New Record for the 72V Razor MX650 Supermoto Electric Dirt Bike Range

[@javon161]

do the e300 people dont do them often im working on one now myself

[@PatOutdoors]

Yeah I’m actually planning out a build already. Thinking of doing hub motor conversion also

[@javon161]

@@PatOutdoors wow I didn’t think of that good idea saves on the space from dealing with the motor since it’s hard to mount when you go up in watts. Im usually just against hubs on bikes but I guess it suits scooters

[@DescartesRenegade]

​@@PatOutdoorsI'm planning a hub motor build on an sx500 with extended swing arm. 17 front and rear. I think it'll be the first

[@WESTBOUND602]

So much fun cruisin the Mini Moto!

[@PatOutdoors]

I have bigger bikes, but just love cruising the minis

[@Dolittlemx650]

The battery pack that is in the description isn’t available now, so what battery would you recommend it now around the same price?

[@Huckeys2]

Hotpaxx has batteries for a reasonable price, search them up

[@sebastianking633]

Hey pat just wondering how much range you think I will get running a 72 volt 20 ah battery and a ku ray kr5v and a far driver nd72450 thanks

[@PatOutdoors]

That’s all depending on how much power you set it to, what kind of speed you’ll be cruising at, rider weight, what kind of terrain, etc.. I’m this video, I was only pulling 50-60 amps (4000ish watts) at the time so I was able to get a lot of range. Assuming you turn your razor up to 10kw, but only cruising half throttle at 25ish MPh, maybe about 15-18 miles

[@sebastianking633]

@ thanks so much

[@ILikePotatoes_Vr1]

What’s the top speed I’m thinking of building one

[@Armor220]

Hey Pat, do you know which of the 3 wires coming from the 3-speed throttle connector is for the LOW speed? Building this for my teenage son and only want him on the low speed for a while….

[@PatOutdoors]

So for some reason I have not been able to get it to work correctly. But I connected to the Kelly with the Bluetooth dongle to go over the electro & co settings. I noticed all (3) speeds were set to 100%. So you can just connect to the Kelly and change the speed limit to 50% for your son.

[@Armor220]

@@PatOutdoors thanks! We’re still using the Kunray controller for now. Hope to upgrade to Kelly next year.

[@Official_boggy]

what kind of seat do u have for the bike?

[@PatOutdoors]

I reupholstered the factory seat with softer marine vinyl

[@WESTBOUND602]

Surron seat from Luna Cycles. And the mounting brackets for the seat from ETSY. Looks amazing!

[@landonyi9771]

What voltage does it die out at?

[@Huckeys2]

I think it cuts out at 60

[@oem_spec]

E&c extreme kit with ec4p & trumoto noisy cricket next 🚀

[@IvyBuilt]

Hey! I know you currently (from my knowledge) have a fully built 48v overvolted bike, with a 72v controller and battery but what’s stopping you from getting a 72v motor if they only go for about 200$? Is it too big for the frame? Asking for my personal build thank you

[@PatOutdoors]

Nothing! Just waiting for the original motor to fail before I justify the purchase of an EC4P motor as an upgrade once it does.

[@IvyBuilt]

@@PatOutdoors Thanks for the response! One more thing, why did you go for 20ah instead of 30ah?

[@PatOutdoors]

All I could afford at the time. Also wanted to make sure it could FIT inside the plastic covers without modification@@IvyBuilt

[@dogseeker6549]

What size brake rotor do you need for the same brakes you're using with stock forks?

[@PatOutdoors]

It would take a lot of modification to use a pit-bike caliper on a regular fork.. I would not suggest it unless you have a pit-bike fork. 195mm. Most bolt on solution is to use the Zoom MTB hydraulic front brake with a 160mm brake rotor that has a 48mm bolt hole pattern.

[@ThomasM-xl6fl]

Did you need a new wheel set for the supermotos or is stock fine ?

[@PatOutdoors]

Nope, still stock wheels on these tires!

[@xpndblhero5170]

How do you run a 48v motor and a 72v battery and controller¿?

[@PatOutdoors]

The Kelly controller is programmed to run a 72v battery. People seem to often misunderstand the voltage on the my1020 motor is irrelevant. It’s a 2000w motor that happened to just come with my original 48v kit. When it eventually fails, it will be upgraded to a higher wattage motor

[@breadtoast558]

What does the full build without the accesories cost?

[@PatOutdoors]

What accessories am I taking out of the build list? The hydraulic fork? The whole thing including the bike (new) was about $2,100 at this point

[@cookingwithdrew2790]

Getting ready to build an MX 650 want to keep it around 48 V but want to have about 100 amp hours of battery how long do you think the range would be

[@PatOutdoors]

I’ve never heard of anybody fitting a 100AH battery in a razor before.. only maybe 40ah at the most. It’s a tiny frame. Did you mean 100Amp peak current?

[@anthonymoy4471]

How fast do you go with that 72 20amp hour battery?

[@PatOutdoors]

50 mph with a 14-tooth sprocket flat ground and 10x3.5” rear street tire, extended swing arm, and Kelly controller

[@MooseRidez]

The ecosmart use 36v and my1020 motors. Could be an easy build and relatively cheap

[@PatOutdoors]

I’ll look into it. Also looking for something with a lot of room for a massive battery

[@MooseRidez]

@PatOutdoors I'll probably get a vid going here shortly on a a pocket mod I helped build. Stripped the frame, kelly kls (300amp version) surron 60v battery and enc 1020+. At 200 amp it wants to backflip. I turned it down to 60 amps and it'll still power wheelie with me being 220lbs lol. But if this small thing can hold that massive size of a battery I'm sure the ecosmart can fit something even bigger from amorge 😉

[@WESTBOUND602]

@@PatOutdoors Have ya checked out my RSF 6000? 76v 26ah. That thing ripps it's almost to fast.

[@DescartesRenegade]

​@@PatOutdoorsthe ecosmart has the largest amount of room under that deck of any scooter I've seen. The downfall is that it has no suspension. The eZip1000 scooter would be a nice candidate as well, that has full front and rear suspension.

[@christianortiz6177]

i need u to help me build my razor my guy can u help me ????

[@PatOutdoors]

How so?

[@BigMoney-m1e]

For these dirt bikes you always need tools

[@thermodynamics1110]

no don't do e300 scooter. its too ancient. the scooter itself is not designed to go fast, you'll know if you see it in person. and not enough room inside the deck and its just too ancient design and that makes it unsafe.

[@PatOutdoors]

Too late lmao, but I discovered this myself a month after this video

[@joshuarios6288]

Make it gas powered

[@MooseRidez]

Completely defeats the purpose. Cost of gas, smell, noise, legal issues. Just ain't worth it when you have more torque on a ebike and cause just plug it in to charge if need be.

[@xpndblhero5170]

That's a sin w/ it's own layer in the depths of hell... LoL

[@WESTBOUND602]

Just build a RSF6000. 6000W motor, 6000w controller, 76v 26ah battery. I'm doin over 50mph. 13 tooth front, 72 in the back.

[@DescartesRenegade]

​@@WESTBOUND602I just bought a Tesla model S. It does a mid 10s 1/4 mile. See how you don't care?

[@jayppop3333]

Got to do a critical mass ride bro they're fun 🤜🤛