NEW TAYLORMADE P-790 IRONS REVIEWED

NEW TAYLORMADE P790 IRONS REVIEWED
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[@William45ish]

I bought a set (4-PW) of these irons when they were brand new in 2018. I was still a single figure handicap, but as I was getting older and in my late 50’s, I wanted a little more help and forgiveness. I still wanted a traditional looking iron as well so there wasn’t much if any choice out there. As soon as I tried out these irons, I feel in love with them. Not only did they look gorgeous, they were easy to hit with great feel and looked very traditional. It really ticked all the boxes. Theses clubs would suit someone who’s a low handicap but looking for a bit of help and forgiveness or a person who’s reached a level where cavity back irons feel too chunky. They are a good introduction to blade irons for someone who is coming down from 14 - single figure handicap. I won’t be upgrading these for another couple of years until I need to change shaft flex as they are the best irons that I’ve ever hit and beautiful to look at.

[@krizkibblewhite2351]

I was fitted and bought a full set of P790’s yesterday. I currently have the RSi2 iron which are fantastic irons but I was blown away by the P790 and just had to buy them. I did try all of the P range plus many other brands but I couldn’t believe the look, feel & consistency of the P790. My handicap is 6.

[@oolaspalmas]

I just bought these irons and agree with you about look, feel and consistency. Tested against Titleist AP2 & AP3. It looks perfect behind ball compared to Titleist clubs. Feel is just superb when hitting to sweet spot. Off center hits also come out suprisingly good loosing hardly any distance. Very high launch concidering the loft. Titleist AP3 produced similiar ball flight but i didn't like the too soft feel in that club and it was not consistent enough compared to P 790. Compared to my old Callaway X20 clubs i gained 10-15m distance and ball is launching much higher. Can't say about spin rates but it seemed like good values since ball was sucking itself up in to air. I was blown away how big difference there was to my old clubs. Can't wait to take these clubs to a round.

[@jayloks3]

2023 and I just bought some. And my god do I love them

[@epdiablo25]

Rick, thanks for your review on the P790s. I was just fitted and ordered the P790s. Really loved the feel and distance results I got. Evidently my current irons (Ping i25s) shafts were all wrong for me. My fitter (Sittlers Golf Center, Ricky Kline) identified several issues and set me up big time. Really excited for this golf season. Thanks for your thorough review.

[@valdezrl]

Love people saying they copied PXG. TM had a blade look, foam filled iron in the early 90's. They are not new to this concept.

[@svenhallauer3229]

Rick, I think you must have had an off-day when you tested the P770 and P750 in Orlando. I suggest you retest them, now that the remainder of the family has launched. Maybe a 7-iron comparison from P-790 all the way down to the P-730

[@xyarza]

Got a 3-AW set in Ft Lauderdale, with a Nippon 95 shafts, 2 degrees flat, regular loft and length. Amazing to recover, at 58 years of age, the distance of years long past-by plus the control and feel of mi Mizunos MP68. Gap between clubs is quite regular in full swings, from 130 yards with the PW to about 210 with the 3I -I later got the 2I (driving Iron), which can well reach 240+ yards from off the tee. Must use higher-end golf balls, as “distance” balls become difficult to control, not to mention shaping the shot. Takes a few rounds to realize one can truly trust these irons, astonishing in pure hit shots and quite forgiving in slight misshits. Nevertheless, getting fitted for these clubs is a must.

[@CorekBleedingHollow]

I like the P790s. Even the shots that felt like miss hits off the club face had a decent, forgiving ball flight.

[@golf_is_a_happy_place9990]

After 90 mins and a full fitting session at my home course with the Taylormade rep on hand, I now own these beauties. 4-pw with NS PRO Modus 105 shafts... marvellous :-) Cheers Rick for the review. BTW the 4 iron for me is outstanding and very consistent strike. keep up the good work.

[@johnaryan2]

I went with the same shafts! But I did 5-AW...Depending on how the 5i goes, I may go back for the 4i...love the concept of getting some accuracy at that distance and leaving hybrids and fairways in the bag until absolutely necessary..

[@golf_is_a_happy_place9990]

4 iron is my saviour on shorter par 4s, or there's very little room with trees on both sides on a tight fairway. Even off the fairway it works for me :-)

[@scottkruse3887]

I've had these clubs for 3 months now. Best set I've ever had!

[@luisr2810]

I was just fitted, to replace my 1982 Eyes 2. After trying different shafts with different club heads, it came down to the P790 or Rogue Pro. The feel and look, and obviously forgiveness, led me to choosing the P790. Numbers were very similar. I was fitted on a trackman, using a 6 iron. While hitting between 175-185, and getting maybe 7-8 yards of roll, I felt that even though my spin rate decreased, I was getting more distance and accuracy from these clubs. I currently am a 17 HC.

[@marcinos708]

I just bought this set at a huge discount thanks to the new model being released! Finally got my dream set of clubs and finally moved on from my old Maxfli VHL clubs.

[@iconicstance2994]

I'm doing the same👍🏻

[@nicolainilsen5101]

Im considering doing the same thing. They are at a "discount" here now. 800£. Im still rocking my callaway x18's but they are falling apart from wear and tear.

[@tiborsol7959]

Just got a set of 2017 edition p790 4 to pw with grip master roo swinger leather grips for $1100 AUD. Close enough to half the price of the 2019 set.

[@liamhack6]

Tried the 8 iron of this set a while back, nice irons awesome feel if they continue the speed foam for a couple years my next set could look into them

[@johnaryan2]

I have been researching and experimenting for months now, as I've been ready to let go of my old Callaway X20's that I had custom fit by Hot Stix about 11 years back. I could never get more than 135 yards out of my 7 iron (my 6 went about the same and the 5 felt clunky) So, I'd end up using hybrids or coming up short on par 2's beyond that distance. I had demo'd a variety of clubs and have been experimenting with a single Ping G400 Max (7 iron only) for the last few weeks and it just wasn't doing it for me. My distance wasn't improving and I wasn't getting the feedback I needed. I was also annoyed with the fine chrome finish starting to wear off on the first trip to the range with the Pings. So I went out to the PGA Superstore today, grabbed the M4, MCGB's and P790 irons. I figured the P790's would be hard for me to hit being a high teens handicapper. But I added them to the mix after seeing this review. I simply could not believe how far they went and how good they felt. I gained 30 yards on average with the P790's compared to my Callaway's. (165 yds vs 135 yds) Granted the M4's went far too - but it felt a tad heavy and the feel wasn't there. My longest came in at 177 (total) which was absolutely shocking to me for a 7 irons. I ordered them up and am pretty pumped to get this next chapter started. Thanks for bringing these to my attention Rick - I really thought these clubs were out of my league until you brought them into focus!

[@gegh08]

Thanks heaps for the honesty and fun of your review as always. I'm a Taylor Made fan and after this video have added this to my must buy list, which I'll go down to my local golf shop and get fitted for as soon as I can.

[@CorekBleedingHollow]

Oh yeah, I was at a demo day and I'm choosing between the P790s and the G410 irons. I hit some great shots with those.

[@stephenkenny7703]

I hit these myself today and I'm in love😍

[@williammurphy3070]

I had already ordered these clubs before watching this video and Rick has only reinforced what I felt after trying them out. I wanted a club that launched high and came down steep but still maintained distance and these did all that and more. I also tried the new MCGB and JPX900 HOT irons and neither compared to the feel and control of these irons. I cannot wait for my new set but will have to as TM have entirely sold out and have been taken aback by their popularity !

[@wolfman6252]

I saw this club at my local shop today and was very curious as to where it was positioned in their line. I did not hit it but thought the look was outstanding. I came home to see what Rick thought of it. He had some nice things to say. I will hit it and add a comment for us very average golfers consideration.

[@daveharrison5298]

Hi Rick I have ordered a set of P790 irons on 4th Dec can't wait for them to come.

[@davidmorrell540]

just started watching your site and enjoying it , and thinking of buying a new set of irons ,so this is helping decide

[@rahulrajendran4066]

I love how these irons are doing the same thing as the m2 irons but he's not bashing on them like the m2s

[@danielirene2706]

Mr. Rick I'm pretty fresh into playing. First fitting started out with Callaway apex.hit them great, but the look started getting to me. I know that's a silly thing to say. Traded them in for the taylormade M4s just on looks over playability (I know bad form) really disliked the feel and playability. Watched your reviews of the P790s witch I was looking at for awhile and just came in today btw. I'm very excited to play them, and just wanted to let you know you were a great influence for my decision.

[@Mat_Scott]

I currently play RSi2 irons and an upgrade is on the horizon. Wonder how these compare?

[@J.M.S.S.p]

How are these for a mid handicapped player? Shooting a high 80 low 90. Thanks!

[@adamhopkins172]

Had a bash of the 9 iron on 17th Edinburgh Wentworth - 9 iron stopped on a sixpence - great feel little or no offset great club

[@tiborsol7959]

Any plan to test the updated version of these Rick? The “superseded version” is priced very keenly if you can get hold of them. They have some minor cosmetic changes which I don’t really care about but would be curious to hear whether you felt there was any significant improvement to performance feel or sound.

[@stevenwakeley9790]

Tried these clubs at American golf and love the feel of them. Playing with a set of taylormade burner plus at mo off an 18 handicap and just off to order these after a fitting . At 55 hope I can get a few shots of my handicap ?? Will update how they play after a few rounds when I pick them up ...

[@FixthisCD]

His carry on the P-790 7 iron was 181. When he tested the P770 it was at 174 and the M1 was at 184. My thoughts is that the degrees of loft are same in the M1 and P790 and I believe the lowest club is the 3. Also the spins are similar in the P790 and M1. TM should make the same design but more fitting to their P770 to use as Mizuno did with Mp-h5 irons, making a 1, 2, 3 at same lofts as the MP5's.

[@francorivera3824]

Tbh I am kinda sceptical about the speed foam, I'm wondering about the durability of the club for players with a higher smash factor and higher swing speed.

[@benhanglin]

So the 4 iron only goes 20 yards further than the 7 iron.....

[@w.trunks2472]

Rick would love for you to show us around that bay. Clubs in the bag. What people are putting on your wall after lessons etc

[@ArjanStotheH]

Crossfield reviewed the p770 the other day and really liked them. Rick, as he said in this video, does not that much. So what do we learn from this ? Get fitted.....i'm using Nike irons at the moment so will do that in the near future. These irons look really good though.

[@dembsFB81]

Hey Rick love the review as always. Apologies if I missed this but what shafts were you using for this review and were they the new grey Tour Velvet 360 grips? Interested in these with the AMT's but now apparently TT is making an AMT Tour White. Have you had a chance to hit the new one? Cheers!

[@jackwalsh4175]

Beautiful, gonna try to get this in a 3 iron can't wait for that

[@paulikenneth1]

Just pre-ordered these irons in Black. Thanks Rick

[@barracatcher6466]

The only club I've seen that would tempt me to give up my AP2's. Starting to loose my swing speed with age (near 50) and playing off 15. May have to go for a little look at them, and do a comparison on the simulator with my current set. More result for less effort sounds good to me. Mind you will need to feel sweet to best the AP2's.

[@zachschnetzler5700]

12 handicap, currently playing the m2's. I've never been able to pick up a club while testing it and hit it flush or consistent until a few swings in until I tested out these clubs at golf galaxy. My first to last swing with each club of the P790 felt absolutely amazing. I've also never been fitted for clubs, so I think if I can convince my wife to let me upgrade this upcoming season, I am definitely going to get the P790's and get fitted, especially after watching a couple of your review videos on these clubs. Love your videos Rick Shiels, keep it up!

[@johnpaxinos8470]

Hey Rick, is Rob coming on soon to do some testing of these and also please have him on for the new AP Titleist testing in a coupe of days. Cheers

[@pigeonpecker7623]

Hi Rick would you recommend these irons for someone who is looking to tae golf more seriously, I do play and I'm comfortable hitting irons off the ground but want a set to take my game to the next level, regards

[@NikNak56Eagles]

Got a set coming in !! Can’t wait to hit these and game em !

[@colins.6170]

Beautiful looking club.......not a huge fan of the hollow head designs though.....I like mid to small size cavity backs.

[@hollywood1513]

Ordered these with c-taper lites. Can't wait!

[@commane21]

Beautiful clubs, but I really like the feel of the 770's. Don't know why you think they're hard -- there's a dullness to them, kind of a thud at strike, which I like a lot. Competes with Titleist and Srixon forged for sure.

[@somename8831]

I don't hit very far but I am very accurate but I thought new clubs might make me hit longer. Tested a new six iron and it went the same distance as my 10 year old club... then I gave the club to a hard hitting young man and he did a 200 yard carry with it. Think I need to hit the gym instead of buying new clubs.. but these do look very good... :)

[@bigc2092]

Hey rick I'm about anywhere between a 15-20 handicap depending on how much I've drank that day j/k. I had the jpx900 forged but had a problem getting height outta those irons. Would you recommend the p770 or p790 ? Thanks

[@astroidother3609]

These remind me of the Adams XTD Forged irons. I have that set and they feature much of this tech save for the filling. Great clubs.

[@garyduke23]

Hey Rick, which irons do you like more, Taylormade PSI or the P790? I purchased a used set of PSIs but haven't played them yet. Thanks.

[@hrh4905]

I really like the look of them and i hit a demo 7 iron about 185 at golftec. I'm sure it's because of the strong loft. That's the only demo iron they had in the 790's. But i too am concerned about the gapping between the 7 and the PW. 50 yards, with only two clubs in there? I've seen several others ask about the gapping concerns but don't see a single reply from Rick or others addressing it. I'd love to buy a set of these, to replace my old TM R11's (yes, it's time), but i don't want to have a 50 yard gap to fill with just two clubs. (and then going higher, he only picks up about 30 yards going from 7 to 4)

[@vetle2762]

Got to give them credit for innovating. Seems they've got a club more similar in look and feel to a blade, but with the extra forgiveness. Strong lofts, but high launches and it seems to have found another niche in the market where you have a feel and traditional looks based club that higher handicappers that can't handle genuine blades can use. Would love to see head to head comparisons of these clubs with more traditional lofted ones, but not based on number on the club or even loft. Just whatever clubs get you the same distance. So if you hit a modern 7 iron 200 yards then compare that to the traditional club you'd have to hit to get there (maybe as low as 5 iron) and see how stopping power compares then. I suspect traditional ones with more spin will still have more control and stop, but I don't think the differences are massive since the modern clubs maybe launch higher when comparing clubs that go the same distance.

[@cpri555]

no name haha innovating.. copying PXG you mean?

[@ajdsparky]

Rick, I really enjoy your videos. I have a question. When you do a club review and club comparison; why don’t you put them up against “what’s in your bag.” I would be interested in how they compare; workability, distance, dispersion, etc. We all know you strike the ball very well.

[@MrMalditor]

The lofts always turn me off. I don't need extra help with distance, I need better spin to stop shots on the green.

[@olove9395]

What irons do you currently play? I just got fitted for 2019 p790s and feel that I do not need the extra distance it provides either.

[@mattgraber9229]

@@olove9395 if you're looking for forged check out AP2s or T100s. In TM look P760. They have decent feel and better lofts with 7 at 34 or 35. I play CB/MBs which are 35 degrees at 7 iron, originally thought id like p790s but lofts were wayyyyy too strong.

[@MichaelFlagfeldt]

Hey guys or rick. do you know when the new Titleist range of irons is avalible for the puplic to buy?

[@martimtommy]

Looks fantastic. Great review rick! My only concern is that all these new irons are getting ridiculous price tags. Hopefully this sits in around 700£ or like 750€

[@andrewwilliams9831]

Over a g

[@TTT-Turbo]

Is it just the shafts that's in them that don't suit you probably for the height there going. Bit tip soft possibly. What shafts are in them?? Love the look of these and want to get a fitting on them soon.

[@davidmccaig8903]

How do you get your pro V ones back from the range Rick?

[@estebanknorr2621]

David McCaig I’ve been thinking about that for a while too

[@jadenmcintyre9301]

Working at a golf course, I can answer this question. Most likely what is happening here is that his Pro V's and picked with the other balls, and when being washed, they are sorted out from the range balls.

[@gamarosado]

Rick I had the RSI 1 (until they were stolen from my car today) when I started playing 2 years ago and went from 21hcp down to 10hcp I'm interested in getting fitted for the first time with the P-790 are they somewhat similar to the RSI 1??

[@Three_Bears1020]

Rick, curious. I just went back and looked at the Tour Preferred MC 2012 model. Still playing this model with zero complaints. You were hitting that 7 Iron 165-170. Now hitting the 790 model 190+. Do you attribute that to your personal swing improvement, equipment, or what? You did a 5 year drive comparison but would like to see an iron comparison as well. Thanks

[@Guitarpick1770]

I was curious if any testing has been done regarding extreme weather conditions and effects on the foam and cavity. Cold vs extreme heat.

[@donb3133]

Have you tested to see if the performance changes at deferent temperatures? Seems the foam would harden while cold and soften during hot days?

[@jeffsmith8958]

Rick you’re getting some hate here about you loving all clubs but I’d beg to differ as you essentially said the 750 and 770 weren’t up your alley in this very video! Also, in this price range and this range of golfer, there are just bunches of really good irons out there from the major manufacturers! My country club has all these sets for demo and the P790 is a great club, I’m not a fan of the thickness but the feel is excellent.

[@TTT-Turbo]

Rick, have you tested the 2 iron against the 2 iron from PXG. Would love to see that. Cheers.

[@danielroyster2725]

This club reminds me of my old Taylormade TD Blades. Speed foam is back!

[@maxwellhowell]

5 years later, i, trade my mp-32 and $75 for some jpx900 ....s200 shafts suck, so i traded the jpx900 and $250 for a set of these. i only hit the 4 iron. projectx lz 6.5 shafts, sets like new, guy bought them, didnt play much, traded them in a couple years later for current irons. the 4 iron felt like a 8 iron, the feel off the face, the flush feeling strike of a centered hit. i probably hit 20 balls then went to the counter to barter. theyre getting regripped tomorrow and Saturday ill play them for the first time. (i cant afford mizuno 225 with modus tx or x flex 😂🙃)

[@carlosameglio4607]

Hi Rick, these irons look really nice. How do they compare against the Callaway XR Pro?

[@tanapholrp]

Hi RS. Greetings from Bangkok Thailand. What you reccommend between TM P790 or AP3 718. My HC is around 8 but my herniate disc hurt 3 years ago. Just came back to play for a year. Want to make my gokf easier as I cant hit as hard as before. Now I am using my old set Mizuno MP30 but losing 10 yards.

[@raginasianinvasion]

tanapholrp go AP3 with recoil smacwrap shafts.

[@raginasianinvasion]

AP3 has a lighter head weight, will be easier on your back

[@tanapholrp]

@@raginasianinvasion Thank you very much.

[@johnleonard3806]

My 15 year old with a 65 mph club speed hit these in a simulator today. 145 on the fly with a 7 iron is 20 yards more than he gets with his Ping S57's.

[@danielsmith3981.8]

Just watched Chris Ryan testing these and he carried 7 iron over 200 yards !!

[@lukpri84]

They are a solid looking and performing iron but at the price point of just over £1050 they should be! I know Rick didn't touch on the price (probably under embargo or something). I'd have to wait a year for the price to drop before I'd ever consider replacing my PSi's.

[@dunny1977jd]

They look really nice. Not a big fan of the speed slot, makes it look a bit cheesy. The first 2 models they brought out are really good irons though. I know you weren't a fan, but you should give them another go. Maybe a head to head with all 3 irons.

[@sunnyduscle]

This might be the first TM iron I will get - I will still bend it to 1 deg more. No way I am playing PW @ 45. I need it 46.

[@stinman101]

I wonder if the weather has any effect on the foam, be it high heat of sitting in a car's trunk on a 95* day or playing in the fall when it's 45*. That would be interesting to see tested, but I'm sure TM ironed out those details in beta.

[@yadthink]

Great looking club and I like the hollow head concept, but I'm starting to question the need for so many different iron models from TM and Callaway.

[@DN4AGDX]

I think they look great. Almost as nice as my RSI 2 irons.🤗

[@TakuyaSawada_BR]

How about forgiveness of long irons? Which is better TM P790 or Mizuno MP20 HMB?

[@ignaciocervantes95]

Would you pick these over the Apex 19s? How do they compare to them?

[@golfguru5736]

Rick you have to get and review the new TaylorMade 2 iron P790 UDI... let us know!

[@el_duderino_man]

My guess is the "Speed foam" is an afterthought once they heard the hollow head ring like a bell. The foam does nothing but mute the sound. With that said. They should put mute foam inside the drivers. Lol

[@JT2645]

Sweet irons. Will you be testing the P730?

[@tonydicicco8557]

Could you please reply what shaft you tested these with? TY

[@jh18ful]

Didn't you insta a 2 iron of this range? Would love to see you review/compare that to your Callaway one.

[@ImDgod]

So im kind of in a rut right now. Im currently a 6/7 handicap and have 2016 m2 irons and want something that's a little bit more towards a players iron than a "game improving" any recommendations?

[@whataplonker82]

TwoDopeWhales I use Nike vr tw irons forged and I'm same 6-7 handicap they have improved my game

[@tomhaferl6737]

Rick what do you think about the sound these irons make?

[@jahorta70]

Rick, I bought a set but I notice that some irons say tungsten but others dont...any insight?

[@scottp6761]

What's the best iron you have ever hit from 2017-18 category then? I'm a 2 handicap and good player. I'm picking up a 3 iron p790 with X100 in it this upcoming week and thinking of buying whole set.

[@tomryder7623]

I have enjoyed your reviews. Been using `ping I 3's for 15 years..with some added weight. Looking for a new set...thinking about pgx 311s, mizuno jpx forged or taylormade 790s maybe ping g400's. Im an 8 handicap. I think i like the pxgs better...crazy price. Any thoughts or other clubs I should try. In the new irons I am testing with prject x LZ 5.5 shaft.

[@geordietoonforlife.1155]

Tom Ryder Tom, try the PXG XF model absolutely fantastic clubs I play off 6 and my god these clubs do perform very well but it’s the feel of them that you’ll love, yes expensive but worth every penny you won’t regret it if golf is your passion. Enjoy PXG XF

[@adamlichman1181]

P790 vs i500? Sounds like an interesting video

[@kennethtarrant8696]

I'm curious to see how the foam reacts in the elements. Cold vs hot weather.

[@danthemanwhocancan]

kenneth tarrant good question!

[@el_duderino_man]

I think it does nothing but mute that hollow head to be honest. They should put mute foam inside the drivers.

[@mitchelllemire4184]

Would this be a good club to move on to from the old R11’s?? Looking to make an upgrade after 8 some odd years.

[@hyeongyeolkim9517]

i have same question like you

[@swamplife3119]

You kinda talk the P770's down, but when you reviewed them you loved them. I have the P770's and I personally think they are "the" club TM released this year....

[@edwardvanleppard2774]

Rick what does it take for you to put a particular club in your bag? For example, after hitting these, would you consider replacing your current irons?

[@zacharymacneil9029]

hey rick it would be great to see a mid handicapper review for the p790

[@BOATRIGHTGOLF]

Irons like this and pxg make me wonder about the gel or plastic inserted into them right? I'm thinking after X amount of hits you could have inner deformation, weaking, and less elasticity creating a muted golf club that you spend 1k+ on.

[@georgesmith4639]

Tried them and they felt great but the heads seemed heavy and the website shows a swing weight of D2 for the long/mid irons. D0 is all I can tolerate with my weak hands.

[@tonydicicco8557]

what shaft and flex were these sampled with?

[@calvin8950]

Tony DiCicco With Rick's swing these shafts were probably the stiff shafts that come stock with the p790s.

[@nueardant]

20 yrd difference from 7 to 4 iron? But 50 yards difference between 7 to pitch?

[@robinc3307]

b Tommy Douglas ....me to ...if a pro can only get that performance then what does that give the rest of us...the gapping is a nightmare...or is the 4 just super hard to hit? Not for me and my only just single digit handicap

[@nueardant]

I love the tech ideas but gapping seems to get lost. Ping I bade seems to have better gapping with similar tech.

[@karncis]

the problem is, if u look in the website the difference from pw to 7 iron is like 15degrees roughly where as from 7 to 4 is only 9 degrees. that however, can be fixed by ur local pro or when ure ordering. i also think shielsy missed a lot of his shots with the four iron and should have hit them again

[@nueardant]

I like the tech ideas. Feel with insert and shape, extra weight. If the gapping improves it would be a consideration

[@hollywood1513]

Robin C use "pro" loosely.

[@kurtswartz7484]

Would love to see comparisons between P790 and Ping 700

[@kieranardaen-webb8527]

Can you say anything about the new taylormade improver iron that is coming out?

[@spocktra50]

Nice review Rick,cheers.

[@TheFenix800]

🤔Strong 7 iron?...why don't we call it what it is...a 6 freaking iron😅

[@taunokekkonen5733]

@Mike Eastridge it's relevant in the sense that you gain a bigger gap after the wedge. If your wedge goes 130yds then you need 3-4 wedges from there. For a club handicapper, it would be more beneficial to bring the lofts back to the original angles and make sure the 50-120yd lengths are covered well. No mid-handicapper will need an iron with 19 degrees of loft, they need a hybrid or driving iron.

[@joec.743]

I just need lessons!

[@j2martnz348]

Who cares what it's called!?