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[@rossmanngroup]

4:18 This is so spot on. For ten years, every time I post a video with technical content or repairing something, I will lose two to three hundred subscribers the day that I post it. It will get three percent the viewership of other content. Yet people will still scream that they missed the days of me posting it. What people do and what people say are so very different and separate from one another. was a pleasure to be mentioned on your program. Have a lovely rest of your day!

[@ThePrimeTimeagen]

Hey! I love what you are doing and am excited about the keyboard. And on the technical content. I have tried so many many many times to go it right and I don't believe it exists. This is my attempt at creating technical content. People will watch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZecpZWniK6gY6csi=sQQ3Wq_DROyJyYEN We go over some pretty intense algorithms but I disguise it as an entertainment video

[@Muskar2]

Comments are a tiny minority of viewers, and not representative. You don't have to assume it's lies for the opinions to not represent a large audience. E.g. I love _some_ technical or educational content, but mostly use it for entertainment and breaks. Largely because the best educational content is very hard to find - and I had more success finding it through paid courses. KZbin also cares _a lot_ about the format. There's always a way to cater better to the target audience. And a technical audience is not equal to an audience of light entertainment for techies. Some people are there for your persona, but that dynamic works differently for technical content etc. Speak to other creators who do it well

[@ttt01101]

@@ThePrimeTimeagen Hey, exclamation point.

[@Dan-u1l]

​@@Muskar2If you love something then you would engage with it, and if you don't then that means you lied. If I loved apple pie and I kept bothering someone to make apple pie for me, if they made the pie and I then didn't eat it, I lied. Lots of people (different people in the case of comments and messages) would say they want that content but won't watch the content. If the same amount of people who wanted that content engaged with it then creators would make more of it.

[@Muskar2]

@@Dan-u1l Lies obviously happen. That's entirely besides the point when talking about audience aggregates. My point is you can't make assumptions that just because you know how to cater to one kind of audience, that it means you know how to cater to another. It's easy to make assumptions about the audience, and blame other factors when your content doesn't do well. But creators like 3Blue1Brown, Veritasium and Computerphile show that you can get an audience if you do it right (and they're not necessarily doing it optimally either). You're right that some things are inherently more niche than others, but a lot of evidence shows that if you make great content for a subject, it's not a zero-sum game, because a lot of desired content simply doesn't exist. When you're not the biggest (nor trying to be) creator in that subject, you can't make assumptions about audiences like that. Unless you're honestly thinking it'll be too much work to make it in another subject, and sensibly don't want to spread yourself thin. It's always safest to assume that the content is the problem.

[@maddada]

Rossmann is the best. Loved his response to mkbhd's interview with Apple about repair.

[@TragicGFuel]

Apple is like the pioneer of making everything closed and rigid.

[@neoqueto]

Rossmann is the least filtered and the most no bullshit person on Earth.

[@MorningNapalm]

You missed the two n part of his speech though :)

[@maddada]

@@MorningNapalm haha fixed it before he sees it

[@porterhouse937]

Which was filled with anecdotal “facts” solely based on his experience as a repair tech.

[@ashketchum6139]

PrimeTime said: "One less vector of people spying on me." KZbin auto subtitles said: "One less vector of people buying on me" 💀

[@ossman11]

When he was talking about using neovim, but also installed Copilot into his neovim.

[@mr.k8660]

Coincidence? I think not

[@vidal9747]

​@@ossman11Does he still uses it?

[@joni062443]

@@vidal9747 nope. ditched a while ago.

[@4bSix86f61]

@pungus7 Google AI is actually against Google.

[@Altrue]

I don't always agree with Rossman, but he fights the good fight, and is very articulate. What's not to love? Edit: I used to watch him a lot, I like his takes, but his style not always. He has a way of being a bit too convoluted (or maybe repetitive?) + presenting things without any room for self doubt or self reflection. It does not create a climate that encourages discussion, only agreement. Writing this, I realize the pressure from people who immediately wanted me to justify myself about specifically what I disliked. Such defensive suspicion is actually quite telling haha😅 But just to be clear, "I don't always agree" here does mean "mostly agree". I have no noteworthy complaints about the guy.

[@TragicGFuel]

What did you not agree with? I'm curious because I feel like there's very little to disagree with him about, when it comes to tech atleast

[@moussaadem7933]

What would you disagree with him on ?

[@GameOn0827]

Same, I agree consumers are not being protected in the way they should, I disagree that that means we are now morally obligated to pirate/steal/block whatever we please.

[@ultimatemacchia]

@@GameOn0827 if only he didn't made an entire video addressing the fact that it's not what he meant...

[@hatyyy]

@@GameOn0827 only blocking is okay in every circumstance

[@xtpsxreportsx]

I think this claim that people don't want deep technical content on youtube is at odds with 3blue1brown being a successful channel. I think what people want is creative and intuitive graphical representations of technical content - not chalkboard lectures

[@rasibn]

Different audience

[@TagetesAlkesta]

I’ve watched Bartosz Milewski’s series of lectures on category theory multiple times now. Some of those videos have hundreds of thousands of views. There’s definitely an audience for in depth technical content on KZbin.

[@tablettablete186]

Just want to say that his channel is GREAT!

[@gingeral253]

I love 3B1B. His content is amazing even if I have to rewatch it 5 times. Actually it’s good enough to rewatch 10 times.

[@asd121asd]

Or stuff from Andrej Karpathy on AI - super deep, hands on and quite popular. Not on MrBeast levels popular and not as easy as do a bunch of reactions, but still. It's just different audiences prefer different things, I guess. I wouldn't call Lex Fridman podcast technical, but it's quite deep and thoughtful, such that watching through those hours takes like a full day sometimes. Purely because you'd stop and think

[@VinceOfAllTrades]

I'd enjoy more Rossmann coverage. He can be longwinded, but he's incredibly passionate about Right to Ownership and Right to Repair. His views on adblock and piracy are nuanced while having a very simple takeaway: Companies should be more focused on improving their products so that it's easier to pay for it than to pirate it.

[@Shadoallcaps]

When I was kid, I thought I was legally obligated to read every EULA. Learnt a lot from that misunderstanding

[@PrograError]

It's literally made to drown you.

[@TehKarmalizer]

There is no obligation to be sensible, but it is a good practice. I’ve read plenty, but some are just too damn long or exactly the disclaimers and assertion of corporate rights that you expect.

[@oskar6747]

When I was a kid, I thought those can't be legally binding. No one is going to read them and there is no way to verify it was me who clicked I agree. It could have been my cat. I still think the same. In every legal contract I have either printed it to sign and then scanned it or signed it trough some service which verifies with my bank that it is in fact me signing it electronically. Never just a wall of text with an I agree button.

[@xeqqail3546]

@@oskar6747 It really doesn't matter unless you make money out of that software "service", or it is your bank account.

[@MK-of7qw]

I always say when I click one. I Hearby dont agree. I don't think works.

[@AG-ur1lj]

I’m a Haskell guy; the only ads on my machine are monads

[@a.m.4154]

I'm a Rust guy, the only ads on my machine are the referential lifetimes I am manually specifying.

[@katie-ampersand]

@@a.m.4154 And also monads

[@vidal9747]

How many papers do you have?

[@AG-ur1lj]

@@vidal9747 so far just the one: ‘Hypothetical Implications of a Simulation That Won’t Compile.’

[@trombecher]

underrated comment

[@teluial]

It’s not the ads themselves. It’s: 1. the privacy violations to target and present them; 2. the exceptionally obnoxious, often crippling, ways they’re presented; and 3. the incentive to make them more obnoxious to drive “ad free” subscriptions. E.g., Hulu, where only the highest tier subscription has _fewer_ ads. (Granted the ads are probably more about contracts than Hulu’s own preferences.)

[@alquinn8576]

yeah, i can't even parse text on a news site when there are flashing ads all over. the alternative to adblockers is i stop reading online news

[@EpicRag]

Interesting coincident that this is the only video from ThePrimeTime that doesn’t show up in my subscription feed. KZbin really loves Rossmann.

[@drdoubleU]

yup same... I could be wrong but I feel the only people that keep up with louis are the people who constantly check his page, there was a time where even being subbed to him his videos would not get pushed

[@adrianocana2112]

Same

[@Action2me]

It showed up in my feed

[@tenebrae711]

Showed up in mine though

[@tenebrae711]

To be clear I'm also a Rossmann subscriber so maybe therefore I was recommended

[@AGentooUser]

12:10 you can de-google your phone, and ironically the easiest phones to de-google are google pixel phones

[@xNemesis_]

And even google employee use it

[@fauge7]

​@@xNemesis_ yeah I tried the keyboard, the swipe texting is just way worse than the Google One. Sure they are tracking me but it's not as bad as people make it seem.

[@AGentooUser]

@@fauge7 "it's not as bad as people make it seem" well as you saw in the video, they recorded what he was saying, also the google keyboard is a keylogger

[@MikeSW]

Will onboard Ai with the new pixels change that? Everyone seems to be moving toward persistent tracking of hardware behavior.

[@SkegAudio]

​@@MikeSWthere's no such thing as onboard AI. it shouldn't make a difference if that's your concern

[@NotGarbageLoops]

There was an ISP in South Africa some years back that wrote in their T&C's "The first person to read line will get $500 from us." Took months for someone to claim it.

[@erosdevs]

Lol really 😂 ? Cell c?

[@NotGarbageLoops]

@@erosdevs I believe it was Vox Telecom

[@NotGarbageLoops]

@@erosdevs I believe it was Vox Telecom. But not 100% sure, its many years ago

[@NotGarbageLoops]

@@erosdevs I'd tell you but KZbin keeps marking my comment as spam

[@boycefenn]

@@NotGarbageLoops the youtube automod is broken... like 30% of my comments get deleted and the vast majority of them are trivially unoffensive

[@BHBalast]

I've been using this app a 2 weeks or so, works faster than google keyboard that I have used before. I'm really suprised but that's probably just because it doesn't have as much bloat and tracking. Speach to text uses a version of whisper from ClosedAI and prediction model is an LLM with architecture similar to llama that has sth. like 40 thousand parameters. Fine tuning with user data is off by default, but when on, it fine tunes a LORA when phone is plugged in to a charger and battery is full and then uses it for better text prediction. All this info and more is in their docs.

[@bookle5829]

futo keyboard has no futa theme

[@Zubbbz]

Will be able to make your own themes soon

[@xNemesis_]

🤨🤨🤨

[@AlbertBalbastreMorte]

Literally unplayable.

[@lck0ut348]

🤔

[@niamhleeson3522]

The source is available isn't it?

[@JackDespero]

The level of control that governments and companies, especially the American government and companies, impose over the population is, in some sense, incomprehensible, as in the normal person would not grasp the depth of it. Yesterday I went back to the US and in the boarding I didn't even need to show my passport, because they had a new system of face scanning and we were all being recognized as we were approaching the door to go to the tarmac. There is something so surreal to see the side screen show your blurry face taken with what looks like a 90s webcam, but it is still able to show your passport photo, your name, etc. It was honestly scary. But this is the new normal.

[@jamess.2491]

They've had this in European airports for almost a decade

[@travisnevins4731]

US wasn't the first country to do that. Some cities in the US have tried to do facial stuff, but they cheeped out so the tech is a mix bag than any a true tracking. They pay companies for that. While in China, they have some crazy impressive/scary technology everywhere not just in the airports and it's been like that for a while, maybe even over a decade at this point. I know that US airports are still slowly implementing this facial tech, but it's not everywhere...yet. The real scary part are the companies and data gathering companies with access and control over our phones, our browsers, our news, and gods know what else that they stuffed tracking into. And the primes comment about cars is completely true. There was a lawsuit about GE and few other car companies illegally gathering data for years and selling it. We are in the dark timeline, that is at least a guarantee.

[@misarthim6538]

@@jamess.2491 You have to scan your passport.

[@TreesPlease42]

All facial data and license plate data is aggregated and tracked. We live in the panopticon.

[@SoulTransient]

Next is minority report to make transit more convenient!

[@user-fs2lz1vj5p]

primegen is keeping FUTO mainstream, very cool

[@formbi]

very uncool, they don't respect the users' freedom either

[@user-fs2lz1vj5p]

@@formbi how? in a curious way

[@formbi]

@@user-fs2lz1vj5p search for «futo/grayjay (one of the two) open source»

[@slowmanual]

I think you got the conclusion backwards. I'm more inclined to trust someone who's selling me something at a "fair" price, as opposed to someone who's trying to give me something for free, or close to it.

[@SkegAudio]

you can contribute for 10 bucks. is that a fair price?

[@yehoslavrudenco4549]

I disagree, it ignires the fact that there are multiple strategies of exploiting the customer. So, even though on case to case basis this could be true, the general conclusion that something at a fair price is better than free is false, both can scam you and/or both can be genuine (otherwise you offend people like me that genuinely are ready to help for free 😅)

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

​@@SkegAudio if the asking price is free (which it is) then any amount of money is fair, and there's nothing I like more than a FOSS project with a donation button somewhere coz I will make the effort to give money to them

[@SkegAudio]

@@ThePlayerOfGames Yeah there's an app in the Google play store that you buy as a means to support the project

[@TehKarmalizer]

@@yehoslavrudenco4549 it’s a tricky thing. People assume that because one thing is priced more than another that it must inherently be more valuable. If you think you have produced something of value, people may not appreciate it as much it deserves if it is given away.

[@airkami]

I spent 3 weeks watching a 9 hour video of deep technical content

[@howwitty]

2:12 "Terms of Conditioning" what a slip

[@rishavkumar7133]

actually these ads are the reason why so much important educational stuff is available for free heck you don't even need to go to uni for many things and that's really helpfull for people in lower income countries

[@seriouslyiknowhowtoread]

4:47 We do want it but you have to explain it like you explain opening a can to a child.

[@brianressler569]

The crossover I didn't know I needed, Prime and Rossmann in one video

[@Puddin]

Blocking an ad isn't about someone stopping someone from getting paid. It is about controlling the data into your equipment.

[@davidfrischknecht8261]

For me it's just about not wanting to see the ad.

[@nittani.]

I make ads and im sorry you have to deal with that

[@ThaitopYT]

​@@nittani.It's okay. It's not the ad itself is the problem. But how you show it (tracking, unrelated with the content, proportional to the content)

[@StarContract]

It's both + me not wanting to spend my life on ads.

[@TehKarmalizer]

It’s not even about the data for most people. They have no idea what all data is coming in or going out. People simply don’t want their attention occupied for some period of time by an unsolicited sales pitch.

[@Yous0147]

I used to have the same ethical stance on ads on the internet as you do Primegan. I kept ads on and avoided adblocking for the sake of the creators. At some point when youtube started rolling 5 ads per video, midroll and intro/outro, it began affecting me adversely, I genuinely started to feel ill and twitchy over time after watching a good couple of videos. What made the drop spill over was that apparently, when I skip an ad after 10 or so seconds, it doesn't even count towards the creator's revenue. In a way I'd argue ads have too much of a foothold on the internet and are actively ruining it and the people that consume it, there's a lot of bottom of the barrel, exploitative misinformation and sometimes downright scams being peddled. And to my knowledge much of what a youtuber/creator makes isn't even from ads even if it might be a nice cushion, rather it's from support from genuine people such as subscribers/members, donators and patreons. So you have this disproportion of having to wade through advertizer bs for so little gain, incentivising it further and giving them power to race to the bottom of running cheaper and cheaper ads with more stipulations. That isn't supporting the creator, in my book if you really consider it more deeply. It's similar to the tip culture in restaurants where most of a servers pay is subsidized in tips. I'd tip of course, because so far there isn't a great alternative, but with youtube and online there is. KZbin is entirely built around open and free content subsidized by people who really care and have the appeal, interest and pockets to keep it afloat.

[@maciejstachowski183]

Premium exists, and from what I've looked up 55% of your subscription fees go to the creators - I've definitely seen creators mentioning that Premium views give them more revenue. It's either that or the vicious circle of ad blockers causing revenue to drop, causing YT to be more aggressive with ads for the remaining people, causing more people to turn to ad blocking. (And subscriptions are fine, but if you're like me and have tens or hundreds of channels you like and want to support, even a one dollar subscription is enough to make you bankrupt).

[@user-ic6xf]

This is why I spend a lot of time working on Privacy focused open source projects.

[@YouTube_username.]

Thanks!

[@TheKrillWillRule]

This reminds me, I need to purchase the licence for my FUTO keyboard.

[@rollotomasi1832]

It's okay to feel conflicted, don't suppress that feeling, don't give up.

[@bob_kazamakis]

Counter argument for ads: look at that banner at 15:12. They are monetizing their platform in other ways. They could also pull a Wikipedia and beg for money if they needed it. I do get your point - they are probably a small team. Until there is a privacy-centric solution for ads, I will be boycotting all of the ad solutions.

[@YouTube_username.]

Ublock origin, pihole...

[@aebisdecunter]

3:49 - Rossman approves your advice

[@kiosmallwood576]

Prime is wrong about how we watch technical videos. Usually I watch it once, and then try to apply it to my work. If I have trouble then I won't re-watch the video, instead I'll look at the references in the video description, because the video is usually much higher level, or they are implementing an algorithm in javascript and I'm doing it in Python. Prime, you're doing younger developers a disservice by making such generalisations and yelling at your chat.

[@TehKarmalizer]

The point still stands that technical or rigorous content still generally does not get as many views. There is an audience for it, but it is fairly niche. Not to be conflated with non-existent.

[@lightlysc1178]

Couldn't agree more about the AdBlock take. More websites should have a donate button, and there needs to be an anti ad tracker movement so we know what websites to support.

[@maciejstachowski183]

There's significant friction to donating even a small amount, and even if you're the kind of person who would donate to websites or creators, there's only so many that you can support this way. Even one dollar subscriptions add up. Personally I'd love to see a broad tiny payment solution - the idea being that you'd top up your wallet with say, 10 or 20 dollars a month, and pay 0.5 cents to read an article without ads, or 2 cents to view a video, with a click of a button and without giving your CC details out everywhere and without transaction fees ten times higher than what you're paying. Back when crypto was in its infancy I was hoping it'll be used this way, but that didn't quite work out.

[@BuffPuffer]

Screw the advertising paradigm. If enough people block ads, then the industry will be forced to adapt to new, hopefully more-sensible forms of monetization. Using adblock is a way of saying you do not consent to current practices.

[@amoskevitz]

The NDA example is crazy, I can't imagine putting my physical signature on something without reading it...

[@ferinzz]

deep technical content. I just bookmark every CPPcon back to basics and go back to it when I'm trying to implement what they presented.

[@amoskevitz]

I love watching cppcon keynotes, and I don't even program c++

[@635574]

I use the Futo KB and the only thing worse than GBoard is the inability to search emojis (how did they fuck it up?😂) also weirdly enough the more sensitive gap between hold and slide action on the spacebar movement I didn't completely get used to since that video released.

[@benheidemann3836]

As someone who does watch a lot of deeper technical content on KZbin, you don’t need to spend 2 days watching and rewatching it. Just watch on normal speed and pause to think about things if you didn’t understand it. If you still don’t understand it, rewind 30s and rewatch. If what prime was saying were true, lectures would be pointless (no disrespect intended btw, it’s ok to be wrong).

[@DemureTrack]

I wanna take this a step further. If you’re truly interested in tech, you should be able to learn without even pausing. I use Linux and have only seen stuff on e online. After that, I remember how to use or do something

[@Kaiwizz]

The ad block ethical conandrum would not exist if the websites were keeping it at a sensible level. I grew up watching cable TV and I don't remember anyone trying to block the ads there. Yeah it's annoying but you gotta pay one way or the other. There's no free lunch in the universe.

[@gregf3021]

I'm more than happy to pay for a service I use. I'll never watch or view an ad. I find it repulsive way of monetization.

[@velocibadgery]

And this is why I pay for KZbin Premium.

[@mryellow6918]

​@@velocibadgeryI'm not paying a company for the opportunity to not send me scams every 2 minutes.

[@user-ic6xf]

I love what Rossmann and what FUTO are doing. I have been using the Keyboard and voice for over a month it has been really good.

[@blackbriarmead1966]

I first learned about this and his company after he visited my college campus during a recruitment event. So strange. I did not expect a KZbinr to be there

[@emilymarriott5927]

Fyi, ad blockers can be set up to use tracker-only lists. Vivaldi's built in ad blocker gives you the choice between trackers or trackers + ads. It sounds like you'd like an ad blocker as long as it's only blocking trackers.

[@Kenionatus]

Are there really advertising services that don't have some tracking? That seems like it would be trivially easy to defraud.

[@dronicx7974]

Years ago, I remember somehow getting into a section of the Google Now app that allowed me to hear audio recording of every single "Ok, Google" I've done. Not only that, but the audio recordings all started before the "Ok, Google" is spoken... meaning that Google was always recording phone audio and only selecting and storing pieces of it when legal reasons allowed them to do so

[@Accrt.]

"the audio recordings started before th Ok Google" I mean, how else Ok Google would work?

[@duckner]

@@Accrt. right? like all this isn't news, we've known it since its conception. You can disable it all, and if you don't trust that, get a flip phone or make your own idk.

[@joni062443]

I've tried this for a few days now, works wonderfully for my basic soft-keyboard needs. Decent amount of customization out of the box. Hopefully it holds up as it matures.

[@Exilum]

About the ad morality problem, I have a similar stance, but with a variant: I have an adblocker on by default, but I cut it for any website I visit more than once, with the exception of abusive ads. What I mean by abusive ads is when there is more ads than website, especially those that trigger no matter where you click. Then I consider them and the ad network they use getting ad money being a net negative for the world, and I keep the adblock on. For youtube, I always kept the adblocker off, and I got a premium subscription recently.

[@kriffos]

I think ads are no valid business model and if you solely rely on them it's your own fault. The problem is, every ad is a tracker. I never saw one without since the old days of static banners. Btw. does KZbin only give you money for ads? I thought you also get some share if premium accounts without ads watches your videos. Difficult topic, but I'm clearly on the privacy first side.

[@barongerhardt]

Such a bad business model. It is up there with a street performer getting pissed about not "donating" or a store refusing to sell only the on sale items at checkout.

[@Emancipatriot]

I couldn’t agree more. Ads aren’t even the problem. It’s the obnoxious ads and then the cross site tracking and cookie policies etc

[@MikeSW]

Companies should only exist if they benefit the public. What is advertising doing that benefits the public?

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

wrt: "Don't trust someone who is trying to sell you something" but even more so: "Don't trust someone who insists they're trying to *give* you something, as long as you sign a EULA".

[@maxmouse3]

Agree. Also an important vector, the keyboard is everything. Rossman is great 😊

[@dunngunkadoid]

I've tried loads of keyboards over the years, and I'm immediately impressed with the quality of tap typing on Futo's keyboard. The voice-to-text is surprisingly fast and accurate, although (this is a personal bias of mine so I don't really hold it against the keyboard especially being in alpha/pre-alpha) it would be nice to be able to manually insert punctuation like how Google's GBoard lets you by saying things like "question mark", "period" etc. The swipe typing needs improvement but with the quality of everything else of the keyboard that's by no means a deal-breaker for me. Impressive quality, even more impressive security policy. Immediately my new default keyboard on my Android devices.

[@WilliamTresnon]

Its a great keyboard. i have all learning features on, tried different models, and once i found a setup i liked, made it more aggressive. Its good.

[@AshutoshShelkeP]

Switched to FUTO Keyboard,

[@Praecantetia]

Already been using openboard

[@SuperM00b]

Regarding the ad block thing, I try to buy merch or use buy me a coffee as a way to donate to the person. The way the internet is at the moment, its not safe to browse without an adblocker.

[@timedebtor]

Usually the technical content i watch on KZbin have 500 views and half of them are me 😅. Lots of david blei lectures for variational inference, few ramond heddinger and dave beizley, the cryptography decisions from defcon and the simons institute... Its critical to my learning to have technical content on KZbin, but its definitely a difficult venue for totally new topics and based on rewatches can determine what you want to learn.

[@RenderingUser]

hopefully they improve the keyboard. no proper clipboard yet. i really need that feature also missing some languages also previewing symbols under letters also cursor control

[@PvtAnonymous]

it's not even in alpha yet. Of course they will improve it!

[@RenderingUser]

@@PvtAnonymous wait really?

[@adam7802]

I do watch deep technical content 🤔 just not all the time obviously lol. But on a weekend I have basically watched stuff on computer science over and over (since I'm self taught I like learning these things in my spare time naturally)

[@JoshPeterson]

I experienced that very thing. I bought a series on Google, and it's not available in the States now and I lost the series. Something I purchased. Wtf

[@Falsechicken]

I don't have an issue with ads in themselves its when they became these intrusive 75% of the page auto-playing audio video assaults on the senses that I started to get a bit miffed.

[@erlgr]

I love the FUTO keyboard, but there are a couple of things that discourage me from using it, them being... - the lack of simultaneous multilingual support (on gboard, I can use the spanish keyboard while I type in english, and it'll still show english suggestions. On FUTO, it'll stick to a single language) - Delete button swipe behavior (on gboard, it works word by word. On FUTO, it works letter by letter)

[@eneg_]

TIL you can swipe on the delete button. Zamn.

[@martijnvdven]

This is my problem as well. As someone who on the daily communicates in at least 3 separate languages, having to cycle through different keyboards before I start typing everytime is very annoying when there is a board that just solves it. Would love to hear about other keyboards that do this as well as Gboard on Android. (It is a huge pain for me on my iOS devices too.)

[@bren.r]

You do realize it’s still in alpha right? That means it’s in the minimal viable product stage. It’s not feature rich, yet.

[@erlgr]

@@bren.r absolutely, but I'm saying that those are the issues preventing me from using it *for now*. I'm definitely looking forward to that keyboard's future

[@kelvinpina3392]

Second on the multilingual support

[@KangoV]

I buy CDs still. Around 8,500 so far and I own all of it. No-one can take them away. All ripped as FLAC!

[@nobodynever7884]

There is nothing like that feeling of opening a CD and listening to the first few songs while you look at the artwork in the little booklet. I still remember doing this to OK Computer in 97.

[@KangoV]

@@nobodynever7884 Even better with LPs. Flicking through them in the local record shop was great. Getting home, cleaning the record, lining up the ton-arm and sitting back. It was great!

[@LeetTrance]

Enjoy your rot, even factory sealed it will rot within a decade

[@KangoV]

@@LeetTrance They are all ripped as FLAC. I then sub-convert to ogg/mp3 as needed. I even have a of SA-CDs as well which are just awesome. All are loaded onto my own NAS behind my own DNS. I can listen to then anywhere in the world for free, forever!

[@KangoV]

@@LeetTrance CD (read-only): 50-100 years, CD-RW: 20-50 years. I have some 37 year old discs that still play fine.

[@TownspersonB]

I primarily swipe on my phone's keyboard and gotta say the first couple days of using the FUTO keyboard were a definite step down from the Google one. But it has been getting better the more I've used it (I turned on the transformer fine-tuning feature).

[@br3nto]

5:02 My watch later list is maxed out because it’s filled with technical heavy vids that I don’t have time to watch 😂

[@JackDespero]

I don't usually buy digital content because it feels like it is not mine. As an exception, I buy many STLs for my 3d Printer, because once I have them, I can do with them whatever the heck I want and nobody can take them away from me. There are licensing, etc, but I don't sell them or provide them to strangers, so they do not restrict me for my personal use. On the other hand, I refuse to buy anything of which I am not the owner, and in so many of these things, like videogames, you are not the owner, you are just "borrowing it".

[@prajwalkrishnabhat5539]

The thing is, you did have ownership of digital content before the era of subscriptions , you could buy games, media as well as software of which you were the owner. But now everything's a subscription, but the companies make it look like you own the content or software. Like you can buy adobe software, but they can just not allow you to use it if they do choose but they never tell it to you. Same with unity, and many other software and now even games. That's why every company is pushing for always online stuff because they can control it from their servers anytime they want.

[@JanVerny]

@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539 No, buying a physical medium didn't give you ownership of a game or any software. They were always selling you licenses, they just had a different distribution channel. People seem to have some weird idea about ownership and how it applies to intellectual property. On the same note, since I see this all the time, no you also don't own anything that's FOSS.

[@prajwalkrishnabhat5539]

@@JanVerny so wait if I have a game cd of a game, can the game company stop me from playing the game remotely? I'm not talking about legalities but stopping me physically from playing the game. Like, I still have the original age of empires cd that I use from time to time, does it mean that the game company can stop me from playing it?

[@Kenionatus]

​@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539Nah, they can't, which makes it feel like ownership. In practice, it almost worked like ownership. Side note: GOG (Good Old Games) sells you DRM free games, so they also can't take it away from you in practice. Amusingly, it's run by a company that has its roots in software IP violation. CD Project is called that because they used to make unlicensed copies of game CDs in ye olden days.

[@JanVerny]

@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539 What you own is a disc. Not a game. If all you care about is whether or not someone can stop you, you may as well torrent the game and claim you now own it.

[@user-oj7uc8tw9r]

I just wish there was some way to make ads less intrusive

[@user-ic6xf]

Adgaurd home and pihole.

[@Jamesified]

Finally a privacy keyboard with swipe typing

[@omsrswt]

love Rossmann but somehow missed his announcement-- just installed Futo and it's pretty sweet, I actually like the spacing of the keyboard more than Gboard

[@weird_autumn42]

8:35 i've been using florisboard, an open source keyboard on android, for years now and not had any issues with it? what is he talking about?

[@theglowpt3]

Yeah I'm with you on that one. It is missing basic features, but I'm not sure why they didn't just start paying the developers to work on it instead of making their own one from scratch

[@skrundz]

Never use a car newer than 2003

[@matisvanasse5905]

Are my 05 and 07 cooked?

[@Falsechicken]

Once less vector is the way to go when it comes to privacy. Otherwise you will get overwhelmed. For example I started switching out my proprietary tools with open source ones organically over time as I found the open ones to be better. After that it was pretty easy to switch to Linux since all the same tools where there. Once I started noticing I was using a mostly FOSS stack on PC I then turned my attention to my phone. I now run LineageOS + FDroid only. Not the ultimate in mobile security but a large number of vectors less than the average device. Also now trying the keyboard. It's pretty good compared to the other FOSS options I have been using.

[@cork1576]

Am I going crazy or is this video not showing on my subscription feed? I only saw it on my home feed. What doesn't KZbin want me to learn in this video?!

[@hallo7053]

It would be MUCH better instead of a privacy keyboard to have full access to our phones. With this mean free modification like on linux and somewhat even on windows. Phones are way too closed. Both android (google android play integrity) and ios

[@user-oj7uc8tw9r]

Yes, I wish they would invest more time into a viable Linux phone that isnt a thousand years out of date vs some privacy keyboard that probably already exists in another form.

[@nithinsvarrier670]

@@user-oj7uc8tw9r Maybe try Florisboard. the development is slow, if you don't use word suggestions, it's pretty good

[@PvtAnonymous]

ever heard of... custom ROMs?

[@user-oj7uc8tw9r]

@@PvtAnonymous Yeah, but custom roms arent a true non-android phone. That's what I want.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@user-oj7uc8tw9r well, if you want that, just convince enough people to donate 20-30 billion dollars and your wish will come true. Oh, and if you don't want to wait 15 years to catch up with the development level of Android, double that figure.

[@carljosephyounger]

The devs put the ads on their site, knowing the ads will spy on their visitors, so fuck 'em.

[@hamm8934]

This is the correct take

[@williamrgrant]

They also know you won’t pay for it so it’s the worst viable option to actually make a living.

[@carljosephyounger]

@@williamrgrant - You could say that about any immoral business practice... A taxi driver could take a longer route, and claim that passengers are just not willing to pay enough for him to make a decent living otherwise. Nobody ever _had to_ install spyware on innocent people's computers to make a living as a programmer.

[@williamrgrant]

@@carljosephyounger stealing is also immoral. Not just on the provided side, but also the consumer. If there is an expected trade for providing content for consumption (ad for view), and you consume it without paying, you are stealing. One solution to this problem: if you feel strongly about the ads, don't visit the sites that have them or consume the content they come along with.

[@williamrgrant]

@@carljosephyounger I 100% agree with you if we are talking about spying though. Like facebook or Alexa that is constantly listening via devices to surface ads to you. That is immoral, as it invades an expected private space - when someone is NOT using the app / site.

[@bobbybyrne1899]

I only partially agree with the ad debate. My issue is that there isn't a good alternative for most of the internet that's cost effective and convenient. Ads are intrusive and sometimes malicious. I would rather have an internet surfing pool maintained by a non-profit, that automatically divides funds up based on time spent with a bit of manual overriding available for boosting sites/creators you found extra valuable. End of the week or month the funds are allocated and you decide how much you put in every period. And yes, putting in no funds should be an option. Paywalling the less fortunate isn't an option.

[@bloodniece]

Louis is the product owner we all need but don't deserve. I'd be happy to attend his standups an retros.

[@isodoubIet]

On the issue of ads, regardless of whatever ethical issues one may have, it's just downright irresponsible to be running a bunch of arbitrary third-party code on your browser. It's sandboxed to an extent sure, but even perfect sandboxing only goes so far.

[@isodoubIet]

The ethical dimension is questionable, however -- the ad-supported model has been a disaster for human civilization (not hyperbole). The only way the model will go away and replaced with something less inherently anti-consumer is if it ceases to work, and you know the only way that can happen.

[@Altrue]

Can't say I fully agree with Prime's take on adblocking. It's cute he thinks Google Products' revenue comes from ads when it's pretty clear that even for KZbin, your data is being harvested for commercial purposes. Crazy to see him not realize this on a video touching about companies PRIVACY POLICIES lol

[@hastyscorpion]

What do you think the commercial purpose is dude? It’s to get ads that are directly targeted at you. Google is an ad company a huge part of their business is selling targeted ads. Google is a public company. You can go in and look at their revenue it is unequivocally true that a a large portion of their revenue comes from ads. You also missed the part at the beginning where he’s said he has a moral quandary because he doesn’t like the trackers but sees the need for ads. Also not quite sure what the conclusion of your point is on that. Because google makes their money in other ways it’s ok for me to block ads? Even if that is true you are denying the individual creators money from the ads. You are denying the developers of social blade the money from those ads. The internet takes money to ru. It’s made by people and those people need to get paid. So there needs to be some mechanism for that to happen. I think we would all agree we would prefer it to be some other way than selling our data.

[@Altrue]

Looking at revenue breakdown is a good argument and I will need to inform myself better on that topic. However, it is undeniable that Data is the most valuable thing. It used to be true in the past, and it has only solidified now that you need it to train AIs. So many companies try so hard to get data from their users, and not as a secondary means of income. I feel like it would be quite insane to sweep this under the rug simply because ads exist. It's just that data will never show up on a revenue chart because it will mostly be used to boost other projects. Now, regardless of proportions, does adblock still steal money from creators? I don't think so. For this to be true this would imply very thin margins. Yet google has never changed its revenue sharing rate. In more than two decades! That would be quite the coincidence if they did things fairly. Or, they just gobble more of the profit without ever considering improving the revenue sharing. Why should they? They have a monopoly. Therefore, marginal decreases in their revenue should not impact creators. Of course, they tie revenue sharing to ads only, but it's an arbitrary choice, their responsibility.

[@SHUBH1]

Is it possible to get chat gpt to summarise EULA (finally be used for good)

[@fire17102]

The ending was based af , thanks prime

[@sfentona3018]

bro dont generalize like that. I got my RHCE and learned/learning Python by reading and watching youtube clips. Waking at 5AM to study and then going to work at 8AM. If I hear you generalize like this again I am gonna unsub/unfollow/block you. Thanks. Dont disrespect your audience like that

[@focksen7797]

"ads are fine because they make things free" - Reaction youtuber who essentially reuploads peoples videos in entirety. I don't care how many irrelevant jokes you make, it doesn't transform the content you are watching. You are just in the corner. Saying things. Good thing Rossmann doesn't care. But not everyone might share that opinion.

[@HyviaVideoitaMansenlale]

It is not for you to decide.

[@SnowDaemon]

yeah not everyone shares your opinion, thats for sure lol. not many people at all, actually (hence his popularity). also, you may be new here, but he's not just a "reaction Ytuber, hes a 20 yr software engineering vet, who spent half his career as Senior SWE at Netflix, who does LIVE CODING every other day on Twitch.

[@Mikey-Plays-Bass]

I love my 2005 Chevy. No def, No surveillance, and most importantly no subscription. 😊

[@leoschielt721]

So nice to see Louis on your channel!! This guy is THE BEST!

[@TianYuanEX]

0 comments in 6 minutes, bro fell off

[@rubendriezen7177]

still only 3 in 15 minutes

[@Altrue]

Maybe because the community is mature and likes to watch the video BEFORE commenting?

[@nicknevco215]

@@Altrue Pyro power

[@TianYuanEX]

@@Altrue Absolutely not lmao, look at how many comments there were in the first 10 minutes of the video

[@Its-Just-Zip]

I've been running the keyboard for a little bit, and while the typing experience isn't as good as the Google keyboard, and the swipe typing experience is a little bit shoddy, the voice typing experience is amazing. This is the most accurate voice typing model I've ever used, and it runs entirely on my device. I went and slapped the largest model they had available because I've got a Pixel 6 and it's got the horsepower to do it. I haven't actually typed on the keyboard in quite a while. I've just talked to it and fixed minor issues.

[@mystrdat]

Alright. SwiftKey out, Futo in

[@Neuromancerism]

Regarding ads specifically by the way, there is plenty of actual maleware delivered through youtube ads. They dont vet their ads or at least not seriously.

[@dragonproductions236]

The google keyboard having good voice to text is crazy when you consider google assistant no longer responds to "Hey Google" and when you manually start it, it doesn't understand 90% of what's being said.

[@floppydisk1137]

I just downloaded this keyboard. Before I was using the Samsung keyboard and in KZbin when I tried to add some comments in the video, the keyboard completely freeze and didn't work. And with this one, not a problem. The solution was to turn off the animation speed by activating the developer mode in the Android menu. Not anymore with this keyboard. Thank you, Louis.😅

[@Hypnotically_Caucasian]

Louis was the guy who introduced me to #righttorepair all those years ago, and even my boomer parents agree with it.

[@dtracers]

Me watching this between my 3rd watch of a highly technical video.

[@jakslayersyth]

Using a keyboard that keylogs on signal is crazy

[@MsHojat]

"I want adblock to prevent spying, but I don't want adblock to prevent ads" yes I'm the same way. You will be interested in Firefox's new experimental feature called Privacy-Preserving Attribution. A lot of people (including -or perhaps only- most techies) don't understand the details and just assume that it's commercial spying that Firefox does, but if anything it's more-so the opposite. If you really dig into the details of how it works and what it does it's not bad, and does to a degree attempt to solve the issue of privacy while still keeping revenue sources.

[@1EliPrice]

It goes off your phone. Not your vehicle. The insurance companies use a combination of your accelerometers, gps location and gmaps/maps for things like speed limits, stop signs/traffic lights, school zones etc.

[@renealbrechtsen9743]

Ross' keyboard is amazing. The only thing I'm missing from gboard is the one handed mode for larger phones.

[@altonmiles8067]

I will say that I generally don't watch extremely technical content unprompted however educational technical videos and examples have absolutely saved my life with both academics and some projects. It depends on how interested I am in the particular topic but I would expect you would get many fewer views on a technical video but the people watching may be helped much more.

[@sakuyarules]

I remember seeing Dragon Diction software waaay back in the early/mid 2000s. Interesting to hear they're kinda still around.

[@Kaixfikwind]

14:30 There’s options for adblockers to allow non-intrusive/approved ads. I don’t mind supporting websites through ads as long as they aren’t intrusive.

[@Nekroido]

Movie Kimi has a spin on a worker that prepares voice assistant dataset and hears sounds of physical struggle

[@crimiusXIII]

Keyboard is totally acceptable. No major differences, some hunting for specific symbols here or there. Swipe type is a little off, but also more accurate, I think it's just my sloppy habits Google adapted to that I'm dealing with. I'm satisfied, use it daily. An important note is I have not used voice to text, I'm a swipe for lifer.

[@ryanaiden]

3:49 perfect follow on 😂 prime: “don’t sign something people, REEEAD!” rossman: “exactly.”

[@AresFordwin]

On the topic of ads, I just *wish* we lived in a world where: 1. the people serving those ads are legally required to not allow predatory ads - stuff like "hey, you got X unread messages", "download/buy [insert whatever you just searched] now!", etc 2. the ads are always easy to dismiss/skip or at least aren't obtrusive for more than 10-15 seconds But until my dream world becomes reality, I'll keep on using an ad blocker and whitelist sites that I want to support.

[@pixels_per_minute]

Revoking access to a paid product is considered illegal here in Australia. If you stop paying for a subscription, then they have all right, but if you paid a one-time fee and get it taken away, you can sue.

[@TehKarmalizer]

Depends on how you look at it. If you pay for a physical product that’s modified or disabled by software later, you have a point. But what about software that the fine print says you are purchasing a license for?