Funfact Schneider Electric owns APC, which is one of the big names in UPSes in the IT space. Interesting to see they are pushing bigger under the Schneider Electric moniker.
@anthonyelectric60452 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan of Square D for many years. Did many ups/generator installs for large projects commercially. It was always a challenge but rewarding job. Hardest part was installing all those battery cabinets and batteries. Thanks for the products review and enjoyed your videos 👍
@xoxo2008oxox2 жыл бұрын
You will be surprised at how many home owners have no idea that they have so many electronics and home-generator, but no UPS for their internet gear, their HDTV, their desktop computers, appliances with clocks, etc. There is a market for a central battery-backup (UPS) for homes with generators especially for that loss of time/power till the generator is up to power. Even if the UPS gives 20-30mins of power, it should also provide true-sine wave clean power filtering, which benefits all electronics.
@jeffrydiamond2 жыл бұрын
There's definitely a market for home UPSs, but that kind of gear (even the term) is very *insider* to IT. Most homeowners probably think of generators first, and battery backup being a solar only thing.
@danielpeters49942 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if a ups is would save much money compared to a generator and automatic transfer switch. Maybe for customers with the money but I can’t see installing one for 99% of homes
@TheDrew20222 жыл бұрын
@@danielpeters4994 UPS isn't a genset replacement. Think of a UPS as a way to ride out a short 5-10min outage, or long enough for the genset to kick in without losing power.
@sergeyblinov49572 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrew2022, IMHO, UPS can be a genset replacement for city apartments. And, of course, for IT specialist's remote job or similar job. Where UPS and relatively big battery bank (for 1-4 hours autonomy) will be payed by job's income.
@TheDrew20222 жыл бұрын
@@sergeyblinov4957 I agree totally for IT specialist applications. I work with UPS units in IT situations every day and have sized them numerous times based on loads and projected power loss durations. That was also getting into decisions around line interactive vs double conversion UPS units (mostly double conversion because the power sources were iffy). Think the biggest unit we built was a 1500VA unit, double conversion, but we maxed the battery bank count as we needed obscene runtime. Maybe 30% loaded at most (yes not efficient but could find smaller that did double conversion at the time), but long run times, and no opportunity to install a genset Not so sure for an apartment genset replacement unless you put a bunch around the place for smaller loads. Running appliances inc. an A/C on a UPS will drain batteries stupidly fast unless you spend a crap ton of money on a large kVA unit with some serious battery banks.
@Sembazuru2 жыл бұрын
Another use for UPS setups is to act as a bridge to cover the generator startup time. Power goes out, UPS takes over and generator starts up. Once the generator is at speed, switch from the UPS to the generator. Don't need as many batteries. (CSBF does this for their mission control building, I would imagine other NASA facilities are similar.)
@Sembazuru2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dustin. I really liked the format of this video. In particular when you cut back to your home bench to explain what you saw and why it was important and to explain what was being discussed at the show.
@Shoxah Жыл бұрын
regarding the ups would you need to bond the metallic case/cabinet as it's extraneous?
@therookieca Жыл бұрын
Where I use to work all our servers were on UPS devices but it was set up to shut down as soon as the power switches over because we only gave them enough batteries to run for about 10 minutes.
@mos85412 жыл бұрын
SOMEday ima go to one of those insider deals, really GREAT shop talk with those peeps
@electricianron_New_Jersey2 жыл бұрын
In 32 years of working in this trade I have never installed a UPS system like this so I appreciate the insight. As for the QO meter/ main it looks great but will the POCO where I work accept this as service equipment? My hunch says NO but what do I know? I'll have to check on that. The QO interlock kit for PGW is probably the highest quality I've ever installed. Good video!
@rogerpenske24112 жыл бұрын
I have used many of these in computer systems and all PBX and central office telecommunication have these, for exactly what you stated. Back up, and CLEAN PIZZA, I MEAN POWER
@TylerBoespflug2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm hungry.
@rogerpenske24112 жыл бұрын
@@TylerBoespflug Sometimes ya gotta let word predict just roll
@jeffrydiamond2 жыл бұрын
The Schneider boxes remind me of what we have onboard in MSC.
@tonywagner48362 жыл бұрын
Would this new all in one be suitable for a multimeter install or is there a better option?
@bradb8772 жыл бұрын
Questions: How do you deal with extremely cheap bosses? I was an electrician and I know code. However, I am now doing commercial building maintenance. Often the response i get from management and owner is just get the job done. Okay, so I make hourly and im not in control of the budget. My manager has a background in plumbing. We do plumbing, Hvac, electrical and construction. So, example we had a hot box for food go out. It was not heating. Disassembled found a short circuit from neutral to ground with 4 wires burned up. Again im told. Just use whats in the maintenance office to get it fixed. All we have is green 14 guage wire and wire nuts. So I re wire it using that. But maybe I should have used 12 guage white for neutral and also heat resistant wire nuts and insulation was old. Should have replaced but didn't. I got the unit running. However, a few bucks would have completed the job up to code and not some redneck rigging. Which isn't a problem unless it catches fire 🔥 and the fire Marshall asked who did this shotty work. Well not me. Im just an hourly employee with zero budget control. But the whole building is done this way. Mis matched wires blacks for ground. Greens for neutrals red wire for ground. This is commercial property a hotel were people sleep. Like how do you tell your boss slash owner. This is wrong and a fire hazard to not do electrical work 100 percent right. Which requires going to a store and buying proper materials and not just whatever is around the shop. As maintenance the goal is to save money save a service call. But we wire up exit lights, lamps, Ballard's, pool equipment, hvac units. With the mind set of just slap a band-aid on it until it actually breaks.
@Jay-fp8iy Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Please talk more about generators and maybe some common faults on them.
@zacsantiago72552 жыл бұрын
Is this just for smaller electronics or will this run most of your house? Where do these normally sit? And how can a firefight safely shut this down when trying to control utilities at a home?
@chickenstrangler38262 жыл бұрын
Do you have any reviews of the books you own on your channel? I see a chemistry book behind you. Why do you have it on display? Did it further your understanding of electricity/electronics?
@matt24fc2 жыл бұрын
So when a home has that new meter main, and they decide that they want a whole home backup storage system installed, it is going to need to be fed from the meter. The ats will become the first means of disconnect, and come from meter to main inside the ats. That is the case in all battery systems I have worked with in a whole home storage application. I wonder if it's possible to move those load side lines from the meter to another box, then back to the main in the combo. Otherwise, it would be impossible to back up whatever circuits ever go into that combo busbar.
@brad8852 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the UPS stands up to the apc units we currently use
@larryhendrickson84462 жыл бұрын
Square D owns APC
@brad8852 жыл бұрын
@@larryhendrickson8446 did not know that. Probably engineered by the same people then. Looks like a neat unit though. Would be nice to not need a rack/twist-lock for it.
@justsomeguy.86702 жыл бұрын
I saw these UPS’s at a Microsoft data center we installed.
@brentonsullivan86222 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could use this for temp power for a site. Like maybe first day of a rough. Could save a lot of time, setting up temp the conventional way can be a Bitch sometimes. 🤔🤔
@coreybabcock20232 жыл бұрын
I use a inverter chargers for a UPS in my camper and my apartment
@petercampbell42202 жыл бұрын
There should be a maintence bypass switch on the wall- not on the machine. When the ups inverter stops working in a few years, there are no parts available and better ones out there. Direct wired mesns you shut it down to fix it. Not very uniterruptible. Nuclear plant background.
@timblack332 жыл бұрын
Anyone here recommend a whole house switching neutral transfer switch and connector for a 25kw PTO generator with a 200 amp breaker? Mainly a brand not necessarily specific specs. Can’t decide if I’m better off to use individual cables and cam locks or one of those boat type high dollar waterproof deals
@phillipsusi17912 жыл бұрын
VA or Volts times amps *is* watts for either DC or AC that has a power factor of 1.0 ( a purely restive load ). If the load is capacitive or inductive, then it will have a lower power factor and so the wattage will be less than VA. The circuit breaker cares about the amps, but how much fuel your generator burns ( or how long your battery lasts ) depends on the watts. The UPS can only put out so many amps though even if your load has a lower power factor, so that's why they rate its maximum instantaneous output in VA.
@TheDrew20222 жыл бұрын
I always look at the two ratings when buying as most UPS units (at least in datacom) will alarm if you exceed the wattage. Nothing more frustrating then buying a 3000VA UPS the vendor (APC) is assuming a .65 power factor so is only 2100 watts or so. And not all vendors use the same power factor assumption, some good ones (Liebert) assume much higher factors so a 3000VA unit is rated for 2500/2600/2700 watts.
@JeffreyBoye2 жыл бұрын
Are there any venting requirements for giant lead acid battery UPS's like this? Are these safe to keep in an interior closet ?
@MrChrisjharris232 жыл бұрын
I've seen some units in "big closets" they add a small AC unit in them to keep the right temperature and humidity. Also as long as you can access the back of the unit for maintenance you should be fine.
@TheDrew20222 жыл бұрын
Most units use sealed lead acid batteries or lithium so no fumes to worry about.
@sergeyblinov49572 жыл бұрын
Generally, there is no strict venting requirements (air refreshing in UPS room) for VRLA batteries, untill you keep battery's temperature within battery's specification. Recommended to keep temperature close to comfortable 68F (20C) degree. It is relatively easy for external battery bank, but much harder for internal UPS batteries (batteries, installed in UPS's internal battery compartment). But doors to this room must not be air tight. All this are fine for normal operation. But things changes, if aged battery suffers thermal runaway, when some 12 V blocks will heat and produce sulfuric acid decomposition. This can be prevented by regular maintenance and battery check. But, for small and tight rooms - I'll recommended to install exhaust fan and fire detection system. It will be nice, if anyone develop a hot battery detection system, based on infrared cameras for large UPS systems. Especially, with external battery banks.
@TheDrew20222 жыл бұрын
@@sergeyblinov4957 We had one failure where a bank of sealed lead acid batteries wasn't charging properly. One battery in the bank wouldn't charge so the UPS kept dumping energy into the bank to try and charge it. When I got the alarm call to investigate, the UPS had shut down on thermal overload, and I burnt my hand when I touched the bank. Testament to the SLA batteries APC uses that none burst, but we had to replace the entire battery cabinet as they'd swollen so bad we couldn't extract the batteries.
@sergeyblinov49572 жыл бұрын
@@TheDrew2022, I had several similar battery failures in our office small 1000 VA UPS. This is often caused by permanently increased battery temperature inside UPS's case. Batteries suffers inscreased water loss and positive plates corrosion, and, as a sum - thermal runaway with deformation of battery plastic cases. We called it: "batteries become Winnie-the-Poohs"
@Scotts_Status2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@tiggeroush2 жыл бұрын
KVA rating is volts and amps out of phase, KW rating it in phase power.
@smartelectric25262 жыл бұрын
@ElectriciaU Why are you scamming people pretending to be ElectricianU?
@tylersheehy39182 жыл бұрын
A ups can also turn off computer by proper shut down when it's almost out of power
@jonathanhughes3802 жыл бұрын
I have to ask how is your kid doing? its been some time. how does he like the trade?
@jonathanhughes3802 жыл бұрын
@ElectriciaU why are you righting to me as if you just learned English you must be trying to spam people the only language that uses ë with the 2 dots is German and Hungarian words. This sounds like a Spammer.
@ElectricianU2 жыл бұрын
Please note. The REAL Electrician U will never ask you to contact us in this way. This is Spam/Fishing that we work hard to keep off the channel however sometimes it takes a while to filter them out. Thanks for watching.
@vince68292 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@tambosnipes1652 Жыл бұрын
When your talking pls lower the volume of the music
@shelvins18412 жыл бұрын
All that money for a squareD panel and they can even put the labels on straight?
@hoocli Жыл бұрын
Ugh lead acid. Why not LiFePo4 at this point
@wurlabyscott Жыл бұрын
Lead Acid batteries, really?
@binaryglitch642 жыл бұрын
That Square D Rap really just wanted to sell you on some panels... like he was being a complete salesman.
@Nachiel2 жыл бұрын
Are itsso important, when you speak about emergency, and say “fireman”, take a pause and add “firewoman”? Or “fireman” should mean a profession?
@gregory49342 жыл бұрын
Type C breakers
@ryanstubbs32112 жыл бұрын
Lead acid batteries? Pfft! Like the 90's? Come on Schneider.
@MearsFL2 жыл бұрын
LEAD ACID?!? You need to go lifopo4 it’s a lithium based battery with 10+ year lifetime. When you price out over the life time it is way cheaper
@tiggeroush2 жыл бұрын
I have seen lead acid batteries reconditioned with Epson salt that were 20 years old and working just fine. How long they will last is still unknown if taken care of and reconditioned instead of replaced.
@coreybabcock20232 жыл бұрын
Guy says plug n pay lmfao
@KinGIIRomE2 жыл бұрын
Bottom left of a Square D sub-panel! If you know you know….smfh 🤬
@TaterPS2 жыл бұрын
On today's episode of always shilling for Square-D....
@Rin-xy4tt2 жыл бұрын
wtf has this channel turned into
@LogenNineFingers432 жыл бұрын
what do you mean by that
@shelvins18412 жыл бұрын
He means all the squareD and Klein ads
@charletonzimmerman42052 жыл бұрын
Getting so, don't need - "Training/education" to be a "Sparky", just "PLUG & PLAY" no "AS-BUILT", even a "Monkey" can be a "ELECTRICIAN".