New Rule: The War on Democracy | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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[@gollymissholly8791]

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests" - Patrick Henry

[@kennewton9369]

Yes, but that requires those in government to respect and honor the restraints.

[@BMF0187]

What we are seeing happen to the former GOP is a total complete FAILURE of those elected Representatives at swearing to but THEN NOT KEEPING THEIR OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION every time they get a chance to put Trump in the rearview mirror and come back to reality.

[@kennewton9369]

@@BMF0187 They can't put Trump in their rearview mirror simply because they need the support of his cult-like base, who also are their base, in order to get elected. Getting elected to power is more important to them than the Constitution, or the rule of law, or patriotism, or even the traditional Republican value of not increasing taxes on business. Trumpism has mutated the GOP in to such a monstrosity that it has now become a genuine threat to the constitutional democracy set in place by our founders.

[@BMF0187]

What's happening in Florida right now to their Orange county residents is a dam shame. The dictator wannabe has signed a handful of bills that will cost Florida 86,000 jobs and 1 of 2 of Americas premiere attractions that brings Florida billions in revenue will ALL GO BYE BYE. Thought Repubs were against BIG Government in their lives. Looks like that once proud tradition of keeping the checks n balances in place by always rallying against big Government, have now realized they can just use BIG GOVERNMENT to suppress 1 of only 2 genders created by God and placing their foots on WOMENS THROATS AGAIN. Acting as if the statement the Cultists like to pretend is true when its almost the biggest lie in all of history. It goes like this ... " If A Woman is getting raped , all she has to do is shut down the 👶 maker " 😂 that's the INSANE LOGIC these bozos use for letting the man sluts off the hook & simultaneously PUNISH WOMEN HARSHLY with super long prison sentences just because she has the right to make that choice. So anyone who thinks Repubs are the party of everything Reagan stood for are also COMPLETELY UTTERLY INSANE ALSO. TRUTH YOU JUST GOT SOME.

[@527Kenny]

@@kennewton9369 and they don't have to respect and honor the restraints because the District of Columbia is a Corporation, and Corporations don't adhere to the principles of the Constitution of the people - by the people.

[@mr.anderson3369]

George Carlin: Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. They're privileges. That's all we've ever had in this country, is a bill of temporary privileges. And if you read the news even badly, you know that every year the list gets shorter and shorter.

[@texas9076]

Such as being forced to wear a mask, getting banned on social media, and forced to take a vaccine. I agree.

[@mr.anderson3369]

@@texas9076 do you need a safe space ❄

[@paladinr3016]

Every man woman and child is born with rights, being a victim of tyranny doesn't make rights a privilege it makes those who take rights from you criminals/tyrants that the people must hold accountable.

[@nickimoto007]

@@paladinr3016 how do you hold them accountable?

[@buffstraw2969]

"Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away." WRONG. Your rights can be denied and suppressed, but they are still your natural rights, given to you by Father God and/or Mother Nature (depending on your personal belief system). MLK fought for his natural rights, and the rights of others too. He didn't just succumb to fatalism and give up and say, "oh well, there goes my privileges!"

[@folee_edge]

Bill Maher is my litmus test for "have I somehow gone conservative batshit?" I watch him, breathe a sigh of relief and happily watch him pillory both sides of our political system ❤️

[@Orange6921]

Well this was a massively dishonest rant from Bill. He flat out take the actions of small number of moron and paints half the country as supporting them. THAT IS AN OBVIOUS LIE and just flat out engaging in propaganda. Its no different that republicans painting the entire democrat party as BLM rioters. STOP with the lies and distortions against half the country. Bill loses credibility when he pushes this dishonest narrative. Conservatives wants fair voting like we had since the civil rights era, not mass vote by mail and drop boxes nonsense that suddenly sprung up in 2020 that make illegal activity and voting way too easy and impossible to track or prove. If most people are too lazy to get out and physically cast a vote then they should not be voting. Mail in ballots should be reserved only for special circumstances and done with checks and balances. And NO, we are not a "democracy", we are a constitutional republic that votes state by state and district by district. Understanding that is basic jr high civics that used to be taught in schools up until the last 20 years. The founders NEVER intended a pure democracy becuase its a path to totalitarian socialist states.

[@9-nine-ix528]

bill mahr is a tool for that system. Take a heavy dose of ExLax and force your head out into the clear air.

[@eileen2693]

And spews his usual lies. The minute he starts speaking some truth ... He'll shortly go back to ridiculous lies.

[@GWARules00]

@@eileen2693 I'm sure you know exactly what you're talking about😂

[@lilblondiebear]

Aww, we're not all so bad! I consider myself right-of-center so for all intents and purposes, I guess that makes me conservative. Come on over to the dark side, we've got cookies! 😉😁

[@lindag5488]

"Heads we win tails we coup." Perfect description of what is going on right now.

[@jueshua148]

Coup = storming the capital Coup = using FBI to spy on Republicans

[@nicholaschudyk]

No it’s not

[@marksnyder6879]

Agreed, somed up in one word "Russia-gate" and the Jan. 6 insurrection of our capital in 2016

[@mariannerivera2720]

EXACTLY!! THE WHITE NATIONALIST, NEO NAZI REPUBLICAN PARTY NEED TO GO, THERE ARE MAYBE A HANDFUL OF THEM ARE NORMAL REPUBLICANS, THEY NEED TO CLEAN HOUSE

[@gollymissholly8791]

No, it’s not? It’s extremely hypocritical. And completely ignores the ongoing coup since 2016. Remember the resistance movement? Based on a foundation of rumor and without giving any facts.

[@SadhuBiochemist]

China and Russia agree with the critics of democracy. An informed, educated electorate is the strongest foundation for western democracies.

[@jamesvolkerding5892]

good luck with that....

[@Fries2145]

We are doomed

[@user-es8jn3hi3u]

The problem is America does nothing to prepare and educate the voters. So many people in both the left and the right are prejudiced and never even get exposed to other points of view. Not to mention America is hardly a democracy anymore since politicians have divided the people and continue to do so.

[@SadhuBiochemist]

@@jamesvolkerding5892 See my friend above. He is a Buchan-wald associate.

[@SadhuBiochemist]

@@Fries2145 Thumbs up for sarcasm. Thumbs down if you don't get the right attitude.

[@karenapaxagape1686]

Bill has the uncanny ability to make me laugh and feel anxiety at the same time! Thanks 😵‍💫

[@conanthegreat4418]

Of course, he creates anxiety because in this case, he's absolutely lying thru his teeth. And none of this is funny.

[@cmgweb6951]

@@conanthegreat4418 Horse crap. Lying about what?

[@tommitchell4570]

@@conanthegreat4418 right wingers are born liars --- they are quite good at it

[@santoshNarayana]

@@conanthegreat4418 what exactly was a lie in what bill said?

[@mikeblaze75]

So right on 😂

[@TowelsKingdom]

This is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause

[@steffenjensen422]

George Lucas was a visionary Edit: Is, Lol, he's still alive 😅

[@grimmshaw1960]

Bill Maher is relatively new for me, but he's quickly become my go-to for level headed and insightful commentary. He hits the nail on the head nearly every time. That being said, I don't think I've seen this war on democracy from the republican party as a whole, and I listen to a good amount of right wing radio as well.

[@greenlime1997]

Then congratulations sir, consider yourself to be brainwashed, delusional and beyond the realm of being able to think rationally. I guess I can’t blame you too much though, with all the crap you’ve been listening to from right wing radio and social media, you’re just confused about what to believe and you have no idea what the actual truth is anymore.

[@RubelliteFae]

The previous conversation with the panel was about how the US has failed at educating for at least two generations. Consider that democracy requires an educated electorate.

[@Jakiejack]

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. - Thomas Jefferson

[@richardarnez4932]

Only one specific party has been openly defunding education for the past 60 years and funding the military more and more. I'll let the obvious answer itself.

[@mikearchibald744]

Its a circular relationship. IF people have no power, they have no reason to be educated on the details of the boot that is on their neck, and why would they? In Maine they had recreational marijuana even before canada did. Most of the states with CI are now voting on cannabis legalization. Thats people voting. And those people know that issue. Where its NOT being discussed is federally, so what does that tell you?

[@tandy139]

As long as the educators are not just teaching left-wing political dogma.

[@davidguelette7036]

@@tandy139 the dumbing down of America. When Q anon conspiracy is adopted as republican policy.

[@MsThebeMoon]

I never thought so many people in the USA in my lifetime would be against the ideal that our fathers, grandfathers, etc. fought for. What are they going to do for Memorial Day? I don't understand. This has nothing to do with education. My grandparents off the boat on Ellis Island weren't educated and neither were my parents who grew up during the depression. My grandparents understood enough to make the trip out to the states for that ideal and opportunity. My father fought in WWII. They understood.

[@crabinthetophat490]

I guess this what happens when woke man children start spreading like a disease.

[@zwatwashdc]

Reality is a great teacher. What kids are subjected to these days in the name of education is pretty weak. We have a weak and confused, fearful and depressed population and a disgusting incompetent oligarchy.

[@the_Giovanni_Jian]

@Jesus has given you all. Repent or die. and your point being?

[@Rays_Bad_Decisions]

Dixie Democrats use a media monopoly to censor politcal opponents, redefine words and openly supporting NeoNazis but republicans are the threat.....

[@stevengruber57]

The media is to blame, they have divided people to the point that people have zero trust for the other side whatsoever.

[@shawnlee4631]

Bill can always nail it spot on

[@pianystrom8137]

Just want you to know how much I love you, Bill! Thank you for your wise words!

[@lgbet6w58g4]

Bill , if your gonna quote Churchill, finish the rest of the quote. You forgot the 2nd part, " In a Democracy, you get the government you deserve."

[@conanthegreat4418]

And, "A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged".

[@trysometruth]

And in an Autocracy, run by a forever-President as Trump tried to be, you just get.... shafted. You get, as Russians have today, a situation where if you call Putin's war "a war", you're threatened with 15 years in jail.

[@bippityboppityboo3848]

True I got Trump in 2016 and Biden in 2020.I got the government that I deserved and now I am fucked up😢

[@trysometruth]

We have Biden not because there was no greater human on the planet to be the U.S. president, but because he was *not Trump.* If we had Trump, he would've had the U.S. exit from NATO and would've handed Putin (the "genius") _everything_ Putin wanted. Trump is clearly beholden to Putin. He also gets involved with a _lot_ of graft and grift considering he claimed he was all about "draining the swamp". Ivanka & Jared used their position in the White House to score 640 million dollars and Jared just got paid 2 *billion* dollars by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed.

[@highwayman15]

A liberal is a conservative falsely arrested.

[@Don-ol8ze]

As I see it, our democracy is in serious danger from 1) a largely uninformed and apathetic populace, and 2) serious institutional flaws which seem nearly impossible to rectify, which more and more stack the deck against the rational majority, pull our discourse toward extremes in lieu of free debate and compromise, and enable patently unfit, unqualified individuals be elected to high office. Regarding the latter - can someone tell me please why there are no apolitical qualifications for holding office? Every other profession has qualifications - I'm sure many of you like me have been made to jump through hoops year after year by institutional bureaucracies to continually prove baseline ability. Just for example, does anyone really believe our former president could have listed the Bill of Rights, or even the branches of government? Seriously, I doubt he could have given so much as the numbers for either category. Any attempt to restrict voting - even if well-intentioned, say to give more power to informed citizens - could of course lend itself to tremendous abuse. And ideally, this is exactly why it's so vital we take active steps to combat ignorance, and seek to produce a well-informed, civic-minded populace educated in democratic responsibility. But in the meantime, why do our politicians, whether prospective or incumbent, get a free pass? It is not political bias to demand fundamental knowledge as a foundation for competence in leadership. (P.S. Thanks to all out there who have used this thread to engage in civil debate and sharing of ideas, as opposed to pointless personal attacks and irrelevant nastiness. It's always great to see people converse online like actual adults!)

[@brianbordoni2168]

And you think joe Biden is that?

[@nu385]

Agree that it is literally insane that the most important job on the face of the Earth has no qualifications other than How old are you? and Where were you born?

[@Don-ol8ze]

@@brianbordoni2168 I'm loath to engage, but... Do I think Biden, who has a law degree, and has been a sitting Senator since the early 1970's, not to mention a former vice-president, can prove basic competence, say by knowing the Bill of Rights, and the three branches of government? Yes, I think that's a reasonable assumption, though I'd be happy to put him to the test, provided we treat all other politicians the same. But if you're implying (?) age alone makes him unqualified, certainly that is a factor worth weighing in all leaders, while at the same time bearing in mind that ageism sadly remains a widely held and accepted prejudice in society.

[@Don-ol8ze]

@@nu385 Right! These are hardly qualifications at all.

[@stimproid]

@@Don-ol8ze Joe thinks he was running for senator in 2020, thinks Kamala is president, and thinks the second amendment is about hunting.

[@brendatriplett2233]

I'm proud of you for correctly identifying the challenges Bill

[@MrNintoku]

I did love the Twitter peeps argument that to have free speech flourish you needed to crack down on free speech. Republicans aren't the only ones with crazies.

[@LiITheo]

Twitter and free speech aren’t connected. Twitter is a private company and the 1st amendment doesn’t matter. I own a business and there are things you don’t get to say in my place of business or I’ll have you removed. That is not a violation of your 1st amendment right.

[@meredithclark7667]

@@LiITheo but Twitter is a public platform that provides a place for people to converse, its very nature should preclude censorship. The only thing Twitter should be banning is the same speech that the 1st Amendment already excliudes. You wouldn't run a coffee shop and tell customers they couldn't say certain tjhings.

[@Melesniannon]

@@meredithclark7667 No, Twitter is not a public platform. It is a private platform, that offers its services to the public. You have no right to it, it is not part of the country, it is not part of the government, it is not funded by tax dollars, it is not collectively owned. This is the same of all social media. It is not yours. It is theirs. You are not even a guest on it, you are a product on it. It does not owe you anything, it allows your presence for its own benefits. People seriously need to get this through their heads, it doesn't matter how large or widespread the use of a tech company's services is, that doesn't make it publically owned. What allows you to converse is your capability to spread your thoughts by the means you have available to you and Twitter is not available to you unless it decides it is, because you do not own it and it does not owe you anything. Least of all a soapbox. Same goes for Facebook, Instagram, Whatsapp, Telegram, or any other application hosted by other people that has ever existed or will ever exist. The only exception to this would be a government-funded and hosted environment because that'd actually be subject to the First Amendment. Then you can say, "my tax dollars pay for that, I have a right to it". Do your tax dollars pay for Twitter?

[@them4309]

@@meredithclark7667 You are allowed to say/print/distribute anything you want. However, I am not obligated to provide the platform for you. Get a soap box.

[@snuffeldjuret]

@@LiITheo it is connected. Don't conflate free speech with first amendment. Also, people are arguing against free speech now that Musk argues for free speech on twitter, so much so that they want the government to step in, and that is in direct conflict with the first amendment.

[@KarlOlofsson]

Some Scandinavian perspective: we have a lot of security around validating democratic votes, including getting sent invitations to our registered addresses and being required to show national id as we deliver the vote. Considering how close elections often are, I think it's pretty important to safeguard the margins so that we ensure that every single vote actually do matter.

[@KarlOlofsson]

But we also have a lot of information and help to enable eligible citizens to vote, not adding new security measures right before elections and stuff. I think the passport is the basis for identification which is something basically everyone has as opposed to a drivers license for instance.

[@thewolfdoctor761]

@@tonyanzalone384 It's racist because republicans make it hard for minorities to get IDs.

[@KarlOlofsson]

@@tonyanzalone384 wasn't that based on having a drivers license which a lot of african american don't? I.e. much more excluding than using passports?

[@KarlOlofsson]

@Alexandria Lane I can guess what "Fuk" and the emoji means, but I don't speak spanish

[@KarlOlofsson]

@@tonyanzalone384 I.e. voter validation is only half the equation. It's equally bad to exclude possible legal votes as it is to get illegal votes if you will. It should be very easy to vote if you are eligible to, and very hard if you aren't.

[@magmablock]

If one side doesn't want you to vote, vote for the other.

[@rosethorns1893]

Who is “you”? All of us minorities who are citizens are not stopped, so who is “you”?

[@kristophsams5036]

@A. Brown That only works if citizens of all walks of life can easily get one.

[@edkar7604]

When I die don’t let me vote for Biden!

[@tiffanywyatt5137]

If one side is gonna force you to vote,vote for the other

[@Ivy94F]

@@tiffanywyatt5137 How does someone ‘force’ you to vote?

[@danbeckham7895]

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.” John Quincy Adams, son of John Adams, 1814

[@hemidas]

That goes for any political regime. It's all part of the civilization cycle. You rise, you rule and then decline and fall. Rinse and repeat.

[@matrix91234]

bla bla bla. Autocrat and Dark Enlightenment bots. Move to Russia, China or North Korea if you hate Democracy so much

[@leafyisnthere9396]

Both John Adams, and his son, were diehard anti-democratic, such as the “voting is a privilege” republicans.

[@theCulinaryEdgeTV]

Thank you!

[@joseywales7930]

This place has gone nuts. Growing up in the 70s/80s I never realized people would get this brainwashed.

[@pamlewis1183]

Exactly

[@emiliavieira60]

I guess you didn't read the book 1984

[@JK-gu3tl]

Even after Jim Crow and Nixon, you still believed in democracy?

[@Shark-hn4mv]

@@JK-gu3tl, that was still democracy at the time. Everyone who could vote was just racist.

[@tommy--k]

@@JK-gu3tl Nixon, right good point. Didn't he resign the presidency?

[@michaelrief4424]

This country has changed so much over the last few years that it just sickens me to see it as a senior who has never once missed an election. Even when the candidates lost who I voted for I always expected we would be okay regardless of who is in office. Not anymore. I know a lot of people who simply don’t accept the results of the last election and they also don’t intend to cooperate with anything or anyone who doesn’t agree with them. So I just don’t believe that’s going to work out well for their future with an attitude like that.

[@MrGgabber]

I know, things were better when, if you lost an election, you could just collude with Russia to invent fake Intel and drag your opponent into a 4 year bogus investigation

[@TheMaggieDress1]

Economic WAR is the biggest 'variant' from the WORLD CLOSURE not the virus...the WORLD CLOSURE...everyone seems to have forgotten about that...drowned in media fear and covidiganda of a 97.99% fully recoverable identical to influenza...

[@steeltrap3800]

Like Portland ever since 2016?

[@perrymason4740]

Well ofcourse it'll be hard to believe the legitimacy of the last election when you see what Biden is doing now.

[@morphor]

last few years? Try since Reagan, it's only the last few people have actually realized..oh...corporations have too much control

[@BottleConcreteBlond]

Thank you Bil!

[@musicauthority7828]

Democracy is necessary. it's the foundation of our Country.

[@ekrenz5268]

Patriots don’t smear poop, lunatics do.

[@BM-wh5qk]

Fake news story.

[@mesaeddie]

@@BM-wh5qk Thanks for the fake comment .

[@TheUMIA]

Patriots know what gender they are.

[@antonystringfellow5152]

Lunatics and Apes. Which is what most Republican supporters are these days.

[@Games_and_Music]

*coughAMBERcough*

[@stevensiferd7104]

When you think that Jesus himself has ordained your cause, the concept of "you win some, you lose some" is no longer considered reasonable.

[@stevenpotts2752]

I'm Christian, and I completely agree with you.

[@stevenpotts2752]

@UCVRNfEayL-HeyezmUy3Uorw This really nice guy, a socialist, that lived thousands of years ago. Unfortunately, a lot of politicians use their worshipping of him to justify doing anything they want. Even the exact opposite of what he taught.

[@thrawncaedusl717]

Yup, when the other side is evil “losing gracefully” is not an acceptable response (rhetoric I’ve heard from both sides).

[@Jeff-cn9up]

Or "the right side of history" from the Democrats' new woke civic religion. Both are horrid ideologies.

[@g.d.graham2446]

That's what happens when political buffoons mix Church and State, and I say that as a Catholic Democrat 🙇

[@PaulSmith-tt2cy]

Canadians love you Bill

[@abdonsantella7569]

If we are the worst government why is everyone risking their lives trying to get here!!! The people that don't like it here should trade places with them

[@StressRUs]

"Heads we win, tails we coup" says it all. Thanks Bill!

[@melodyiscraycray8648]

I sure hope Trump's an aberration and we never see a man so whiney, narcissistic and such a sore loser run for president again. He puts himself above the good of the country.

[@TheUMIA]

Funny how you forget that cities were boarding up business in case Trump won. Funny how that fear could have swayed the election. I guess it's just convenient to have selective memory.

[@ryanbarnes840]

Yeah, but then he goes on to say Democrats want Democracy. That's BS. They're allowing corporate interests to replace Democracy.

[@kennewton9369]

Yep. Republican not only don't love democracy, they don't like it a little bit. They only want their way, same as the fascists throughout history. Democracy doesn't always give them their way. When it does, they 'love' it, when it doesn't, they hate it. Of course, that's not how love works, loving something only so long as it gives you your way. Republicans have become unpatriotic and treasonous to the Constitution. Just as had their ideological forbears in the Confederacy.

[@Paintballandthings]

Unfortunately it's the case for both sides. Trump won and the democrat establishment blamed russian collusion for 3 years. Biden won and now a decent amount of Trump supporters blamed a rigged election.

[@Thund3rstruk2]

I can't think of anything more anti-democratic than mass censorship. We need an informed electorate, not simply an indoctrinated one.

[@RocStarr913]

The government isn’t instilling that though. Free speech certainly doesn’t mean that there is no such thing as truth or facts and that companies can’t do what’s in their best financial interests if people say something publicly that’s inflammatory. So being racist and anti-queer somehow makes you more informed?

[@jozneptune]

Preach!!

[@jozneptune]

RocStarr913 wish they reported the hinter Biden truths instead of the Russian collusion hoax idiocy.

[@Le_Church]

​@@RocStarr913 "The government isn’t instilling that though." When they openly call for censorship like this administration has done, yes they do. Second theres definite links between big tech and politics. "So being racist and anti-queer somehow makes you more informed?" And there you go, you calling for censorship with qualifiers. Im sorry you hate free speech and will call anything racist and homophobic if you dont like it. Im okay with hearing you spew your nonsense even though you call for the death of speech..

[@HTHAMMACK1]

LOL! You're not getting that with the Republicans. They are the ones who want an uninformed, ignorant electorate, because you have to ignorant to buy their BS and still vote for them.

[@grainnesehring3337]

Well said.

[@Canadarox69]

Huge difference between a Democracy and Social Democracy.

[@Canadarox69]

@Alena Barrett You high ? Say no to drugs muppet.

[@TRE45ON.is.Bat5hit.Crazy.U.S.G]

This is what you get when you put a shady businessman in a position of power. Everything to them is leverage, control and not playing by the rules. One only needs to look at Russia to see what will happen when the president is not accountable. That is the result when justice doesn't matter.

[@travisethridge4062]

"Democracy"....

[@HybridGlobalCitizen]

yup and of course the Clintons, Pelosi Biden's etc plus their GOP cousins, never made a dime under the table while sucking on the taxpayers boobies, right? ... see Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 11-9 He does a great job outlining the problems with the DNC and why Trump actually won, and just may win again?

[@TRE45ON.is.Bat5hit.Crazy.U.S.G]

@@travisethridge4062 The Difference Between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does , and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does ; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility while the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to a war.

[@stephenhunter3993]

Well said. I'm republican and I agree with you. We also stand for free speech and we still elect politicians despite bad ideas. Green new deal... anyone??? That said. I love the debate and Maher really tells it like it is... don't always agree but respect the difference in opinion.

[@TRE45ON.is.Bat5hit.Crazy.U.S.G]

@@stephenhunter3993 Great and remember “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free in particular libertarians.” - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

[@luggagecombo12345]

The U.S. lost its democracy a long time ago, it was 1978 when the Supreme Court legalized bribery via campaign contributions. Private financing of elections results in the representation of the private interests that pay for the election. Public financing of elections results in representation of the public interest.

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

Corporations now just finance both candidates campaigns, why gamble when you can afford to bribe both sides?

[@johnnycto7576]

And Citizens United was a final nail in the coffin.

[@palmereldritch_6669]

That might have been a good starting point, but the descent was insidious and slow. YOu then had that all Reagan administration was let off the hook for Iran Contra. Then the retraction of Glass Steale, the Fairness Doctrine, the stealing of the 2000 election in FLorida, then Citizens United, then Russia stole the elction plus 3 SCOTUS seats. And the Dems have acted like lilly livered pansies and haven't held any account for any of this. It's pathetic, and also terrifying.

[@thisgame2]

1913. 1931 but hey I bet you read a good book. Maybe check out the Virginia company story for a thrill about your dear corporation

[@sabbracadabra8367]

Exactly, it's the united states of big business interests now. The people got shafted. I think most countries are in a similar boat.

[@kevinlearner40]

You know, I had a really witty retort all lined up, it was as cynical as it was biting. But then I thought better of it, because it was mean-spirited and accomplished nothing. I even felt a little proud that I took the high road. Maybe it's my first step back onto the road to civility. One can only hope.

[@richiejohnson]

Naw 🤔 What was the comment? 🙂

[@barbaraconnett5057]

Good show Bill🦊

[@felixdeluxe5060]

One of the most important comments of the year for sure. Those who doubt democracy should look at Russia f.ex. and seriously say they wanna live there or just like that!. Democracy is still in danger and that's the sad part. Just 5-10 years ago, no one could seriously believe the US without democracy was even thinkable...but nowadays? What happend?

[@smokeyhoodoo]

Youve succumbed to extreme paranoia and delussion

[@mikearchibald744]

Uh, Russia has more representative elections than america. If you are referring to the invasion the US has invaded far more countries, and the protest against the Iraq war saw far more people arrested in the US, although mainly because more poeple protested, it was the largest protests in the world. But you are right, the US is becoming closer to the kind of anarchy that exists in Russia. Trump openly talked about wanting to do away with term limits....for him. Thats what Putin did. Putin gave himself more powers, in the US every election has seen the President increase their use of executive orders, which is sort of OPPOSITE to the ideals of democracy. The Swiss president actually has NO authority and is used to only greet visiting dignitaries. Democracy ALWAYS goes from the bottom up. The growth of ANY democracy would be increasing the use of democratic tools. That happened in about half the states which brought in citizens initiatives after seeing how well they work in Switzerland. What was barely reported in the US was that Utah had a referendum where the people voted to legalize cannabis. The Utah government outrightly rejected their own referendum and refused. THAT is outright fascism, and yet it was never even mentioned in most media.

[@artembentsionov]

@@mikearchibald744 democracy requires free and independent press. And you won’t find that in Russia these days. Any non-state-owner media has effectively been shut down or cowed into sticking to the party line. People are being stopped on the street and their phones searched for any “dissident” information. And anyone protesting the war in Ukraine is jailed. Russian kids are being indoctrinated into the cult of Putin. That sounds more like fascism (or Stalinism) and a dictatorship. And yeah, the complacent “non-political” Russian people have allowed this all to get to this point by letting Putin amass so much power and amend their Constitution. Oh and let’s not forget all those political opponents in Russia that are jailed on trumped-up charges. I won’t argue that US presidents have grown more powerful over the years. But for all of America’s flaws, political opponents are jailed unless they’ve actually done something illegal (despite a certain former president wanting his political opponent jailed)

[@mikearchibald744]

@@artembentsionov Number one, again, this is not a pissing contest, thats childish. Number two, MOST of what you are writing is stuff in OUR really shitty press. YOu are SERIOUSLY going to argue that press in america is 'independant'?? SERIOUSLY?? You can actually go read RT right now and its fairly similar coverage of the war, even RT has not come out endorsing the invasion and that LITERALLY the russian govenrment. Want to go look at how much of american media was against the invasion of Iraq? And people get arrested ALL the time in america, are you kiidding me? You need to go over to the filmarchive youtube channel and watch some documentaries. Its not WELL accepted that even as far back as the eighties civil rights leaders were arrested having done NOTHING wrong. There was an FBI strategy for how to infiltrate and criminalize civil rights groups. These things are all well established. Again, this ISN"T a 'this country is better than that country'. I've never BEEN to Russia but crtainly know what a train wreck it is. But too often americans buy their mainstream media and buy into the "we're the good guys, they're the bad guys". Ask Julian Assange, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden about doing stuff that not only is legal but is a requirement of that democracy you are talking about.

[@artembentsionov]

@@mikearchibald744 I fully admit that I’m biased against Putin and Russia because I was born in Ukraine and my loved ones are currently threatened because of Putin’s war. My news doesn’t just come from American media. And I’m aware that Ukrainian media is also biased against Russia. But there are plenty of Russian expats who can freely criticize the Russian government because they’re not directly threatened by Putin’s state security. So I guess feel free to dismiss my views on Russia as my personal bias if you want. But there’s a reason Xi has been promoting his own view of Russia and the war. He wants to demonstrate the “failure” of democracy and show that the west is against authoritarian states like Russia and China. Putin and Xi are a lot alike. Both are authoritarian and both seek to reclaim territory they see as rightfully theirs

[@ldbarthel]

The problem with our Constitution, IMHO, is that the framers counted on honor and integrity - they believed the checks and balances of 3 branches would be sufficient. They also intended a MUCH smaller number of citizens per representative. They also didn't count on people serving in Congress for more years than most people lived in the 18th century. The more people in a district, the less accountable Congress becomes. The fewer members of Congress, the easier it is to lobby or purchase with campaign contributions. (Campaign contributions become more important to win an election with more people per district as well.)

[@RickKasten]

They also counted on an educated public to be the voters. They didn't count on willful ignorance and rejection of reason and science to become an actual currency.

[@jonplaud]

Also a problem is that it has not been updated. Thomas Jefferson knew times would advance from the time they wrote the Constitution and still it stays the same.

[@caelidhg6261]

their educational system was different too.

[@ScootyPuffSr7]

@@jonplaud Well technically it has been updated seventeen times. Though one was specifically to repeal another update.

[@hughjorgan3226]

They did not attack the Capitol to air grievances. They attacked the Capitol to stop the Constitution from doing its job. They attacked the Constitution itself. It was an act of WAR .

[@tranquil2706]

Bravo, Bill!

[@assessor1276]

Well said Uncle Bill.

[@maikaimakena9424]

Bill is the medicine America 🇺🇸 needs so many life lessons in his message. Long live Brother Bill

[@riverebec1]

@Braeden Bonilla I don't speak Spanish. I'm an American.

[@nico8587d]

Did Bill drink some koolaid lately?? WTF.

[@h2didenkov]

Really? Do u feel represented at all?

[@notbraindead7298]

@@h2didenkov Don’t talk stupid. Of course we aren’t represented.

[@FrankCappello_official]

He's a master flip flopper - goes where the wind blows least. He took too much heat torching the left and had to do the same for the repubs this week.

[@MrKockabilly]

Trump (before the election): We will only lose if the election is rigged Trump (during the election): We will only lose if the election is rigged Trump (after losing the election): The election is rigged/stolen Man like this should not be allowed to participate in the contest at all.

[@thomasmichael2766]

Ya, Somone who sued all 33 states that didn't vote for them really isn't leadership material.

[@stimproid]

IKR? Hillary only complained the election was stolen after she lost.

[@LazarusSlade]

Man! You better get your shitting pants ready, because if Trump wins in 2024 I get the feeling you're going to shit your pants!

[@deirdre108]

You are so right that he should not be allowed to participate. There are two bad things that can happen in 2024 if he becomes the GQP nominee. 1. He can win. 2. He can lose. If he loses can you imagine the shit storm that will take place in the country?

[@thomasmichael2766]

@@stimproid Ya, she rightfully said the kitten clutching kumquat commander with cheese was an illegitimate president. Read the Mueller report.

[@snuffeldjuret]

2:41 oof was right there with you up until that point.

[@Kevin-qp5we]

Bill you are real

[@DS-bg9fl]

While I’m not a democrat, I’m so glad to hear your views. The things you say need to be said. Thank you.

[@JS-df5vy]

@Dexter Torres sure Dex' we're gonna take your advice and click on a link following your pointless insult.

[@Flexyourmemes]

@@JS-df5vy was it like the comment under mine? Like " hi js fuk what you are saying it" then a link then stuff in spanish or something

[@erichancock6815]

Problem is that the brainwashed cult he speaks of won't hear it because they've been convinced not to.

[@bryanmachin2152]

Now I hope you vote accordingly. I mean, it's up to you, but think about it!

[@hunterbidenparmesanimports5633]

The problem is he’s wrong , the Republican Party isn’t against democracy. The democrats say they are for it , but why then did they need mass mail in balloting with millions of dead people voting ? It’s ridiculous

[@rebelvelocity6271]

The fact that they are infatuated with Hungary is terrifying. They want a competitive autocracy, where people vote but the mechanisms are too stacked for the opponents to wield power.

[@bogkazealijamislim5998]

That is the US duopoly to a T

[@thewolfdoctor761]

Republicans have come to the conclusion that the future of their party looks pretty bleak. So they figured the only answer is to become a dictatorship.

[@traindr12]

The Dems want it too. But be scared. Forever....

[@theloneranger8725]

Wait a minute. Who said anything about them being infatuated with Hungary? The NFL schedules American football games in European countries routinely. Are they "infatuated" with Europe? Most of their games are still played in American stadiums, so what's the difference? If you regularly shop at the same department store or grocery store, does that mean you are "infatuated" with that store? Ridiculous.

[@bogkazealijamislim5998]

@@theloneranger8725 They are kind of infatuated with Hungary. The internet variety especially, as well as activists and professionals.

[@taekwondotime]

Nice to see I no longer get notifications when new videos are uploaded... despite being subscribed to the channel.

[@demetriuscogdell9378]

I think Bill is right on he always makes good sense i listen to what he says he is marvelous

[@ginikast1441]

So glad you are speaking on this subject. Would like to hear you speak on the results of social media.

[@Destinychanged]

Imagine if the bad sport who lost in a game was allowed to change rules the next time you play.

[@bogkazealijamislim5998]

They did. See 2016

[@Zaekyr]

Look up "gerrymandering".

[@ExteriorsDoneRight]

Democrats lost in 2016, then spent 4 years screaming and tearing their hair out about it, then over exaggerated the threat of COVID in order to collapse a successful economy (Bill Maher himself said the Dems needed to crash the economy to beat Trump, and they did it 🤷🏼‍♂️) and changed the voting laws to allow any crayon drawing of Biden to be counted as a vote, so there's no need to "imagine" anything, you've already done it

[@user-gm4kv2my4u]

Yeah the dems would never call for such measures when they lose. Abolishing the electoral college? Packing the court? Allowing illegal immigrants to vote? Wouldn't even cross their minds. Let's be real. The only reason the Dems are 'pros democracy' is due to them being confident that the majority is in their corner. Should that ever change - yeah, you *will* hear dems start questioning Democracy. Ditto for Republicans bellyaching about the Supreme Court or electoral College the moment those stop working in their favor.

[@bogkazealijamislim5998]

@@user-gm4kv2my4u censorship is getting rampant, your comment was mild

[@gloriaroma-sandiegorealest4037]

Horrifyingly on point

[@milissarobertsolenik2085]

No one can talk me out of the Constitution & Democracy.

[@pamlewis1183]

Thank you, Bill. I am genuinely worried about our country. You summed it up perfectly.

[@pamlewis1183]

@NBA HIGHLIGHTS Justice is on its way for these autocrats. Soon, soon.

[@TheUMIA]

@@dianegrant3215 The USA will always be better then Canada. I bet you adore Trudeau. That's all I need to say.

[@30jeremyj]

@@dianegrant3215 who pray tell are "they"??? Our President is an old mental case racist. no one wants to go back and see/watch the numerous videos and soundbites of him being racist. a career politician and liar. "I was a truck driver, a farmer, a college professor". he is a bigot with a history of non integration. His party has called black people "super predators". Has spent billions making sure that black households were fatherless through incarceration for petty crime. And yes they, the Dems, stole the election. But not so much from voter fraud, but through candidate fraud. he and his hyena of a vice president, have destroyed this country by doing nothing for its people and turning the citizens against one another through a plandemic.

[@jasonb5030]

Wtf are you talking about

[@geoworld8740]

@@jasonb5030 Republicans don't understand much so your question is understandable.

[@kljhjklh4257]

"And so the children of the revolution were faced with the age-old problem: it wasn't that you had the wrong kind of government, which was obvious, but that you had the wrong kind of people. As soon as you saw people as things to be measured, they didn't measure up." ― Terry Pratchett, Night Watch

[@theboombody]

Especially the ones that watch the Kardashians.

[@thisgame2]

Look up election night pizza boxes on windows

[@mtl18]

Replace the word "people" with "culture and values"- then I mostly agree.

[@0ntimetaiment921]

The one book I own that you can open at any random page and paint any sentence on your wall. "Don't put you trust in revolutions, boy. They always come round full circle. That's why I like to call them...revolutions" Man i miss Terry....

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

Mr Pratchett is an excellent satirist. He finds the ridiculous and amplified it until it's humorous. Try "Equal Rites" too. Disc World itself is a parody of Flat Earthers.

[@ktms1188]

Killing cops? Wasn't that disproven within minutes?

[@hr2513]

Run Bill Run

[@dalerbob]

Heads we win , tails we coup .

[@jr3213]

Dems just riot. Or stop ballot counts and restart after a post office drop. Sorry. Dems are no longer the good guys.

[@tres311]

Funny, I remember mayor Pete winning an actual coin toss he just lost, to simultaneously win the Iowa caucus. Remember that? He then walked out of a court house asked about “his win” by sympathetic media, awkwardly with an autistic grin I could only describe as the look my dog has when he chews up a box of Kleenex. The camera catches a flat spot on the back of his head where he takes his double A batteries. This is the Democratic Party saving us from fascism rigging their own primaries.

[@godsstrength7129]

There’s footage of the cops opening the doors for the people at the capital is was a set up for political points like the shadow dems always do.

[@Ickabodxx]

"Democracy dies to thunderous applause"

[@mattatk92]

Democrats die to thunderous applause by sane people

[@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_King]

-somebody

[@luispenick7448]

Use the force Harry

[@lacomic3820]

@@luispenick7448 you’re a wizard Padmé

[@fenhen]

Who’s America’s Jarjar?

[@zoridahall4732]

I love BHand you tell it likes is ,love it I'm laughing my a--off lol

[@whattheheckstv]

For someone who has been a political comedian for decades you would think bill would know that America is a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

[@garrymiller3171]

Did you not listen to the next sentence? He mentions that and our system is indeed a type of democracy

[@trysometruth]

It's a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. We're freakin' both!! At least for a coupla more years we are, until the Ivermectin crowd with all their inside-job folks installed as Secretaries of State all over the nation just make things the way they want them. "IF WE DON'T WIN IT'S BECAUSE THEY RIGGED THE ELECTION!! I DECLARE OUR SIDE THE WINNERS ANYWAY!!!!"

[@brandonswenson6215]

It’s a type of democracy? No, it’s a constitutional republic and you might benefit from learning the difference.

[@jonaskeller4687]

It is a constitutional, democratic republic. Republic just means "not a monarchy". Constitutional and democratic are both part of the package in the US - as they are in every modern democracy (though not in every republic). Saying the US is "not a democracy" is just plain wrong, unless your standard for democracy is "the majority decides with zero other rules". No country on earth has such a system, none has ever had one. So it makes no sense at all to use this as a standard.

[@devinkackerman6008]

YES seriously. I think Bill brings up these off the wall girl-who-cried-wolf segments just to remain a kosher liberal in the eyes of fellow democrats.

[@Mitchellthemaniac]

This show always has the most cracked out system of frantic applause breaks

[@nicknomski8399]

😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@DisorderedArray]

The people continue to applaud the wrong thing. Maybe the people shouldn't get to decide what to applaud...

[@g.d.graham2446]

Indeed

[@The_Real_Mier]

@@DisorderedArray So much for freedom, again!

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@DisorderedArray I don't think they do. They're just trained to applaud as soon as Bill pauses.

[@kenhenderson1762]

It comes down to a mindset of "We want our way and we want it NOW". That will never happen in a democracy. A democracy encourages compromise between those with divergent views. But today, the attitude is "screw that". It's why there is such an attraction to a strong man form of government, like in Russia. There, things get done with no debate.

[@gorbo3040]

I think the acts of compromising, apologizing, and admitting fault, have all been utterly forgotten. We need to bring them back. How refreshing would it be, to hear a politician or person in power, actually, sincerely, apologize? Or hash out a compromise in good faith?

[@Strider91]

@@gorbo3040 couldn't hurt for us to teach Civics, debate, and philosophy in school agian, like we used to. As a requirement.

[@notbraindead7298]

Like in Russia?? Things get done with no debate? What thing? To whose benefit? Why always in total secrecy?

[@notbraindead7298]

@@Strider91 All the education in the world isn't going to deter a political faction destined to conquer.

[@notbraindead7298]

@@gorbo3040 The Republicans want to get rid of democracy. Is that one of the things we should compromise in good faith???

[@jeffreypfaff2641]

Democrats after seeing this segment said "Hold, My Beer Bill, Here's the ministry of truth"

[@TheJoemm]

The voice of reason.

[@driderk6722]

I am an Independent and don't take anything at face value anymore, so I looked up the quotes Bill referenced. Mike Lee was explaining the difference between a constitutional republic and democracy. Rachel Hamm, who sounds nutty for other reasons, was suggesting that "hard" equates to requiring citizens to reapply every 8 or 12 years to prove you aren't dead if you want to vote. Loren Culp was pointing out that as a constitutional republic, liberties are protected from mob rule of a true democracy. Anyone with a functioning brain would agree with all three of those full statements if presented honestly, which Bill clearly has no interest in.

[@driderk6722]

Is it really a democracy if the ruling institutions bamboozle a large swatch of the populace to vote in a way they would otherwise not have, had reality not been materially misrepresented. Take the fact that the Hunter Biden laptop truth was not only obscured but a story was fabricated to say Russians linked to Trump were behind it, with the help from media and federal agencies. According to polls, this had a material affect on swing states that resulted in Biden winning. How is that not killing the concept of democracy more than misrepresented tweets?

[@bryan805]

Appreciate this. Bill’s a funny guy but virtually everything he says are half truths. And I don’t even think he does the research to know the difference. He just delivers his lines.

[@ixlnxs]

But the difference between a republic and a democracy is like that between an hour and a suntan. A republic is not, as he said, an improved form of democracy. Most republics are not democracies while most monarchies are. A democracy is the opposite of a dictatorship and a republic is the opposite of a monarchy. One refers to whether the head of state is elected /appointed or hereditary, the other refers to whether the people (demos) have the power (kratos) to set policy.

[@kommisar.]

It's funny how Bill claims the right to vote has absolutely no caveats to it, like proving you are actually the person you say you are, or not being a convicted felon, yet for every other right, especially gun rights, there are tons of caveats. It's wrong to demand someone show an ID at the polls, but perfectly reasonable to make a person undergo a background check when buying a hunting rifle.

[@driderk6722]

@@bryan805 Agree. Honestly can't tell if its ignorance/apathy or willfully conveying propaganda. Regardless, I still enjoy some of his takes and continue to watch.

[@travisethridge4062]

Democracy in 2022 is which multi-billion doner pays most.

[@lancechimese1715]

Money alone doesn’t win elections bud

[@smokeyhoodoo]

@@lancechimese1715 Is that why elon cant have twitter?

[@hihosilencemeviolateme949]

@@lancechimese1715 it does more than you think. Few people go in to vote informed. Name recognition plays a big role in who gets elected.

[@tradeprosper5002]

USA has the best government that $$$ can buy!

[@travisethridge4062]

@@lancechimese1715 well.... actually the corporate and political elite run this country. Not who "wins" an election.

[@MrALTennyson]

Why is this not available on HBO MAX any more?

[@michaelcarberry594]

It's a sad state of affairs when I agree with Bill Maher.

[@Ezekiel903]

i changed my mind over Bill Maher, he finally addresses the terrible circumstances in America and how some try to censor everything that doesn't correspond to their opinion

[@craigsmith1443]

Yes, but they're Democrats and their mass-and-social-media allies.

[@thisgame2]

Look up election night pizza boxes on windows

[@beverly719]

@@thisgame2 stop..... just stop. There was no evidence of election fraud except for a few people....and they were primarily Republican voters

[@BMF0187]

Oh then you must be speaking about Wannabe Dictator De-Insane-tis of Florida because he didn't like Disney sticking up for their some 86,000 employees who some happen to be gay or trans and then of the millions of Americans going to Florida to see and Experience Disney have all kinds of different families now. So Ronnie passed a handful of Bills that strips disney of having to keep paying for their own Ambulances , and Police on site all day n night. Oh and the Firemen & woman disney pays to be close by and always ready to go. That gives Disney a HUGE TAX REFUND & LEAVES the people who live in Orange County with much much higher property taxes for a decade at least. Great Job Governor.

[@craigsmith1443]

@@thisgame2 _Look up election night pizza boxes on windows_ Why? Look up burning Portland. Now what?

[@michelpelletier3589]

Democracy doesn't die in darkness, it dies of neglect. When people of conscience neglect to vote.

[@rjnation5042]

Yeah you got it right there, over here we have mandatory voting, if you don't vote you get a $50 fine state, federal or local council, might be a good idea over in America, Rj in Oz

[@calvinsmyth]

Dead and alive people voted in 2020 and look where that got our country.

[@buckstan]

Americans voted in the last election, which was why Pussygrabber lost. Now voting won't be an option if the Republicans take over.

[@dougd1573]

Which explains why the left hate free speech so much.

[@andrewhogan6533]

And what happens when those you vote for, further their own interests over yours

[@sidwhiting665]

We aren't a democracy, Bill. We're a Constitutional Republic. Always have been, and I hope we always will be.

[@rangerx4553]

“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” - Benjamin Franklin

[@brightonm218]

Benjamin Franklin never said that

[@supernovaaust]

Voting is neither a right nor a privilege... it is a responsibility.

[@davidswilkinsonpc]

Sure seems like a right. You’re spiced. Do you have any poetry that you can read forward and then backwards?

[@notbraindead7298]

And therein lies the problem.

[@Sharper714]

Ya if who you was voting for wasn’t a pos. Good luck with that.

[@Fordham1969]

You're suggesting that a right and a responsibility are mutually exclusive? Also, I believe that one could choose not to vote, for example, as a form of protest, and that person should certainly have that right every bit as much as he should have the right to vote.

[@sophiophile]

I agree, but a responsibility in that sense is a personal principal and cannot be enshrined in law. People should be given every opportunity to vote (you either need voting day to be a statutory holiday, or allow mail in ballots), but people need to have the choice to not vote- whether in protest, or out of a self-recognition of a lack of knowledge about candidates/platforms/etc.

[@maliksamarijones9304]

CPAC conference slogan: "how to get dictatorship and tyranny right - keynote speaker, Victor Orban, who's showing great progress in Hungary."

[@g.d.graham2446]

Exactly

[@seekingsomething9026]

Victor Orban won the election fair and square so he's doing something right.

[@Adam-sh1xx]

The reason we don’t have direct democracy is NOT because it’s impractical. Its to preserve a plurality of different values and laws in different places according to the people who live there. Its to preserve “DIVERSITY”

[@christijo4412]

Canadian here - we are getting this now too, same rhetoric. Actually not even just rhetoric, verbatim. Word for word out of the Republican play book

[@218prototype]

Jesus wouldn’t let that happen. After all, he was in such a damn hurry to finish writing the constitution, that he completely forgot to mention himself in it EVEN ONCE.

[@Dan16673]

Facts

[@wucherer]

Bullshit. Jesus Christ is in a Bible you don't believe, a book written after 300 years of his crucifixion on Calvary. Christ never came to the country your ancestors stole from the original inhabitants, forced to believe your false God. My people left your ancestors including your anchor babies alone, natives helped those in Jamestown, and other proof to hide bullshit lies to cover your ancestors murdering of the mass genocide of innocence people. You messed with a native, they scalp your ancestors ...seen fair.

[@readynowforever3676]

And he also forgot to outlaw slavery after the Revolutionary War and during the Constitutional Convention. No worries. Because instead of “Jesus” intervening, over 600 thousand humans had to be killed in order to begin to abolish American Degradation Humiliation Violation Dehumanization. Or was that “god” working “in mysterious ways” ?

[@thegrigs777]

idiocy...sorry you hate the document that still is the reason you have any kind of freedom and dont live in a communist police state..but then you would like that, till it happens..then youd blame Trump

[@MrJamberee]

That’s one idiotic comment. Go outside and play

[@derrickyegge1303]

I like this guy. Talks real truth about both sides

[@Scorpion122178]

both parties have become so radicalized its actually dangerous let either one have complete control of the government. Its not just MAGA, I've had "progressives" stone cold tell me they'd like to "revisit" the first Amendment in order to outlaw hate speech. Which started as plan Nazism(who could object) but quickly extended to showing the confederate flag and yeah I'm sure it would have stopped there *dismissive wank* Whichever party currently holds power I will vote for the opposite party. Grindlock and stagnation is preferable to fascism.

[@ryanbarnes840]

Eh, sorta. His view on Democrats on this segment is too naive. Democrats are not pro-Democracy. They care more about money than Democracy.

[@buckdraper303]

@Savior Money Nah... he may exaggerate some points, but the basis of arguments are mostly sound.

[@conanthegreat4418]

@@buckdraper303 Nope. He's only good on First Amendment issues. The rest is sophomoric, Frankfurt School crap.

[@ve6753]

10 days later and it's become apparent the difference remarked upon here has narrowed significantly, if not absolutely Where now?

[@frankrizzo7454]

Gov Walker says hello.

[@randylynch4330]

I love how we just skip over the whole RussiaGate thing when talking about accusations of voter fraud lmfao

[@RocStarr913]

“Russiagate” wasn’t about voter fraud. It was just about investigating a hack to a political party from a foreign power, which Trump refused to do and seemed to endorse, because his massive ego would not allow for transparency. If Trump had just allowed the investigation to happen, so much could have been avoided, but of course, Trump has to be a petulant child about everything.

[@randylynch4330]

@@RocStarr913 oh for fuck sakes lmfao. Get with 2022, all this shit is debunked

[@eacamo2986]

Russia was never about voter fraud. LMFAO.

[@cspdx11]

Exactly.

[@randylynch4330]

@@eacamo2986 stealing an election aka voter fraud....

[@dustinmoore1999]

BILL GOING TO STEP ON A RAKE ON THIS

[@ryanhoffman5477]

This is the age old question since the beginning. Are we a Republic or a democracy? Hence the party names! To me, we are a hybrid of both.

[@eternalelect]

You would've been a great preacher! God bless your soul.

[@jazzfan6]

Sixty years ago when I was in grade school, we were taught about how lucky we were to live in a country where the founding fathers established a democratic republic enabled by a constitution, the rule of law, the peaceful transfer of power, and the right to vote. Now, as I look forward to casting my precious, precious vote in the next election, I must contemplate how that vote may be overturned or disregarded by a partisan state legislature thanks to mechanisms being put in place to address nonexistent problems posited by people who feel we can ill afford the "luxury" of democracy. It's enough to make me sit on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial like Jefferson Smith, weeping over the cynical dismantling of the most remarkable system of government ever conceived in the history of mankind.

[@MrRjsnowden]

I think you need to look at the last election there were several "measures" were put in place by local officials to allow "safe" voting due to the pandemic. Drive up voting, enhanced absentee voting. No ID voting all items put in place by local election officials. Its a balance to regulate voting and keep rights intact. That is where there is disagreement but to characterize a side as against democracy or the republic because they want to establish rules around voting seems to be one sided and disingenuous.

[@jazzfan6]

@@MrRjsnowden Let me begin by thanking you for the civility and even-handedness of your reply. The "measures put in place by local officials" certainly inspired widespread hue and cry over the potential for voter fraud significant enough to alter the outcome of our last presidential election, yet despite multiple audits, court challenges, investigations of specific fraud allegations , etc. (pursued to a heretofore unprecedented degree), no evidence of such widespread voter fraud was ever found. Nonetheless, certain state legislatures pressed ahead with (frequently onerous) "rules around voting" ostensibly intended to address this nonexistent fraud. Guess what? I can live with that, but for one exception: several states have proposed laws that would permit state legislatures to simply disregard the popular vote in presidential elections and substitute their own slate of electors more or less at will. That is 'anti-democratic' in and of itself.

[@MrRjsnowden]

@@jazzfan6 Court challenges that were never heard and audits that did find irregularities. The point is the rules were changed by in some cases unelected officials. Most law changes enacted merely set standards and made it so these same unelected officials could not change the rules. I just think it's lacks nuance when only one side is called out for so called changing of rules.

[@jazzfan6]

@@MrRjsnowden As you say, "Most law changes enacted merely set standards and made it so these same unelected officials could not change the rules." As I say, I can live with those kinds of changes. If you can agree that "laws that would permit state legislatures to simply disregard the popular vote in presidential elections and substitute their own slate of electors more or less at will" are anti-democratic and not to be supported, then we are edging toward agreement, or at the very least 'detente'.

[@RMT192]

​@@MrRjsnowden I think you need to look at the overwhelming evidence that voter fraud did not take place by the democrats - the only fraud that definitely took place was Trump and his criminals trying to systematically alter the results of the election beforehand and then afterwards. To deny that the Republican Party is not pursuing an anti-democratic agenda at this point is disingenuous or ignorant. They have become traitors and anti-American. All the forms of voting you mentioned required an I.D. before they were registered on the electoral role. In a perfect system federalized system, then everything would be run the government, but because it is a state based system, local officials are audited and subject to oversight and that is how it is. Don't pretend that if there "is" anything untoward happening on one side it's not happening on the other. Stop watching fake Fox News and other conservative media - full of lies by clever rich people to dupe ordinary folk out of their best interests. Be careful what you wish for because you could have Russia in 10 years time - that is exactly what the meglomaniac in charge of your party wants, and a great deal of your party.

[@joshualoukianov7099]

This monologue is to combat people giving him shit for being on JOE ROGAN.

[@Maytag99]

No, it's because it's true. Despite what some people want you to think, you can go on Joe Rogan and not support Republicans, and even criticize them! Imagine that!

[@cragjones1799]

he has given monologues like this for years, you obviously dont watch..

[@hamie63_m]

Did he talk about this while on Rogan though? I haven't heard that podcast idk

[@hamie63_m]

@@cragjones1799 yea

[@bbradley280]

He said the exact same thing on Rogan.

[@auklon3372]

Peace and freedom for my new empire!

[@oobrocks]

Correct again :(

[@lisaknudsonlcsw3730]

Totally disagree. Both parties are becoming more and more the same. Censorship, rich getting wealthier, broken promises, corporations running our country, endless wars. We need more than these 2 parties to choose from.

[@bryanbenson6551]

Right on, Lisa. I'm so tired of my choices ALWAYS being a giant douche and a turd sandwich!

[@kamaristorm]

Agreed

[@Hunter-yj6zb]

Exactly- Bill is still living in a fantasy time when most people fell for the fraud of the two parties. Both parties are beholden to their donors not the people. Also in this point in time all the censorship and dismissal of the people is coming from the Left. Bill needs to leave the cult of the Left and join the Independents who see the corruption of both sides.

[@DABIGDAWG001]

Who exactly is the left’s version of Trump?

[@dorisbrown439]

LOTS OF CRACIES OUJT THERE - WHICH INCLUDE CORPORATOCRACY AND 1% PERCENTOCRACY. UNTIL IT GETS TO AUTOCRACY WHICH IS DICTATORSHIP WHICH IS WHAT TRUMP IS - A DICTATOR LIKE PUTIN. NOT HARD TO SEE. TRUMP THINKS IFHE CAN GET BIDEN OUT OF OFFICE ON FALSE PRETTENSES, HE SLIDES RIGHT INTO THE PRESIDENCY EXCEPT THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO BE VOTED IN BY BY POPULACE AND THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN BC THE ELECTION IS OVER AND BIDEN WON. END OF STORY. GA. DIDN'T FIND ALL THOSE VOTES TRUMP TOLD THE S ECY OF STATE TO FIND. BUT TRUMP THINKS HE'S ALL KN OWING AND THAT HIS WORD IS FAINAL. ALSO I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE CALLING HIM R. PRESIDENT AND PAYING FOR HIS UPKEEP AND PROTECTION . ONLY BIDEN SHOULD BE CALLED MR. PRESIDENT. ONE PRESIDENT AT A TIME I SAY!

[@gollymissholly8791]

"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.' - Thomas Jefferson, 1816 Edit: yes this is misquoted saying of Jefferson. However, Jefferson did hold similar sentiments in his writings.

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

If so many people get it, why the fuck is nobody doing anything about it?

[@SebAnders]

@@MikeJones-wp2mw because lending institutions and moneyed incorporations have lots of guys with guns

[@MikeJones-wp2mw]

@@SebAnders I have lots of guns and Thomas Jefferson said that if the country ever reached this point it would be our responsibility as citizens to correct the situation with a revolution. He foresaw the protections created against it being eroded the exact same way they were. By using fear and promising that if we give up our rights, they will be able to protect us. But the danger passes and the rights don't get restored. Of course, they never could have protected us anyways, no government can protect you better then you can protect you. This last pandemic should have taught us that, it was caused by our government. He understood that the government itself was the biggest threat. That's why he wrote it the way he did. Before the government can take full control it has to eliminate the bill of rights. Or else those rights will shut down the government. Free Speech and right to bear arms are numbers 1 and 2, which ones are the ones under assault right now?

[@punapeter]

it's a Democratic (adj) REPUBLIC (n) We have a Representative government not mob rule. Why? “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

[@gollymissholly8791]

@Chatsworth Osborne, Jr. the quote is said to come from Jefferson but now reading that it is a misquote but similar to what Jefferson wrote in 1825 to William Branch Giles of “vast accession of strength from their younger recruits, who having nothing in them of the feelings or principles of ’76 now look to a single and splendid government of an Aristocracy, founded on banking institutions and monied in corporations under the guise and cloak of their favored branches of manufactures commerce and navigation, riding and ruling over the plundered ploughman and beggared yeomanry.”

[@darklordvul]

Nothing says you love America like calling for the dissolution of the Supreme Court, or packing it with more from your side. When you don’t like a decision they’ve made… Ya who needs checks and balances anymore…

[@carlosmanuelrodriguezsanto7203]

Some people just see shadows and the human garbage that is around them, other just see the light and follow it.

[@Driden]

Crazy time we are living in where both sides are going so crazy I can't follow any of them. Wake me up when common sense comes back and the woke side and fear side come back to reality

[@deebonash4487]

Both sides? Stop lying to yourself

[@buckchile614]

@@deebonash4487 Which side of the fence are you pulling out from?

[@aaronmikita5252]

I agree man I feel polticaly homeless and if I say that under a dem adjacent video I'm a trump boot licker and if I say it in a republican adjacent video I'm a socialist libtard. I just wish people where not so dogged in their ideas and did just try to have an honest discussion...

[@aaronmikita5252]

Like the 1st comment here is a good example of what I mean just an "ambiguous both sides? You crazy" they need you on a side

[@stevebonk8995]

To be fair, I’ll take woke over destroying democracy any day 🤷‍♂️

[@itookallthenames]

Interested to see what Bills “conservative” fans have to say about THIS one

[@viktorrodriguez5660]

betting theyre just gonna fall back on whataboutism or just accuse us of the things theyre doing

[@sorsocksfake]

Presumably that he's getting real scared of the midterms. Most Democrat supporters can be involuntarily sodomized for 8 years straight and duly complain, but when election day comes, they kneel. ...Republican supporters will only accept 4 years... Basically American politics is like a pop song. After each election another verse starts, with different messages, different words, different rhymes - albeit always the same milked out nonsense - but once the ballot appears, we launch into the same chorus over and over again. That, and don't expect anyone to pay attention for more than three minutes. In short: if you wanna know what conservatives believe, don't ask Bill Maher during election times. Ask a conservative voter, genuinely and with sincere interest to learn their views. You may have to swipe a few times to find one with the proper attitude though. It's been less than four years. (don't ask me either. I'm not a conservative)

[@calebpaddack7450]

I'm not republican, but I am conservative. The statements made by the republicans he mentioned were 100% wrong. However, I will point out that the two examples he gave were literal no ones who have zero following within the party. Now compare that to the insane statements of The Squad, who have plenty of pull and everyone knows who they are.

[@ZScarletZer0]

Bill Maher is a man, not God. Sometimes, he gets it right. Other times -- like this one? Not so much.

[@Plug604]

It's opposite here in Canada. Our Liberal Party are the ones crushing democracy with our Tyrant like leader Trudeau, even going as far as to praise Chinese government. Right now our conservative party are sounding like the level-headed no nonsensical party which definitely was not the case twenty years ago.

[@vinsanity982]

I love the painting of Jesus handing the first constitution separating church and state to the people lol

[@bradgies1755]

The more you hear about Jan. 6th, and what happened behind the scenes, the worse it is. We thought we saw it live in public, but there was so much more evil happening

[@EdBenji]

Well Brad, Tucker Carlson just debunked yr version of jan. 6th..

[@bradgies1755]

@@EdBenji You mean Tucker Carlson, the guy who admitted he lies to his audience in a sworn court deposition? That Tucker Carlson? Quote me somebody with credibility. Oh, and showing a few moments of a guy not breaking the law or being violent doesn't prove anything. I can show you a picture of Charlie Manson smiling sweetly at his jury, and he wasn't very innocent Time to find another hero. Tucker ain't it

[@jmarkinman]

This monologue would make perfect sense if America were a representative democracy, but it is not, it is an oligarchy and/or Plutocracy.

[@mukorgalaxies7766]

There's a certain amount of truth to that, but the right tool to fix extreme minority rule is some form of democratic process. More autocrats isn't the solution.

[@agentbrown5542]

Many would argue its a kleptocracy

[@m.c.martin]

Constitutional Republic*

[@jmarkinman]

@@m.c.martin We’re not in a constitutional Republic either, honestly. If we were, we’d follow the constitution, but we don’t. If we were a constitutional Republic, there would be no standing army and the Federal government would be extremely limited compared to where it is today.

[@m.c.martin]

@@jmarkinman Well, if we rewrote it to include all the Amendments we have, then we’d be able to follow it more

[@null090909]

Shortly after he had just lost his seat in the city council, to an opponent he had zero respect for, I found my father understandingly upset. And I asked him if he was ok. He said "I am OK. I now know the true cost of true democracy". He meant that in the biblical sense. We can argue about any topic except this one: power must be relinquished after ballots are counted. This is the way.

[@gingerlawrence4677]

This is the way.

[@davidtucker9498]

Unless the ones COUNTING the ballots are corrupt... Then we are back to war and violence. That was the problem with questioning the election results. If the results were truly illegitimate, then the President must be removed, by force if necessary. The entire system breaks down. The Democrats did the worst possible thing in response. Instead of having an open and honest investigation, they silenced and smeared anyone who DARED question the sanctity of elections. This, all after 3 years of Russia gate... Jan 6 taught America something. Regardless of whether or not the 2020 election was legitimate, there are two tiers of justice. One for Democrats, and one for those Republican monsters. Republicans are sick and tired of the unfairness. If things do not change, it won't just be BLM and Antifa leaving bloodied streets, the GOP may start doing the same...

[@null090909]

@@davidtucker9498 It looks like US voters MUST choose a side between either believing in widespread voter frauds AND the need for voter identification or believing that no significant fraud was proven and voter ID is voter suppression. Believe it or not, but outside the US, it is common to believe that the fraud claims are bogus AND that voter identification legislation is necessary.

[@danielnemits2069]

@@null090909No, you can believe in one and not the other, but your summary sums up the outside edges of the picture brilliantly.

[@mlpfanboy1701]

@@null090909 those countries also have its citizens registered to vote automaticly and give you a voter ID card for free with minimum problems.

[@oliverguenther6360]

Voting should be done by citizens.

[@skeltonknaggs1600]

Hey Bill, I'm watching your incredible performance in the "Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death"