I like that they brought back the wall-ceiling compatibility from the Advance series.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Me too
@The-creator-of-good-videos-152 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I’ve never seen squarish fire alarms with circular or semicircle or half-circle or half-globe strobe lenses.
@danigalan12 ай бұрын
2 days ago in valencia a huge fire destroy a building with 13 floors and 130 homes in less than 50 min. 10 deads. The buildind has not fire alarm, maybe with one will be 0 deads. I love your job keep doing it, you are saving lifes.
@Trout-yz5bk14 күн бұрын
I dont think english was your firs language
@kc0eks2 ай бұрын
Love how you just say it like it is. I learn a lot from you and love the overall vibe. You are right about alarms, mostly no one cares. Aside from those of us that fix em, or collectors. Some collectors have wild wild setups
@FIREalarmNERD2 ай бұрын
Now that I think about it, I think I’ll buy these for my system tests. They look pretty nice 😀. But it’s sad when they discontinued the xenon version
@josephfrye73422 ай бұрын
yeah it sucks when xenon are discontinued but what if led are still addressable instead of conventional?
@UKsystems2 ай бұрын
I like your realistic and real world approach to this video providing clear and useful information. great job.
@gradyvr14402 ай бұрын
I love your fire alarm set up
@chrisgamecave2 ай бұрын
Those are actually really cool! I kinda love it!
@PhilLove5312 ай бұрын
I love the sound of both of them. They are 👍👍💯😃
@JakeAndBeastBoy20022 ай бұрын
Nice New Fire Alarm LED Strobes Video
@thecaden17552 ай бұрын
I love your videos Nick Keep going!
@IanGSully2 ай бұрын
These devices are pretty awesome, actually! Now at first I didn't really like the look of the wall mount version. But with everything that I saw on this video today. They are pretty cool!
@firepro-squad77782 ай бұрын
Very nice alarms! They seemed to be hated on when the announcement first came out, but I actually like them a lot. Maybe even a bit better than the original version. These LED styles look a lot more modern. It’s also interesting about having the panel set the strobe candela.
@Teslamehi2 ай бұрын
Love it! My mom Vanessa is an L-Series Fan, i showed her with the LED L-Series and she loves it! I got her all of the choises P2WLED PC2WLED PC2RLED P2RLED including the normal Xenon horn strobes P2RLA P2RL P2WL P2WLA SWLA SRLA Yah she loves l-series and I love it too because I have xenon l-series horn strobes and a notifer NFS- 320-c (but an NFS-320SYS) because i replaced it
@I_love_electricity2 ай бұрын
Probably going to go for the ceiling devices. Those look the best.
@The_FireAlarmGuy2 ай бұрын
Nice 😍 Love the look of them 😊
@maas12082 ай бұрын
These Guys are Replacing Old Simplex Mechanical Horns, Truealert Remote Strobes and 4903s at my High School.
@zachzebra562 ай бұрын
Nice video! To be honest, I acually do kinda like the design of the led strobes on these alarms. They are quite sleek looking. I just like the design of the xenon strobes more. Mainly comparing the wall mount ones. They look more sleeker IMO. But for what its worth, they are still really nice. And I do like how they look just like a xenon strobe when they flash. (Totally referring to the wheelock LED exceeder)
@TimothyMTran7062 ай бұрын
Not really surprised, I like when I saw the Fresh Look of LED Strobe Flashing.
@johnnytest93552 ай бұрын
These are nice alarms. And I think my district will install these in a new addition to an elementary school. My district is either System Sensor or Ests.
@johnnytest93552 ай бұрын
And yes please do a full on comparison with those 2 alarms.
@NyxKemo2 ай бұрын
Not as bad as I thought, although I’m still not a fan of the wall mount looks. An alarm I recommend you should get is the Mircom FHS-400 i’d like to see your perspective and opinion on them, they are LED strobe alarms and they’re super good imo
@Williams_elektronik2 ай бұрын
Nice video nic. A tear down wold be fun (Sorry but im bad at enghlis im from sweden)
@josh_spc20202 ай бұрын
25:46 wow that's so bright
@Dilsonalarmsandelectrics2 ай бұрын
Nick the other school I went to had no pull stations no sprinkler heads. It only has smoke and heat detectors and our. Nac was system sensor, ceiling mount low frequency, sound
@Siren_StrObE2 ай бұрын
Wow! My high school just so happens to have a system replacement with l-series speaker strobes
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Surprised they are able to get speaker strobes already
@Siren_StrObE2 ай бұрын
Me too as voice evac is not common in my area which shocked, me when I found out there were L-series speaker strobes. They are the first L-series speakers I have ever seen in person.@@nics-systems-electric
@ESTedwards2 ай бұрын
Are there any specific scenarios or environments where these new LED devices would be particularly advantageous compared to older models, aside from the general benefits you've mentioned?
@B9L3_Official2 ай бұрын
It's really cool. Maybe you could put these LED Strobe on your system.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
In theory I could yes I have two different systems that are all Zenon strobes however
@TransGalGaming2 ай бұрын
O.o system sensor is in my neck of the woods ha... never knew that!
@ariothegamer52 ай бұрын
It looks nice
@keithpierce84582 ай бұрын
They are cool leds
@XboxMinion242 ай бұрын
Yeah, I see what you’re saying about the System Sensor LED L-Series, I don’t like them because the strobes flash pretty short like the other fire alarm strobe does and they could be loud. Instead of saying the LED L-Series, I would only say the LED Series. But I see that they replaced them and it looks cool though. So I like the L-Series better just like I had one.
@Ultimatetvman20232 ай бұрын
I am the biggest fan I love your vids❤
@Worldofgaiming-hx9gu2 ай бұрын
They look nice though I think
@HenBasketFireAlarms2 ай бұрын
Nice video. What you said about enthusiasts hating on the design is quite true. When Wheelock first released the Eluxa, I hated on it but don’t mind it now. I originally thought these were gonna have something similar to Wheelock’s solution, having a separate selection for T3 and T3/T4 with T3/T4 being chosen via muted/unmuted sync signal. However, now I think given the FCP setting, that Honeywell will release some sort of wired addressable mounting base (and update SWIFT bases) that will send the T3/T4 and candela information to the alarm. Although, I do wonder what would happen if you powered the alarm using a silenced sync signal. My guess is it will only flash, but who knows?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Yes something definitely will be released I did try these on sync mute/audible silence in this video if that's what you mean and they do perform the same as previous models
@HenBasketFireAlarms2 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricI meant on initial power-up, not silencing after already receiving a horn signal
@raf-e-leo2 ай бұрын
They are cool
@JacksonHaley2 ай бұрын
The wall mount looks weird but I love the ceiling mount
@the_1drummajor2 ай бұрын
I foresee that in the more distant future that a device that can support amber/white/blue LED strobe in one device will be a thing, as well as having the audio components support both low frequency, 3k, and some kind of standard 1k tone in various different patterns. Possibly a compact speaker strobe or something. Also, albeit not common now, I can see that addressable and intelligent NA will become a future reality (which could be useful for pinning down a troubled device instead of hunting a device down in a sea of devices within a given circuit). I am curious to see what the future holds but I can say that these devices will become more simpler to deal/manage/maintain with than before.
@Pomni19462 ай бұрын
Damn so cool.
@olivers_level_crossing_uk2 ай бұрын
Nice
@siphonralarms94112 ай бұрын
I don’t think these devices look bad at all. Sure they may look a little odd, but that makes them a little bit unique (especially for being modern devices). The LED strobe lens looks kinda cool in my opinion. And yes us Americans do need voice instructions on how to evacuate, considering we’re dumber than a rock lol
@Dilsonalarmsandelectrics2 ай бұрын
Nick, are you gonna put one of those LED horn strobes on the garage fire alarm system
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
No idea
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@stampynate007 not sure
@Worldofgaiming-hx9gu2 ай бұрын
Cool
@Aron-cu9qu2 ай бұрын
Cool My school has a l series out side for sprinklers system do you have a wired cctv system
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Which isn't actually legal. And yes I do have a wired camera system
@Aron-cu9qu2 ай бұрын
Are you going to do a video about that
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@Aron-cu9qu yes i did
@stopmotionbymg12212 ай бұрын
If the horns can do both temp 3 and temp 4 with panel control an idea is a normal horn strobe with a amber strobe next to it that would go off when a co alarm went off and the normal strobe when a fire alarm goes off.
@HenBasketFireAlarms2 ай бұрын
*CO, CO₂ is the gas you breathe out
@stopmotionbymg12212 ай бұрын
O crap I’ll Chang it thanks for saying that
@Xxjim197shorts2 ай бұрын
I think the durability testing videos are funniness
@wibwabz2 ай бұрын
great video nic! i can't wait to see other companies make LED versions also. QUESTION: when will the next durability test video be? Also, are you going to replace the alarms in your house with LED ones?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Not sure if there will be any more durability testing videos and no I would not replace my house that would be a huge waste for no reason would be thousands of dollars
@wibwabz2 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric why no more durability tests? that makes sense, the current ones work just fine.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@wibwabz they cost time and money and not many people watch them and haven't been spending much time with others to be able to make them
@wibwabz2 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ahh, makes sense.
@FireAlarmDude59672 ай бұрын
I definitely like them. Everyone always hates on the new devices but they objectively look good and are a superior device
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
People didn't like the xenon L-series when they first came out either. The problem is people seem to forget that these are a life safety device their primary function is to be effective at signalling a fire alarm. Being aesthetically pleasing is not a priority and functionally these offer much more than what they are replacing. As far as I'm concerned that is the main reason for in my opinion good redesign.
@FireAlarmDude59672 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric ^^^ People hated on the wheelock exceder, the new LED Eluxas, the new LED Edwards horn strobes, and basically anything new that comes out. It’s even funnier when meatheads say they’d install a device that’s been discontinued for decades because “they’re better”
@Jimmy06blue2 ай бұрын
Even though I do prefer the regular xenon L series, but the LEDs are awesome
@The_FireAlarmGuy2 ай бұрын
Nic 😊, could you put the Led system sensor cealling strobe/ horn on your ressessed cealling?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
What's a recessed ceiling?
@HenBasketFireAlarms2 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricwild guess, but maybe he means the drop ceiling?
@The_FireAlarmGuy2 ай бұрын
Yes the dropped cealing😊 @@nics-systems-electric
@The_FireAlarmGuyАй бұрын
Yes the dropped cealliing😊
@nics-systems-electricАй бұрын
@@The_FireAlarmGuy no, there is no box there
@EYL89022 ай бұрын
Also they sound the same as the xenon L - Series. Which they're using the same horn tone which is no surprise. But honestly there is some room for improvement for System Sensor to update the LED L - Series, just like Wheelock did with the LED Exceders.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
What would you suggest to be updated? I don't see the horn tone being a problem.
@EYL89022 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric The strobe flash could be more like and act like a xenon flash. Like the Wheelock Exceder LED3...
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@EYL8902 that is what it does.
@EYL89022 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Fair enough. I might get one too. lmao
@jaydeniverson33732 ай бұрын
How do you figure out how many fire alarms you can put on one circuit.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
You do load calculations
@irisdiaz93232 ай бұрын
cool 😎 🆒
@UriahTronics2 ай бұрын
My opinion is the xenon looks better but these look fine.
@ryancrooks1232 ай бұрын
Maybe You Can Install The Ceiling Mount LED Horn Strobe On The Ceiling In Your House And Add It To Your House Fire Alarm System In The Kitchen Area Because Your Kitchen In Your House Probably Needs The Ceiling Mount LED Horn Strobe Because Kitchen Is The Most Prone Area Of Grease Fires Oven Fires Or Any Kitchen Related Fire
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
The house uses low frequency sounders so can't have mixed signals. A horn strobe in the kitchen would not offer any greater protection it will not do anything for detecting a fire no matter what type
@Sourcehammer2 ай бұрын
Personally I prefer the design of the old L-series strobe, I think it would have looked better if they kept the strobe lens and just put an led in it like some other led strobes
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
The whole device is thicker that would likely decrease strobe output this now allows for 360° of strobe coverage the device is superior over the xenon strobe it replaces you have to remember fire alarms are a safety product that is what's important not the aesthetic look
@mattdude2 ай бұрын
As someone in the industry, what would you say is the reason why most installers go with system sensor in just about every new installation? Is there something they have that other brands don’t? Just something I’m curious about.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
I think they have a pretty wide compatibility range easy to install and many distributors carry them they might have a lower cost compared to Wheelock and Gentex who are the competition
@washingmachinelad3562 ай бұрын
I think this will be installed in one of your school districts that will replace the old systems in the future
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
It depends many of our upcoming projects already have the devices but eventually they will be installed I will not be around for that though
@Photoelectric_Elevators2 ай бұрын
This may be one of the most controversial fire alarms of all time lmao
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
I don't know why it's just a new generation of the previous device very similar
@Xxjim197shorts2 ай бұрын
Nic when are you going to make another durability testing video?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Maybe never who knows
@Xxjim197shorts2 ай бұрын
Hello
@clementnaze56452 ай бұрын
You changed your security camera
@mikesapienza12112 ай бұрын
Do you think they will make one that has Voice Evac capabilities?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Yes as I said horn versions are coming out first and chimes and low frequency sounders speaker strobes will be released in early 2024
@mikesapienza12112 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Ok, I must have missed that. Sounds like these will be much more reliable!
@LF5xu2 ай бұрын
this is offtopic but whats yo opinion on wheelock's alarms
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
They are alright though they seem a little cheap especially that low frequency sounder sounds like crap but I guess it gets the job done
@GaryBeltz2 ай бұрын
I can't believe people judge something like a fire alarm by its looks. It's not meant to look beautiful it's meant to alert your and get your butt out of the burning building.
@Jimmy06blue2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that is something that people should know is that it’s not meant for us to collect. It’s meant to be installed in buildings to alert people that there’s a fire, but we should be thankful that were able to collect fire alarms as a hobby.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Yeah pretty much
@raf-e-leo2 ай бұрын
How expensive are them on Amazon?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Not sure if they are available
@chadrowland52342 ай бұрын
I wish they would come out with an LED mass horn/strobe. I have tons of System Sensor masses still in use with mass horn being coded to code 3 or temporal. Why don't System Sensor come out with an LED mass?
@NyxKemo2 ай бұрын
Their MA/SS devices are long discontinued and won’t be brought back as there’s isn’t much of a point of having multi tones for a fire alarm that only has 1 input, and Federal Signal rebrands Fulleon Roshni and Flashni sounders for when multi tone is needed
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
And I don't think any way to synchronize with modern devices
@chadrowland52342 ай бұрын
But still! It would have been awesome as all get out! Or at least it would have been interesting nonetheless to see what the System Sensor mass would have looked like in an LED version. I would imagine that the strobe would be ultra flat against the body of the mass horn and low profile and barely visible on the horn body. Do they have a 4 wire LED horn/strobe?
@peterking11342 ай бұрын
It is weird that the effects of reverse polarity are not discussed
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
I agree
@peterking11342 ай бұрын
Are the test points on the new units marked + or - ?
@joshfriesen94012 ай бұрын
Nic just called Americans dumb for needing directions to evacuate. I fully agree. Here in Canada we just know what to do in a fire.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
I've never seen a problem with a non-voice assisted evacuation if people want to ignore it that is their choice and they can ignore both I don't know how you could hear something and not understand that it's an alarm to evacuate though. If it is a custom message with specific instructions that are non-typical for a specific building then that's different.
@joshfriesen94012 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricI’ve only noticed that once when the continuous bells were replaced with horn strobes at my school. The teacher had to tell the students to evacuate.
@gameranoniem38722 ай бұрын
9:30 I see a new camera above your head!
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Yes
@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire75542 ай бұрын
These are kind of cool, actually. Kind of sucks that people don't like the design of these.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
People don't realize that the design is not everything especially appearance for a life safety device. Many don't seem to be educated enough to understand there is more to it than the appearance.
@joeycaridi30302 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Many new LED L-Series devices were made in September of 2023 because of the date code saying something like: "3095" the date numbers of the date code are as followed: First digit: The number of the year of it's last digit Second and third digit: The numbers of the current month Fourth digit: The number of the week of the month
@bigfoot13s802 ай бұрын
I'd say one difference is the strobe shows up on camera
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Yes I pointed that out in the video that this video was recorded at 30 FPS which usually you need at least 60 FPS to reliability capture fire alarm strobes and it is still unreliable
@UKsystems2 ай бұрын
That panel is 'snappy' because it dose a lot less so the processor isn't running as much stuff
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
I don't know though as a addressable panel without any devices programmed is doing about the same amount if not less as it's not looking for anything
@Jimmy06blue2 ай бұрын
I have 2 led L series. One is a horn strobe and the other is a remote strobe they’re both wall mount in red
@groundingjimmy062 ай бұрын
🤡
@Jimmy06blue2 ай бұрын
@@groundingjimmy06 how do you know what videos I’m commenting on!?
@Jimmy06blue2 ай бұрын
@@groundingjimmy06 how about you go get a job instead of making yourself look worse.
@groundingjimmy062 ай бұрын
@@Jimmy06blue bro said he was gonna ignore the haters 💀💀💀
@groundingjimmy062 ай бұрын
It’s the truth nobody cares about what alarms you have stop flexing them
@Firealarmperson9022 ай бұрын
where do you buy your system sensor products.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
eBay
@AdviAllen2 ай бұрын
13 like!
@djbryce2 ай бұрын
I'm no expert, but aren't they basically the exact same alarms with just different covers?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Same horn and mounting base different strobe and different electronics inside to support future protocols for synchronization
@djbryce2 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Sorry, I was unclear. I meant the two new units. Aren't they just the same with different covers?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@djbryce they are definitely very similar the strobe is centred in the ceiling device however not on the wall so that may be a difference but it's hard to tell until I open them up
@See_you19952 ай бұрын
Can i have?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
You can buy them from wholesalers and eBay
@See_you19952 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric no eBay in 🇵🇭
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@See_you1995 have to find a wholesaler then
@See_you19952 ай бұрын
I do have on notifier
@Sylvite.2 ай бұрын
22:04 *cough* wheelock *cough*
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Yep lol
@FireAlarmsOfPensacolaFlorida2 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, Nics systems and electric posted
@animated_things2 ай бұрын
They do look kinda weird
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Some people do find them strange I found them strange at first before seeing them in person
@Xxjim197shorts2 ай бұрын
System sensor p2aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@FESPerson29742 ай бұрын
I feel like people are going to use these nowadays
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Well yes they will have to the old product version is discontinued
@FESPerson29742 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric Yeah I guess it’s depends if someone has a old device then they can just get replaced
@CGray12342 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricWait so the P2s and P2Ls are discontinued?
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@CGray1234 yes
@CGray12342 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electricaw that’s a shame… I really like those alarms. Probably plenty on eBay tho lol
@aidenlui20562 ай бұрын
Those look so weird.
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
The wall mount definitely looks much different I find the ceiling mount looks better than the old xenon version
@jaxrules28922 ай бұрын
They are so crappy
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
Did you watch my review? Because they are actually a much better device than the product they replace.
@maiyo85182 ай бұрын
I don’t like it, it makes me throw up. I HATE IT 😠
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
I wasn't a huge fan of the design at first myself however seeing them in person they are fine in fact the ceiling mount one looks better than the older generation. If you like them or don't like them we will be seeing them all over as they will replace previous generations. functionally it is a much better product which is the main concern.
@maiyo85182 ай бұрын
@@nics-systems-electric I like the old fire alarm’s better than the very new ones
@nics-systems-electric2 ай бұрын
@@maiyo8518 you must be basing it purely off of looks as it is functionally a better device there is no argument there however visual appearance is a opinion that each can form
@CGray12342 ай бұрын
@@maiyo8518did... did you even watch the video? these alarms are wayyy better than the older ones