NEW Roland JUNO-X - A Legendary Synth Redefined for the Modern Era!

[@mrdavies7894]

The loving gazes Jack keeps casting upon Andy are so precious.

[@fatseaturtle]

I am so excited for this instrument!! It sounds amazing and inspiring!

[@browfortofficial5349]

This has got to be my favourite Anderton's video. It's the obvious joy that Jack experiences as each new feature is revealed. Definitely a small boy in a sweet shop experience!

[@theebob2008]

DyReck AKA Native Shades! 4:45

[@danielpoole6704]

I love these ‘VST in a box’ comments. Isn’t every digital synth / sampler just a VST in a box? You pay upwards of £3000 for a Nord or a Yamaha and don’t bat an eyelid that it’s just some samples in a box. I think it’s an incredible product, and something I’ve been waiting a long time for. Order placed, can’t wait!

[@mysticsailor9]

don't it just make you go "smh"?...lol..

[@infestedalien]

What these commenters don't know is that just because it says VCF it's no guarantee that the synth is a good sounding machine :) This machine will be my next purchase for sure!

[@cnfuzz]

The better ones aren't vst in a box , computer vst models run on something that isn't designed to be synth but to do your word processing on , hardware synths have tailored convertors specific for the job and you can hear the difference

[@infestedalien]

@@cnfuzz When a hardware synthesizer DSP is very fast then we get a very high resolution compared to a VST. Which gives better resolution. And with enough Bits we get high dynamics. And at the end of the chain there is a capacitor that is being loaded and unloaded creating the waveforms. What many don't know is that even a DCO is analogue the only difference is that the pitch is determined by digital. And also no hardware synth is a VST in a box, where do they find the VST library written in C in there? Where do they load other VST? What version of VST 2 or 3? I would like them to show me where they find vst dynamic linked library in the hardware synth ;-)

[@Elratauru]

lol. It doesn't work that way. Enjoy your VST. I'll keep jamming on my Juno DS for now lol.

[@billyruss]

Wow! Andertons beat the competition to get their vid on this keyboard first on my radar! I sold my Juno 106 a few years ago after nearly 35 years of service. There's a good reason it lasted so long in my arsenal, and this new beast seems to build on that legendary status.

[@Jason75913]

get a few JU-06A units, much truer to the vintage unit than this thing

[@tuneunleashed]

Dumbest decision you've ever done. You really think you're going to replace you're 1982 Original Juno 106 with this shit right here? Which is technically the something as a Roland Jupiter X?!

[@ChrisP3000x]

"New beast" LoL 😆 🤣

[@Robert44444444]

I have a Jupiter X… and I'm wondering how this isn't PRETTY MUCH the same thing in a new, more affordable, "Juno"-focused hardware package? It's like choosing which chassis and panel layout you prefer (or can afford) for your zen-core engine to reside in. I must say, apparently Roland heard loud & clear how unhappy Jupiter X users have been with the location of the display… it's where it ought to be on this synth.

[@fredmanteghian5913]

I’m glad to hear a Jupiter X customer say this. I held off buying the Jupiter X because of the need to deep dive menus. This does that too but at least layer one is tactile.

[@Robert44444444]

@@fredmanteghian5913 - well the "one layer is tactile" aspect is true of the Jupiter X also. From the mid-80s through the late 90s I had a deep knowledge of the working of Roland instruments… when I got the Jupiter X I said, OK, what's needed here is an editor app for this… and thankfully now there is one.

[@mysticsailor9]

totally agree!..the Jupiter X display location is seriously the most boneheaded decision.. i suspect though that putting the extra models into the Juno X would end up with the user paying Jupiter X price at the end of the day..

[@rui5421]

this is the confusing aspect of this marketing....and the reason I sold my Jupiter Xm and bought a Fantom 6. At the end of the day, the knob per function is only relevant to the one model it's physically based on. After that, it's a terrible interface for Zen-core. The Fantom's touch interface is far better at handling both zen-core and model expansions, and it now has a wavetable synth expansion. I think they need to commit to a zen-core focused synth, and maybe consider limited runs of their analog synths "remastered".

[@Robert44444444]

@@rui5421 "At the end of the day, the knob per function is only relevant to the one model it's physically based on. After that, it's a terrible interface for Zen-core."… exactly! Thing is though, this Jupiter X chassis is well-constructed from quality materials, so it's got that going for it.

[@biggrime]

Is it fair to call it a repack of the same stuff?

[@shreddedyeat5532]

I was sold hearing that techno chapter of the video.

[@cds8137]

As someone who has also subscribed to Roland Cloud and has a Fantom 6 (Not the O which is not suitable for my personal requirements - No NZyme, AT, 2 BMC, No VP etc), this ticks a lot of boxes imo. This is a very focused instrument and the interface is superb and far more than a midi controller. Yes it's Zen core at it's base but with added functions, ACB would have been great but with more limited polyphony. Digital is not second best. It's different. An analogue Juno would probably cost 3k. So many options now, Waldorf Iridium, UDO Super 6. This imo is a contender and I would buy over the Jup X.

[@kekethetoad]

Quality midi controller + pirated zencore or acb vst's, profit?

[@plizzle]

yooo, DyReck productions is lit. Thanks for the tip!

[@jackduxbury1632]

Right?! Best Gear Vids on KZbin - thanks for watching and letting me know Plizzle 🙏🏻

[@lundsweden]

I have TAL UNO-LX and J-8 VSTs. Why do I need this at 15x the price.

[@clivemathieu9386]

You don’t. Roland are rubbish now

[@oscarrioshilario5086]

Thanks Jack and Andy. You are Great Ones. After seeing this review 6 times yesterday I ordered the Juno X and it arrives today. @Jack, please stop making such fantastic, useful and entertaining videos because I have no money. It is the third keyboard that I bought after seeing your reviews. NO MORE REVIEW VIDEOS, please!!!! :-) 🙌🙌

[@CLdwyer]

Sometimes the noise is nice when the chorus is on, especially when doing bright super saws. Can soften harshness. Love this synth tho! Way to go Roland!

[@TranceCore3]

SHOUT OUTS TO DYRECK (AKA Native shades)! I love his videos, he does some of the best gear reviews on the platform. You guys are awesome for that. Definitely wasn't expecting a reference to Native Shades here.

[@The-Weekend-Warrior]

Imagine being on stage, you power up the synth and it asks for authorization so you have to start fiddling with your phone to authorize the sounds you have on there because you've reached the 30th power cycle.... HOW IS THIS A THING?

[@FanaticDrummer]

Because in the future you will own nothing

[@MarshalArnold]

4:44 hell yes, I love that guy's vids!

[@benbowland]

At this point Roland’s dedication to NEVER making anything analog is almost commendable lol

[@bilnabiln]

HAHA, at this point it’s almost part of the Roland brand to not give a damn about what the customers are asking for

[@TheBebe666]

As long as they have enough buyers they will never deliver what we want. It is like parent saying a kid what is best for them even it is a complete lie.

[@Nunchuckstraberry]

This attempt is so half assed. Honestly if they were to craft a Juno that has the og components of the 6/60 and 106 the world will be soo happy. Also throw in the sh 101 sequencer you got your self the best poly lol

[@HiLoMusic]

Almost…

[@phillipmarnik]

SE-02

[@SectorSevenSlumz]

Wow, about time they did a new Juno after all the jupiter models. Still, i will never sell my Juno-60. It's coming to the grave

[@keyboardtek]

I was a keyboard tech for 37 years. The analog purists must have golden ears to be able to tell the difference between the original analog synths and the digital emulations in a mix with a pile of other instruments. Your non techie listener out on the world will not care where the sound comes from and would not be able to tell the difference. The analog instruments all require thousands of dollars buying external effects units to get them to sound good. I approach each individual instrument and look for its strengths and find a way to make it musical and useful. Most of the original Juno 106 units I worked on had the filter paks way out of calibration. They came in sounding awful! But their owners thought that sound was somehow better than a digital emulation. They require regular calibration to get them to sound their best. The digital versions do not have that oscillator and filter drift issue. Personally I find the weak part of the digital units are the shrill digital effect circuitry Roland puts into their instruments.

[@gr3g0r5]

isn't the main point of the analog synths ease of use? They tend to be basic to program and sound great on whatever setting they are. Synths like these new Rolands can sound great but they're so clumsy to use. I don't care if it's analog but im not interested in having 5 synth engines and 800 parameters in my synth. I just want one that sounds great and has a knob for every function.

[@keyboardtek]

@@gr3g0r5 I went to the Moogfest In Durham a few years ago where I got to noodle on many analog synth manufactures keyboards. There were several I could not figure out how to get a basic flute like lead sound with portamento, like the Lucky Man sound. Some were not intuitive at all like the original Mini Moog D is. But I agree about new Roland synths being overly complex and hard to find your way around. When a new Roland model came into my shop for warranty repair, I often had to call tech support just to get a quick explanation for how to confirm the customer's complaint was actually a problem and not just operational error. There are only two Roland synths that I found were logical to get around and access edit pages.

[@ZenMountain]

If you don't hear the difference between digital and analog, get a decent pair of speakers or visit an audiologist.

[@keyboardtek]

@@ZenMountain Well at 67 years old I am sure I have some hearing loss in the high frequencies. Having grown up in Tonawanda, NY where the original Moog factory was located and having owned many old analog synths, and have been a keyboardist all my life and synth tech for 37 years I can certainly tell the difference. But why assume a pure analog synth has a better sound than a digital hybrid or sample based synth? Analog synths are so unstable, you have to warm them up for a half an hour until the tuning settles in. I use Omnisphere now for all of my analog synth sounds. I challenge anyone to tell the difference in a recording layered with many tonal textures. There are good digital synths and bad ones, good analog synths and bad ones. I use whatever fits the music. It is like the ridiculous argument as to which sounds better: vinyl records, open reel tape, or digital. It is all a personal preference. By the way, the original Juno 106 oscillators are digitally controlled. It is the filter paks that drift and create the "analog" quality.

[@rdean150]

And what are your thoughts on what he mentions around @8:20 about needing to connect to the internet every 30 days to check if your subscription is still active and you're allowed to access your presets?

[@FrankyGun]

Look mommy, my new Roland synth! Looks like an old analog one but is digital, and it’s basically the same as the other one I bought last year, but with different looks plus a few extra sliders, and guess what - it can load sounds that I need keep paying for monthly to a “cloud” for the rest of my life, isn’t that cool? Yeah, son - very cool! I’ll call your doctor right now, just remain calm... And give me the number of that guy, Roland, I need to have some serious words with him!

[@Answersonapostcard]

don't buy it then, misery.

[@kirabarsmith9353]

Seriously, every new direction Roland goes in sucks harder and harder . Is Klaus Schwab running the company?

[@arbogast4950]

You can get lifetime keys with cloud....

[@atetraxx]

Bro it's the coolest shit they've done in a long time. You don't have to want to buy it while realizing it's great synth. Some people don't have 3+ synths already. This is literally what everyone's been asking for in a new Juno for years. They finally listened

[@ChrisP3000x]

@@arbogast4950 1) and? You still are forced to connect to cloud or it doesn't work. What if your board loses ability to connect? 2) "lifetime" of what exactly? When Roland moves on in a few years (to supernaturaljupitercoreplus)and dumps your software version with no support, you have a worthless "lifetime" ownership.

[@adamking367]

I’ve got a Juno 106, but from watching this I would just say either pick up one of the many VST Juno emulations or get the boutique Juno off eBay for £250-£300ish

[@vaiman7777]

lol, clueless XD

[@Charlyaraya]

Is the ju06a a true 106 sound ?

[@adamking367]

@Carlos Araya Music it’s a bit thinner sounding but it’s very close & much cheaper than this

[@przsky]

Thanks for the demo! Did you like the keybed on the new Juno X? (I wonder how it compares to the Jupiter X keybed mechanically.) Thanks!

[@tuneunleashed]

NOT FALLING FOR THE HYPE LIKE I'VE DONE WITH THE JUPITER-X

[@DeyquanBowens]

The Jupiter X is a bust for you?!

[@teucimex]

Never buy something for the hype, only for your ears. For me, the jupiter xm sounds gorgeous and its the best synth I have in my arsenal. VST can sound even better than analogue synths with proper EQ and FX. If you want to have the same quality in hardware, you must spend thousands of euros/dollars. At least that is my experience regarding synths. Make music with the tools you like working with and feel inspired, but never fall in the trap of the hype. Actually, I have come to the conclusion that my favourite hardware synths are digital !

[@toi_techno]

looks amazing but I always wonder why preset programmers never seem to have listened to any contemporary electronic music

[@ShelbyWatson]

I thought the same thing.

[@shookstylez]

Why do all these digital emulations, and not just make it really analog? i dont get Roland at all. For who is this?

[@JamesCorbettMusic5000]

Cost, they can keep the price right down for maximum profit, selling to people who don’t know any better

[@project-95]

Why do they need to do analogue? It's dated tech. Get with the times

[@CallousCoder]

Take my money!!!! This is like stepping back 40 years when it was generally a better life.

[@atetraxx]

But can it Hoover?

[@parisdontlikeyou]

The dyreck impression had me lol

[@KingofBS]

I just bought one last week! The synth I've always wanted!!

[@crumpsta8061]

Jack your the man 💪😎, great podcast, fantastic synth 💯🙌

[@renesrensen8348]

Just got my Roland Juno X today

[@notforyoutube]

How do you like it?

[@hnationmusic3099]

I can’t help but think that the Juno and Jupiter X/XM will be Modern Classics.

[@vaiman7777]

So true, even the originals were bashed back then. Now everyone wants them 😂 They’ve sold out 3 times now, how many other synths do that?

[@gooneybird808]

Dyreck aka native shades!!! Love that dude

[@digitaldiezel5870]

2:08 LOLOL!..."And you're here for the whole day so we might do some creepy things as well" 🏆

[@CRayBeats]

Dweeby not creepy

[@brothergrubenski2603]

Finally a Behringer competitor

[@tiborvegh700]

Me no understanding zis... Why did not they make a dam super stable modern DCO synth with the classic analog filters, some more modulation, also some digital magic oscillator engine in addition. Basically they are selling a keyboard with the colorscheme...

[@legitimatefrenzy]

I loved hearing Jack play home sweet home with all 3 choruses.i love the form but really wanna see model support for Jupiter x owners so you don't have to pay for the other models for the juno

[@illustriouschin]

Roland Boutique? Nah we got Roland BouDONQUE.

[@drbop6951]

I incredibly found and bought last year a boxed Juno 60 with midi mod from a retired 80s stockbroker who bought it in '85 and put it away after a demo because it didn't make him an instant pop star. But I see stars every time I play it. Can't beat this analogue breathing beauty.

[@SectorSevenSlumz]

They're so beautiful eh! I bought mine about 15 years ago for £400 including Kenton dcb midi converter and a flight case. Essentially got the Juno for free 🤣

[@drbop6951]

@@SectorSevenSlumz For sure. The only way to know is to actually play one. Goose bumps every time. Midi mod so good looks factory. 👍🏼

[@PaulLembo]

Until they fail, and the choirs noise gets terrible or the filters wobble so much you lose range… the romance of imagined perfection.

[@drsamurai009]

Best Interface of All Time! That about says it all! So many synths have great sounds, but the interface menu diving is garbage. If all you want to play is presets, get a DX whatever. Besides the analog synth tones from days of yore, being able to mod the filter, envelopes and osc mix on the fly made those machines a dream to play. They invided sound sculpting. Glad to see more synth makers not just adding controls, but replicating the designs that have naturally worked for decades.

[@rui5421]

a lot of people miss the point with zen-core and model expansions in this new format. To a sufficient degree they've emulated the classic sounds, and give you the ability to stack multiple modeled synths on top of each other with independent effects, lfos, and expanded polyphony beyond what was possible with similar priced analog synths. In addition to that is the zen core enjoy that kinda future proofs the synth and gives you more options beyond just the modeled synth. There are a lot of smart gains with zen-core, that allow it to be priced reasonably, compared to other brands charging the same or more for a 6 voice poly synth, or 12 voice max. I just really want them to figure out the marketing so the goal of these synths makes sense

[@iosyn5896]

oh wow, all pro's must be stupid, to intend the priority to analog sound. zencore is overrated and digital. nothing - absolutely nothing compares to analog synthesizers - not even "overpriced copies" of rolands cloud crap. [...]charging the same or more for a 6 voice poly synth, or 12 voice max...[...] 6 voice analog sounds better as every roland cloud plug in/out emulation. only who never played a juno 6/60 can talk such a bullshit.

[@magemaroon5085]

Can't wait for the fully analog Behringer Deepmind-106 soon to be announced 🤣

[@barncat7943]

isnt that the deepmind 12

[@grzzl]

@@barncat7943 next will be the Deepmind-X

[@BurstupTV]

For a quarter of the price 😂

[@aqueous5099]

Lmao, watch them expand the deepmind with actual analog circuitry and tear Roland a new one. I’m all behringer at this point. These legacy brands are so far-fetched now,

[@vaiman7777]

BungRinger won't sound anything like it haha. Cheap and cheerful yes.

[@urbexindigo5164]

Yeah yeah yeah. Juno supersaw! 🤩

[@danec1384]

Paying for more synth sounds is so lame. I want to love this synth because i love Roland and Boss but synth expansions are a no for me. Why not just have a midi controller and use plugins?

[@Jason75913]

just skip over this junk? got older Roland gear you love? stick to it, simple as that

[@tuneunleashed]

Yeah nowadays its kinda lame lol back in the day I can understand. I've only got a Nord Stage 3 and this is officially my last synth if I'm ever going to buy a new Synth it may be the System-8 nothing else but its highly unlikely I would get one lol. There is literally no point.

[@danec1384]

@@Jason75913 I'll stick to getting a new Behringer synth when they finally get released 😅 Boss eventually listened to the fans and did the waza craft line. If Roland went analog again then it would sell like crazy

[@aqueous5099]

I’m gonna say it. It’s just a zencore extension.

[@tuneunleashed]

So, this is technically a Roland Jupiter-X in a different box

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

Finally! Thank you Roland.

[@blackdownAV]

this would sit very nicely under my OG SH-101 - eek!

[@synthsamuraiproductions]

Sounds great looks beautiful. Entertaining demo. Keep rockin fellas. Have to sell a few of my gold teeth and pic one up.

[@final_mile_music9713]

I have a zenology pro. And then I have my analog hardware. I’m not sure why I’d want this?

[@prospectnyc]

This is the update we all wanted and didn't get. They should have made it with ACB and not the subpar ZenCore.

[@frankjuno8808]

That might come in the next round of Jupiter/Juno/Fantom models 😄

[@revelationsoundstudio]

ACB has too many limitations vs Zencore. And no one would notice the differences at a gig or recording

[@OMNS777]

Just when I got the Roland Fantom 06 and this comes along lol. Well done Roland!!!

[@playeveryday01]

Fantom is the better choice , skip the x

[@alicaramba7680]

X is a synth, 0 series are workstations. If it is your first keyboard, then 0 series are much better buy, IMO.

[@frog4719]

The rear panel jacks look exactly like the Jupiter-Xm/Jupiter-X. I guess the innards are the exact same too only difference is not as many models included and you have to pay for them?

[@Jason75913]

it is _exactly_ a reskinned Jupiter-X

[@Ryanimo]

Very high FBPM in this video (fist bumps per minute)

[@jackduxbury1632]

👊

[@SPAZZOID100]

I've been looking at all the Juno-X promo videos the last couple of days. I'd say at least 75% of the comments are negative. Just sayin....

[@SoundMadeVisual]

DID NOT SEE THIS COMING! WOW!

[@bhaveshmistry3255]

Andy is a super technical sounding musician and great demonstrator. Andertons Music is doing great job making valuable tutorials and reviews on keyboards. I have played on JupiterX it’s definitely a fantastic keyboard but somehow I like this one it sounds like very professional analog synth. I am looking to buy a workstation and confused between Yamaha Montage & Fantom8 but then I have spent so much time to see all the videos and specially Andy’s tutorials I decided to go with the Fantom8. I really don’t like the acoustic instruments voices of Fantom specially Brass/Wind & Guitars are very poor but then all the Synthesizer engines are better than a Montage8. Soon I will buy a Fantom8. I have a Roland RD2000 and. am very happy but I have to sell RD2000 as Fantom8 has all the things. Great work by masters. 🙌❤

[@stevenburns989]

I think its about time Andertons did giveaways lol.......to me hehe

[@generene8130]

Is this synth multitimbral ? I so how many channels of midi ? Pls

[@lycancatt4248]

i love all this retro futurism! but as a blind person thinking about this keyboard, how much does it rely on the touch screen? cause i'm no good with those..for example the fantom g was totally unusable for me

[@Wagoo]

You'd be far better off with a System-8

[@t1merickson]

Its not a touch screen, so you may be able to memorize the number of button presses to get somewhere. I haven't used one, so not sure how much menu diving is in this.

[@lycancatt4248]

@@t1merickson i use a fantom x6 a lot and can sequence/do most all the things so i'm sure i could learn this too

[@sawsquaresinetube]

Hi, if you are interested in true Roland Analog sounds and are blind, I would highly recommend you look into a JX-3P with the PG-200 controller, which is essentially knobs for the synthesizer parameters. In my opinion you would easily determine what each knob does to each sound and how to control it. Plus it is a very overlooked and less lauded after Roland Synth so can be bought at a reasonable price if you look, or even a steal.

[@sawsquaresinetube]

@ghost mall thanks for the reply, this is very interesting to me. I work in web design but never considered accessibility in analog synth music creation. Your setup sounds awesome

[@suga4all]

Have to say I love it. The layout, the design, the sound, the legacy. It's really a beauty. But seriously Roland? 2000 EUR for what is basically yet another ZEN Core wrapper? Come on!

[@ErraticFaith]

I am biased being that I am over in the Roland part of the world =P but we love it as well. Price is a reflection of the current global situation. Not just flat competition. Production price, component scarcity. Everything isn't quite as it was. Viewed as an independent article I think it's so close to what it is actually worth that the margin is debatable. Still, people have lots of options. If they like it cool. If they don't, don't buy it. I'll get it for free, so I don't want to seem too unsympathetic either way. I do however think that Zen-C is a good modern idea (for the performer). Studio and amateur only, will have different points of view.

[@epicon6]

@@ErraticFaith They could have priced this at 600$ easy. Even 400$. It doesn't have any special hardware, just a vst in a box. It doesn't need much more than like a rasperry pi to run the synth and a sound card and a few other components that propably cost 100-160$ and the case and keys propably cost 200$ max. They priced it at 2000$ because it's a nostalgic product and they know they can sell enough of them to make good money. For 2000$ they easily could have made this an all out analog synth like the Korg Prologue.

[@juxty3102]

@@epicon6 So true. Be interesting to do a side by side comparison test against Deepmind 12 which is less than half the price.

[@Judasz696]

If it was analog then Ok but zencore quality in analog shell for this price? Lol

[@tradeandomerval]

@@ErraticFaith inflation for eveyone (not really 8%). There is a small OP1 synth, almost a 1000 here, it's a toy compared to this

[@rnedp760]

Jack 'so that's like a little dongle is it?' Roland: 'it's all a dongle.'

[@thaexception3406]

Another good video

[@titovalasques]

I love it! It’s beautiful, it sounds great and tickles the part of my brain where my teenage years resides but I will stick with my proper analog Deepmind 12 at half the price. 👍

[@mrd1701d]

Roland just up-ended my synth buying plan for 2022... push back the Hydrasynth Deluxe to next year - get the Juno X and the Jupiter X - killer combination. Great Video Jack!

[@ktreier]

I don’t how you could justify paying $2k for this when the Fantom-06 does more for $500 less.

[@ktreier]

@ghost mall Likewise I think ACB on the TR-8S does a better 808 too.

[@tuneunleashed]

And doesn't the Roland Jupiter-X have a Zencore Juno 106 in there? WTF is Roland Doing?!!!!!

[@ktreier]

@@tuneunleashed it does.

[@k.l.graham5860]

The Deepmind 12 is $900.

[@frankjuno8808]

@@tuneunleashed On the Jupiter-X, some Juno parameters can not be addressed directly, like Chorus type, PWM MOD source (you need to use the menu for these, or SysEx). And some controls of the Jupiter-X do nothing on the Juno-Model. For people who want as much JUNO knob-per-function behavior, this is the right thing. But I agree, the price is a little bit too high, regarding Jupiter-X (which has got a nice Jupiter-X model now, too, with optional Juno OSC and also the new Juno-Chorus types etc...) or the Fantom-0. But keep in mind that you need to buy the Juno model for the Fantom-0 (150 €), and now there are Juno-Model and Juno-X-Model, and only the X-Model gives you velocity sensivity, for example. I don't know if the Jupiter-X-Model or Juno-X-Model will be available for the Fantom in future.. So no velocity on the Fantom Vintage models, then (at this time).

[@rave6892]

So can it Hardstyle just like JP8000/8080 ?

[@spacetime345]

Soooo Juno 106 ...wish I still had mine..

[@spacetime345]

juno x sounds Phat !

[@mystscot9814]

Jack's back!!!

[@Riktenstein]

They are literally selling us the same thing again. Well done Roland’s marketing department.

[@frankjuno8808]

Well, you can buy classics like piano, violin... or a Juno, Jupiter, JV1080, XV5080.. Nobody complaints that they still sell you the "same piano" that exists for over 200 years, so I think it is legit to sell a Juno for about 40 years (well, all digital Junos before System-8 were not good enough as a Juno emulation, for sure) For many, the quality of the current Juno emulation is now good enough, and if you want 4 Juno sounds multitimbrally, this JUNO-X is a valuable option. Just the price seems a bit too high, and I am sure it will go down to 1500 soon. (And the original is still the best, of course, soundwise).

[@Riktenstein]

​@@frankjuno8808.I thought they might try something new as their Motto is "redesigning the future'. It feels more 'Redesigning the past' over and over. The Juno X looks good, but we've seen it all before.

[@donadoma]

Awesome! ⭐

[@QuantizStudioRecords]

It is possible that after you put a few notes in a pattern in the Step sequencer, instead of the pattern remaining with the fixed notes, it will work in another scale as well. like an arpeggiator? That is, to move up and down the scale? Because I can't find any function related to Pitch shift or something

[@johannesrauch8319]

You have to re-authorize your sounds every 30 power cycles. WTF? Imagine being at a gig, no internet connection and you can't play your sounds? Are Roland serious?

[@magicseadog8674]

Haha yeah I also was like WHAT THE ACTUAL FK. I hate the idea of buying a 2000+ dollar synth and having DLC or to authenticate or whatever. Gross.

[@HerraHazar]

What ? Really?

[@fredmanteghian5913]

I’m not sure Roland rep said authorise if you’ve downloaded from the Roland cloud, but I don’t think the built in sounds require authorisation. At least I hope not.

[@mysticsailor9]

@@fredmanteghian5913 no, no they dont.. but i think 30 days is silly.. 90 would be sensible..if at all.

[@MakeMagic]

Only if you're renting them through roland cloud. They're not really 'your' sounds unless you've bought the lifetime keys - in which case you won't need to reverify. Would you expect your Game Pass games to keep working if unplugged an Xbox from the Internet for 30 days?

[@JeeMidi82]

Where does the melody loop comes from at 31:10? It's the I-Arpeggio working, but he only played one note. And then a melody started that was more complex than just a normal arpeggio. Is it a pre-programmed melody from Roland? Or did he program it before making the video?

[@torbenanschau6641]

I hope SynthMania will do some A/B-Video.

[@djjuno106]

A thing of beauty

[@yvanroustan4426]

Are all the sliders could be assignable to control a vst For example ?

[@jamespatient7438]

does this come with all the same patches as the Juno 106?

[@digitaldiezel5870]

Shout out to Native Shades! 👍

[@Michael-qt3lo]

sounds so beautiful magic.

[@JD-xo2wz]

Roland knows what we want and they're bending over backwards to not give it to us. It's like, instead of bringing our dead friend back to life (which they absolutely can do), they just troweled some Maybelline on his dead body, took a picture of him, and glued it to the face of a blowup doll and then blew it up with a rocket launcher, just like in "hard ticket to Hawaii". And I forgot where I was going with this, but c'mon Roland! You know what we want, just make an analog Juno already!

[@WarrenPostma]

An actual modern Juno would be analog core with digital effects added on top.

[@wunderkyn]

Why not just buy an old one? Let’s say they do release an analog version, y’all would find something else to complain about. “Ooooo, it has no soul because it sounds too clean”, “Ooooo, it sounds too thin”, “Ooooo, the keys don’t feel the same”. All you “Roland fans” do is complain. Just save your money and buy the originals🤷🏾‍♂️

[@JD-xo2wz]

@@wunderkyn mostly since the supply of vintage synths is fixed and dwindling, reliability is an issue and repairs aren’t terribly cheap, and modern connectivity would be nice. An analog synth with digital effects, or a hybrid design like the (underrated) JD-XA would be the ideal in a new Juno IMO. I have an old 106 and I love it. But my Point is, Roland is so stubborn on the analog/digital thing that they’re alienating a lot of their customers.

[@adrianfundescu5407]

Sounds good to me . And I had the Juno 106. Guys( to the bla bla bla , not so analog , etc ) if you have good ideeas......it's allllll coool.:)))),

[@cyberfennek]

31:07 kicks completely ass :) Roland will allways be the best

[@ET2carbon]

He did a DyRek shout out. That was funny

[@magicseadog8674]

Jack forces at bit of analogue warmth 36:15

[@TIffSunbacon]

Okay Duxbury. We know you're a Nord Stage chap and now we know you're a Juno chap too. Would love to know what the entire Duxbury Deluxbury rig looks like.

[@sinsin5906]

like with boutique ... you can process the same thing in free custom-NIreaktor-patches .. its just wrapped in funky plastic

[@NormanPeterson]

I had a 106 back in the 80s It was OK.. I also had my OBXa which is the holy grail but this is really great New Jupiter 8 would be my choice...

[@libertysound589]

I wonder why Roland don’t bring back the G70? It’s amazing arrangers keyboard

[@robertsteinberger5667]

And that just for the price of a vintage juno!

[@rdean150]

A hardware instrument that has to connect to the internet every 30 days so it can phone home to the manufacturer to check if you're still allowed to play it??? And what happens in 8 years when Roland deems it no longer cost effective to keep maintaining the "legacy" authentication service this relies on? Your $2K instrument becomes a $2K paperweight? One of the main value propositions of hardware instruments is their longevity. A well maintained synth should still be perfectly playable 30+ years after it rolled off the production line. It requires significant ongoing effort and expense for a company to keep online services running for that long. And what if you have a gig at a venue without a decent internet connection / signal on stage?

[@HerraHazar]

So, basically you are renting it. "You will own nothing...and be happy"

[@JustBlueFish]

Luckily, you don’t understand how it works, because what you described isn’t it. You only need to connect and reauthorize if you download sound packs AND didn’t pay for lifetime keys. If you’re a monthly subscriber to Roland cloud, that is the only time you need to connect to the cloud. You can always just buy the sounds you want and never worry about it. Or make your own patches. I mean you don’t expect Netflix to keep letting you watch movies without verification of your subscription right? So ya it’s pretty simple, don’t rent patches if you’re worried about this issue. Pay the .99 cents for the sound pack lifetime key’s you like and stop worrying about it.

[@rdean150]

@@JustBlueFish And it only checks for an internet connection when you actively try to use one of these downloaded sounds? As in, if you happen to have a couple of those installed on your keyboard, and play a gig with no internet, it will only block those specific sounds, without interfering at all with your ability to use the rest of the sounds / features of the system? It won't complain about the lack of an internet connection *until* you switch to a patch that uses one of those sounds, and it will let you switch off of that patch and continue playing on a different patch? Or ideally, let you use the patch but just with those specific sounds silenced?

[@SessionsWithMike]

Why just not make it analog or even hybrid? It's like Roland has a serious mental complex. Ironically at this point Roland is becoming dated by its stance of zero analog when in 2022 it's what is back in style. Digital recreations of analog have been done now for decades. It's nothing new or moving forward. They aren't inventing anything new but rather giving us cheap fake digital versions of things they've already done (Zencore and analog emulations in a shiny vintage looking box.) I think rather than the guise of saying it's about moving forward just be honest and say it's cheaper and easier to make and higher profits. Smh.

[@Wagoo]

I don't know why they're so blinkered. If they didn't want to do full analogue then ACB 106 and 60 in this shell, maybe with analogue filters.. would have flown off shelves..

[@HamidShibataBennett]

I’ve never seen Jack more smitten at a bit of kit! 👽🦆 🍓

[@nicedevices]

Gotta hand it to Roland. They have, in recent years, made an artform out of never really nailing all aspects of a synth. These new ZenCore synths look great with their metal enclosures but sound pathetic next to the older, ugly, plastic but superior sounding System 8. The older ACM technology is far better than this zencore crap but for some reason Roland is hellbent on discontinuing all products with ACM. Please Roland, make a synth that looks like the Jupiter X but has the better sounding ACM modeling! How hard can it be? You literally have the parts for it already.

[@martinjmusic]

I think at this point it’s clear that Roland is all about the future. And ZenCore is maybe 90% true to the original, but takes it so much further. It’s not about 100% accuracy, but the possibilities and polyphony. ACB uses more processing power, meaning you would need more powerful, probably more chips. This is no option in these times. Also, had every synth 100% modeled its predecessor, there would’ve been no progress at all. It sounds great, and that’s what matters. The music will sound great, the world doesn’t care if it sounds 100% like the original, hell with all the processing and mastering you won’t notice a difference. Hoping it will be cheaper than the Jupiter-X - as it’s already lighter and smaller, if it’s cheaper too I’ll get one FOR SURE and have fun with the 90% accurate sounds!

[@ChrisP3000x]

@@martinjmusic So exactly what % of your playing is "with all the processing and mastering"?

[@kiko1935]

@@martinjmusic the system-8 had ACB with 8 voices of polyphony and multi timberality

[@BecomingProductions]

@@martinjmusic Roland is about the future? I must have missed something as it looked as if they've just been repackaging their Zencore engine in the majority of their releases in recent years while also trading on the branding of their past glories.

[@Judasz696]

Zen core is for mass production but its flagships are just to expensive taking in account that analog > digital = acb > zencore...

[@xp50player]

The original had space on the ends for speakers, but the speakers are elsewhere on this one. It’s just wasted space they could have used for more controls. Room to rack up a few rails?

[@justaname1862]

Seriously...I just don't get this Fascination with old analog gear....even Worse is behringers obsession with blatant copying of other companys/peoples products

[@Jason75913]

they've been conditioned that way, plus a particular fear improvements in SMD technology and people wanting to try real modular gear that some VSTs are based on has led to a new rise of analogue, it's not that bad at all, but Roland has been firm in their stance to stay out of it, but analogue lovers still cannibalizing antique Roland analogue synths of long ago to keep other synths of the same working know that they will eventually end up without their favorite museum pieces one day meanwhile, in the modern day, there's a bunch of companies making great analogue synths, we're really spoiled for choice just like in digital synths (hardware or software)

[@EdEditz]

Wow, Roland made a Deepmind clone!! * runs for cover * :)

[@k.l.graham5860]

I laughed way to much at this.

[@EdEditz]

@@k.l.graham5860 LOL :) Cheers

[@synthdude]

Isn't the Deepmind an actual analogue for less than half the price....🤔

[@EdEditz]

@@synthdude True :)

[@Jason75913]

@@synthdude ya, but not a keyboardists' first choice when no acoustic sounds, which is where the Juno-X has the edge But then Fantom-0 is so much more for kess money and all the same sounds.

[@JayTheLane]

Just get the Roland Juno vst and map your controller. Save cash. Should have used ACB not Zencore. Zencore is versatile but doesn't sound as good as ACB. Is this more or less a Jupiter X in a new shell with Juno esque sliders?

[@frankjuno8808]

"Is this more or less a Jupiter X in a new shell with Juno esque sliders?" - I think so. So it won`t be easier to use (as they say on gearnews), despite that OS 2 and 3 of Jupiter-X offered a lot of workflow improvements. And - you have to pay for the Jupiter8, JX8P, SH - models on the Juno-X, whereas these are already included in the Jupiter-X. So yes, it would only make sense if it is much cheaper than a Jupiter-X. I mean, it is more knob-per function for JUNO, but if you want to edit a Jupiter8 model, it is even harder than controlling the JUNO-model on the Jupiter-X.

[@TechGently]

Nice but my bad experience with the Juno-G display (broken 2 times, have to take it back again for repair before I can sell it), I'm wary about buying anything Roland now.

[@Jason75913]

My Juno-DS' display has been holding up fine for 4 years so far. I've read that the Achilles' heel of the G is the ribbon cable that connects to the display's PCB. Disconnecting and reconnecting it a few times can sometimes solve the issue, supposedy.