NEW Tesla Model 3 Performance vs 911: The Truth Nobody Wants to Admit

[@Gjeebs]

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[@CanditoTrainingHQ]

@@WFO. You think a Tesla is like an apple watch. Congrats. There is nothing to talk about. He owns a Tesla and obviously enjoys it so likely disagrees. Strange to beg for someone to reply like this lmao.

[@Thelongmanable]

*_I love model 3, and you get zero attention from cops when speeding lol!!!_*

[@RuTube981]

As someone who owns both a Porsche and a Tesla there are reasons to own both. If you’re just driving for a commute then there’s no better car than a Tesla. If you’re driving to enjoy the act of driving, then it’s Porsche. There is no substitute.

[@olafurthorarensen7918]

Extremely good and valid point!

[@ClickToPreview]

I traded in my 986 for a Tesla Model 3 LR and I haven't missed driving the Porsche at all, mainly because the Tesla is MUCH faster and rides like a dream. Porsche really needs to increase the amount of horsepower in their vehicles, because paying $120,000 for a sports car that doesn't even have 400 horses is criminal in my opinion. Of course IF I had a Porsche with 400+ horses I WOULD choose to drive it over the Tesla, but I don't so I can't :)

[@Mc88Flyy]

Very well said!

[@vivamia]

Totally agree. Seems to be a lot of “ hate” between the owners of each brand. Two totally different type of cars. The Taycan would have been a more logical comparison since it is an EV. Some people appreciate the act of driving and some see it as a chore.

[@diamondlifestyle0320]

same. got a M3P and a 911 and the 911 is the better car but the M3P is so easy in A to B driving on short(ish) trips and incredible cheap and easy to maintain.

[@adam964]

After daily'ing my Tesla, any automatic transmission ICE car feels antiquated. I really think you need a manual transmission 911 to set them apart and to give a unique special experience of their own.

[@CT2S3XY]

100%!!!

[@monkeysezbegood]

What is really shows is that the Tesla is an amazing product for the cost... stunning.

[@py0413]

I’ve owned 20 internal combustion engine vehicles, most of them on the high performance side, 3 911s, 4 bmw M cars, AMG GTR, Audi RS, and so on. Since then, My #21, #22, #23, are all Tesla (MYP, S LR, X plaid) while #24 Cybertruck is awaiting, plus #25 Rivian R2 of which who knows when it can really show up. Will I ever buy another ICE vehicle, definitely, however, It’ll have to be some extremely special and playful. For now, I am 100% satisfied with my fleet of Tesla.

[@larryc1616]

4680 Roadster = GAME OVER ⚡️🇺🇲

[@shepherdsknoll]

I’ve been driving a long time and owned a lot of cars including four Porsches, I just bought a new 2025 M3P with the tax credit for $45k. The refinement of the Tesla is just incredible , there is not much you could not embarrass with this car , it is so efficient and smooth, I just couldn’t imagine spending $120k + for that Porsche when you can get so much more car for $75k less.

[@GammaPanda]

Very apples to oranges comparison.

[@eliotclarke1129]

Looking forward to the new model y but the cybertruck is a shambles, too big, poor range, poor construction, poor safety, poor off-road, storage not great

[@PiefacePete46]

@@GammaPanda : Is it though? I have never owned a Porsche, or a Tesla... I doubt that I ever will. That said, comparing two very different approaches to vehicles that offer performance from totally different approaches makes for a thought provoking video. The purist will always get immense pleasure from the Porsche, but these days he/she will need to be prepared for having their nose rubbed in the dirt occasionally! Apples and Oranges... Yes, definitely, but still interesting.

[@PA30Crewchief]

I've owned several generations of 911. '78 911 SC with mild performance mods was my favorite, 997.1 Turbo Manual was the most powerful. Between those extremes was a 993, 996, 997.2 4S, 997.2 S and a 991.1 S. I have not driven the 992. Somewhere along the line the speeding tickets and speeding cameras (this was in the UAE) got onerous and now that I am back in the US its a Tesla M3 LR that is in the garage. And it is as fast as the 997 Turbo I used to own! The only Porsche I truly miss is the '78 911 SC.

[@ClickToPreview]

Yeah, I love the 911 body styles from 1974 all the way to 1988 and would love to get my hands on something between 1984 and 1987 specifically. I had a 1977 911S for a bit and aside from the problems it had for being such an old car, I loved it dearly. I have a little red Porsche 911 Hot Wheels car on the dash of my 2022 Tesla Model 3 Long Range as we speak because I just love looking at these classic 911's and you just don't see them every day.

[@BrianS-ny9yd]

You chose the M3LR over the Performance?

[@FactsDontCareAboutFeelings-m6x]

@@BrianS-ny9yd👈😂 so what? Why do you have a problem with that?

[@ShaunRF]

I must be getting old, because I cannot believe the base price for the cheapest 911 STARTS at $120k!

[@ratshackmojo]

with no manual option to boot. Used to be affordable cars for doctors, but now relegated to pro sports,plastic surgeons, and ceo's.

[@CanditoTrainingHQ]

Well that's what happens when people vote for an inflation reduction act that just increases green policies and gov spending. Nothing in this world is free.

[@JosephLee-x8r]

You can get the Carrera T model in manual only now.

[@ratshackmojo]

@@JosephLee-x8r Which isn't a base model as it's $14,000 dearer, they also even took away interior color choices away on the Carrera T vs the base model.

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

It's almost like a brand new porsche isn't easily accessible to an average joe like a tesla is. Wow who woulda thought that porsche isn't for average joes.. 😂😂 where do u people even come from.

[@Jigsaw_knows]

I have both. I do enjoy the way the regen brakes parachute me down in speed. I'd rather feel the ride not listen to it

[@slimsloth243]

Definitely. The re-gen is underrated. You can accelerate into highway traffic like a bat out of hell and just relax your foot a bit and you are at the speed limit. One of the most fun parts of the car.

[@DD-xx8wh]

two different enthusiast's vehicles...both awesome and be glad they even exist...easy decision though, buy one of each!

[@torontocannuck]

Two enthusiasts vehicles -one is battery pack on wheels 😂

[@fergmorriss1651]

A big reason for Tesla depreciation, is continuous reduction in new vehicle pricing. Nobody but Tesla lowers prices. So, thinking this way ...their brand new cars are "depreciating". And will continue as efficiencies of scale and engineering grow.

[@ClickToPreview]

I think it's still more about American consumer reticence to adopt an EV over ICE and that is depressing used EV prices all around. I picked up a near pristine 2022 Tesla Model 3 Long Range this year (2024) for only $20k (the car was over $62k brand new just two years prior). It seems that ALL used EVs are a LOT less expensive than any similar ICE counterpart.

[@lemongavine]

Tesla depreciation is because of the $7500 tax credit. The original buyer does not take a depreciation hit because of this.

[@BaBaYaga1999-p7u]

Good point.

[@dontgetsalt2045]

No dude that does not make up for it. I bought a 2023 model y performance new. At 11 months and 11k miles it lost 25k in value that’s over half. That’s even on a trade in where they are incentivized to give you larger number so they can make a sale.

[@audunskilbrei8279]

@@dontgetsalt2045why are people letting them go for that though? Are they unable to afford keeping them or do they really hate them? If I bought a car new with such depreciation I would keep it until the hit was not that big anymore.

[@dontgetsalt2045]

@@audunskilbrei8279 well I’m used to having fast cars and I like driving fast in the tolls so the range is not great if you like driving fast. But ya there’s no way I would dump it for -25k with that mileage. People are probably dumping because of charger access issues, driving dynamics, and most likely the CEO’s political views

[@RealElectech]

@dontgetsalt2045 that's not how trade in pricing works lol they give you a low number so they can turn around and resell it for thousands in profit...

[@RayNLA]

I have two Teslas, but I watch Porsche 911 videos every day. If you look closely at a Tesla you can see the Porsche influence!

[@andrerodriguez7603]

I owned both. The Porsche was way more expensive to maintain. I had more fun with the Tesla Model 3 hands down.

[@deanprater12]

@@andrerodriguez7603everyone I know that has owned says the same thing.

[@HeathRS]

@@andrerodriguez7603 Anything German is there. My GTI was expensive to maintain too. A Model Y Performance took its place.

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

​@@andrerodriguez7603 ur just broke. Every young rich streamers like kai cenat,adin Ross, fanum, jack paul, stable ronaldo, clix, etc.. all buy that new porsche, lambo, etc.. never a tesla. Then u got Matt and yianni from carwow, throttlehouse, manny koshbin, Andrew tate, smokingtire,savagegeese, etc etc... every major car channel influencer drives some kind of GAS car still. When they all could easily buy any tesla they wanted and have driven them all. MKHBD a complete tech nerd that only got into cars becuase of tesla even TRADED his plaid for a porsche turbo s. Point is that yes it does get boring. Speeding in an EV is like having sex with earplugs in. Real sports cars hit all ur senses. Way more visceral and fun not to mention teslas robotic trash steering.

[@torontocannuck]

😂😂

[@renscience]

I had a 2015 911s and now have a Tesla plaid S. While the porsche is a more refined car and will handle a track or a curvy road better the Tesla is considerably more powerful and you can actually cary something in it. Besides, unless you’re a track person, how often do you do anything in America that allows you to drive curves aggressively. Our roads are clogged and the Tesla is perfect for the US. As far as daily driver goes, the Tesla beats it hands down.

[@davidsean290]

Most people buying a 911 will NOT consider a Tesla model 3. They are 2 different cars for different reasons. Plus just because you have the $ for a 911 does NOT mean the dealer will allocate you one.

[@Arpedk]

So true. Model 3 Performance is a beast!

[@jasonlop10]

Apples to oranges test. Model 3 is the obvious budget friendly choice. There now you don’t have to watch his video

[@GB-75]

We have a Model Y performance and a 992 911 C4S. There is no comparison. It’s like comparing McDonald with a high end restaurant.

[@Marc-wv1pr]

The redesigned 3 is LEAGUES above the previous 3/Y in terms of build quality, interior quality, chassis dynamics, etc. 911 is still more "luxurious", but the new 3 forces the driver to reconsider and the gap shrinks.

[@omichaelnato5388]

⁠​⁠@@Marc-wv1pr😅 my man there is nothing to reconsider and there is no shrinking gap. You buy a Tesla to commute to work. You buy a Porsche to enjoy on your free time. And can also commute if you’re balling.

[@G82Watts]

​@@Marc-wv1prit's hilarious how u guys admit now that the previous tesla was complete trash after telling everyone when it was out that it's actually not bad at all. U guys don't seem to understand that massive leap that even new teslas dont have in quality compared to actual high end luxury brands.

[@TheTinminator]

So are you saying that a Tesla is like cheap McDonald??

[@larryc1616]

Which is which?

[@cognitivescience9924]

I’ve driven Audis, BMW’s, Porsches, etc. My 2025 model 3 RWD LR is my favorite car to drive, period. It’s a matter of taste.

[@YumboYack2521]

The 992.2 base has the GTS turbos from the 992.1, and intercooler from the 992.1 Turbo. It’s a tune away from making 500 to 600hp very cheaply which is what most base owners will do anyways.

[@User.Joshua]

I am striving to have the 911 GTS as my road trip vehicle to visit family while enjoying the drive. As for a daily, the Macan EV is on my radar.

[@larryc1616]

88k X Plaid baby! ⚡️🇺🇲

[@chefmarck]

Thanks for all you do Gjeebs! Happy Thanksgiving!

[@Gjeebs]

thanks for watching and you too!

[@andrerodriguez7603]

Tesla Model 3! Hands down. 🎉

[@s.c.1972]

You clearly have never driven a 911

[@timefly4221]

Depends on what you want out of a car. If you want a very fast, reasonably practical, and sporty-feeling street car the Model 3 is great. But cars like the 911 are engineered for all around performance and driving feel. The tires, suspension, brakes, transmission, engine, and cooling systems are designed to work in harmony to fit a certain performance envelope and be able to maintain it over a longer drive. Do a couple of laps in a Model 3 Performance and the brakes are likely to catch fire.

[@TurboDub1991]

I like seeing someone in a Porsche, you know they worked hard to enjoy the car!

[@devengudinas1649]

Exactly

[@freddydad1]

You never heard of inheritance ? I've worked hard for my money, would I spend it on a porsche, not a chance, I value it too much.

[@qikqbn77]

Exactly. Owning a Porsche is a dream or a feeling of achievement come true... Tesla is just a car you lease to commute to work.

[@larryc1616]

Just posers

[@qikqbn77]

@@larryc1616 Posers can and may exist in most luxury car brands from BMW, Bugatti's, to Lamborghini and Ferrari, most high value cars are leased by their "renters". In some cases there are advantages to leasing, but with that said and knowing there are posers in every car brand, Porsche Owners Club and Porsche Club of America are filled with real car enthusiasts who are loyal to the Porsche Brand and love to race their cars, work on them personally, keep them for decades, and really love car culture in general. It's hard to tell who the real enthusiast are just by seeing someone drive down the street in a Porsche. Working really hard to be able to own a Porsche car is something to be admired, but not everyone who drives a Porsche is a cool guy. That can be said for any car brand too.

[@abramians1]

Great review! Thank you!

[@Gjeebs]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@BastarD]

It's like comparing rolex to an apple watch. There are 200k + luxury cars that are slower than golf R, but does that make golf R a better car? Maybe it's better for throwing it down on a B road but thats about it. It's not all about straight line 0-100 km/h acceleration. If I wanted a 911 I'd buy it and I understand people why they do.

[@darinbrazil5496]

You buy a 911 for handling not for straight line performance. Its silly to compare these two vehicles

[@joshb.1118]

Test drive the new M3 performance first.... It's lacks the noise and gear shifts, but does not come up short on the handling.

[@darinbrazil5496]

@@joshb.1118lol nice try

[@larryc1616]

4800lbs S Plaid Laguna Seca 1:30 faster than turbo s, gt3, nismo gtr...⚡️🇺🇲 4680 Roadster = GAME OVER

[@leonardschluter7037]

@@joshb.1118 it doesn’t even come close to the 911 in terms of handling, driven both. The tesla is quick in a straight line, but through the bends it’s just inferior in every way

[@joshb.1118]

​@@leonardschluter7037 I'm not saying it's better but it's way closer than people imagine. I bet you drove the old M3P, not the new one. They are also miles apart. To me, Porsche's are overhyped right now. They are Rolex's - a flex and not that much better at key functions and also lacking a lot of functionality that you get in, say, an apple watch. I'm lucky enough to able to afford both. But to me, I'd rather take an M3P + a manual GR86 + $100k in my bank account.

[@nunnaurbidness3209]

Owning both is the answer - except my 911 is a Cabriolet. Drive the golf cart to the grocery store & office, drive the 911 when you want to actually enjoy driving.

[@jamesmcgovern5563]

The new model 3 performance is so good. The fit and finish have been greatly improved over the first gen. I have the first gen and want one of these. Definitely the best daily driver available.

[@G82Watts]

Still no where NEAR the standard of a porsche

[@omichaelnato5388]

One you’ll see at cars and coffee and car shows, and will have any car guy breaking his neck to turn and see on the road. The other is for the commuter going to work.

[@sandroschtolpe6803]

​@@WFO.Why would you, its a commuter car you see at every corner. Thats not what meets are for.

[@g600f700]

The reasons are simple, emotional vs practical. If you want to save money, get a corolla and it does the job.

[@WFO.]

@@g600f700 🏆

[@waterskinetherlands2310]

Tesla's decpreciate more but once you also take in account the maintenance it is a lot cheaper. I had several Tesla's and the last 2019 M3P depreciated from 70k to 25k in 5 years (Euro's), but saved me 25K in cost compared to a Lexus I used to own a while back (Porsche maintenance will be higher, I owned a few as well). The only maintenance I had on the M3P was 6 tires. Now I have the 2024 M3P and indeed a brilliant car.

[@joshb.1118]

Tesla's depreciate less than Panamera's, Boxers, Cayennes, and Macan's.

[@rc51bigdaddy]

I have a 2022 Model Y Performance and a 2017 991.2 C2s with all the handling goodies. Around town the Model Y is just perfect. Out on mountain roads the 911 is amazing and very very fast. The Model 3 Performance you tested probably handles way better than my Y. My Y has a low center of gravity but the suspension gets overwhelmed by the car's weight when pushing around bumpy corners. Not a good feeling. In contrast the 911 feels nimble and precise and very very stable and confidence inspiring. The Y is so fun off the line with electric instant torque. You have to work more with the 911 off the line and frankly the 911 is more about the handling for me. Perhaps you noticed heavier steering with the 911 due to the wider tires? Anyway, both are great vehicles-glad I have both. We drive the Model Y 99% of the time and save the 911 for those fun backroad drives with Waze running and a radar detector on:) Also the 911 is great for two person road trips as gas powered cars are still more convenient. When and if the new Tesla Roadster comes out that might be a 911 killer, but I plan to keep my 911 for a long long time. So fun. I will happily part with my Y for something electric and improved. The 911 is timeless. The Y is not. I will add that I come from a Sport Bike background and did a lot of track days, so the 911 is a substitute now that I am a senior citizen. Better to have 4 wheels on the ground and more safety!

[@jamespaul1835]

I have a base 992.2 for 6 weeks and it’s a precision instrument. You hear the engine , you feel the engine, the steering and brakes are telepathic. It’s refined. I have 19/20” wheels. My wife has the 2024 model 3 performance and it is shockingly good. A better daily, and incredible sound system. Steering is surprisingly good for a Tesla. It’s too fast (makes you dizzy) almost wish we got the long range but it didn’t come with the cool seats. Tesla model 3 is the best daily driver ever. I might replace stock 20” wheels for 18” for better ride and range. My wife doesn’t push the car enough for the sticky tires. Just took it to work in the rain and awd traction is impressive. Drove from SF to Tahoe and handling is 85% of the Porsche but the passing is like your in a blue angels fa/18. Insurance and registration is a nightmare here in California for these two cars.

[@joshb.1118]

Appreciate the perspective from someone that drives both (versus pundits who have driven only one or neither). For the Tesla get the Tesla Insurance. It's usually way cheaper.

[@saml4537]

Go for the Ioniq 5 N.

[@CaliSteve169]

Abysmal range. Slower than M3P. Ridiculous price. No wonder I've yet to see one on the road.

[@saml4537]

@CaliSteve169 At least it doesn't look like a fat dude wearing a sperm costume.

[@sandroschtolpe6803]

​@@saml4537😂

[@jjohur]

The Model 3 performance is an incredible machine for the price. I would pick it every time.

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

We recently bought a dual motor model 3 for my wife, I have to say it’s really very good and makes my 997C2S feel so much less special which surprises me. On a winding country A road here in the UK, the Tesla is huge fun… again surprising

[@hvu6037]

The 911's frunk is its only cargo storage area whereas with the 3, there's the trunk in addition to the frunk. As for depreciation, I suspect the Performance variance from 2025 on won't depreciate as bad. To be fair, all EVs in recent years suffer large depreciation: all Tacans, all Lucids, Audi's and the likes see huge loss in values.

[@valuemastery]

Once people get over the fact that an electric sports car does not have engine and exhaust sound, they really have to admit that the electric vehicle is simply the better car, there's no way around it.

[@borinvlogs]

I have M3P, 718 CS mapped to 450hp, 987 3.4BS. My favourite to drive most of the time is M3P, the way it delivers power is quite brutal and i feel more confident to drive fast in this car on our wet UK road than my Porsche which don't give me the confidence with RWD and engine behind the seats.

[@PiefacePete46]

When the Model 3 was first released, even my aging eyes could spot the paint defects and naff panel gaps. The gap at the front edge of the hood always stuck out like a sore thumb! The passage of time has made this a thing of the past... combine the better finish with the subtle design changes, and the reasons for shopping elsewhere are reducing all the time.

[@Sknbgf]

Every time I subscribe, I don't go to school for a day, and I upload the video to the channel every day

[@mylesjoseph]

I love my M3P 2024-it’s a perfect blend of tech and performance. But my next car? A Porsche 911. I’m hoping to have both eventually because the Tesla is cutting-edge, but the swagger of a Porsche is something else entirely. It’s interesting-at 26, I see a lot of guys my age with Teslas, but you rarely see someone my age behind the wheel of a Porsche. It’s a different game. A Tesla turns heads; a Porsche turns the conversation.

[@sandroschtolpe6803]

Teslas turn heads? They are at every corner, everywhere.

[@seojimjames]

porsche cost of ownership is ridiculous. tesla performance is fantastic.

[@timking2822]

I replaced my performance car and daily driver with a Tesla M3P. I'll never go back to an ICE. The Tesla is a daily driver, performance car, economy car, and (for me) a luxury car. No more gas station visits, oil changes, brake replacements, etc. etc. It may not be for everyone, but for me it's the best. And, I don't miss the shifting with the instant torque. The handling is on par with other performance cars. The weight is only ~100-150lbs more than a comparable ICE performance car like BMW/Audi.

[@Tothefloor]

Dude your crazy! Just LOOK at the two cars side by side. If you don't have the money it's Tesla. If you have the money its Porsche every single day! Live life and be excited every single time it roars to life! You live once and then it's over. Porsche..... period.

[@chrisalexandersb1748]

Or, you buy the Tesla like I did and have enough left to also have a Superduke. The Porsche is fun, but it does however not do third gear Power wheelies😁 for me its the best of both worlds. 140000km in the 3 so far, and I still love it.

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Exactly. I'm so tired of these EV channels comparing their cars to stuff they cant afford and trying to justify it.

[@wharfbanger]

Elephants in the room missed as usual…the unpretentious M3 ain’t cooking future generations alive, drivetrain has only 2 moving parts so no ridiculous ICE maintenance issues, and all the weight is in the floor so they handle good. Why the hell would you buy an ICE? If it has an exhaust it’s a slug

[@Tothefloor]

@@wharfbanger I completely disagree with you. I love both my Plaid and my ICE sports cars. Electric for daily and ICE for fun. I can't stand people who hate hate hate. Love it all my dude.

[@wharfbanger]

@ ​​⁠ICE are steam locomotives. They were hot stuff in the 20th century, but now they are just filthy, noisy slow relic’s. Good for a weekend car or classic racing. No need for any new ones.

[@ryanmccrudden7359]

no offense, but the m3p needs to go up against a 911 turbo s not this base lol

[@Marc-wv1pr]

Wait... so you're saying a $250k Porsche needs to be brought in for a "proper" comparison against this $55k Tesla??

[@larryc1616]

88k S Plaid baby! ⚡️🇺🇲

[@G82Watts]

Model 3 performance can't even compete with a bmw let alone a porsche. Tf are u even saying.

[@xm3ntal620]

Need both. M3P as a daily and a manual 911 for the weekends.

[@Gjeebs]

true

[@larryc1616]

Wifey for daily and mistress for the weekends.

[@ProcyonZED]

Comparing an Electric to a ICE, I mean go to the Taycan is a more apples to apples.

[@larryc1616]

Taycan't 😂

[@beksinski]

Teslas are crazy fast but they don't corner like sports cars. It really just depends on what your needs are.

[@joshb.1118]

Have you driven the new M3P?

[@jax1fdr]

You put the golf clubs in the back seat easy peezy 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@sachamo100]

I have a 986 Boxster, many of my friends have Tesla’s, I haven’t had one moment that I wanted to trade!🎉

[@mocheen4837]

I would rather have both. Nobody said you had to choose one over the other. This seems to be a prevailing opinion that one must pick either ICE or EV. I happen to like both for different reasons. Even my dad has a 1969 Camaro SS and daily drives an EV.

[@dwylhq874]

The spec comparison makes it abundantly clear the Tesla M3P is a no-brainier!

[@AZdroptop]

Nice video as usual. I had an 02 911 C4 and the Model 3 out performs it quite easily in a straight line. In the turns I'm not convinced yet. When I owned the 911 I could not wait to take it on evening drives up Mount Lemmon to just enjoy it, the sounds, the connection to the car etc. I don't find myself doing that in my Model 3 performance. As an overall car the Model 3 is the winner, but I will never have the desire to drive it like I did the 911.

[@Gjeebs]

Yea you are spot on with that. I felt the same way about my M2.

[@MichaelWilliams-rf3jr]

This is like Apple watch vs Rolex.

[@qikqbn77]

Owning a Porsche is a dream or a feeling of achievement come true. You have arrived in a Porsche. You don't dream about owning a tesla, Tesla is just a car you lease to commute to work.

[@TobyConrad]

A Tesla and a supersport bike for me. Nothing comes close to a bike on a mountain road

[@parsifal102]

Great video! Emphasis on the crucials and do not spend minutes on mindless intros. Love your way of presenting. I considered the M3 performance in August, but with the speed tickets I received with my previous M3 LR (in Norway radar detectors are disallowed), I know the temptations of the Performance would lead me to destitute.

[@07BSPtC]

A man after my own taste. Went from an Audi rs3 to model 3 performance which I’ll probably keep looking at adding a 997 gt3 for fun.

[@theclifbar]

They both have their place, though I agree the base model 911 is pretty outmatched by the Tesla. 911 Turbo is a better match, but it then costs $199,000 (4x the Model 3 Performance price) and weighs 3700 lbs, making it feel even heavier. Maybe a used Corvette or Cayman S with a 6MT is a better way to scratch the ICE itch. Having spent some time on the Autobahn, I can see why the 911 (and Taycan's) steering is so slow and ponderous. It's the price paid for stability at 260 km/h. But it's a heavy price, and irrelevant to pretty much every other auto market. It really makes the car feel bigger and less nimble. I really like your point of letting ICE cars still exist in the future, including the V12 and V16 monsters. If the goal is to reduce emissions, these ICE classics emit far less than 0.1% of total emissions. They probably will, just like people still ride horses for fun even though cars are "better" in nearly every way.

[@Jigsaw_knows]

Let's get the hoodie and t.!!

[@ms3ben]

Optimal enthusiast garage imo: Performance EV for daily commuting Performance gas car for the weekends

[@HawkBoss]

I would love to see used Taycan vs Model 3 performance 😊

[@Gjeebs]

It's coming...

[@982SharkBlue]

The Taycan already blew the Tesla out of the water. Thankfully the EVs aren't doing well with Porsche and we can get back to business and hopefully enter F1

[@MondernMan]

@@982SharkBlue Huh? In order to match the model 3 performance you've got to get the GTS which starts at $147k and go from there. The biggest problem with the Germans is the amount you need to pay - every feature is paid option - just to be competitive with the model 3 performance which is essentially a supped up family car.

[@schwinn04]

The 911 outperforms the Tesla by miles in the depriciation category, in 2 years the M3 will be worth 50% and the 911 will be 90-95% adjusted for inflation

[@joshb.1118]

Yeah. But the right comparison there is the Tesla roadster v a 911. All of the Porsche "mass" market cars - Booster, Cayenne, Panamera, Macan - depreciate incredibly fast.

[@erdemmenges3072]

Buy the Tesla, you’ll sell it for $10K in two years 😂😂

[@xheir]

Not true.

[@ericnichols8995]

I want one. Why does Tesla's website trip/charging planner place more charging stops on a Model S long range than a Model 3 Long Range? (The "S" has more range right?)

[@Gjeebs]

that trip planner isn’t very accurate but gives you a general idea

[@eduvanv]

Finally someone blurred the speedometer correctly.

[@G82Watts]

No offense but only tesla and EV fans like urself watch these videos for the most part. I take everything with a grain of salt when a clear bias is in play. Now if throttle house , carwow,etc.. made this comparison id listen.

[@joshb.1118]

Or better yet drive both yourself. Too many folks with strong opinions that have driven none or only one of the vehicles.

[@sandroschtolpe6803]

Depends, the big channels also cant criticize Teslas, since Tesla then doesnt give them presscars, which means less views. So basically, you have to take everything with a grain of salt nowadays. Obviously this video was a pure Teslacommercial.

[@wydryfly]

I Have way more fun and enjoyment in my 23’ MS than my recently sold Panamera 4S ST. Not kidding!

[@bentong8]

One thing I like about Teslas is they depreciate like crazy. I can buy used ones for cheap. Big thanks to the first owners!

[@Vilmir]

I read that a lot, while in France, Model 3s are some of the slowest depreciating cars on the first 3 years. A Performance loses a bit less than 32% of catalog price in 3 years while most cars have lost more than 40%. Why such an extreme difference with the US market?

[@lemongavine]

They depreciate a lot because of $7500 tax credit. So the buyer is not losing out on the depreciation

[@ericgregori]

Only in the US due to the $7500 tax credit.

[@caseywarren7426]

@@Vilmir because people in the US are to dumb to know electric vehicles are a good investment.

[@markcook9084]

I, they depreciate because they are built like a paper airplane. But it’s super fast, so there’s that.

[@GuillaumeR-n6e]

How dare you compare with the myth.? Such as the rag and the towel.

[@AKTechIT]

Has someone who has owned a model y performance for over 4 years and has 140,000 Mi on it, I will say that straight line speed is overrated and I do miss rowing my own Gears or even having an exhaust note.

[@PiefacePete46]

It seems to me that the Tesla ticks so many boxes that it would be a great choice for ninety percent of most peoples motoring, you do not want noise all the time... For the other ten percent, when the sounds are essential, and you get all misty-eyed doing things you wouldn't confess, you have (depending on your bank balance), a Ferrari, Caterham Super 7, Ariel Atom or Nomad, BAC Mono, Ducati Monster... Whatever your fantasy desires... you get the picture!

[@LawrenceMarkFearon]

Two completely different purposes. One's the economic commuter. One's the driver's sports car. Few people cross shop them against each other and it shows in the depreciation.

[@ryanpetree6475]

I would argue anyone spending $120k on a base Porche doesnt know anything about cars either. Do you know how many badass hot rod/track toys you could get under $120k?!

[@glenng.6041]

i now want a a Tesla MODEL 3 P just for its awesomeness. God I need to make more money. 2.8 to 60 for 50k is insane.

[@PC-xj2mw]

Hate that new all digital dash in 2025 911s. Glad I got mine in 2023 with analog tach..

[@hectorarcelus6602]

Am I making problems for my powerwall 3 for taking down to 10%?

[@farukzeqiri]

I just clicked this video to tell you guys that no matter the outcome, a Porsche 911 can't be compared with any other car. The design and the feeling of driving are in a league of their own.

[@nceevh]

My issue with the engine sound debate is that everyone is forced to listen to it. Sure, you might enjoy that sound, but not everyone does.

[@jolive3743]

hear hear....plus porsche engines always sound like someone left a spanner in there

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

The view of the headlight humps on the bonnet is better on my wife’s Tesla than my 911 😂😱😱😱

[@joshb.1118]

@Gjeebs. I recommend adding a poll to see how many commenters have driven a new M3P, a Porsche 911, both, or none of the vehicles.

[@1xty773]

I have a 718 Spyder (not a 911) and a Model YP. The Porsche is about the feeling, the sound and top down experience. The Tesla is by far better transportation. All other cars feel stupid compared to the Tesla. Go karts and motorcycles are super fun also but they have their place. It’s a question of traveling or driving.

[@MrBulix]

Is model3 P "adaptive suspension" in comfort mode more soft as in long range model 3?

[@Gjeebs]

I think it feels softer and I just put 18” wheels on my model 3 so it feels incredible

[@edjohn4590]

They not even comparable 😂😂 it’s not just about speed

[@Acquit808]

Is there anyone why would actually choose the Model 3 over a 992 if given the choice?

[@Gjeebs]

I'll run a poll on KZbin and see what people say.

[@G82Watts]

​@@Gjeebsdude ur poll would be clearly biased. Get real dude. If throttle house or carwow did a poll we all know the 992 carerra would have over 90% of the votes

[@하아낙]

I bought a brand new M3P I love this car but I will take 911 over this any day... This is just not a matching comparison maybe a base Taycan. Tesla is cheap to maintain and still fun to drive crazy fast straight line and comfortable daily driving with autopilot.

[@monsieurlaverite1412]

both have adaptive suspension systems from bilstein

[@daltonvanhorn5167]

just add the sounds to the tesla

[@ericgregori]

Tesla all day! The next-gen Model S is going to be INSANE!

[@RayNLA]

There won’t be a next gen S. Both S and X will be discontinued before long. They are both low volume at this point.

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@RayNLA Model S still outselling Lucid Air and Porsche Taycan combined. Not bad for a basically 12 year old design.

[@stkuj]

Wow, you can have two M3P's plus oil changes don't cost $500 every 4 months 😂

[@joshb.1118]

Or a MP3 + a Miata or BRZ or another weekend car + lots of $ on hand.

[@sterlingarcher1962]

So you can purchase 2 performance Model 3s for less than one base model 911? And the Tesla is faster, has storage space, 2 extra seats and requires basically no maintenance?? I'm lost on how these are even comparable. I'm even tempted to ask why you didn't just compare with the like priced Model S Plaid.

[@Japplesnap]

No contest. Porsche all the way every day.

[@EspenJohan]

Comparing a Porsche to a Tesla is probably a bit strange. Porsche is significantly better than Tesla. Would have chosen any Porsche over Tesla. But fun to watch

[@xheir]

If the Porche just wasn't so expensive and slow.

[@PiefacePete46]

1:20... I don't know the answer, but is the "Frunk" on a 4wd Porsche 911 still as large as it is on the car shown here?

[@Essential_OS]

Rules and regulations let companies make TRUE low production internal combustion cars, but low production is less than 100 units, Porsche make 1000s of 911s every year, it's not considered low volume production, same with Lamborghini Huracan (Temerario now) and Revuelto. Just like the watch world, you can't really find good but cheap mechanical watches and people rather buy smartwatches.

[@audybryan2730]

Watch Hagerty video..with bmw m3 and model 3 pr..the bmw beat it.

[@joshb.1118]

In a couple categories. They concluded that an MP3 + a manual Toyota GR86 was a much better combo for the money.

[@niacal4nia]

You never see a 911 used for Uber. That's like comparing a Rolex to a Casino.

[@joshb.1118]

Yeah. No backseat room. But you so see 911s on Turo.

[@larryc1616]

No room

[@kimberlylamos8569]

What road are you on exactly? I want to take my Model 3 there looks so fun!

[@Gjeebs]

I recommend driving out to canyon lake past tortilla flats. Charge it up full and enjoy!

[@pegefounder]

02:23 Where is the screen?