to encourage the karting community to build around this. break the seal if you want to do mods but it would be great for a spec series like how briggs handles lo206
@ReactorFour
@ReactorFour 2 жыл бұрын
I agree theoretically but the problem with this on this engine is the variability that comes with a cheap Chinese engine. People would buy 20 and race the fast one or they wouldn’t and most likely just lose. That sort of defeats the cost savings of a locked block crate motor. The Briggs are really close so you buy one and can win… and run it for several years with no blueprint and only touching up the valves once or twice a year.
@Jesse_Jessie_James
@Jesse_Jessie_James 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda what my youngest son's best friend has on his go cart. And it's freaking fast top speed is like 53 miles a hour. And with me on it top speed is like 49 miles a hour. Lucky the gas and brake are on the steering wheel.
@keithcola3906
@keithcola3906 2 жыл бұрын
Ok getting this! Wasn't sold on the 224 but this I like!👍🏾
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
This is a rip off for $300. The same carb and pipe on a 224 would make more power.
@puddlerat
@puddlerat 2 жыл бұрын
Im sticking with tilloston love my engine…. And because y’all and cars and camera made me look into it I realized that go fast parts dont cost much more then literally everything else I spent so give it a month I’ll probably have a carb, flywheel, cam, etc
@Backwoodsairguns
@Backwoodsairguns 2 жыл бұрын
I think I like it a lot especially for a pit bike at the off-road park or around the yard to make ppl smile
@nepaoutdoors8536
@nepaoutdoors8536 2 жыл бұрын
That engine is sick it literally sounds like a dirtbike engine
@srcobra50
@srcobra50 2 жыл бұрын
Would definitely get one still. The price point is good imo. The cam is probably something similar to a cl1 high torque cam. So probably just a little more duration than stock. Great video red, was eager for this one .
@williamstamper442
@williamstamper442 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt they put that much profile or technology into this cam. Just sayin'.
@srcobra50
@srcobra50 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamstamper442 I doubt it too I just saying might be something similar since red was wondering about it.
@williamstamper442
@williamstamper442 2 жыл бұрын
@@srcobra50 Saul I don't disagree...the cam can probably support 16-18hp as is. It's just that the cam is where ALOT of power is left on the table with these small blocks
@williamstamper442
@williamstamper442 2 жыл бұрын
@@srcobra50 on one of my drag mini's I'm running a secret grind from NR racing in a 212 hemi and 22lb single springs. This cam's lobes are darned near square! This thing makes a ton of power and torque all the way across the rpm range, say 2500 up to about 7100. Had to grind the block quite a bit for lobe clearance. Call them up and ask for their 212 hemi cheater cam and they will know what you are talking about.
@mmckenzie3627
@mmckenzie3627 2 жыл бұрын
tillotson 212e or ducar 212, both cheaper, both 212 hemi. with the ducar 212 you get a pvl flywheel.
@denniskoop8018
@denniskoop8018 2 жыл бұрын
What is a “pvl” flywheel ? Never heard that term.
@mmckenzie3627
@mmckenzie3627 2 жыл бұрын
@@denniskoop8018 die cast aluminum. steel hub, balanced
@joshuaarch1089
@joshuaarch1089 2 жыл бұрын
@@denniskoop8018 wow. Google is your friend bud
@denniskoop8018
@denniskoop8018 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaarch1089 wow just asked a simple question.
@denniskoop8018
@denniskoop8018 2 жыл бұрын
@@textme739 Hi Greg ! Never won anything before, not even a lottery ticket 🤣. I hope this is how a inbox message works.
@spencerbrown3140
@spencerbrown3140 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the wow mister your really strong? Lol
@rcaddictgarage
@rcaddictgarage 2 жыл бұрын
$199-$249 would have been a better price point for this.
@jasonmares5171
@jasonmares5171 2 жыл бұрын
But for a person that may not be the most handy, if it's staged up out of the box, nothing else to purchase, nothing to assemble internally, The price seems decent as you would spend 149 for a 212 and 100 to make it a stage 1. Plus Red Beard feeling it has upgraded valve springs. My questions is yes, how do you hook up a pulse without tapping the case. And what's in the accessories kit
@williamstamper442
@williamstamper442 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same
@T..C..M
@T..C..M 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmares5171 loctite a brass tube into the spot where the governor shaft would be or epoxy a brass tube into the top oil fill plug, drill the plastic cap and pop the 3/16” brass tube into it.
@teslamodhammer
@teslamodhammer 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmares5171 lol spend more remain stupid hahaha
@michaelhuddleston4220
@michaelhuddleston4220 2 жыл бұрын
300$ seems good to me they will be 600$ next year and milk will be 10$ a gallon
@boisebadboy93
@boisebadboy93 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine putting this on a Manco, Yerf, or a Murray for the purpose of offroading and trailing. I wonder what it would do to the factory jackshaft or a bolt on TC if anything?
@shanehathaway2791
@shanehathaway2791 2 жыл бұрын
Will guys I really like the 224cc and would get the 212cc Ghost… I’ve got a 208cc 7hp DuroMax lots of power yes sir…. And I’m trying to figure out what to put the 420cc 16hp DuroMax engine on it’s a little Monster… So yeah I’d like to try the new predator engine… Thanks for review on them… Shane….
@dhippstarr
@dhippstarr 2 жыл бұрын
I knew that you would have one first. I just waited for you to answer the questions.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dhippstarr
@dhippstarr 2 жыл бұрын
@@RedBeardsGarage if you get a chance check out my 240cc small block parts engine. I enjoy your content greatly
@mity2
@mity2 Жыл бұрын
Im thinking buying this for my Murray Go kart built. Im running 198cc stock right now, so Id imagine this would be HUGE bump in performance.
@ToddS662
@ToddS662 2 жыл бұрын
Thought I was having eye problems when I saw your shirt.
@RedBeardsGarage
@RedBeardsGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Mrs. RB said the same thing when she was filming. lol
@steveroach4282
@steveroach4282 2 жыл бұрын
I would buy to start out !!! Then start to build up up with higher rpms !!!! & Hotter cam & more porting & valve work when available parts is there for it !!!!
@2strokesimdone833
@2strokesimdone833 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how they got the epa to sign off on that. Guess it's exempt because it's specifically for racing.
@heavystarch100
@heavystarch100 2 жыл бұрын
They have a tag saying its not be used on any street application.
@adamconnell5965
@adamconnell5965 2 жыл бұрын
Technically it isn't a complete running engine...
@timothywalsh1001
@timothywalsh1001 2 жыл бұрын
Look into "crate engine".. Chevrolet just introduced a 632ci that makes 1000hp.
@billsimmons2898
@billsimmons2898 Жыл бұрын
i know it is a small point, but you did not show the hook ups for the linkages, what got bypassed on putting it into the bike. great job..!
@FPSG
@FPSG 2 жыл бұрын
Genuine comet torque converters are tunable. They sell light weights and different sets of springs so you can set the stall. They use the real ones on 2 strokes so 10k rpm is doable one a real comet.
@focustuner10
@focustuner10 2 жыл бұрын
I like to wrench on stuff so I would buy the good ol' fashioned 212 and then build it up. That is a neat engine though, good for someone that wants to just bolt on a engine with more power.
@hankhill5860
@hankhill5860 2 жыл бұрын
That screen at the top fill is to keep oil from splashing up when you install your fuel pump pulse vacuum
@christiansanchez1486
@christiansanchez1486 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this new 212 looks pretty sick it’ll defiantly be a big upgrade to my my tiny 66cc 2 stroke lol
@jaysunkreuze1466
@jaysunkreuze1466 2 жыл бұрын
224 for me. It's all about torque. Add a billet flywheel, springs, and delete the governor for twice the engine and around the same cost as the ghost. Personally I think the ghost is not worth the money for what it does. If it had a billet flywheel then it would be tempting. Even so, it should have came with a 24mm carb. Just because they market it as a racing engine doesn't mean it's the better choice. This engine is for the dude who just needs something running at a little higher performance out of the box. It's not an engine for the guy who wants to make upgrades.
@davetaylor5784
@davetaylor5784 2 жыл бұрын
personally I think I would go with the tilly 212 it makes more hp and can be ordered with flywheel cam and carb upgrades if it was a option but if its a class restriction to the g212 because some classes say predator
@craigmoorhouse17
@craigmoorhouse17 2 жыл бұрын
We normally use a pz26 with a flared pipe. great carbs the pz's
@4687878
@4687878 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 228cc Tilly race engine from EC Carburetors still in the box for a year and a half waiting for the opportunity to put it on my frame and figure out which gas tank to get !!! The ghost engine doesn't have great specs ...and looks like it was slow for all the hype !!!
@toadjamaicanbobsled580
@toadjamaicanbobsled580 2 жыл бұрын
Karting is the start of a lifetime of
@toadjamaicanbobsled580
@toadjamaicanbobsled580 2 жыл бұрын
Phun
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you would have measured cam lift for us while the side cover was off. And you could usually tell by the lobe profile if it has more duration. If they are using stock compression this engine can't be anything special as is.
@PumpkinKingXXIII
@PumpkinKingXXIII 2 жыл бұрын
I wish harbor freight would weld up a cheap race chassis.i don't want to race but I like a low on the ground go cart. Not a fan of yard carts but don't want to pay 3k for a sitting low true race chassis
@MrTbone1113
@MrTbone1113 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be cheap price wise though, just cheap materials that easily break...
@ninoreeves7702
@ninoreeves7702 2 жыл бұрын
i like the carb set up. no linkage. but for me i would get a better flywheel.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Figured it would end up being a bit of a disappointment engine for backyard builders. Removing gov free, gov coil replacement not free and all. Track engines get teched and confiscated. Cheaper the better for box stock.
@igokarts4510
@igokarts4510 2 жыл бұрын
Where have you been??? We miss you going fast
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
@@igokarts4510 thanks! Appreciate it! Just been in and out of hospitals and recovery. Keep having strokes. Can walk again, stairs still troubled but face no longer drooping. Might have to bring back the helmet 😆 hope you're well and have a great day! Life is amazing!
@igokarts4510
@igokarts4510 2 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast I'll keep you in my thoughts. Get well soon!
@thinkingmanhillbilly
@thinkingmanhillbilly 2 жыл бұрын
You should put a air cleaner on it though.
@pineappleboi27
@pineappleboi27 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it will fit in a Honda Navi. At least to get it up to 65 for bigger highway headroom🤔
@jasonmagee2921
@jasonmagee2921 2 жыл бұрын
AS YOU SAID BEFORE , BIGGEN: ONE STILL HAS TO BUY AND, UPGRADE A LOT TO GET SOME GREAT OUTPUT!
@cravenmoorehead5636
@cravenmoorehead5636 2 жыл бұрын
So now for the big kids in the group! Any chance you can do an actual tear down, and spec comparison? What's the springs, cam, ect. Thanks.
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