NEW RTS GAME - Tempest Rising: Classic Real-Time Strategy!

[@FzNd]

Looks very much like a spiritual successor to C&C. Nothing wrong with that. If it's well executed I'll certainly give it a try

[@bluu.0111]

A big difference is the Doctrine menu, which is basically an upgrade bar, that gives loads of benefits. GDF is practically reliant on it, as upgrades improve their Marking feature, which can give their tanks artillery range, and up to 40% more damge.

[@1InVader1]

@@bluu.0111 isn't that just commander abilities from Red Alert 3? admittedly in TR the doctrines seem a bit more in depth.

[@aidieltaufik9954]

Yes but it's not the system same secret protocol but it's like you tech tree thats I like it's its feel different..

[@wanglelife]

Yeah, I was gonna say CC UI and building rules

[@lysanderhuynh]

I hope they add in some of the C&C/ Could be real-life scenarios in their videos.

[@petrhampl7761]

I love how you are now also making those videos where you show new RTS games. Made me buy Age of Darkness and now Imma gonna give a try to this demo :D Thanks for creating a great content!!

[@LowkoTV]

Glad you like them!

[@hsdExorcist]

Honestly I had a blast playing Age of Darkness and all thanks to Lowko ❤

[@wanglelife]

@@LowkoTV Make them numbers go up to attract more sponsorships!

[@Sioliar]

After watching the first five minutes, I am now a believer. Lowko has to play all the old CnC games. They are brilliant.

[@lv5creep]

Yes he should, starting from C&C3 Kane's Wrath would be a decent approach.

[@Sioliar]

@@lv5creep pretty sure CnC remaster would be a better start.

[@lv5creep]

@ either will do actually :) as long as it's not RA3 or C&C4

[@Sioliar]

@lv5creep In that regard, I concur

[@jeffxie6334]

@@lv5creepCNC4 is bad bad bad. RA3 Is good fun tho, ignoring the story. The transforming japanese units are cool. But nothing beats CNC tiberium sun. I play that game for months n months on end.

[@rmelzhim6033]

Oldschool RTS was where all the aggressive music came from in the first place lol. Hell March forever.

[@TheCaptainCrack]

"Is it done, Yuri?"

[@rmelzhim6033]

@@TheCaptainCrack "Time will tell" *adjusts watch* "Sooner or later... Time will tell."

[@ingrudmessenger1193]

Right? Hell March is something i'll still put occasionally on to play.

[@rmelzhim6033]

@@ingrudmessenger1193 Total Annihilation and Dark Reign too. To this day, I still can't find a high quality/FLAC version of the Dark Reign soundtrack and I love it to bits.

[@divijdurve]

Omg hell March is still on my playlist!!

[@LobbeWOW]

This is essentially Red Alert 2 with updated graphics, sound design, actual high/low ground and a ton of QoL changes. Alright, i'm curious.

[@megaslayercho]

Gameplay Feels more like a C&C3 Tiberium wars ,which is something I like.

[@Phoboz]

It's so funny how Lowko calls it "The RTS of old", seems he's not allowed by contract to call it C&C/Red Alert. It also doesnt' seem like he actually played C&C seeing how he's learning as he goes. But maybe that's part of the sponsorhip as well. Nontheless I am very intrigued for this game as well! :)

[@thomasolympia3731]

You mean tib sun.

[@ufc990]

@@Phoboz Yeah as I was watching him figure it out I was like bro how do you not notice the menu similarities and mineral patches,I guess he was just too busy playing star & warcraft in the nineties.

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

If they let us mod this. Future modders will put Cnc here. By the way in StarCraft there is mod putting Nod in as playable faction.

[@nickvanwalderveen425]

If the game itself wasn't just a spiritual successor, the fact that Frank Klepacki also made soundtracks for the game just proves it even more. I am so hyped for this.

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

Frank Klepacki really knows what cnc rts looks like. Just like rts with cubes as i remember.

[@sashasemennikov157]

All I need to be exalted is Joe Cuban as one of the main characters

[@yann-pennaneac]

well try it and reinstall sc2 because this one is not good at all

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

@@yann-pennaneac sc2 yeah but this cnc successor just play your sc2 to again nothing matters if you don't like it. bcuz you gonna play it by the way

[@sadikgolden8852]

Something to keep in mind is that anti armour units do not usually do good damage to infantry, just as anti infantry units not doing good damage against armoured units. This has been the case for most command and conquer games which are the inspiration for this game.

[@ahmadtarek7763]

This brings back so many RA2 memories.

[@DalibanCohort]

I remember when the command and conquer (1) demo came on the PC Gamer magazine. Good memories with this style of RTS. This isn’t Command and Conquer just like Beyond All Reason “isn’t” Total Annihilation.

[@HeartStoppper]

Giving major Command and Conquer vibes, even the voicelines and resource system is so similar which is great to see/hear. Hopefully this takes off and we can have a new RTS series

[@codyraugh6599]

I'm hoping this sparks a new age for classic RTS, get someone off their rear at Blizzard, we have Age of Mythology, and this in a couple months. RTS is starting to look good.

[@RaZeyLWindBladE]

​@@codyraugh6599 nah, I don't want anyone from Blizz. Someone else needs to take their rts dev skills and rock it.

[@domingofung]

"China will grow larger"

[@simmonslucas]

Dude, I feel like RTS is gonna have a renaissance soon. My body is ready for it.

[@vanvalium]

I really hope this gets a kick ass campaign, that was always the best part of C&C games.

[@codyraugh6599]

Campaign demo looked pretty awesome, hybrid of CnC and XCOM, so you have some neat stuff you can do between missions (but not that much) but let's you explore the lore and build up over time, and get hints to the missions in game.

[@ingrudmessenger1193]

@@codyraugh6599 There was a campaign demo? Is that avaivable still or did lowko just not play it?

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

​@@ingrudmessenger1193skirmish only in this version. I think they reworking it dur tou dynasty malfunction.

[@codyraugh6599]

@ingrudmessenger1193 it came out almost six months ago

[@corneliusbotha369]

Command and Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars is most similar. The 2 factions in the demo are similar to GDI and Nod.

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

For me china vs usa in generals. Why because of infantries and tanks.

[@corneliusbotha369]

@jeusmarcomascarina4102 you should try Global Conflagration. Also, a c&c clone.

[@TheNeighbor216]

I love how Sabre was waiting so long for a new C&C game that they went the "Thanos" route. "Fine, I'll do it myself."

[@Mikivericks]

Thanks for the video, Lowko. Saw this live on your Twitch channel and this look very impressive. LOVE the music. Can’t wait for it to come out. ❤

[@computerdave06]

man, I pre-ordered this soo fast. it's been on my wishlist forever! Can't wait to play this.

[@keetam_worth82]

Until the end I was expecting Kane to suddenly pop up

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

You want the hitman of rts show up 😂

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

I like how it is apparently the broodwar style of r/p/c where units take LESS damage when attacked by the "wrong" unit instead of the sc2 route where things just die when the counter-unit looks at them weird.

[@1InVader1]

Tank/missile shots vs infantry is generally weak vs infantry in C&C and so is infantry gunfire vs tanks, but tanks can just run infantry over (and infantry gets a suppression debuff, you can see them go prone). Grenadiers are broken tho, they're good vs everything that doesn't fly.

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

@@1InVader1 good point, youre right. it ireally is some new cnc version.

[@L4kken]

You say you played the old RTSs in the 90s, but you also seem baffled by the most basic mechanics that are identical to those games o.O

[@FangBang3r]

☝🏼🤓 "does he even play RTS's" 🙄 The RTS community makes me ashamed to like games like these. Yap on reddit fam 👌🏽.

[@repHAWAIIxJPN]

I think the issue is that's back before he knew English which he has mentioned before and even commented that he had no idea what he was doing or what was going on in the story . So he might've played some of the old C&C games but he definitely didn't understand any actual information cause he only knew Dutch . Edit: I get how you feel though , it was painful watching him lose that first batch of tanks to infantry .

[@Neo-vz8nh]

He played it as a child probably, and forget it since.

[@philosoph3r]

I was thinking the same thing. He doesn't seem to have played C&C Red Alert or Tiberian Sun.

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

​@@philosoph3rlol in StarCraft tanks are tanking. But in cnc forget about that when bunch rpg trooper's show up 😂

[@Dahbidah77]

Wooo!! Notification gang rise up!! Don't forget to smile lowko!

[@bricelory9534]

This looks really polished - definitely the best of this new RTS wave that I've seen. It just looks fantastic.

[@ThusISpake]

Looks - and sounds! - good. Will keep following this game.

[@AgelessStones]

When I saw Stormgate my heart sank for the genre, but this looks like it has some real potential, good spot Lowko

[@aizero-ih3uy]

OOO I'D LOVE TO PLAY THIS!!! THANK YOU!!! definitely going to my wishlist

[@vevans0009]

"Give what the players WANT" Amazed that several companies seem to forget that.

[@jeffxie6334]

Yea finally these companies realise u dont have to reinvent the wheel. We already tell u what we want. Give us exactly that. Nothing more nothing less. Its money on the table. Its just like poe2 or Space marine 2. I cant wait to play this game. Meanwhile i will revisit tiberium sun for now to satisfy the RTS urge

[@juleswombat5309]

Yep, I really missed all those Kangaroos in Austria. Almost as disappointing as my Safari trip to Ireland.

[@zurvad]

🤣

[@firstLast-jw7bm]

every lowko thumbnail face: staring through a foggy window at something terrible &or perplexing on the other side

[@RyanHill-b9e]

I love all of these things you're noting, like having to reload at airpads, linear productions cues instead of multiple, and I keep thinking yes... that's how it was in C&C. Never really thought how C&C and Starcraft took such different routes in how a lot of the systems work.

[@freddieproctor3248]

Looks sick! 🤗🤗

[@rmeng3]

34:36 oh man Lowko, the meme strat back in the day was to sneak an engineer into your enemy base and capture their construction yard to end the match 😂

[@aarala]

If I had a dollar for every ad youtube played during this, I could buy this game.

[@Dreamscythe1]

switch to brave for a browser, no more adds

[@dfreeuns]

7:03 "we have a silo" 7:15 "that's nice and all, but... *laughs in starcraftian* is that really what I want to build?" 15:13 ADDITIONAL SILOS REQUIRED 15:41 starts wasting $$$ :D

[@MNO-zo8ec]

15:50 halo wars 1 and 2 have an all units on screen feature called local units

[@Szabbesz15]

One of my reasons for looking down on Starcraft was that this well established hotkey from CnC3 was never implemented. Well, that was "same units to selected types, with double tap for whole map". Outsandingly useful

[@sebastiannagel8003]

Lowko never played C&C ever in his life ... Lowko is so young ... or I'm far too old

[@abduktedtemplar]

This looks sick!

[@ebanashkin]

Thank you! Not all engineers has suitcase to repair tanks. Most of us sitting in factory or other tech building, no suitcase. Suitcases are for field engineers or application engineers only.

[@dicknijmegen]

You do wear the hard hats all day though right?

[@ThePeteriarchy]

Sometimes the way forward is to go back. Good seeing some new RTS games being inspired by the classics. And the fact that the GOD Frank Klepacki himself is still shredding for both this and Stormgate makes me very happy.

[@visoroverwatch3247]

Looks great and sounds great!

[@Aiathia]

Only two minutes in and it's giving flashbacks to Dune 2000 and a lil C&C (didn't play that as much)

[@warehouselead]

Its nice to see more non-SC2 content. Unless a major SC patch comes out equivalent to a soft reboot, might be good to branch out more.

[@miellennium158]

I absolutely love the way this game looks

[@Nod0nFire]

Having looked at the factions and their mechanics this is definitely command and conquer inspired. Lore is definitely Tiberium wars inspired while the faction mechanics are definitely coded from Alliance and Soviets.

[@benme2253]

Looks superB. Well DONE!

[@Onlyon2]

Looks great - will be buying

[@daemonbane1]

This is very much legally distinct C&C, and I'm all for it. Can't wait for the campaign. I also love that we can have SC2 siege tanks alongside an AA version of the RA2 Mirage tank, lots of interesting combos of specialist tools to play with (assuming the balance is good)

[@waapwaa]

Condor have ammunition mechanism they need to back to airport to reload,anyway fun vedio hope we can see more for the upcoming RTS Tempest Rising's vedio

[@corvojow]

1:22 min and i can clearly see the reference to Command & Conquer, from MBT also "GDR" who knows who knows, liked... Also the music, amazing... liked it...

[@HSukePup]

Not just a reference. This is identical to later C&C games including building and unit names. Probably closest to C&C 3

[@johnnyxp64]

Rotation of the buildings before placing them to face the direction you like, is been done by the mouse wheel.

[@mirkocosta7142]

Woo this is legendary, haven't seen something like this in ages... Wish I had a pc man...

[@Rabbiturtacorn]

I have been wanting a new age command and conquer for ages. I am so glad we are getting one now. It's clear these guys were huge fans... Or the old devs..

[@Kimari94]

Got to play this at DreamHack last year and it was a blast! Really hope the campaign is good

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

For I know the campaign feels like a early tib sun levels. But still looking for red alert 2 style of introduction of mission. Since they ra reallt put a bang for evey first mission also generals. But due tiberium problems they are dark and gloomy to play cnc does. At least they should make Kane characters and Gordon freeman characters and the campaign will go good.

[@Katakon674]

A lot of things in this game have simillarities with C&C General and RA2, which is RTS games that I grow up with and they still have special place in my heart. Can trample unit with vehicle, rock-paper-scissor synergy between heavy tank - light vehicle - infantry, completely "balanced" aurora bomber, passive income. So far the game looks very compelling, don't really see bad pathing from the units. Although 20$ for pre-order kinda tempting, pre-ordering game kinda cringe right now and I want to save money for Aoe4 DLC spring this year. I'll put it on my wishlish for now.

[@djay9593]

Very much looking like a great red alert 2 but elevated to the modern gaming. I'd love to play this when it comes out

[@wiesel1979]

regarding music: i defintely like dynamic music best -> quieter music in the building phase, and fading harder music when it comes to combats.

[@vancelim8840]

similar to how Battle Realms' BGM work?

[@paulzagieboylo7315]

I feel like these people used the Westwood-style interface (with construction commands for all similar buildings combined), but used the Blizzard-style for the actual building system (with each facility maintaining a separate queue). But the UI doesn't really support looking at the queues, at all, which is why Lowko gets so confused around 5:00. They really need some way to either see the separate queues, or (preferred) actually use the Westwood system, which has only one queue and speeds up queue processing based on how many buildings you have (with one of them identified as the one units actually pop out of).

[@wettoification]

Such nostalgia. Tiberian Sun was the one for me. Insane atmosphere. Are there any superweapons in this game?

[@ashade2877]

Oh man I am definitely getting this game

[@gontrantbrabant6270]

Well seems like the whole dev and artist from the original C&C aint dead. Love klepacki's work. Even 30 years afterward I keep listening to C&C and C&C red alert soundtrack once in a while while I work

[@MrDYou]

Thanks for representing the engineers! Feels exposed, but thanks for recognizing our ability to repair tanks

[@bobloblawlove]

A love letter to the old Command & Conquer games. I hope they'll be successful enough to keep it up!

[@SeriousApache]

I've been watching various RTS gameplay, and i realised one feature would be very useful for all of them: The AI difficulty below easy, called something like "tutorial" or "training", where you can just understand game mechanic of your faction without AI interrupting you. And obviously you don't get any rewards for playing it (besides maybe achievement for first try).

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

They should add mode. Ai relaxed or defense mode.

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

In age of empires they alhave their own ai name. Like chess 😂

[@GiulianoMazzina]

I used to love Command & Conquer Red Alert 1 and 2. The hours dumped into those in my teens.

[@Aabergm]

This is giving me massive C&C TibSun vibes.....I love it.

[@stormstriker7354]

This is really good! I would give it a go, and play! Only problem I've spotted it unit pathing but still great game!

[@ILmaddog]

There is Frank Klepacki's sountrack in this game. Cool :). It is like C&C :)

[@TinnierLemon]

So painful watching lowko play sometimes 😂. Him searching for the tempest pod was hilarious. Exciting new game though thank for demoing lowko

[@simulatedstring9029]

This guy has to play Tiberium wars. I think Kanes wrath was the one I really liked. Extremely underrated and I'd say ahead of it's time. Each fight looked like something out of a movie.

[@cadenmcerlean4920]

I didn't play them in the 90s but you can be damn sure I played them. I fucking loved Command and Conquer and Universe At War

[@virus3x2]

Why is Lowko in the thumbnail of the video looks like he's trying to control the game with his mind?

[@happyfrags]

If you're looking for new RTS, I suggest you Call of Arms Gate to Hell : Ostfront. A WW2 RTS like men of war, with fully destructible map, with tank that feel like tank, and you can take direct control of unit if you want to.

[@franklinrager6785]

That secone faction with the reimagined yuri c&c slave miner is DOOOOPPPEEEE

[@chrisbirch3648]

Tried this when the first demo came out a while ago, went on the wishlist

[@Icytouched1337]

OG C&C music composer on deck. Feelsgoodman 🎉🎉🎉

[@bassbeardiful]

I laughed out loud so hard when you said red vegetables.

[@johnnyxp64]

More of Tempest Rising plz!

[@weirdlvv]

us much I loved these games, I can't see my self playing RTS anymore :D civilization feels better these days :)

[@dahvish7726]

the soundtracks are so wild !

[@Gutterpumpp]

I'd love to see a playthrough of C&C Tiberian Sun. It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on the mechanics. The atmosphere is so good in that game and the cinematics are amazing

[@HSukePup]

@@Gutterpumpp Ehhh. Tiberian Sun is the 2nd worst game in the series just behind C&C4. C&C3 is considered the best in the series, and this new game is based on it.

[@jdubruyn]

Reminicent of Commando's... Legendary game in/of it's time💪

[@ckimsey77]

That second factions harvester mechanic kinda reminded me of an experimental unit in Supreme Commander...each of the 4 factions have 3-4 unique MASSIVE end game units that are very expensive and time consuming to build, but if successful it's basically gg. It's a mobile factory, capable of moving (very slowly) as a big building/factory on tank treads that can set up and build from tier I to tier III (all tech but experimental) ground vehicles. When deployed out of build mode, it is mobile and equipped with four main cannons, one on each corner, 3-barreled cannons like off of a big destroyer ship that can rain a large number of big aoe artillery shells onto the enemy from a very long distance (about 3-4 screens away on this games zoom level). It's brutal on buildings as well as moving ground squads because it puts out a lot of shells with fairly big aoe explosions on an area. Not highly accurate, but it blankets the area. Also is equipped with (not too powerful, it can't stand up to numbers of tech III air like strategic bombers, but can hold its own...or just build AA vehicles) anti air missiles, about 10k HP of rechargable personal shields, is submergible and has torpedos if under water. U ever play SUPCOM? It's a cool rts, but it's on a massive scale. Maps can be very large, but range of higher tech navy like battleships is somewhat realistic and can fire at targets several miles away. You can zoom out all the way up to where you are looking at a radar with radar signatures representing units like from a 10-20k ft elevation, all the way down to looking at a single unit. My favorite are the nukes....can be fired anywhere on the map there's no range limit (anti nuke missile defences are available), and they are end game tech but powerful. Only rts I've ever saw that kinda gets nukes right, one in the middle of your base is goodbye base. Explosion takes about 2-3 minutes with the animations, turning a large area of the map bright white like the sun, then slowly fading down into a massive fireball and mushroom cloud explosion. The shockwave will kill/damage units a good distance from ground zero, and the kill-all area is bigger than your entire screen viewing area on this game, they're massive and so fun to drop on your enemy!

[@GhettoInsane]

I LIKE it but we need to be able to zoom more out..

[@nicolajpedersen8506]

For an demo. This is prettu cool

[@RyanZNO]

I have been waiting for a C&C successor for so long.., I hope this ends up taking off.

[@CrazySwed]

I have missed these type of games

[@migue7490]

The game looks so promising for me, highly based on C&C TW/KW, but once you play a little bit is totally different, and I like that. It's a demo, many things need improvements and it's expected. For me, grouping and control unit is awful, but it will change eventually.

[@n1gthrav3n23]

Its a RTS and heavy music I am already tempted

[@Surtak]

Man this is C&C to a tee. Tiberian Sun all over it!

[@KinpachSC2]

Seems to have common problem of fights being very confusing to a viewer. They should definetely add some kind of colored lights in unique shape for units and more details to diffrent abilities and attacks

[@repHAWAIIxJPN]

Omg is this what C&C would be if it didn't veer off into the alien direction and stayed good 👀

[@Mondkuh]

I see Lowko has't played C&C back in the days ;) I hope there is a mod where you can turn the tempest green =D

[@De_Nome]

Very nice and promising game!

[@BadStormtrooper420]

Like a mix of red alert units gameplay and halo wars controls with StarCraft esc micro/macro im into it!

[@tyfyh622]

beginning: "This is the game for us who played 90th RTS games" half way into the video: turns out Lowko didn't play $hit

[@draconavp2]

I pity the people that haven't played Westwood games.

[@1InVader1]

I tried the demo, I'm more into Red Alert than C&C (grenadiers are a dumb unit), but the doctrines and Blizzard standard mouse controls are nice. Honestly, it just makes me want to go back to Red Alert 3, much like Stormgate makes people go back to SC2. They've got a long way to go with the hotkeys anyways, it's only the building menu that has proper hotkeys right now, no stances, no retreat move etc..

[@AhmadSammy]

Wait which of those 90s RTSs have you played? I feel like if you played any C&C you can pick this up and immediately know how most things work 😅

[@AhmadSammy]

This is classic C&C. Normal tanks are never good against infantry, thus making infantry relevant most of the game. Usually there would be some sort of light vehicle that would be good against infantry, but also you rifle infantry should be very effective against grenadiers. It's rock paper scissors

[@1InVader1]

unless you line up your tanks and order a sweeping crush move, then the infantry is useless lol. Even if you have godlike micro for infantry, the guy with tanks could do good micro too with crush and retreat moves.

[@LilMidgeto524]

Its giving future red alert😍

[@nicogesellbarrios7956]

it reminds me of dune 2000 from westwood studios, a timeless jewel of its time. you should try it atleast once

[@Chary2372]

I just got a massive nostalgia of army men rts

[@Scheinen]

looks good but the colors seem kinda dull and washed out?? hopefully that's an easy fix. Happy to see that the RTS genre is still going strong.