NEW Shimano GRX 12-speed gravel group: details and ride impressions

[@shawnoen1029]

Shimano does actually produce a dropper post marketed as the "Pro Discovery" dropper. I have used on my gravel bike for 2 years and it's been flawless.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Thanks for the correction.

[@lukepranger1145]

I got it too but haven’t used it yet.

[@tuffventures]

My goodness, the last couple minutes are hilarious. Someone make this man a shifter display 🤣

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Turns out, it's a lot easier to put a complete bike in a stand... That said, I'm pretty proud of that ending.

[@toomaslehtonen5055]

Watched the whole thing without any skipping, which never happens with this type of content. This is a compliment, by the way. To my mind, 11s was/is a handicap for GRX. I’m glad to see them address it, but the the people want Di2!

[@joelv4495]

I beg to differ. We know what they say about "opinions" but I'm pleased as punch with 2x 810 (11-40 cassette), and I could skip 12s entirely...

[@thomaskuhn6541]

BD - you are just prolific cranking out new videos these days, seems like a new one almost every day. Appreciate you keeping me up to date on all the latest and greatest, but I'm really happy with my 11 speed Di2 (2X). Don't feel like I'm missing anything, don't need 12 speed, just like I won't be looking at 750D wheels.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

If you can't be good, you gotta be busy... :-) Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with 11spd Di2. And Shimano will be supporting that for a while.

[@boostenmkiv]

Those GRX levers on the bench certainly know the new trend of leaning levers at extreme angles! 😂

[@industryrule-4080]

My favorite gravel setup that I've used was GRX 46/30 with an 11-40 XT cassette. The range was great for long distance audax road rides and for steep gravel routes. Bummed Shimano didn't make an 11-40 GRX official cassette.

[@BoxCarBoy12]

I run the same setup and love it, but with a 105 groupset. Shame that with the change to 12 speed I don't think there are any first party 11-40 12 speed cassettes you can buy

[@YannickLB]

​@@BoxCarBoy12 Why would you need 11-40 12 speed when you have a 12 speed 10-36 tup to 10-52 with a chainring starting at 30, all the way up till 56...? All you have to do is switch from brand.. Wich should be a no-brainer on gravel and mtb already..

[@BoxCarBoy12]

@@YannickLB Because I want a 2x drivetrain and I want all the low gears, even lower than 30-36t. And you can't use the 52t cassette on the 2x. And also because I have a lot of HG hubs and want to hold off on shelling out the money for microspline hubs compatible with 10t small cogs for as long as possible.

[@thedownunderverse]

@@BoxCarBoy12pretty bummed with this too. Maybe they’ll release an 11-40 HG cassette whenever Di2 gets released. 11,12,13,15,17,19,21,24,28,32,36,40 That would be sweet.

[@YannickLB]

@@BoxCarBoy12 I mean.. to each their own, but why would you want that low on gravel with 2x? Seems like a handicap. I've got 2x 12 speed 46/35 with 10-36 and in my opinion i've got all the possible range I could need as far as my imagination goes. I've done 35% climbs with it, and 80km/h without spinning out. What more is their to have?

[@Thumper99TA]

Love the addition of the blooper section.

[@africanwidow]

The Ride down that last hill was freaken awesome! 🌞

[@tariqkamil7853]

Waiting on the full review. Hoping soon

[@olivierhenrat5881]

Sorry if this has already been pointed out in the comments but I believe that it's actually the 2x option which can be accomodated by the 11 speed body and not the other way around.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Cheers, I screwed that one up a bit.

[@ferrisbueller1347]

Nice to see you in Bend. I instantly recognized those trails.

[@jeremymitchell8470]

Looking forward to seeing if the revised GRX 2x still plays well with larger cassettes. I currently run a 11-40 on my GRX 2x and having a 10-44 with a 46/30 up front would be a great climbing setup.

[@dermitdemkuchentanzt4026]

not only climbing i am a 106 kg i realy need a 40 or 42 cassette ! i realy dont understand why they dont come with a 11-40/42 cassette it would be perfect for consumers (i think)

[@patrickseibold3829]

AWESOME! I often feel like an old man riding 2x 11spd Shimano GRX around Denver. That stuff just works! I have SRAM force on my road bike....SILLY! What was I thinking!

[@thedownunderverse]

Not that I disagree, but, what do you dislike about Force on your roadie?

[@patrickseibold3829]

@@thedownunderverse I personally get a lot of chain drop shifting to my big ring. It has to be in just the right gear in my rear cog, and that changes daily. I’ve looked DEEPLY into it but no cigar. Also, I feel the ratios just are not as nice as Shimano. It’s all personal preference, and I’m probably biased as I’ve been riding Shimano for decades.

[@thedownunderverse]

@@patrickseibold3829 Agree on all counts. I’m also not a fan of toxic DOT as I wrench my own bikes. I chose 105 Di2 (with Ultegra Di2 shifters, for the Servo Wave, hood buttons, satellite ports and warm to touch lever) and it’s absolutely sublime.

[@neilashton9459]

@theridewithBenDelaney are you waxing chains now? (noticed the ultrasonic cleaner on your bench).

[@emusp]

it annoys me that the don't offer a 165mm crank option in the 800 series.

[@homerj1640]

Eagerly awaiting a GRX 12 speed DI2.Hoping for wireless instead of less wires.

[@JoseLNazario]

Brian, great video and comparison to SRAM’s offerings. Loved the outtakes!!😂

[@jimzene]

the best part was the falling levers at the end lol

[@davidjfife]

Great video! Thanks for doing this. Living in Bend, I recognize those places you were riding. Some great riding in this area.

[@antonioCsilveira]

Nice to see the production upgrade, multiple camera angles and nice lighting. 👏👏👏

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Thank you. It's a work in progress for sure.

[@barrowsworm1226]

I have been totally impressed with the HG+ shifting on XTR. Really psyched to get the 12 speed GRX 10-45 on my gravel bike, with a 44 T ring (I run a Red crank for the power meter, and aftermarket 12 speed HG+ compatible rings are available). One question: is the cable pull for the mechanical group here now the same as with the MTB stuff? If so this would allow the option of using XT or XTR derailleurs... Would be nice to know.

[@RaMa-vg5xn]

+ 1 on the pull ratios. Would be glorious to mix and match stuff like in the days of 9 speed.

[@kbd13-n9c]

My understanding is no…

[@nicolasrestrepoospina8878]

Same question here.... Are the new Shifters compatible with mtb rear derailleurs... It would be nice to have a XTR rear mech to save some weight and get better precision...

[@barrowsworm1226]

Further research has confirmed that GRX 12 speed mechanical is using a different cable pull ratio from Shimano MTB 12 speed system, so one must use GRX derailleurs with gRX shifters... Oh well...

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Yep, as @barrowsworm1226 said, they are not compatible. From Shimano: GRX uses the Shimano road pull ratio and XTR is MTB pull ratio.

[@chrisdistefano198]

Your gear reviews are always grxat!

[@Minwary]

12:20 Apex 😉

[@hellebarde1450]

Very nice video! How about the mentioned update-video? :)

[@ebenlaubscher4153]

Really happy with my 2 x 11 shimano GRX on my Topstone gravel bike .I can ride road events and most MTB areas .I also have Shim Di2 and sram eagle on other bikes .My best MTB groupset was also a 2 x 11 .Don,t see the need for this 1 x 12/13 setup anymore .The casettes are way to exspensive to replace .My new Shimano GRX 11 speed cassette costs 10% of a sram eagle one and i prefer to stand and cycle in a larger gear at the back and not murder a 10 cog eagle cassette .Long live Shimano 2 x 11/12

[@TyTy22_]

That ending was fantastic 😂 Ill hold out until a Di2 option is available, but im happy that 12 speed is finally out. Hopefully the hoods have been made larger like the new road 12speeds, as I have very large hands and the 11speed Di2 hoods are too small

[@Adventuregirl96]

Loved the video you did a good job of presenting everything. Good enough that now my twin is interested in upgrading to this instead of MicroShift Sword.

[@neil78]

I was wondering if some sneaky behind-the-scenes GRX testing was going on. For an all-road bike that 48/31 with 11-36 seems like a good fit for range and cadence matching but they really should have come out of the gate with the Di2. The 1x should be at least finally comparable with SRAM, in fact besting their XPLR group unless you use a SRAM mullet setup but I think the steps are just too great to use on longer rides with mixed road or flats.

[@markxkovacic]

Perfect ratios.

[@Nirryde]

I was hopping to see a 11-45 12 speed cassette with 1 tooth jumps on the 3 smallest gears. Sram released something like this in their xplr line.

[@Ridingonryeandjam]

GRX crank arm spacing is 151mm and road is 147mm.

[@markkutoivari8000]

Great video as always .

[@redauwg911]

don't forget your chain catcher this time

[@dmsnova]

Nice video man. If you're a one man squad props. Sick quality

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Thank you. I am indeed a one-man band. I appreciate you watching.

[@sadlfjasdfacv]

Mullet out of the box. Nice.

[@JulianKent]

Do you know the pull ratios? Will these shifters work with the Shimano MTB 12s derailleurs?

[@shalakabooyaka1480]

a 2x mech? New touring bike groupset maybe? Should have good climbing, and be a good upgrade to a sora setup I have atm

[@davidtipping7731]

Love the out takes.😂

[@marksandoval5361]

I'm waiting for a new bike with this 10-51 drivetrain and the new 750x40 tires/wheels.

[@stephenitano8806]

I’m hoping the new 12 speed DI2 GRX will be semi wireless

[@universe-juice]

Hey Ben! Off topic. Want to see you on a time adhx. I love and trust your reviews. (Got a giant revolt advance 0 on your recommendation, and it has not disappointed. I LOVE this bike!) Im always looking for the next bike, and am very interested in the adhx. Please check it out when you can 👍

[@idriysmcfield7631]

Any chance we can see the route/ride course? Scenery looks beautiful 😊

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Yeah, of course. All my rides are on Strava. www.strava.com/athletes/ben-delaney www.strava.com/activities/9655081823

[@danielrussell9416]

It seems as though the 11-32 cassette is not made for Shimano 12 speed. This eliminates my perfect everyman gravel gearing of 46/30 and 11-32. I know 48/31 and 11-34 is very close but the cassette, chainrings and chain are heavier.

[@CrabgrassFarmer]

What is the new 12 speed free hub for the 2x setup? This is the first I've heard of it.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

There's a 27sec video here that shows the Micro Spline (for 1x with a 10t) and the HyperGlide L2 (the 12spd 2x road for an 11t) bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/grx-12-speed_lp.html

[@CrabgrassFarmer]

Thank you for the reply! I couldn't locate the video at that link. I'm sure it's on my end. My only concern is whether the Hyperglide L2 is backward compatible with the previous 11 speed HG. I believe it is, but just trying to confirm. Thanks!

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

@@CrabgrassFarmer No, it is not.

[@CrabgrassFarmer]

Yikes! I've got a 2x12 groupset on order. I thought the freehub on the 2x groupsets was backward compatible, that's the best info I could find, and it looks like it should be. Do you have a link to something saying it isn't backward compatible? Sorry, I'm not trying to put my homework on you, but this is a bit foggy out there. Thank you!

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

@@CrabgrassFarmer Sorry, I misunderstood your question. The 12spd group (and casssette) will work on 11spd wheels. So you are all set. You just can't put an 11spd cassette on the L2 freehub.

[@samd6405]

Are the brakes new from previous 11speed GRX? Also, anything other than GRX 11speed crankarm are compatible with 12speed GRX?

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Brakes are new. Calipers snuck in with the limited edition silver GRX, but are basically new.

[@swray2112]

Like you said the 2.5mm extra on the Q-factor on gravel groups allows wider tyres, however Shimano thinks anyone riding gravel, at least at the top tier doesn't deserve any cranks shorter than 170mm. Stupid, especially considering studies showing the benefits of shorter cranks, and of course people like my 5' 2" wife are just screwed if they want to keep a whole groupset.

[@WordupG]

Whole groupsets are overrated. Just get the parts that are best for your needs. Like the guys who want higher gearing buying the Ultegra cranks. I wanted better shifting under load from my SRAM drivetrain so I bought Shimano HG+ cassette & chain. No big deal

[@pmcmpc]

Street price on this is about 20% higher than Ultegra Di2 street price ...

[@kubackjeee]

I am suprised you would choose 2x against 1x. I always thought you are a 1x guy. I may remember wrong but when you talked about giant revolt you mentioned that it's 2x and you would prefer 1x. Why did your preference changed Ben?

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Did I? I don't remember that! I'm going to have to go back and watch. My main take is that gearing, like tires, depends on where you live and how you like to ride. I live next to big mountains, and I like gearing to go up and down them.

[@kubackjeee]

@@TheRidewithBenDelaney maybe I have some memory problems. Have to watch it myself again :) do You know if those shifters will work with shimano mtb rear derailleurs?

[@Service_Course_Guy]

What happened to the duck? It was bleeped out.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

RIP Ducky. You deserved better.

[@ptonewood]

GRX rd with road fd and road crank 50/34 ftw

[@fatbloaterdave]

The idea you are going to spin out is a little silly. 42x10 is equivalent to 52x12. So sure it’s possible, but it’s not really worth mentioning is it? 58kph at 110rpm.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Depends on where you live. Coming down the mountain roads in Colorado you can get that spun out pretty easily.

[@fatbloaterdave]

​@@TheRidewithBenDelaney Yeh i guess, i suppose in my experience if i'm hitting 60kph i'm not pedaling i'm tucking aero being what it is, and this being an offroad groupset not really aimed at fast mountain decents. But each to their own I guess. it just seemed like a weird thing to comment on. Like commending that ultegra doesn't have a low enough gear for riding technical single track.

[@TheDavidjakeson]

Do you really want the Shimano power meter on GRX, though? It's pretty bad.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Short answer: Personally, I'm happy with Stages. Longer answer: I really would like to see Shimano integrate its power meter team with its component team so they work collaboratively on making an excellent power meter that riders could get as a stock option.

[@TheDavidjakeson]

@@TheRidewithBenDelaney Yeah, Stages seems like the right way to go for Shimano drivetrains. Or like sending your crank to, say, 4iiii so they can add their power meter to it.

[@Automobiliana]

Nice early review. Lots of bleeps at the end 😊

[@iuriiilin6567]

The bicycle that starts moving in a gear that corresponds to the terrain can be called safe only. This is easy kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6HVenxojpKXfaM

[@larryt.atcycleitalia5786]

Paint the wall! Paint the wall! Paint the wall! You look like not much more than a plaid shirt in front of it otherwise. Otherwise, nice review though enough to tell me my current 11-speed GRX stuff is just fine. If I was buying another gravel groupset/bike it would be Campagnolo's EKAR. Mechanical shifting forever!!!

[@junomaxzoey5146]

"Common men," Barrack Obama? Ummm...perhaps Biden?

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/04/us/politics/obama-espn-cmon-man.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

[@SergioCristancho]

Give me some 😅 🫵🏼 know I need it.

[@amanda_panda_]

I'm just here for the JOM/BD collab intro 😆

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

I had to pay a pretty penny for that celebrity cameo.

[@tuffventures]

+1

[@GravelCyclist]

WELCOME TO THE RIDE WITH BEN DELANEY.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

@@GravelCyclist the check is in the mail.

[@whistlerrealestate1]

Haha - love me some JOM.

[@trwilliams22]

Thanks for always doing a thorough, professional job.

[@thayerkids]

Things that keep me coming back to Shimano in my limited experience, the ergonomics work better for my hands, the brakes feel superior, and everything in general just feels a little more polished.

[@patrickseibold3829]

100%. I’d still ride late 80s dura-ace.

[@trent7919]

I agree. Having had Campy in the past, currently have SRAM Force on my road bike, and various iterations of Shimano on many different road bikes, mtb's and gravel bikes, Shimano just feels more precise and refined, better engineered, and has generally worked flawlessly over many thousands of miles. Shimano will always be my preference.

[@whistlerrealestate1]

@@trent7919 Same

[@echtogammut]

I never know what model of GRX is the more premium. Unlike Dura-Ace, Ultegra, 105... GRX is just all GRX and if you look at part numbers sometimes it will have a 400, 800 but even on their GRX page they don't say anything about 400,600,800. They just have how many speeds in the rear cassette and whether it is Di2 or not. I was looking at a bike at the shop and both models had GRX, I only could assume that since one bike was more expensive than the other... that GRX was "lighter?" Shimano needs to do a better branding and aesthetic distinction between their GRX tiers, because honestly it's all GRX to me.

[@bxf1_]

Love how you break everything down into digestible bites for newbs like me...thanks!!

[@markreams3192]

I was hoping this group would be available soon. I currently ride GRX one by with a Wolf Tooth 38 tooth front ring. Not having a big front ring doesn’t bother me. For the racers they can go with an Ultegra crank. I also prefer mechanical shifting. I don’t think electronic shifting makes a huge difference on the rear. For adventure riding mechanical makes for one less thing that needs charging. It’s also less expensive to replace in the event of a crash. 1 x 12 mechanical is my group of choice.

[@hansschotterradler3772]

38t is still big; I recently switched from 38 to 34t single ring. Guess what, I'm still not using the 11t cog.

[@sccxvelo]

Agree with the 42t 1x chainring. That will not work in local varied terrains and gradients of various lengths. Spun out 42x11 with 11-36 rear on a rival 1 setup on long descent as the group rode away. Also overgeared on the long canyon climb. So will need 2x the but rear gearing is too high from shimano to buy as is. Will have to modify the shimano gearing a bit to work for me. Or just buy sram rival axs which has what said with all the sram options. But love the new shimano wheels.

[@AMehta-ok5pf]

Me, I am tired of having to worry about all the electronics on my bike. Shifter, 2032 batteries, Garmin, make sure charged, power meter, make sure charged, RD, make sure charged, lights, make sure charged, speed sensors, make sure 2032 battery is good. Just tired of it all. Rode my old 1999 bike with rim brakes and could not believe how refreshing it was. Just rode, paying no attention to anything. Shifted perfectly fine and rim brakes actually worked perfectly fine.

[@stevenagy7152]

Ben, Assuming interchangeability between road and gravel groups, do you prefer Shimano road levers or the gravel levers? I don't think I have big hands though apparently the cycling industry does, and standard hoods seem small.

[@gregskinner9210]

That outro is priceless. I don't race and my fitness isn't what it should be, so I'm typically looking for low end. I like the Shimano BB design, preferably non-pressfit and T47. That stated, I've used Shimano cranks with what is otherwise Campag Ekar (9-42t, Checkpoint SL5) and SRAM AXS (10-52t, Checkpoint ALR4) drive trains with good success. The 'glue' ends up being the chain ring, which is Ratio (36t) for the Campy and Wolftooth (40t, 42t) for the SRAM. I like the Garmin power pedals with the Campag and Stages double-sided on the SRAM. I also appreciate that with a little internet research I can find 3rd party parts to mix and match to get what I need. I want this new mechanical Shimano GRX group set for my ALR4. Thanks for sharing your experiences!

[@minidini10]

Great video as always! Thanks for putting the Stages code in the description. I was needing a new power meter for my dream build I'm getting built up now.

[@PauloSerra]

So, how's 1x treating you ? I have changed recently on the gravel bike, and chose the ring size to maintain lowest gear, and had a slight drop in highest gear (no real issue) but the 2 tooth jumps really bugs me when on fast sections ... Thinking about mixing and matching with other cassetes to get smaller jumps there. I don't mind any of the other gear jumps, and as a whole 1x works better for me, as most of the time I use the middle range, so no need to change chainrings on bumpy stuff is definetly a +.

[@xaviermelendez2639]

Come on Shimano, help us out here! Di2!!!! Another great review, Ben!

[@elachichai]

What are the shifter options for flat bar bikes? Could you speak in terms of gear range than teeth? That makes more intuitive sense.

[@TimothyEdwinPixley]

Have you had a chance to look at the L-TWOO offerings?

[@marksandoval5361]

This was low hanging fruit for Shimano. Let's take our 1x Mountain bike drivetrains with 10-51 cassette and make a mechanical dropbar shifter. Shimano and Sram should have done this years ago! It's what everyone wanted. Instead they only made expensive 1x electronic drivetrains with 1x wide range cassettes so that they could milk people out of their money.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

SRAM Apex 12sp comes in mechanical. Everyone has no reason to offer everything though.

[@BoxCarBoy12]

Even after seeing this new GRX I'm still going with Microshift Sword if I end up needing to replace my current groupset

[@danielrussell9416]

Nice to see that they are still supporting mechanical shifting. But I will stick with my 11-speed 105/Ultegra gravel setup.

[@aliancemd]

Having wasted a lot of time and money on exchanging 105 hoods(broken internals) and lots of gear cables, I can’t wait to get rid of mechanical

[@VinceVideo53]

Wolf tooth will look a lot better than shimano anyway

[@jimthebikeguy]

Its a shame they didn't fix the 2x crankset ratios. 48/31 still makes no sense, too long and too short at same time. We need a 44/34 or even the good old 46/36.

[@dustyhoods]

Agree on chainring. When I see 40T on a gravel bike I'm like whaaaat!? I use Garbaruk rings and don't care what manufacturers do. And the time it will get to customers/builds/stock there will be plenty of options. Btw I used x12 chain on a regular chainring (x11) works fine. Try any ring you have.

[@BikeLife154]

Still no post mount brake calipers! I have a Post Mount and a flat mount on my CaadX. It would be nice to buy both GRX calipers instead of an MTB caliper on the front and GRX at the rear.

[@WordupG]

Is the coating on the levers different from the 11-speed version? I was not a fan of that stuff at all. Way too fragile and you can just tell in about ten years it’s gonna degrade into a sticky bummer.

[@rorywalsh7799]

Love your videos Ben, keep up the good work

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

Thank you.

[@jamescourier1545]

I wonder what the gearing difference is with this new 10-51 compared to the XTR 10-51. The XTR is lighter by quite a few grams...........

[@StuartA1985]

Got tired of waiting on 12s Di2, bought an Endurace CF7 105 Di2. Guess I'll keep waiting for Di2 version. Good info.

[@Hintonbro.]

I wish you had taken Shimano to task for only offering up to 11-36 cassette for 2X. Is that the best they can do? Why aren’t they designing it for 11-40?? The masses want wider 2X gearing (or at least the option of it) for a gravel groupset ..

[@neilashton9459]

@TheRidewithBenDelaney are you waxing chains now? (noticed the ultrasonic cleaner on your bench). Could be a good video on the practicality of doing regularly. Also isn’t that garage cold with no insulation in Boulder?

[@lucas7336]

Do we know if the new brake calipers are compatible with the 11spd grx brifters? Out of all the changes, the part that really perked my ears up was possible relief from rubbing chirping brakes as a big guy.

[@une_olive]

The rotors aren’t new?

[@denethorpalantir2815]

Can you put Shimnao MTB derailleurs on GRX shifters (same pull ratio)? HG Free hub body no longer work with my existing I9 torch hub?

[@tonyg3091]

What is the point in 1x setup 40 chainrings and 51t cassette when you can go lower on a 2x setup with 46/30 and 11-40cassette? At the same time your highest gear will also be higher. What is the point?

[@shimona500]

Seems like shimano has carved out the lower segment of gravel groups, while SRAM has the higher end. Makes sense why they only have mech for now.

[@casladek]

any facts on cable pull specs? will the new RD's shift shimano drivetrains setup with 810 11 spd shifters?

[@youling1997]

I really miss Bend. Watching this video reminds me of the smell of pine tree.

[@PRH123]

51 tooth cog... to what extremes will people go just to avoid having a front derailleur... in a few years in the future we will look back and laugh at this 1x silliness, the same way we look back at bellbottom velvet pants and wide polyester ties and laugh.... just goes to show that with enough advertising you can convince people to do anything....

[@hellebarde1450]

Why so? It's more simple and it seems to work, so where is the problem?

[@PRH123]

@@hellebarde1450 well, the below are what I’d list as issues: - very (very) expensive cassettes - narrower overall range of gear ratios - longer derailleur cages - chain line - need to sweep the derailleur across much of the cassette in certain situations 1x makes sense for what it was originally developed for, MTB, where riders frequently shift the front ring and there is a whole lotta skakin’ goin’ on with the terrain, and so there’s risk of a chain drop…. doesn’t make sense for a road, touring, or gravel bike…

[@hellebarde1450]

@@PRH123 Thanks much for the information :)

[@DonutEndurance]

I strongly relate with the outtakes in this video at work today. 😂

[@maxacole]

What is the blue bike in the background?

[@pegacornracing5802]

Hooray for ultra-sonic cleaning.

[@aintnobodygottime4dat]

At those prices they can keep'em.

[@donschloth5785]

Di2 baby! I’m waiting…

[@mejdrichj]

Ben, DI2…. Any ETA? In your opinion?

[@Owebobo]

BEN SPEAKS, I LISTEN.

[@ianthedondaws7559]

Awesome

[@marcguerino5645]

Dang I'm waiting on parts tocdo a mechanical XPLR build. I wanted the GRX stuff but it seemed iffy as to when that would be released. Really tempted to fall back on XPLR and build a 1x GRX. I have a 2x GRX 400 bike and honestly love it so wouldn't mind sticking with Shimano

[@thedownunderverse]

Do it! Plus you’ll avoid toxic DOT

[@kbd13-n9c]

I have 11 speed Shimano road, and SRAM AXS mullet and honestly, I’m leaning towards going Microshift Sword next because it’s 1/4 the price of GRX mechanical. If it was hydro it would basically be game over Shimano/SRAM in my opinion.

[@TheRidewithBenDelaney]

I haven't ridden Microshift in ages. Need to remedy that.