New PSA Rock 57 : Low Recoil Hand Cannon!

The New PSA Rock 57 : 5 7x28mm Pistol Review. Palmetto State Armory has just introduced the Rock 57 with a 23 rd magazine capacity. It's low recoil and accuracy make it a great option for 5.7x28mm. Thanks to PSA for their help! Big thanks to Fiocchi USA for Supplying our ammunition!
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[@sootch00]

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[@berkosmansatiroglu]

Sir it possible to bumpfire Ak47. Thanks.

[@kyrozudesoya1829]

Yeah, TFB has had the same issue.

[@kingandqueenturben8293]

When they make a subcompact that holds 15. I'll buy it.

[@rogercrouch5866]

You are not the only one they are doing this to . I have been texted by several of these people from several others channels myself. If it sounds to good to be true . They also did this to me from Classic Firearms channel witch did have gun giveaway .Thank you for letting us know . Always love you're videos . Injoying you're video now .

[@joemarchinski914]

they are infesting every 2A chanell love your chanell 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@warrenb8228]

I love the magazine. They didn’t go with a standard amount, they just went for whatever fit in there. 23 it is.

[@beards-N-boonies]

Right. No rounded or solid counting numbers. Just whstevers max capacity. Literally.

[@NicktheMac]

24 with one in the pipe seems pretty square to me.

[@thezuck8157]

The Rock mag holds actually holds 24 rounds + 1 in the chamber. Y'all need to try it out. No feeding or seating issues either.

[@am-ro1lr]

I actually like how Palmetto pistols are so basic looking. They don't need all the bells and whistles. Keep it simple and effective, keep it cheap

[@talisikid1618]

Not interested in cheap masquerading as simple.

[@am-ro1lr]

I am a CZ fanboy for sure but I support all firearm manufacturers. I have 5 builds from Palmetto and none have ever malfunctioned. They were cheap, they were effective. I personally don't own any of their pistols but for everyone I know that has them (about 6 people) they have been more than pleased with them. I understand if a company isn't for you, but in this day in age, we 2A supporters are all brothers and sisters with the same cause. No matter what you carry or what rifle you have, I'm more than happy to have you by my side 🤙 As for my 5 AR palmetto builds, they held up just as well as my FN AR. Finish is no where near as good but for a throw around, it is more than enough. Stay safe my brothers and sisters -Molon Labe

[@colecole3352]

@@SpartyShootsStuffTV Because you are a idiot. Just about every other person here would disagree. All if the weapons are i expensive solid options go sit down.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@SpartyShootsStuffTV Keep in mind back in the day people called BCM junk as well. The fact is neither BCM, PSA or even BCA is junk because a little known secret is that almost every "manufacturer" of AR parts gets their parts from the same general sources. BCA manufacturers a lot of their own parts which makes them higher on the food chain. Most people determine AR quality by marketing.

[@agoogleaccount2861]

Where are these being built? They look a lot like a certain ukranian gun made by fort

[@garyspangler8623]

20 bucks for an additional mag, pricing around mid 500s up to 600. Palmetto State armory does it again. Love these guys love my AR from them and you're 100% correct and that baby still keeps rocking.

[@cryengine_x]

my main concern with this being so new and from a smaller manufacturer as well as an esoteric pistol is reliability. most of the reviews at psa mention some issues. i suspect the ruger is more reliable, but that this will improve over time of course. big pros for the ruger 57: it looks cooler (in my book), i can get one at academy today (albeit for 729), more proven reliability Big pros for this: cheaper, 23 round mag One thing is PSA advertises 499 bigly, but the real price imo is 570 because for a tank like this the optics ready version is mandatory IMO. So at that point the price gap to the Ruger closes greatly, as online the Ruger can be had for 640 and less it appears (~640 is the Buds Gun Shop price, which is usually a little higher than other bargain dweller shops online). At that point given everything (mostly the looks preference for me) I lean to the Ruger. Sure wish it held more rounds though, a big 9 can get close to 20....

[@davidbaize4825]

I’ve always liked the 5.7. The expensive ammo has kept me from getting a pistol in this caliber. I’ve been concentrating on my prepping with my money. Unstable world times have limited my fun. Great video!!!😁👍

[@CC-oy8ii]

.45 is more expensive that 5.7

[@jonboy9734]

@@CC-oy8ii no it’s not. I can get 45 40 something cent a round

[@garrypeek897]

C squared it's probably 45 long colt because they are about 1 dollar a round for reloads.

[@lelandgaunt9985]

Is this before panic buying?

[@DBlake710]

@@jonboy9734 Facts...ive seen the SF198 50rd Red box as high as 99.00 a box....yes a box

[@eva5193]

Really appreciate the multiple views of you firing in the beginning, it’s very helpful to see all the different angles

[@sootch00]

Thanks Eva, I try to show how it functions, especially up close : )

[@francotirador941]

me too really great 👍🏽 thank you for your time amigo

[@boromirofmiddleearth557]

the PSA 5 7 has 23 rounds in a magazine and 1 in the chamber? wow! amazing. less recoil. Very Interesting handgun and round. Definitely worth a look.

[@BuffRANGE]

Yep. You can squeeze 24 in the mag, but the few times I have , it likes to jam on the second round

[@Danny13Green]

@@BuffRANGE Just like rifles. Soldiers usually carry 1 or 2 short in the magazine

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@Danny13Green Whats the source on that?

[@Danny13Green]

@@georgewhitworth9742 From SWAT and certain military decisions stating it. Not first hand.

[@bikgfrruewr6003]

Got mine today and I am very pleased with it. Palmetto never ceases to amaze me

[@soulsesh1118]

Just ordered this morning

[@bikgfrruewr6003]

@@soulsesh1118 u will be very pleased with it. Congrats

[@faustoramos8840]

WOW!! Thanks for this awesome , informative and honest review... all details cover... nothing was left out .. SUPER !!! Congratulations!! and thanks again. This was a 57 Seminar !

[@davidsullivan7867]

Just bought my Rock for $300 & ammo from PSA was $0.47 per round. There many positive videos about this pistol, which was a big part of my decision to purchase...thanks for this & ALL your reviews...shoot straight shoot often!

[@1AFVeteran]

Sootch, you make great videos! Thanks for making these videos and for being real! Seems like PSA has a very nice pistol!

[@RetiredBadge]

Thank you again for thr BEST video I have seen on The Rock and I have watched a lot. Yours is far and beyond the others. Great job!!!

[@encinio1]

I fell in love with this gun as soon as It premiered at shot show. I couldn’t wait to get my hands on it. When I got mine in, I just loved everything it had to offer. I was able to buy 300rds at $39.99 a box which was the American Eagle. Now I do understand that all the testing that was done by PSA they used the (FN 5.7x28 FMJ) ammo. So I was a little Leary about using Federals ammo and it performing in this platform, but the Rock ran it and made me feel way more confident that this gun would be reliable in a self defense scenario. Thus far I have ran 200rds of ammo through mine without any issue. So I’m willing to say I am completely confident in trusting this gun to do what I need it to do.

[@caleb6988]

I'm a big fan of PSA and they are making great freedom tools

[@muddyram]

Exactly, I live close to one of the stores and not only do they have awesome stuff for reasonable prices, but the staff has always been fantastic

[@one-of-us9939]

Sweet. Love that take down. Great review my brother. Thanks! Love to see a Ruger and FN57 compared

[@betweenthebars19]

I ordered a Blem rock with the case and 10 mags for their “black Friday” sale for $529… I’m really stoked for it! Should be here Monday!

[@cashmoney9256]

How ya like it?

[@betweenthebars19]

@@cashmoney9256 I haven’t taken it to the range yet but it feels good in the hands, I’ll be taking it out shooting after Christmas and I’ll let ya know!

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Wow

[@militar12]

@@betweenthebars19how was it?? 😂

[@Whatawise1]

The PSA Blem usually have some form of defect or issue with the finish. Did you notice any significant issues with the finish?

[@kjaxxn]

Kinda excited for this PSA offering. I’ve been in market a 5.7x28 for awhile. Was hoping the caliber would take off in popularity and bring the cost down a bit more. I was after the Ruger, but I would rather reward PSA with my business for their everyman approach to pricing their firearms historically. Will leave me enough geld to throw an optic on it, and at this price maybe I can sneak it pass the book keeper, I mean ol’ lady. lol

[@blitzkrieg459]

Actually excited about this. Love palmetto making firearms at a affordable price point. Love its simple look.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

Looks exactly like a CZ P10-F. Nice to have another option in 5.7.

[@jwlansdale]

I was going to say the slide is CZ. You already said it for me though...

[@robertdowns6800]

Just bought both guns 😂

[@DBlake710]

Love the videos and thank you for all your hard work and all of what you do.. GOD BLESS THE USA

[@roberttalbot1658]

A very sleek, clean look to the PSA. Frame grip looks very ergonomic. A huge factor in my choices. And the price is really good.

[@billseaman5974]

I was hoping you would do a review on this weapon. Now a day's with so many gun reviewers I always watch you for your honesty. This oldman started shooting at the age of 5 I'm now 70 and a proud Range Master. I've taught quite a few people how to be SAFE and how to be accurate.

[@eclampsium]

Congrats for still being actively shooting Bill. In Brazil we are leagaly alloed to teach our sons only at age of 14… and now they just upper it to 18!!! That’s a shame. Take care of leftish minded there too

[@gph2193]

Been there with 5.7mm. Very nice round, but for the price of one, I found that I can reload 4 to 5 excellent hand loaded 9mm rounds. It's not practical and definitely not economical, yet extremely cool.

[@robertdaone]

I say that about my Desert Eagle 50 AE.

[@kennethcurtis1856]

Tim Kennedy would argue with you on the practicality of the round.

[@casualwoodchuck]

@@kennethcurtis1856 watching him talk about how has FN pistol works without understanding how barrel length affects the round is pretty hilarious.

[@TheSulross]

too big for concealed carry so just something to bang at the range

[@10mikemike89]

@@TheSulross Bull pucky. I carry a G20.

[@ElMeroSalero]

Love this. Just the raw specifics n sounds. No music

[@jesuslovesyou5330]

Awesome thanks for the review sir....

[@MLFreese]

I wish they'd make a 6 inch longslide version with optic mount. If there's any pistol cartridge that deserves a long slide, it's 5.7.

[@reccesam7799]

Great review and comparison. Thanks!!

[@ehayes5217]

a great review & thanx!🇺🇸

[@NavySooner]

So excited about launches $23 down range with every magazine

[@richklein955]

I have the FN what sets it aside from the others is the size & weight makes for a nice EDC one 20 rd in the gun and 2-3 backup clips and you have some serious fire power. The safety is a better spot for me right at the trigger finger which makes for quick acquisition .

[@francotirador941]

Always a good job on all your videos

[@Fatboycason]

Thank you for this video, I am on there site now and I see one in my near future!

[@richr7215]

I got the optics version last week and I love it, I don't love the $1/ round for ammo but it is what it is. There's not much of an aftermarket for it, I have only found one holster company that currently makes a holster for it. There's a great aftermarket for sights though being they take Glock sights. Overall though it's an awesome gun, especially for just over $500.

[@sootch00]

The optics version would be nice. It's a solid gun and the price is right. Now to find ammo that doesn't empty my wallet! lol! Thanks Rich

[@mr2scroll538]

Thats just means work more. Don't let that stop you, to much fun

[@richr7215]

@sootch00 Great review as always. I thought the FN ammo was expensive, but then I saw the Gold Dot going for $2/ round. The optics version is nice if you don't want to use an adapter plate optics like Holosun 507k, Romeo Zero, Shield etc mount to the slide and then it ships with RMR and Doctor Cut plates. I swapped out the sights for Glock suppressor height night sights, I'm glad they went with the Glock sights because there's nothing aftermarket-wise for the Rock. A lot of people said that the Rock will fit in a Ruger holster but it doesn't. Just an FYI for anyone looking for lights for it, the Olight Baldr Pro will not fit correctly on the gun. The way PSA designed their rail is a bit off, it's a normal rail but the space between the trigger guard and the closest rail to it is the farthest I've seen.

[@richr7215]

@@mr2scroll538 absolutely.

[@smokingcrab2290]

Load ur own bro

[@steveh7108]

Thank you for pointing out the price that you used to be able to get it for. People often insinuated that I was lying or crazy when I said I would commonly get it for 18 to $22 a box and the $22 was the FN brand I even found the Redbox ammo at less than 20 dollars per box when buying bulk of 500 rounds and that was just a deal I stumbled on in a random store that I walked into.

[@dragonsofthunder]

If they've been into guns for awhile they would know

[@craigthescott5074]

Yep I remember 5.7 for $18 a box.

[@richardtrude7562]

Love your gun reviews, facts w/o sugar coating.

[@FranklinUHyde]

Always appreciate and enjoy your videos/reviews. Really prefer the Rock's super clean outfit compared to the overly busy Ruger's. Your video certainly helped me with my decision to pick up my own PSA Rock 57. Excited for its delivery soon.

[@ABCDE710]

I am impressed. Never thought I would own one but now I think I will :D

[@arsavarese85]

I own one of these pistols. I am very happy with the product. I think PSA, for the money, has the best products out there. It is a fun gun to shoot and is made very well.

[@timsmith9645]

Cool gun wouldn't mind having one thanks for sharing sootch00

[@edwardjackson1333]

Awesome Review! Best one yet on the PSA Rock 5.7

[@ffield12]

I owned an FN 57 and acquired about 1700 rounds I believe at that time was $18-19 a box of 50. Sold the pistol about 7-8 years ago and later ALL the ammo for about $25 a box since the person buying was paying $37 a box and at $25 we were both happy. Loved shooting it and like you stated low recoil and LOUD 😵‍💫 … just another gun that I have sold I wish I had it back. I have purchase PSA guns and items throughout the years and they are good quality and customer pleasing and fair prices. I would love getting one of their 57s but at $50 a box and having taken up reloading again because of the high price and availability of ammo. I will hold off for a while.

[@dannybarron6139]

RTB Rocks

[@wehrewulf]

Cool story.

[@dogfather68]

Great review. I am very glad Palmetto answered the challenge and created their own 5.7x28 When Ruger came out with their version first, I passed on it. Over the years, Ruger's quality control and reliability went out the window, and won't buy another one. Anytime you have to buy an aftermarket part to make a firearm function, I deem it unworthy and I won't buy. In this case, Palmetto has always been 100% and reliable and look forward to this one.

[@earldelsanto]

I agree Roger sucks. I never like the designs.

[@dev3734]

Just had a Ruger .357 mag blow up in my hand yesterday

[@armsdirectory]

Love to see this posted on Arms Directory! Thanks for the great review!

[@sammartinez8084]

Great show my friend and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@josephmarino3951]

Gotta say psa is killing it may not be perfect but are definitely putting awesome guns in peoples hands for decent prices can’t beat there dagger uppers and lowers

[@nyogtheeldritchgentleman]

Well damn. Another 5.7 gun. Love to see it.

[@andrewjakakas2502]

Great review man, really got a great feel for this weapon.

[@jimdoane1362]

I really enjoy your reviews, and I’m a Michigan guy too. And I love your sign off

[@0zmose]

From what I've seen, the Rock mags WILL fit in the Ruger 5.7, but not vice versa. These mags are priced at $19.99 on the PSA website.

[@JeepsCafe]

I'd buy that pistol, it's the best looking 57 compared to the other two in current production Excellent video as always Sootch!

[@k--eparty6096]

The video I've been waiting for!

[@JamesGOutdoors]

Another great review on my favorite gun channel.

[@normoloid]

I like it a lot! Update: Now that I have given more thought to this, I think this would be a very good pistol for those who want the most modern cartridge or even just firmly stick with one caliber use in everything. Pros: Finally an affordable way to get into the world of 5,7 caliber Cons: It should be more modular, accepting also suppressors and stocks etc. Biggest nuisance at the moment is the magazines, all 3 pistols has their own, but as far as I know only FN has extended mags, it would be better for the manufacturers themselves if everyone used the same magazines. MPA57 uses also fn mags, so I think it would be best if everyone just used that model, as it has obvious advantages over the others.

[@searchBLOC941]

During the lowest point of the ammo shortage recently, every single shelf had 22TCM on it in droves. Not only is it a ballistic monster, but it was everywhere!

[@charlesmckinley29]

The new 5.7 guns and the refusal of Armscoro/Rick Island to get SAAMI specs for the TCM I believe are it’s death knell. You can’t even buy a new 22 TCM pistol right now.😡. The first rifles took forever to come to market and had bad barrels when they did. The second attempt at the rifle very few were even made. I’m searching for a single stack 22 TCM. I have a double stack.

[@searchBLOC941]

@@charlesmckinley29 I was hoping there would be another manufacturer to produce something mainstream, to reinvigorate the caliber. Sucks that it's fallen by the wayside.

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@searchBLOC941 yep. It is still a wild cat. At least if you have one brass can be made from any .222 parent case cartridge. Match Grade Machine did offer barrels. I don’t know if they still have a reamer. I think it was Pacific Tool and Gage made reamers.

[@searchBLOC941]

@@charlesmckinley29 I recently saw the kit on RIA's website for a conversion. But I dunno if it's still available.

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@searchBLOC941 the sold out one I saw was for 22TCM 9r. It is a after thought to make it fit in a stand 9mm magazine vs the 38 Super mag the 22TCM needs. The last I looked there were a few Glock kits for the 22TCM9r and they said no more would be made. If you have any questions I can try to answer them. I suggest castboolits forum as that is where I read a lot of early info on the TCM. As a wildcat there is no “official” reloading data. There is a TCM powder so they might have suggested data.

[@smokingcrab2290]

Been waiting for you to do this one

[@crisibarra6850]

One thing I love about 5.7x28mm handguns is their low recoil 👌🏼 and they always got a big fire ball coming out the bore 😈

[@Abby_Normal_1969]

Not gonna lie. From a pure aesthetic stance, I like this more than the FN or the Ruger. I have always found the FN to be hideous looking, but the Ruger looks pretty sweet.

[@talisikid1618]

They all look ok. None of them are that great.

[@Abby_Normal_1969]

@@talisikid1618 - that is fair. The PSA isn't a stunningly beautiful gun. On the flip side, she isn't hideous either.

[@therealwewin]

@@Abby_Normal_1969 slimmer of the three that's for sure.

[@Browncoat-gc6nc]

Note federal ammo is known to have issues in 5.7 caliber .. FN runs flawless from what I've heard.. so for SD use FN JHP As an experienced shooter.. I just like the idea of a handgun with 23 +1 moving at around 2000 fps

[@toyotek2]

Great review Sootch. cant wait for the head to head.. should be awesome. Please do the FN 57 also when you do the head 2 head

[@kevinauger201]

GREAT VID !! THANKS

[@Gigabutthole]

This channel is straight dopamine in the morning 🚜💨

[@melvinlambert4629]

Why has the gun companies ignoring the 22 tcm? Better ballistics. Similar to size. One third price. Can use 5.56, 223 brass to reload. Esay to convert 9mm and 38 super guns to shoot it. RIA makes conversion barrels for glock and others. RIA also makes a great bolt rifle for it with exceptional velocity 2800, close to 223.

[@evonpaige8873]

I like the 22TCM, although the ballistics are not better than the 5.7x28 Ballistics w/ equivalent barrel lengths. 22Tcm is no slouch, and comes close. However, does not beat the 5.7; even w/ heavier bullet weights TCM is still not outperforming the 5.7 in terms of velocity; and certainly not in lighter weights. Additionally, You speak of reloading, if you are new to reloading stay away from reloading the 5.7, mistakes w/ reloading this caliber can lead to a Bad Day real fast.

[@AC-iq4gb]

@@evonpaige8873 The .22 TCM is definitely inferior to 5.7x28 when it comes to sectional density. You simply cannot use bullets as long in the .22 TCM, due to what sort of grip it's designed for, the cartridge profile, which makes its aerodynamics inferior. Also even years later, there's still only one manufacturer for .22 TCM ammo.

[@tylerrobbins8311]

The 22TCM is not superior to the 5.7 they are not even filling the same roles. 5.7×28 get beat put by 5.4×18 for the role they play. 22TCM is meant to be an alternative to 9mm and 380 in which out of a longer barrel it out performs. Other than that you're buring a lot of powder in a gigantic muzzle flash (worth it in its own right) but balistics it's wasted energy.

[@ZombieWarningStation]

THE DAY THESE DROPPED i bought my MAX9 (which is great) but imagine how I felt I've been waiting for the 5.7 since it was announced at shot show and i get back from picking up my new Ruger max 9 get on my computer and the first thing that pops up is an email notification that the 5.7 had launched and i was on the website with it in my cart.... but could pull the trigger cuz id had already blown my gun budget for the next 6 months... AHHHHHHHHH! but I still love the MAX9 but I got precision trigger for it and its awesome for conceal carry saving for 5.7 right now!!

[@69BTony]

Love your vids, good info

[@clamum9648]

I've always been kinda interested in the 5.7mm caliber. I'd like to get a PS90 or one of these 5-7 pistols (Ruger, PSA). Just looked on AmmoSeek and the ammo is more plentiful than I had thought, though it's not cheap. Hmmm. Maybe have to keep this in mind.

[@chrisgrace1489]

I found 5.7 for .69 cents a round this morning

[@cojogetem5296]

Wish I can have that

[@robbiterry38]

cool video, i have the ruger and love it. academy had the federal ammo for 39.99 a box, that is the cheapest i have found it. love watching your videos, keep up the good work...

[@CODEXAMBROSIUS]

Ive always carried a 6inch 357 or a 1911 in 45 full size (im big enough to hide and comfortably carry them) but when i got this 57 for 350 i fell in love. Its so comfortable and feels like im shooting a 22. Never had a malfunction either, only had an issue with one sticky magazine but ive fixed it.

[@jackshett]

Looks nice. I'd like to see an adjustable rear sight though.

[@lthomas4697]

I wish the TCM-22 round could catch on with other companies. I would love to have a TCM-22 barrel for my AR9mm. The Rock Island Armory rifle allows this round to go to 2800fps with a 40gr bullet, but it is a bolt action system. Come on, RIA.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

A lot of people got soured by TCM9r in the original specs but that one guy who did the 5.56x24 mod fixed all the problems but no one talks about it.

[@charlesmckinley29]

No SAAMI specs equals wildcat and no one else will touch it! RIA totally screwed up. They should have made it fit a normal 9mm mag or got the specs so other companies would make guns and ammo. Being based on the 556 brass you have an almost inexhaustible supply of brass. RIA IS DUMB DUMB DUMB!

[@timgruver5932]

Fantastic pistol. Another sweet review. For $499 too and that’s a great price.

[@deanfirnatine7814]

Now PSA needs to bring out an affordable quality 10mm

[@Matt_justlikethat]

What a gorgeous weapon….. Wow.👍👍

[@unkulwilly]

good thing 5.7x28 ammo is readily available again, and at decent prices

[@kimmorrison9169]

good clean lookin pistol. Impressed with the low recoil. That baby hardly moved while you shot it.

[@edwardoalvarez5566]

Wow. That's powerful shooting

[@melissasmess2773]

Good house gun, truck gun or safe queen, not affordable to shoot but super impressed 😍

[@gregcampwriter]

The FN FiveseveN was always overpriced, since its only special feature is its caliber. Ruger's model was an improvement, but this PSA is finally something coming in at a reasonable cost. Now to see if my local gun stores have one...

[@eidtnaci]

I say just order one off the site it’s very reasonable priced

[@donalddicorcia2433]

I’m hoping the release of the Rock drags down the street price of the Ruger a bit.

[@damianholliwoodcoles5691]

Currently you can only order from their site and have it shipped to your local gun store. I just purchased one myself.

[@hsatre1]

great review

[@davidca96]

finally a reasonably priced five seven, I want one.

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

I’ve never been a huge fan of 5.7 for defensive use, but one can think that, and find the caliber to be interesting and enjoy others enjoying it. If we all liked the same things, life would be boring.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

The only issue with 5.7 is that it has a lot of flash and noise. Other than that it is a better defensive caliber than 9mm as you get lower recoil, greater capacity and the same terminal ballistics. It just hasn't been viable until Ruger came out with their handgun, but the PSA further expands options. The only other hurdle is the cost of ammo, but in todays market 5.7 is comparable to 9mm prices.

[@bannedbycommieyoutube5time920]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj we can agree to disagree on ballistics. Mathematically we agree, but there will forever be the debate of heavy & slow vs. fast and light (and everything in between, what is the exact proper balance). There also isn’t a 5.7 firearm I’m aware of that is the proper size to conceal carry for the vast majority of people, so for the vast majority, it’s a non-starter. For home defense, a long gun is a much better choice than any handgun in the vast majority of situations. Even if it had fantastic ballistics for a handgun, a long gun has exponentially better ballistics. Again, at the end of the day, to each his own, I never suggested it was a “bad” caliber. Edit: I have been routinely seeing 1,000 rounds of brass cased 9mm for $0.30 a round for the last 6-8 weeks. If you hand load and have a source of free brass/reuse your brass 3-4 Times, it’s even cheaper than that. I haven’t seen 5.7 for anywhere near that price for practice.

[@brianmitchell8964]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj the only advantage 5.7 has over 9mm is the lower recoil and that's only for recoil sensitive shooters. 9 has proven better ballistics with significantly heavier and larger bullets. You get more capacity in a 5.7 but that's a mute point since most self defense scenarios could be settled with a 6 shot revolver. The initial purpose for 5.7 is as a sub gun round to defeat body armor which it excells at but how often is that relevant for average citizens? And there are specialty 9mm rounds designed and just as capable of this. I'm sure it's fun but the price of ammo is a huge advantage for 9mm. Being able to train with your defensive firearm is a major factor of self defense. I can handload 500 practice rounds of 9 for less than the price of 1 box of 5.7. If you feel it's right for you that's just fine you are of course entitled to your opinon I personally don't see any advantage to 5.7.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@brianmitchell8964 The terminal ballistics of the 9 and 5.7 are actually nearly identical. I also train with the 9, but I carry a 22TCM barrel conversion (although I would carry a 5.7 if I still had my five seven). The 22 caliber is way easier to shoot so I know that if I can shoot the 9 well, I can shoot the 22 even better. The 22TCM can penetrate IIIa at close range because it is a little more powerful than 5.7, but the reason I carry the 22TCM is because it is softer recoiling. This means even if I'm not on my A game, I can be confident my rounds go where I intend for them to go. If I had a 5.7 it would be a huge advantage over 9mm due to the magazine capacity alone, which these days is more applicable with how many people are drugged up, and someone on a bad trip is probably going to be more likely the person who attacks you than a sober robber.

[@brianmitchell8964]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj the 5.7 has over 100ftlbs of energy less than 9mm when fired from similar length barrels, penetrates an average of 10.6 inches in bare gel (less than 9) and has a wound cavity 1/3 the size of typical 9mm defensive ammo. It's not a bad round but it's not the wonder pill some claim it is. I see it as a niche round. An armed gaurd(which I am BTW) that may face multiple armored assailants may have more need of the increased capacity and armor blindness. Or it would be a great end of days zombie gun if you could stockpile ammo..But for much of the population ..myself included..n mag restrictions nullify the capacity factor. It really comes down to personal choice and what somone is comfortable in their ability to defend themselves with. A hit with the 5.7 is better than a miss with a .357.

[@moneyctmn]

Ammo for 5.7 is available on at least hundred locations online and at less that a $1 per round and some places 73cents. The reason it appears to be expensive is because it’s a 50 bullet box. Note: a sports car’s gas should be premium! Hotdog! Hotdog! Hotdog!

[@tylermallory2504]

The same ammo was less than .50 cents around just 3 years ago...

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

From $17 to $50/ box is a 200% increase. $1/round is expensive for ammo you will have to train with. Just 3 practice sessions a year is $300, and that's just for 1 gun.

[@ironmikehallowween]

It’s a cool caliber. Glad to see companies offering pistols to shoot it. I want to get a pistol in 5.7 for all of my daughters.

[@johnwick-fw3pz]

Many friends built on pma and are glad that they did

[@Alckee6904]

An actually good looking 5.7 pistol? 😮

[@joaopedrobaggio4475]

As i can see the 5.7 mm caliber is not exclusive to the FN Five-seveN anymore.

[@melissasmess2773]

Glad no safety, like the Ruger 57 Pro model😎

[@krodkrod8132]

I have 2 of the FN 57 i might need to get one of these. This is a great round for a pistol.

[@georgefitzhugh6455]

Thanks for sharing

[@kfeltenberger]

Do you know whether this requires the special lubrication coating on the ammunition that the FN guns require? That was always a hindrance to reloading in the past.

[@mechag9499]

I didn't do anything to my ammo. Federal and FN worked fine. Didn't notice anything about that in the manual.

[@kfeltenberger]

@@mechag9499 Do some more research on it; I think it was the P/PS90 that required it. IIRC, at one point the FN ammo even had a warning not to reload. This is why for a lot of years if you wanted custom ammo you had to pretty much sacrifice factory loaded ammo to get the unfired brass with the coating.

[@mechag9499]

@@kfeltenberger i double checked. The PSA manual makes no mention of lubed ammo. The Keltec P50 manual says 5.7 cartridges have a dry coating and recommends lubricating the chamber due to risk of a stuck casing. I didn't do that. No issues.

[@himmler.404]

GOD.

[@joash480]

Wow! It shoots the bullet forward, and the shell backward 🤣

[@ravenstylea2]

A CCW iteration of this pistol would be the ticket

[@arturomunoz3]

Just ordered mine! Can’t wait! Got it on sale for 399!

[@TurfSurf]

Cleaner and more modern look than Ruger’s 57.

[@kirkchartier7141]

*"The 5.7 is an overrated cartridge especially out of a pistol length barrel put it in something 10" then it's adequate, but the 7.62x25 takarov round eclipses it for velocity and it's a bigger bullet and it used to be A LOT cheaper too. **Military Arms channel did a comparison of the four loads that he could get of the 5.7 out of FN Five Seven versus the level 2 body armor vest. The military and police only load that he got was the only one that actually penetrated the vest out of the pistol length barrel. But then he tried it out of a short barreled P90 and it penetrated. **But then he tried the PMR 30 from Kel-Tec which is just a 22 mag and that actually penetrated the vest but stopped on the manufacturers label on the inside of the vest. So if Kel-Tec wants to remake the PMR 30 more like the old Grendel P31 with the 11 inch barrel I'd buy one. **All these 5.7's with the short barrels are just a waste of money and time for people who've got nothing better to do with than pour their money down a rat hole.

[@tylerrobbins8311]

The 5.4×18 soviet also makes this bullet redundant but since few know of it die to polotics at never caught on in the west.

[@maxwellvindman7212]

I love the harvester in the background flinching at every shot

[@temnysh]

Truly a hand cannon. Interesting caliber.

[@Preacher357]

Are you sure this isn't just a Ruger in disguise?

[@sootch00]

It's a close call : ) I like the trigger much better in the rock. Thanks Brother!

[@Preacher357]

@@sootch00 I need to try one of these out. I still have yet to shoot a 5.7 x 28.

[@sootch00]

It's super low recoil yet that bullet is coming out like a freight train. If the ammo will just come down, the world will be a better place! loL!

[@Preacher357]

@@sootch00 These days we need the price of all ammo to come down...along with gas and groceries and everything else.

[@erroneous6947]

It is a ruger but it identifies as a psa

[@dasfahrer8187]

Cool, been looking at getting a new pistol in this caliber. Always liked the FN FiveSeven.

[@reinaldogarcia70]

I'm extremely impressed With the caliber 5.7 mm High Velocity round As well as Palmetto State Armory pistol

[@azelkhntr4992]

Great breakdown! God Bless and long live the Republic indeed!