New Queensland Government to SCRAP QSAC Olympics Development?

[@will_274]

55,000 seat Stadium for an Olympics is a joke.. spend the money in Victoria Park build a legacy stadium bring Brisbane up to the 21st-century and the chance to host major events in the future.

[@farmerooni]

Only the Gabba and Vic Park offer feasible sites for a new stadium. If you're going to build, it has to be 5 minutes max from the central 4 stations of Roma St, Central, Fortitude Valley and Bowen Hills. These are the stations which every train line goes to: you can't make a trip to the game a 40 minute journey into the city followed by a change-of-station and another 15 or 20 minute journey back out again. If it's going to be a successful stadium, you want ease-of-access, and lots of public transport. Especially if you're taking the kids. The choice of location will literally make or break any future success. Just look at how Boondall is regarded, being stuck so far away from the CBD. Spending half the money will just generate another white elephant. Spending more money and getting the infrastructure right may well pay off the additional costs in the medium-term.

[@electro_sykes]

Yo

[@Adaptorzzz]

Why anyone thought spending 1.6b on a temporaryy stadium that serves no purpose was a good idea is beyond me.

[@stephenrandall5859]

They need to do a new stadium at Victoria park and then sell the Gabba to developers to pay for part of it. Victoria park has a rail and bus way running along its sides so it would be easy to add in Victoria park stations.

[@Matt_JJz]

QSAC was the SINGLE DUMBEST proposal for the Olympics. I have faith that LNP will create a great plan for the Olympics. In my opinion they should go ahead with the Hamilton proposal, but Victoria Park is a great proposal too!

[@BigBlueMan118]

Why the hell do you have faith the LNP have a good plan lol

[@sanitygone-l9y]

LNP, the party famous for monumentally screwing up NBN.

[@ahhughes123]

QPAC & the convention center should be knocked down and build the stadium ABOVE the South Brisbane train station. The eastern end of the stadium should remain open for amazing city views from inside and outside the stadium. This also means the stadium is right next to the new metro. QPAC is terrible, so there is no problem in knocking that over it needs to happen anyway and something better built for them. There are plenty of options for where a new QPAC can be developed in around the same area. The convention center can easily be incorporated into the new stadium... possibly even QPAC... Plus, stadiums get little use especially when you only have 1 AFL team. The infrastructure that surrounds the stadium would get more usage if QPAC and the convention center would incorporated into the stadium also. p.s. can we call it "The Big Queenslander" and have the Fascade look like a Queenslander (house) from the outside????

[@Matt_JJz]

@@BigBlueMan118 because their original plan was amazing. Then Labor destroyed it. In typical Labor fashion.

[@sanitygone-l9y]

@@Matt_JJz What do you mean their original plan, they were never in power to make a plan. And Labor had decided to go with QSAC because they couldn't justify spending 3 and a half billion dollars on a stadium during a cost of living crisis. Now, I also think QSAC is a questionable choice but they were being modest and responsible. The head of the Australian Olympic Committee even stepped in and advised them to go with QSAC.

[@OilHutJones]

scrap the god damn olympics already. imagine what we could spend that money on instead.

[@kevin-e5h5t]

Labour lost because they put a no-body into the Premier's chair. Annastacia Palaszczuk should never have been outsted, for someone who's name cannot be remembered.

[@JaydenWilliams-my1br]

Brisbane needs at least an 80k seat stadium, SEQ is now over 4.1 million people and in the next 15-20 years will add another 2 million people. Imagine a megalopolis city of over 6 million with a stadium of only 40-50k capacity, what a joke.

[@galesly8787]

What a joke qld holding the Olympic how embarrassing people visiting the games what will they think of tent city 😢

[@yeu-tieng-viet]

Gabba is the best option!!

[@BMARC13]

The new government should stick to the original plan and rebuild the bloody Gabba no need to rebuild a new stadium elsewhere

[@johnMeredith-i8w]

if government does not have the money what about the proposal to build a new stadium free of charge to the state so why not take up this offer instead

[@lonnie224]

I think building homes and fixing the Bruce is more important to Qlders than the Olympics.

[@jimmyboy2]

@lonnie224 really! Said the 3 million residents of Brisbane? Doubt it. Some Qlders might agree with you but most don't.

[@jimmyboy2]

The school being there is stupid af. It should have been moved decades ago! Who in their right mind wants their kids crossing some of the busiest roads in South Brisbane. It's at least four lanes wide and has trucks/buses/cars over 20,000 per day going through there. Move it ASAP.

[@rodgerwarne5717]

Maybe they need to look at the important issues such as reliable energy sources such as nuclear and decent roads in regional and rural Queensland and not spending everything in the S.E corner.

[@NickStevens-o7n]

Wasn't there plans for a family orientated park (at Victoria Park) with elevated walkways, theme gardens , ponds and BBQ activities?

[@__Gabe_Davis__]

Yeah there will still be room for it even if the stadium is constructed apparently.

[@terryjeisman7550]

All he has to do is say to the Olympics and the state will be a long way back to financial stability!

[@johnmceleney1092]

Sports funding has nothing to do with building houses or upgrading roads. If Brisbane doesn’t grab as much federal sports funding as possible that money will go to other States to their stadium upgrades. Airport is already getting an upgrade so that’s not included in the Olympic budget, new hotels are usually Private companies

[@Gary-vv5gt]

As per comments, i think brisbane has the opportunity to build a new stadium and put in new tech which has been used overseas. I say get rid of the gabba, turn it half the land into a park, and the other half for shops/residential and downgrade Suncorp to a 25-30k stadium (since suncorp needs a reno anyways and very limited as well in expansion to higher than 52k). Keep Suncorp for most rugby/soccer games (have bigger games played at the new stadium) Then build a brand new stadium in victoria park or whatever near the city near public transit (yes its cost more and add the retractable pitch will add extra, but be aware its also going to be the future for brisbane teams) to i say 75-80k for Olympics and variable from there on. Reason why i say variable is that its will be a retractable pitch and seating at the same time. For oval sports, 65k and for rectangular sports around 70k. The pitch for oval will pop up when oval sports are played, and the extra seating ether get slide back or underneath the ground. Likewise for rectangular sports, the oval pitch get retracted underground and then the extra seating and rectangular pitch gets moved up in place (that will also allow for rectangular sports to be closer to the action). Also there should be a third option for concert pitch which is just a plain floor so the grass pitch don't get damaged. Yeah its going to be a bit higher up for oval sports (to fit in with rectangular sports, bit like wellington stadium), but i think that the best way of going multipurpose. Also whinge about budget and whatnot, but heck this idea is probs more better in regards to spend in one go and don't worry about in 10-30 years time of building another sport ground post olympics....

[@Firefoxbaron]

Or just it time we think past state owned stadiums I’m sure if a private company like ones that own some of super stadiums in the USA should be considered

[@AmaliSaid-xz1dr]

That is good.

[@Albo-bot]

QSAC was the only embarrassing proposal. Glad it got scrapped. I prefer the Victoria Park idea personally, but then what happens to the Gabba?

[@LiamP589]

Just build a new stadium. Stop complaining about the costs. It will need to be done at some point. I doubt tax payers will even notice if they are or aren't paying for it thru their taxes.

[@BigBlueMan118]

Location is crucial and needs to be near the City and decent Public Transport. If you dont rebuild or replace the Gabba you are likely going to need to do so anyway within the near-term or medium-term.

[@jonnies]

I just had a huge tax bill so believe me, I noticed.

[@ahhughes123]

You are 100% correct. Brisbane need to learn from what Adelaide & Melbourne did wrong. Football Park and Waverly Park absolute failures. Hamilton, Nathan and even Woolloongabba are never going to be what Brisbane needs. Similarly, a Boondall entertainment centre. My 2c is they need to knock down QPAC, the convention center and maybe the ABC building... and build the new stadium ABOVE South Brisbane train station. This would cost an absolute fortune... but imagine how good it would be. The location, the transport and how amazing it would look on TV. Now is the time to build something that will be seen as an absolute asset to the people of Brisbane for generations to come, not some half baked band-aid solution - and my view has NOTHING to do with a 2 week blip called the Olympics.

[@BigBlueMan118]

@ahhughes123 South Brisbane Station is not on Cross River Rail or the Ipswich Line though so it's location is nowhere near as good as current.

[@Gary-vv5gt]

@@ahhughes123 I like your 2c, combine that with the idea of an retractable stadium so its can host both rectangular and oval sports or even a third layer for concerts without damaging pitch. Yeah going to cost a fourtune but its not just olympics but for the future of brissy..... brissy has the opportunity which sydney seem to let it fart by... to build a solid capacity stadium right in the heart of the city. If I were to decide on Sydney case, I wouldn't have flogged off barangaroo to the highest office wanks or crown, I would use that to put in a high 70-100k muliti-use stadium in that corner of the CBD and have parkland surrounding the stadium.

[@lukesimpson3080]

Has Palavax been booted from the Olympic board

[@tersy9862]

Let private developers build the one at Hamilton no Cost to the taxpayers'

[@woodvineandco]

The gabba rebuild would be a real disappointment. If you're going to do something don't half ass it. Make it something we can be proud of at least.

[@russellhorsefield9199]

Victoria Park as I said firstly it is on a flood plain but technology had change things since 50 years when we had The Commonwealth Games. In order to get Brisbane up to speed with other Olympics Cities we need to spend upon $100billion . With The Brisbane Lions asking for a new stadium as they can guarantee 50,000 bums on seats everytime they have a home game. While Vic Park is getting built The Lions can still play at The Gabba instead of a half baked field at Springfield.

[@electro_sykes]

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[@paulfri1569]

Sweet 🎂

[@TOTN17]

I doubt Miles will oppose the new plans whatever they may be Miles only chose QSAC because it was the only option in a safe ALP Seat

[@jaserobert2758]

How about doing the right thing and forgetting all about the Olympics.

[@TheIrritsBand]

Absolutely! A useless event that will bring nothing but chaos and line the pickets of 5 rich hypocrites with more than enough already

[@electro_sykes]

Not to mention security threats with all the Muslims that will be coming into the country

[@joshski85]

@@electro_sykes Lol what?

[@andy00644]

@@electro_sykesthat’s a stupid comment. Muslims are the least of the problems in today’s world.

[@rupertwilliams1349]

@@electro_sykes you lost any credibility by making this comment

[@LaurensKop]

You would think that the AFL would be incredibly invested in getting the Gabba upgraded. Would they not put forward the idea that gather round could go to Brisbane for three+ years to help the cause? it was estimated that in Adelaide gather round brought over 80 million to the economy. It would make it easier for politicians spend more if they could point to the money that would be coming their way over the coming years from the investment.

[@farmerooni]

The AFL doesn't like the Gabba even with an upgrade. They have issues with the outdated change rooms and back-end team facilities, which probably can't be addressed properly with a Gabba upgrade scenario. As per the video, they also want more corporate boxes to generate more revenue as well. Which doesn't seem possible just retrofitting an existing stadium. There's also costing issues with refit vs. knock-down-rebuild, with the Quirk led report actually favouring a brand-new rebuild as the more sensible option.

[@markbph2336]

transfer the games to sydney or melbourne..... if they want them....! not enough stadium nor transport infrastructure in brisbane.... nor the money to fix this in the next 5-6 years. having said this brisbane needs a stadium like optus stadium in perth withinn the next 10-15 years....!

[@electro_sykes]

Make it an Australian games. Host some events in Sydney, some in Melbourne, some here in SEQ, some events in Adelaide and some events in Perth.

[@electro_sykes]

Why not make it an Australia Games. Host some events in Sydney, some in Melbourne, some in SEQ, some in Adelaide and some in Perth. Brilliant idea

[@electro_sykes]

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[@markbph2336]

@electro_sykes makes sense...!

[@StevenGrace]

Wow. Money means nothing these days. Dropping billions as if it's merely spare change.

[@StellarJones]

Just knock down the useless good for nothing cricket ground Gabba and build a proper international standard stadium.

[@michaeldamiani3436]

That is a wipeout. ALP got ripped .

[@BrianOliver-c4b]

Hey I know where we can get 40 billion dollars from but if I say it they will say that’s racism 😂

[@Angel-nr8td]

Come on put a new gabba in

[@BigBlueMan118]

For me a Gabba rebuild or replacement is the best option as you are going to need to redo it at some point in the medium-term anyway. Victoria Park would also be OK but without the history.

[@TOTN17]

Even if you get rid of the school the site is too small for an Oval Stadium of a decent size, Victoria Park is the better choice in the long run

[@farmerooni]

Finally a comment about the one issue not being mentioned: nostalgia. I don't go to the Gabba to watch AFL, and I only watched cricket there after becoming an adult. So I'm not emotionally invested in the stadium or location. Having said that, is it really a deal breaker to move to a new site? I never thought the Gabba was that good of a location: no adjacent public space to gather around pre-game, no room to spill out onto after the game ends. And the resulting traffic chaos (and queing to get onto a bus) is just annoying. Is history that big a factor when considering a new stadium site?

[@BigBlueMan118]

@@TOTN17 a decent size meaning what? Brisbane will be lucky to have 10 events per year that need an oval Stadium higher capacity than 40k. If the Victoria Park option gets chosen can we Turn the Gabba into a boutique 15k rectangular stadium for smaller soccer+rugby games then?

[@russellhorsefield9199]

@@BigBlueMan118 Not being sexist in any shape or form but cricket should still stay there at the Gabba as the only thing that would change is it is the women's turn on the hallow turf and get away from that crap venue called Alan Border Field formally Newnman Oval of the Valleys Diehards.

[@BigBlueMan118]

@russellhorsefield9199 right so at least be honest with what you're proposing here with that comment - you want the only major rugby-soccer ground to stay at the overworked and massive suncorp, whilst you are increasing the total maintenance bill for a continually-marginalised and under-utilised cricket-only irrelevance at the Gabba which will also need a rebuild within the medium-term.

[@strikerbowls791]

Albanese should step in and order the stadium at Victoria Park.

[@advdad1129]

Scrap the Olympics altogether Put Queen Anistasia out of here self appointed Grifting Job

[@JimsCS2]

Just need the olympics completely cancelled now.

[@arthurwatts1680]

Let's spend a few million and six more months on another report.

[@russellhorsefield9199]

Crisafulli wants that report within 100 days which means early January before the first sitting in parliament.

[@russellhorsefield9199]

Labour can whinge all they like as the election is done and dusted . If Crisafilli can put this together then he will stay as premier otherwise milsy might be back.

[@arthurwatts1680]

@russellhorsefield9199 gotta admire your optimism, particularly when the period in question will require people to work through the silly season. Anything before March 1 will be considered exceptional.

[@jmull91]

How it’s taken 3 years to finally get to this point is beyond me.

[@OilHutJones]

Because it's a spectacular tin-eared and stupid idea.

[@BDub2024]

Surely Brisbane need a decent stadium for cricket, AFL, concerts and other events. With the amount of Indian population coming in, you could get big cricket crowds again in the future. Certainly even hold IPL matches and bring the tourists in. AFL will hopefully keep growing and so on.

[@electro_sykes]

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[@conorchristmas6844]

Brisbane needs a new stadium regardless of the Olympics so this shouldn’t even be an Olympic matter. What makes it an Olympic matter is that the dimensions of this stadium will need to suit track and field events for the games but I think even that’s a stretch. Remember grace grace said that the reason Victoria park won’t work is because it had no warm up track? 😅 her comment flung me so far to the LNP at that point.

[@cameronporter5257]

I actually think a joint partnership in Hamilton is the best bet. If the private sector focuses on the stadium, that allows the government to focus on the public transport link. Somewhere in Tennyson near Pat Rafter Arena may work as well if they restore Tennyson station to the QR service line.

[@electro_sykes]

m.youtube.com/@electro_sykes/community That was literally my idea, but as an entire Olympic park

[@electro_sykes]

That was my idea but as an Olympic park m.youtube.com/@electro_sykes/community

[@brianhornsby954]

Victoria park build 100000 stadium

[@coasterblocks3420]

Victoria Park can’t be used for the stadiums - it’s held in trust as public open space.

[@russellhorsefield9199]

The new stadium is a public asset. Grow a brain.

[@BrianOliver-c4b]

The olympics we ca T afford or want

[@B-tr9kz]

Just rebuild the Gabba. If the Lions want to complain, tell them to go back to Victoria. Save the big upgrade for the number 1 sport in the state and upgrade Suncorp or build a new rectangular stadium. You're more likely to fill it consistently.

[@Gary-vv5gt]

The issue with Suncorp is that its only limited to like 20 games per year for crowds over 30k, which isn't actually good for rectangular sports (and if you whack in international soccer games or if the brissy roar make it into finals or concerts and even big brissy nrl games) that will get eaten up quickly. That why i came up with the idea of making that new stadium retractable for both pitch and seating. Yeah i will agree keeping suncorp, but renovate it to like 30k and have bigger games played at the new stadium, also due to the land around Suncorp, its can't really be expanded any bigger than the 52k and also moot if they are restricted to 20 games over 30k.