NEW Red Dot Range Finder From Bear Creek Arsenal

[@amp-uspsashootingsports4336]

2moa would be great. I wonder how it'd pair with a magnifier. I know there would be a small amount of screen obstruction, but the little extra zoom could utilize the range ability a bit better, no? I can see this being very useful for 300BO with an illuminated half circle and some bdc marks.

[@Cognosapien]

I just found out about this and I'm really impressed! It would be cool to also have the option of this as a compact rangefinder-only option, that could be mounted on top of a scope, or alternatively used on its own but with a pic rail on top for someone to mount their miniaturized red dot of choice.

[@Motorboatmike]

Would be dope on a magnified prism, like a 3-5x prism optic with the range finder

[@ethanheath2537]

I like the concept but I don't like the 4 moa dot kinda defeats the purpose

[@TheYamitaven]

Agreed a 1 moa would be best

[@grantdeisig1360]

Probably a bit to big, but I've always just turned down the brightness to make my dot smaller. But this could just be a benefit of my blurry eye sight. My new sightmark mini shot is a 3moa dot and I think its perfect for 100 yards and in.

[@squachosmashgamingps4433]

Id personally say run this on a angled mount with a 6 to 16 scope take all the guess work out with a budget friendly and quickly available option and the option to be set up for those close range engagements with targets and pests.

[@ethanheath2537]

@@squachosmashgamingps4433 I could see value paired to a scoped platform on a 45 mount although it's quite large for the 45 mount

[@xxdizannyxx]

@squachosmashgamingps4433 sounds like you shoot at the range at paper and don't carry guns outdoors. Just throw a dumbell on your rifle while you're at it.

[@RedPill556]

I like the range finder, But it would be more useful on an optic .How about doing a 12 gauge AR upper for the .308 AR lowers .

[@mwoods5166]

Great innovation but 2 moa dot or an etched prism with a bdc would be amazing too

[@mrshort2379]

Dude way to go man!! Now that impressed me BCA is raising up through the Ranks in my book. climbing up to be one of the top Firearms Manufacturer in the country it is awesome sitting back watching y'all grow while innovating the industry as well but I am still waiting for that Bufferless AR-15 calibers. Great content awesome product if it holds up to the torture and punishment you know we all will put it through

[@shawnmay5875]

It would be cool to see a flip magnifier with range finder

[@AA-fg3wj]

That would be great for 300 black out using subsonic loads.

[@xvprototype123882]

finally, some good innovation.

[@chaseme9860]

If someone really knew what people needed, they would make a range finder that adjusts the red dot elevation automatically.

[@AllThingsLoud_]

Sig alteady has something similar. It’s binoculars with a built in range finder and it Bluetooth to their scope. Once you use the rangefinder, it sends the data to your scope identifying the holdover or something like that.

[@wendellbell6164]

@@AllThingsLoud_ yes , you are correct. I shot a big bear this year with that sig scope and rangefinder. Steep hillsides and longer ranges is where it shines. Wind is the biggest proablem to overcome.

[@metalwizard23]

I agree that was my first question... Of course it would need to know your drop and tgat could change with the load your shooting..

[@roscoeennis4230]

I remember using a scope when I was about 12/13 years old (1981 or 1982) that my fathers coworker had. It was a bolt action surplus gun. It had foreign marks on the scope( Russian or some Slavic language ?). It had cross hairs that he set for 200 meters dead on. It also had these circle dots under the cross hairs . They got bigger as they got lower and further apart. He said it was designed to be a sniper rifle scope. He said if a humans head fit inside the dot you could hit someone in the head because people's heads are close in size USUALLY even if their bodies werent. He then started shooting the one gallon jugs we placed in the field. He was hitting them out to 600 yards with the circles. He let me shoot it. If the gallon jug ( about human head size ) fit in the circle and wind wasn't blowing I would make head shot everytime. The wind would blow and I would miss left or right but elevation was spot on. I thought it was a genius idea. Never could find out about this scope , remember he said it was very rare and expensive. He was a foreigner and the engineers boss where my dad worked. A few years ago I saw a similar sighting system on a scope that used lines instead of the circle. Let me tell you those circles made gallon jug ( head size shots ) very very easy . Wish they made scopes like that now.

[@anthonyarmstrong734]

Burris eliminator

[@stephenthatcher8355]

Is this compatible with PVS14s? I may acquire one of these for a KZbin review.

[@moshkid16]

Is this possible to create in a 1-6x40 lpvo format? With a illuminated BDC or christmas tree reticle? this is a great concept. First time hearing about this.

[@grantwade3423]

Where’s the button that activates the rangefinder for manual acquisition? Can it be mounted down somewhere where you don’t have to take your eye off target?

[@tttd3e]

Battery life? Waterproof/Shockproof rating? Warranty?

[@boog3690]

Multi reticles one circle dot (donut of death) for CQB, one with BDC like the ACSS that stays true when you switch from one to the other so you could use a 3x-5x flip to side magnifier to take better distance shots at least out to 300 yards. Now that would make sense. Although this might work on a 350 Legend build or a 7.62 build that you wouldn't take a shot over 200 yards anyways.

[@josh66l31]

Y’all’s prices are amazing!! I’m looking to buy my first AR-15 762x39, y’all have some great deals and prices!! Thank yall

[@Bear_Creek_Arsenal]

Thank you!

[@recon1986]

Does this red dot range finder work good with a flip up 3x magnifier?

[@vonster22]

GREAT FOR MOVING TARGETS...LIKE A SPOOKED 10 POINT IN BRUSH COUNTRY:) BRACKETVILLE TX

[@SilverShamrockNovelties]

Yeah. It means nothing without a BDC reticle to take advantage of the information.

[@chrissewell1608]

That is what I was thinking. If you don't have the various elevation lines, or DOTS, then this info is useless on a red dot. Unless you are damn good at Kentucky Windage, and can adjust for elevation on the fly. (It might as well show the air temperature!)

[@joebi-wan-kenobi5069]

They could have it auto-adjust the dot position based on range. Dial range and put in some holdovers manually and have it calculate others based on that. Laser engagement on a pressure switch like a weapon light, long press to range, release to compensate for drop, tap to reset. This serves no purpose currently other than maybe being useful for sighting in initially.

[@toddk1377]

@@joebi-wan-kenobi5069 That still wouldn't work as it will have to be programmed on specific cartridges and there's a lot of factors that go into ballistics, especially for 5.56/223, such as grain, barrel length, 5.56 or 223 loadings, velocities, ect. You'd have to Chrono the ammunition, input the data, and it will have to have a processor capable of doing that. If they did, that's easily a $700-$1000 optic. The added value is not there for a range finder on a basic red dot, not when I can buy a range finder off Amazon for $80 and use it for all my firearms and in the field. If it has a bdc, then it would open up the market and as long as it was really shock proof and has a good IP rating along with acceptable battery life, I think they would have one helluva optic on their hands.

[@shields3348]

Says online that the case it comes with is waterproof, but doesn’t say about the optic. What is the red dot/rangefinder rated?

[@mikereese15]

Sounds pretty awesome!

[@MillardMcComis]

I would love to see this with a 2 moa dot

[@Santi4131og]

Is so f-in cool specially at the price point. Man I want one!

[@VEX_VICTORIOUS]

make one with 1 or 2 moa and make it enclosed instead!

[@CorbinMusso88]

Sounds like it would be a good optic for spotter on a two man team.

[@jcgardner5852]

Nice idea love ranging help

[@randysizemore2359]

It will take me a little bit to save the money up for it but that is something that i can really use my grandkids in me love the targets you in my young issue is eleven hands trouble using arrangements binder and with that i believe do it so much better thank you for coming out with the product like that

[@Mike_Y.]

So cool, got me interested

[@darktrojan00]

Please make an 18" socom profile rifle lenght gas system and if possible with 5r rifling, there are a LOT of people wanting to do a cheap mk12 clone and the 5r rifling would be a competitive advantage also

[@rocketfilms9504]

I’m trying to build a mk12 clone too bro

[@12345678971926]

I’m confused with this toy how do you use it?

[@wilemelliott]

do they make a version of the range finder with a Pic rail on top? I prefer a prism sight [astigmatism] and that would be great as a riser for something like the Primary Arms Cyclops.

[@gg9xfrx4m30]

Who is it made by?

[@georgehoward8185]

Good concept would be better if it was at least 2 moa.

[@deeno313bababa]

Awesome good work

[@patrickgill9837]

I’m going to order one, I hope they are sweet as you say.

[@kevb5802]

Maybe some little red/green dots that are open like that one.. I seen that one but I don't really need it, would love to be able to co-witness with folding iron sights.

[@kevb5802]

Probably have to make your own irons that way you'd know for 100% certainty that we are getting the best co-witness possible on iron

[@thewarnerCHANNEL]

Great concept. Tho I know red dots are not for precision. It would be nice to have something that measures distance like a range finder but also tells you elevation to hit the target. Primary arms makes good red dots for that BUT it would be nice to have a laser digital feedback with elevation tilt feedback too. ALTHOUGH, great concept! I can see this evolving for better applications

[@hpfuhl]

ATN makes scopes and an ABL range finder that do that.

[@thewarnerCHANNEL]

@@hpfuhl really?, thanks def gonna check it out

[@toddk1377]

I don't see this dot being useful in very many applications. Not without some type of bdc.

[@dandetande288]

@@hpfuhl atn as a company are making bad products and bad customer service 🤦

[@johnboivt]

if you have a 4moa dot, why do you need a range finder? its not like you need to know the target is 300 yards away - your dot will be covering 12 inches of it!

[@Dblunts]

Need this with a chevron reticle and hold overs.

[@XaviarJS]

Is this made by Henrich technology Co. ?

[@BravoJulietAlpha]

Yes

[@shanecolunga2484]

Less red dots more green dots please. For astigmatism the dot is no longer 4moa it's more like 7-8 moa. For accuracy how about a 2 moa green dot. I for 1 have replaced all(3) red dots for 2moa green dots. I use a vortex strike eagle II w/the option of green or red. I'm not as accurate with my 5.56 as I am w/my Marlin model 60 at any distance, just goes to show familiarity is a factor when using any firearm.

[@nicgandos]

Will there be a green dot version?

[@jackedburton7639]

I bet this would go great with my VR80 12ga but as my superpower is astigmatism I would need the dot to be green.

[@z33thr33]

I think this just might be absolutely perfect for my 50 cal PCP repeater.

[@ReeceM69]

Can’t wait to order one

[@chrissewell1608]

I think a digital range finder would be a perfect addition to a BDC scope. Especially for precision shooting & hunting! Offset mount this on your hunting rifle, and use it for ranging game only, and its a good idea. But it appears to big and bulky for that. As for a combat sight, it might be good. But with out various distance dots, it seems kind of useless for precision shooting. And a 4 MOA dot at 100 yards is just to big for accurate shots hunting. The good thing about red dots has always been, you set it, and forget it. Then start drilling targets. You know you didn't range it to 259 yards. And no true marksman / hunter would attempt shooting beyond their guns range. I like the concept here. I just don't think its perfected. Go back to the manufacturer and tell them you need elevation dots, or remove the red dot and mount it upon a scope!

[@TheYamitaven]

Elevation dots and 1moa dots would be a great addition

[@toddk1377]

A dot in itself is no good in this application. I can find decent range finders at the local sporting goods shop, on Amazon, Ebay, wherever, for less than $150 and they work and it's not hard to carry it on your person. I've never seen a respected hunter not using a rangefinder or markers to judge their distance. That said, without some type of bdc, imo, this optic is merely a gimmick to make money. Also the fact there's no mention of an auto on feature, which if there's an auto shut off, it should be in hours not minutes, and there's no IP rating for the optic. I can say anything is water proof, but I'd rather know the testing was done to determine the IP rating. If the battery life is that bad, they need to invest in better omitters, as it should get at least 2-5k hrs of battery life. CR-2 batteries are too expensive if the life is less than 1k hours.

[@TheYamitaven]

@@toddk1377 are you living under a bridge?

[@toddk1377]

@@TheYamitaven I live on top of the bridge 😉

[@jonbravo9278]

Shrink it down and mount it at 45 degree. Take my money

[@yetisuncle666]

this is a VERY similar idea i had thought up years ago. thank you for making this thing. i have got to get my grubby mitts on one of these bad mofos.

[@bigdawg3319]

Can you cant this? Theoretically? Run this and a 4x acog?

[@Bear_Creek_Arsenal]

The Red Dot attaches onto the picatinny rail, as long as the canted mount is picatinny then it would be possible. The Red Dot alone can not be canted

[@bigdawg3319]

@@Bear_Creek_ArsenalThat would be my ideal setup. Trijicon 4x Acog ontop. Side mounted Bear Creek Arsenal Red dot. Im trying to figure out width wise if the red dot would be too wide and get in the way, but I can’t imagine it would

[@gwit247]

This looks neat

[@goodcitizen3780]

Now wtf is it called so we can find the dayum thing?

[@Jerry-Parker]

Awesome ! 👍

[@billbeam8069]

Good video

[@Dahbz14]

We need an upper with a digital rounds counter if you guys want to put a display on something…

[@ocean374]

That’s pretty cool

[@tymccutchen]

Price? 🥴

[@hiwayman64]

Interesting

[@matty54379]

make a shotgun upper for ar 10

[@nickjohnson8780]

Where is it made?

[@matty54379]

in panda land

[@americanpatriotbill]

Lighten the uppers a little...kinda heavy

[@scottcombs6993]

Ooh! Someone needs to invent a scope with a built in range finder that automatically adjusts your crosshairs…a smart scope.

[@ravenovatechnologies6554]

Sig sauer makes it, and it is AMAZING.

[@scombs62]

@@ravenovatechnologies6554 Oh great! Now I want one!

[@preacherbiggin]

Burris Eliminator line does.

[@vonster22]

THAT SYNCS WITH YOUR SMART PHONE...YEAH AND ATF CAN DETERMINE IT ILLEGAL AND SHUT R DOWN REAL TIME...NO THANKS...

[@vonster22]

BUT MAYBE S0MEDAY AFTER WE DEFUND THEM...THAT WOULD BE COOL

[@pistolgrip44mag]

Need a prism. Bet it's expensive AF.

[@jdmonly87]

The site is showing 299.

[@roberthenry4033]

I love my Ak way more than my AR. Any future options for that? Will it compensate for the different round?

[@918Mitchell]

Not a fan of red dots, but I love the concept. A bow sight with built in range finder would be awesome.

[@bobbyboucher3718]

Garmin Zero A1.....$800 though🤔

[@AllThingsLoud_]

Where the hell did you get $800 from? It says $300 on the website

[@bobbyboucher3718]

@@AllThingsLoud_ Read dude, he was asking about a bow sight range finder....Garmin Zero A1!

[@chrissewell1608]

I think someone makes that already. It ain't cheap!

[@TheYamitaven]

@@AllThingsLoud_ ignorance at its finest. Clearly says garmin zero a1 not bcard

[@macadamion74]

I would like have the end plate and bufferless bcg as a kit. I don't need the upper barrel lower none of that. I just want the parts.

[@Joe-sh2tf]

How much is it and when does it come out to the public!

[@kevb5802]

It's already out just check BCA

[@Iamgroot377]

Wouldve been nice if you actually showed the product.

[@toddk1377]

I don't see the point. Any red dot is only as good as the firearms zero. If I mounted this on a 350 legend for example, and the range was 200 yards and I have a 100 yard zero, how in the world am I going to know how much hold over? I can't effectively measure the hold over through this optic using a simple dot in relation to the target. If I know my drop is 2.3 or however many moa/mills at 200 yards, I can't measure that with a 4 moa dot, that's still very difficult to do with any dot. Yes a 200 yard zero can fix this, but then what's the point of the rangefinder being added? If the only reason is to confirm it's beyond range, that's not an added benefit that's worth the extra price imo. I can only see it being beneficial for the zero. Personally, I'd ditch the 4 moa red dot, as I see this more as a marketing gimmick than a useful tool, have a cross hair instead with a 1 moa dot center hold or a Chevron with a bdc in moa or mill dot. Then we can use that to calculate how much hold over we have in that optic. I can't tell if I'm holding over 6" or a foot on a deer at 150-200 yards, especially not with a 4 moa dot. Now if there was a cross hair or Chevron with moa/mill or even half moa/mil markings or dots, that would work and would definitely get a lot more people on board. On the website, there's no battery life mentioned or how shock resistant it was, didn't even give an IP rating. So as of right now, this optic has no advantage over a pinty red dot I can find on Amazon for $30. I'm not hating or trying to be negative, I'm just giving constructive criticism. Let's say those changes were made and the price point is the same or even $50 less, which if I'm being honest here, an aimpoint pro is not much more and neither is a basic eotech, which are well known and proven optics. I think $300 for a Chinese and unproven optic, especially such as this with a 4 moa dot that is practically useless in a lot of cases for a lot of calibers, is too much. The auto shut off feature is not a good quality to have if there's no auto on. I'd like to see 704 tactical and FocussTrip test these optics out and see how they hold up to drop tests, water bottle tests, and so forth. Where I do see a huge benefit of adding a digital range finder, is on lpvo's, fixed power optics, and magnified optics, those that have a mildot/moa dot/hash mark reticle. I like my PA ACSS optics, as we can range the target based on the reticle and sizing, but that takes a moment and can be hard to do at times. This would make it easy, especially being in just mils or moa, that makes it universal for most firearms in most calibers. I can see the added value for that on magnified optics, I just can't on a red dot, at least not one that is just a dot and no reticle or some type of bdc.

[@larrymarsico4059]

🤙👊💪🇺🇲

[@ceronv]

Dang send me one for real world Review

[@gregmckinley9774]

Handy

[@zackdooley2919]

Now add it to a rifle scope so it isn't useless.

[@itsjustjoe3790]

Oh man… new upper or optic… If I get the new optic I’ll have to get a new upper to try it on and if I get a new upper I’m going to need a new optic…

[@recon1986]

The biggest question I have is. Is the red dot/range finder and housing EMP proof... it would be kinda pointless if we get invaded and they set off an EMP.

[@andrespates-bq9cl]

How can it tell what toure shooting, in order to even give you the range?

[@TheYamitaven]

Great concept, poor workmanship put some drop dots in and make them 1moa but for 300 i would buy a good dot for 150-200 and a hand held rangefinder for another 100-120.

[@toddk1377]

I really don't even see the need for a range finder with a red dot. The red dot is only as good as the firearms zero. It's easy to range out objects and stuff to use as range markers. Until there's a bdc reticle, I see very limited use for this particular sight and imo, with very limited information, not worth the $300. A PA optic with the ACSS reticles solves both in one package and they are reliable and durable.

[@TheYamitaven]

@@toddk1377 congratulations you have won tbe award for repeating what people say and a range finder helps hunters in the stand, kinda difficult to range an animal lookin down through trees just go watch outlaws 2014 rifle season he gets a 13p and hits it at 90yds but says it was further out before he got down from the stand and actually sees the distance so i hope your perfect eyes can tell you everything you need to know little keyboard warrior.

[@toddk1377]

@@TheYamitaven You're welcome and what do I win?? Keyboard warrior? Nah, I'm just speaking based on experience. I've hunted deer from MI, OH, NE, and Missouri. Hunted plenty of small game such as coyotes is all these states as well and I never used a red dot, always a magnified optic or irons. It's not that hard to range out an object such as a fence post or a tree or bush and use it as a distance marker. Learning to shoot from elevated positions isn't hard either, haven't you ever practiced shooting targets from your tree stand? It's not a hard learning curve. No need to get your panties in a twist.

[@TheYamitaven]

@@toddk1377 all those state and no use for a dot you must not be in woods you must be in fields and wide open places because here in va we have plenty of use for just a dot while hunting and as for ranging things out with some fence post and elevation what if you have no fence posts to use all you have is 78yds with trees in between a dot will be your best friend and you will no longer be a keyboard warrior when you stop trying to explain all the things that YOU dont like about everything

[@toddk1377]

@@TheYamitaven Between using illuminated reticle style optics and iron sights. Been using the ACSS reticles for a long while with good success but it takes time to range the target and can be difficult when it's on the move. So the thought of this sight was definitely intriguing to me. NE was hunting fields. All they have is corn and an occasional tree, didn't matter if it was deer, coyotes, prairie dogs. OH was wooded and shotgun only so a bead sight was fine and I used an illuminated reticle 3-9 optic on my Ruger mini 14 when I'd hunt for coyotes, would a red dot have worked? Yes, but we didn't have good reliable red dots like we do now back then. Missouri was kinda both, but I used my 30-30 with irons and that was just for deer. MI, heavily wooded areas, especially swamps for deer and open ranges for coyotes, especially around livestock farms. I can see where this red dot optic may have it's uses, but the jist of what I'm getting at, the way it is, it fits in a very limited market. Do I like idea of a digital range finder on an optic? Hell yeah I do. I was actually going to use a red dot for my 350 Legend, which I figured would be perfect, but I went with an Atibal at first. While it seems like a great rds, my problem was it wouldn't dim enough so in low light it would make it super hard to see the target, especially a deer as it starts to camouflage with it's surroundings. Switched to a Northtac Ronin P11. So far so good. Be my first season using a red dot on a rifle. To get around all the ballistic drop and stuff like that, I took a page out of Ron Spomer's book and zeroed it for maximum point blank range at 150 yards. I actually zeroed it 1 1/2" high at 100 and verified at 150 and my drop at 200 yards, but this will only work for game who's vitals are 8" and larger. I'll have to use a scope for smaller targets to get that precision but that's not what I wanted the 350 for anyway. I'm also using a 2 moa dot though, not a 4 moa. In the swamps my ranges are no more than maybe 50 yards in all directions, too thick, but I walk past a few fields that are about 150 or so yards, this is why I did my set up the way I did. I just don't understand why they choose a 4 moa dot and such a short auto off feature. I understand it's a gen 1 model, but if these are AR guys, they should know people like some precision and the ratings of the sight which they do not provide, are important features for people to compare and contrast. Lastly the price. $299 for this optic doesn't make sense to me, not with very limited info and in my case, not a 4 moa dot. We can buy some pretty decent red dots for $150 and less all day long and the same for an actual range finder should we need it and we know the ratings on said red dot. That's where I'm coming from. I'm irritated because it's a good thought and something a lot of people, hunters and plinkers alike, could use, but I feel they came pretty short as far where in the market it fits with it's limited features. Make sense? I may be coming off kinda harsh, but these guys at BCA aren't stupid, they're pretty smart, so part of my disappointment is the fact I expected them to execute such a good idea a little better.

[@wags115]

Not a fan of 4 moa. Too big.

[@danielcurtis1434]

I don’t think any “long range shooter” is running BCA!!! There affordable and from what I’ve read their accurate. However I feel their maybe aiming high??? Hey I could be wrong… But seriously a 4 MOA dot at 100 yards is big and inaccurate by any red dot principles!!! I’m very glad their in business as I’m very low income. However why not try to build the bust budget AR rather than trying for this stuff??? I both applaud their stance but don’t understand it??? But there’s a reason their still in business and I’m no FFL!!!!

[@toddk1377]

I did. My 20" 5.56 BCA rifle was sub moa with 69 grain otm freedom munitions. I used it to hunt coyotes and woodchucks. Probably my most accurate AR as none of my others seem to be sub moa, at least not with any of the ammo I've tested, but I'm usually happy with 1.5-2 moa.