Tesla Model 3 Performance vs BMW M3 Competition - Track Battle - Cammisa's Ultimate Comparison Test

[@afina_tm3]

The production quality and the two hosts are the reason why I watch this channel

[@pistonburner6448]

Well, no-one's watching it because Teslas are interesting. Plus, he's always wrong about so many things. In this video he makes the absolutely astoundingly absurd claim that Model 3 would be "the best car for everyday driving", when there are so many other cars which offer far lower noise levels, better comfort, and massive amounts more equipment plus customizability including the huge issue of different body styles. Tesla doesn't offer massage seats (I guess it now offers ventilated seats...in the Model 3 too?), adaptive headlights, night vision, adjustable suspension (AFAIK), station wagon option, physical buttons, enough stalks, good quality, any customizability. Does the Model 3 even offer ventilated seats, is that now available? Also no class & no fun. No proper customer service either. No non-electric door handles to open the car in case of a crash or fire. No concierge service in Europe (which is an actual human assistant one button away to be at your beck and call, which Mercedes and BMW both offer. My Merc offers even heated window sills and armrest (in addition to steering wheel), and airbags in the rear seatbelts. Competitors offer convertibles and station wagons...Tesla does not.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Dream team. They should be on the next grand tour

[@81MercTurbo]

@@pistonburner6448 Go drive a new one. As far as: adaptive headlights (software update coming to enable these in the matrix headlight cars), night vision (don't need it), adjustable suspension (standard in the Performance Model 3), station wagon option (very very few makers offer this), physical buttons (fair, but moot), enough stalks (fair), good quality (much better than before), any customizability (not sure what this means). Does the Model 3 even offer ventilated seats, is that now available (standard on all Model 3 models now).

[@eugenux]

the appreciation is good and well but, personally, I would like to see a critical discussion about the cars, using arguments. (indeed though, the video is one if the best(if not the best) from this year, at least)

[@TyreeKingHomeTours]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@eedoamitay3341]

lmao that throttle house scene with Randy having PTSD was amazing, damn that got me good

[@_que]

Wow, heavy but good reminder of the hill climb incident with Randy. Awesome editing amazing show, totally agree, multi car approach than one car does it all, as the compromise with just one car is crazy heft. Just add lightness one said...

[@randypobstofficial]

And it was real - I thought, is this car gonna cancel the brakes and send me through the desert, like the pre-Performance model did a few years ago? Well no, seemed to work great! I just ignored the over-sensitive brake heat warnings 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JhaveriAakash]

I'm new to this channel. What's the context?

[@szotakandrei]

​@@JhaveriAakash watch the throttle house review It's literally in there. Brakes gave up within the first lap

[@pinkyandbrain123]

@@randypobstofficialthanks for having your answer here. And thanks so much for yours and Jason’s work. Much love from the other side of the big pond.

[@deepakdongre7712]

Hagerty’s comparison videos aren't just about pumping out content for KZbin-they’re more like mini movies! Every comparison feels cinematic, crafted with passion and precision. Hats off to the incredible team behind the scenes!

[@Frostbbitten]

Love that they produced this in wide screen format. Gave it a very cinematic feel.

[@theorenhobart]

and with that they will continue to be watched for many years after. car vids are good but to me, these are trying to convey what it feels like to drive them. a real experience. keep them coming

[@kinikinrd]

interesting, more comments about the video than the cars.........

[@GraveUypo]

an lots of tesla bias. misha drove this tesla on the nurburgring and complained about the brakes, and it lost a bunch of power even with two yellow flags. he liked the car but he didn't lie about the faults like mr. t-shirt loves to do once monetary incentive is involved.

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Jason is a joke. U can tell he is friends with elon after getting the first cybertruck review. Explain to me how they both tie in the endurance test when the tesla has to cut power in order for it to do so and the bmw doesn't? How is that a tie? Also absolutely not a soul would say the tesla is better a drifting then the bmw 😂😂 ..Bmw also has red light camera assist. It shows up in ur HUD and tells u when the light is green. BMW has surviellance and crash recording cameras that work just like sentry mode in a tesla. Also everything u mentioned about the bmw while yall were in it .. U DIDNT EVEN HAVE APPLE CAR PLAY TURNED ON. It changes the entire layout and oh.. u can change the stereo and or see the maps in ur HEADS UP DISPLAY. Which tesla doesnt have. What did i just watch

[@TimJComposer]

Jason and Randy are such a joy to watch. Engaging, funny, informed, substantive... most trustworthy voices on Car KZbin.

[@DishantKothia]

Especially Jason

[@Cosmonaughty_]

I didn't expect the price difference to be that enormous, they really put it into perspective. The prices are wiiiiild, dude

[@BMWROYAL]

That g80 is fully option with an individual frozen paint, you can buy rwd one new for 75k, plus keep in mind one is a luxury car with a much better interior and more features, if your looking of the best bang for the buck, I don’t think either of them are the best option

[@robertide5182]

@@BMWROYAL M3 Competition xDrive starts at $30,000 more than the Model 3 Performance. Why would you compare to the RWD version? It won't perform as well. They also have different features and the new Model 3 is extremely nice inside.

[@G82Watts]

​@@robertide5182still no where near the level of a bmw dude. Lmao. U guys said the same thing for the old model 3 and justified everything. Now all the sudden the issues are widely said and the new one is so much better. If tesla had that bmw interior u guys would be glazing tf out of it.

[@walidoutaleb7121]

@@BMWROYAL how does the m3 have more feature than the model3? plus the interior quality are really not that far off.

[@BMWROYAL]

@@walidoutaleb7121 drift analyzer, having a heads up display, have two separate displays, hand gesture controls, adaptive headlights that turn in the direction you are going in. Surround view parking camera where it stitches the cameras to make it seem like your looking from out side the car, I’m pretty sure there are more, these are just off the top of my head

[@bimalnair5243]

I think after watching maybe thousands of car reviews... This is the best I've ever seen. On any channel!

[@iroh-bot4755]

@@bimalnair5243 it’s either this or the throttle house LFA video

[@RB-cr4nb]

Is there an Emmy award category for Car Reviews/KZbin videos? The editing, cinematography, script, sound design are just so insanely impressive. What a treat to watch something like this on youtube.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@RB-cr4nb chinese are the best

[@OFFROADandSTUFF]

@@jacksmith-mu3eewhat’s wrong with you? 😂

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@@OFFROADandSTUFF how is calling chinese best considered wrong ?

[@OFFROADandSTUFF]

@@jacksmith-mu3eenothing to do with China, I just found hilarious that people are complimenting the video quality and from nowhere you mention Chinese content that nobody is talking about 😅, but ok I’m open to learn, share the name of the Chinese content that is better than this please.

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

@OFFROADandSTUFF tesla batteries are from china. Tesla is made in china

[@alexanderhorner]

I love how professional, objective and unbiased this video was. Especially since all of your points are supported by lots of data and all tests were done with much care. Too often I see a review I disagree with and then it turns out they were on the wrong settings or done something wrong because they didnt care to inform themselves about the car they're reviewing. All the comments seem to agree as well, this is the best car content ive ever seen.

[@jermwerty]

Yeah they got the two most fanboy groups together in one video on this one, gonna be great ... grabs popcorn

[@EdwardKerplumplin]

I mean, they do get things wrong though... The buttons on the new M3 aren't capacitive, they are physical. They press down and click.

[@alexmosley2558]

Love the throttle house Crossover! hagerty and throttle house are easily the two bests and basically only car channels I continue to watch

[@ppjvn]

@9:03

[@redlion145]

I don't dislike them. But that's like limiting yourself to Fox and MSNBC - there are lots of other sources out there. For cars, I like The Smoking Tire, Out of Spec, The Straight Pipes, and the occasional Doug Demuro video as well. Even a bad opinion can offer a learning experience.

[@Qual3n]

@@redlion145 that's why teirs exist.

[@dre32pitt]

add Savage Geese to your lineup

[@censoredialogue]

Hagerty, Throttle House, and Savagegeese are truly the 3 best car review channels on the internet

[@ravocean]

What an absolute masterpiece of production these series are. Theres no way they're making more money from KZbin than what they spent on this video, but their reputation is growing exponentially. Thanks Hagerty!

[@randypobstofficial]

Thanks @Ravocean , the production and editing people do an amazing job!

[@04m6gto]

I'm not sure what their budget is vs how much they make from YT, but what these videos do is bring more traffic to the Hagerty channel. Most importantly for an insurance company, however, is that these videos bring in potential customers.

[@rlinkandroidauto-xe9sg]

Obviously they make more money than they spent lol. Or at least, I really hope for them, otherwise the channel isn’t sustainable and will die soon. So, I will assume that they make more than they spent.

[@04m6gto]

@rlinkandroidauto-xe9sg Not necessarily. If they take a small loss on the YT channel but receive bigger gains for their insurance company, then it's a win. However, for my own selfishness, I hope they're profiting so I can continue to enjoy the content.

[@deanchur]

@@04m6gto The KZbin channel will be part of the Marketing budget, in which case they're getting way better targeting and engagement time than other forms of advertising

[@or9118]

Once again, Hagerty made another cinematic masterpiece

[@randypobstofficial]

Really domes look great, doesn’t it? So happy to be a small part of this show

[@Hagerty]

Wouldn't be the same without you Randy!

[@rahulraman2226]

@@randypobstofficialsmall part?? Don’t sell yourselves short Randy. You are awesome. That throttle house scene is bloody hilarious.

[@JendaHrbac]

@@randypobstofficial pffft, small part. 🤣 What a legend.

[@Zaba...]

@@Hagerty You need to get Randy on the Carmungen show already!

[@carlosibanezf]

Just another level of automotive journalism. Jason and Randy have become a power duo; the production quality is second to none and the actual automotive journalism and consumer-based conclusions are sound and down to earth in an era of delusional madness. Awesome job, Jason!!

[@theheadone]

The throttle house cameo was awesome! haha

[@mediocreman2]

That's not a cameo. A cameos when someone famous actually appears in the film. In this case, the youtube video they recorded was being played in the background. So not a cameo, but still a nice touch!

[@chwk7190]

@@mediocreman2 you must be fun at parties

[@juanmedinar20]

They are calling out Throttle house for being full of ****.

[@dirt205]

@@juanmedinar20 no, they are just addressing the false warning that throttle house got due to poor algorith /software from tesla

[@joyroc885]

@@juanmedinar20 No they weren't. If you were listening you would have heard Jason explain that the earlier ones gave a false brake over heat msg and Tesla fixed that.

[@bioduntube]

Jason is the closest thing to watching the good old top gear. Well-done guys

[@daveyjones777]

@@bioduntube without the stupid childish theatrics like driving through RVs.

[@mbclk65amg]

@@daveyjones777 I'd say you sound fun to hang around with at parties, but you'd have to be invited first. Silly things are fun, live a little.

[@houssamalucad753]

It definitely puts the same smile on our faces, and that's all that matters.

[@TheDCJason]

Unpopular opinion: Thomas and James from Throttle House and Jason are better than Top Gear.

[@randypobstofficial]

I agree - he’s got so much knowledge and great delivery - and opinions. Oh yes, strong views and states them 💪

[@LegoSM737]

So…this is basically Icons, Ultimate Drag Race Replay, Ultimate Lap Battle, and Head to Head combined with Jason and Randy? I’m in heaven…

[@LipockRahman]

Can we take a minute and all agree that this is the best automotive KZbin channel exists. The cinematography, the driving, the presentation is 10/10 ❤

[@chiggedycheckyoself]

I’d pay good money to watch a complete behind the scenes video to see how they put these together. Anything from scripting, camera setup, editing, color grading, and so on. The production value of these videos is just amazing.

[@mribi]

Same

[@recursion.]

what is good money? $50 or $500? regardless easier said than done.

[@alejandroperez5368]

@@recursion. $10

[@josephgolio36]

There’s a 2 hour Carmudgeon show episode with the team about this from around a year ago! It’s a great watch/listen

[@addickland5656]

@13:12 Wait, WHAT!! Both of these are faster than a Ferrari 458?! My God cars really have come a long way since the days of 458's Top Gear fame! Deep respect to both BMW and Tesla for bringing supercar performance from a decade ago within a normal functional family car today, that's insane.

[@3rdworldgarage450]

Not only that, but. Civic Type R was only a tenth off the 458 as well. Goes to show how overrated the prancing horse really is

[@mitchell-wallisforce7859]

@@3rdworldgarage450 Eeeeh. How much of that is down to the insane performance of modern tires, though? The 458 was working with Pirellis whose spec is now a decade old, so one wonders how much that time would come down with new Pilot Sport 4S tires on. This doesn't make the BMW, Tesla, or CTR _less_ impressive, but still.

[@KTMcaptain]

@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 but by that logic the M3P and M3 carbon had the same lap time because they were identical until the M3P’s tires degraded. Maybe the M3P would have been faster with the same tires. Ultimately I agree with you but it’s difficult to have a track time leader board when technology and dynamics change with every passing test. Maybe they can do a benchmark car where they lap it with every tire and provide a coefficient to the time for a tire corrected leaderboard.

[@AnonymousPerson-h5z]

a 2023 civic type r is also faster . And a better car all around than any tesla .

[@johnnightingale7680]

BMW weights about the same as the Tesla

[@andrewm5840]

Jason calls out the feelings vs facts debacle. Also love the full frontal nature of this ep. Breath of fresh air

[@flyingphoenix113]

It seems like a fairly pointless section. Performance cars are a purely emotional purchase. They are less efficient, more expensive to insure and operate, less comfortable, etc. Trying to subject a fundamentally emotional decision to the rigors of logic is precisely why Jason continually fails to understand the car community's broad disdain for EV performance cars.

[@Kammandier]

a car to sum is an emotional purchase. Otherwise buggatti wouldnt be in business

[@G82Watts]

Tesla cult fans are the biggest nerds ever. Jason hit the nail on the head in his podcast. The model 3 wins in subjective categories that are Jason Comissa personal preference (even though in his podcast he said he rather drive a track car over a daily driver anyday 🤔) The bmw wins in an objective way. By the numbers and the facts. I can argue that the bmw is more fun to to drive due to it being faster, having an exhaust note,better handling and braking,etc... I can argue daily driving a bmw m3 competition brings more joy and feels more special to cruise around in and be in. U can't argue that the tesla is a better sports car becuase the numbers don't lie. U can't argue it has better all around performance becuase the numbers don't lie. How have u not realized that jason comissa is a tesla mouthpiece. Imagine using one persons opinion over the many others that say otherwise like these guys, matt from carwow,smokingtire,throttle house, etc.. they all say the bmw is way more fun and performance oriented. Jason is as biased as it gets. Juat go to the daily driving segment of his las video. The bmw m3 also has red light camera assist. It shows up in ur HUD and tells u when the light is green. BMW has surviellance and crash recording cameras that work just like sentry mode in a tesla. Also everything he mentioned about the bmw while they were in it .. HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE APPLE CAR PLAY TURNED ON. It changes the entire layout and oh.. u can change the stereo and or see the maps in ur HEADS UP DISPLAY. Which tesla doesnt have. Jason had no idea what the bmw offered it's almost like he just saw the categories and automatically gave the model 3 the win. Also for the endurance test Jason calls it a tie? But the model 3 had to be set in endurance mode which cuts the power output in order to finish a lap without overheating. Meanwhile the bmw doesnnt. So how is that a tie? Bro, stop listening and start doing ur own research.

[@alsa4real]

@flyingphoenix113 then why would they be delighted by the fact that u can get a Miata and a GR86 for the price of the M3 competition if they're not enjoyers of the ICE sports car experience? If they didn't understand the charm of ICE sports cars, why would they say that other purpose built sports cars would be as exciting as the M3 competition on a backroad at half the speed?

[@ChosenMJ]

I​ love how people want to put there shortcomings on others. Emotional car buyers are just what dealerships are looking for, another sucker that will overpay for an already overpriced hunk of metal. Not happening here.

[@David-wz7cg]

The production quality of this video is astounding. Easily one of the best videos I've seen on KZbin, congratulations.

[@newtechgs7471]

The end of this is crazy. That price difference is insane

[@alanmay7929]

no its not! and the bmw is almost a 200mph car with the same power as the tesla thats just one key aspect, now tune the bmw and youre gone even crazier.

[@siddharthgoyal4008]

@@alanmay7929 so basically spend more money, void the warranty on your already expensive car. Yeah, I can see why BMW sales are down.

[@G82Watts]

@@siddharthgoyal4008 bmw sales are down? Also have u ever heard of a piggyback tune? Bmw sales have skyrocketed. "Ben Hardy bmw vs mercedes" or look up the top 15 selling car brands 2024. Bmw is the only luxury brand in the top 15. Oh and tesla is behind bmw.

[@dubnr3d]

@@G82Watts did you tell someone to look something up without looking it up yourself? Everything you said is completely wrong. Tesla sold twice as many cars last quarter in the US than BMW did.

[@hershil12]

@@siddharthgoyal4008 thats why you wait until warranty is done and then enjoy your beast to a whole new level :) x3m comp owner here.

[@roekel12]

Randy Pobst explaining the holy trinity at the end made the whole video for me. Thanks for making this, keep them coming.

[@sergioserrano4167]

@@roekel12 God bless our driving freedoms 🙏🏽

[@WizardSoon]

Hahahaa Randy's acting in the model 3 to Throttle house video is awesome

[@randypobstofficial]

Acting? 😉 Thx 😊

[@thomprd]

@@randypobstofficial Awesome.

[@Twin.motors]

I thought It was more of them calling out the fake anti Tesla propaganda throttle house did. They called it dangerous but in reality.. it's track ready and brakes are perfectly fine

[@chrisoconnell8432]

@@Twin.motors I don't think it was anti Tesla propaganda. The endurance mode used in this video came out after the Throttle House video came out, prob in response to the video.

[@anthonyschroeder521]

@@chrisoconnell8432 Not only that, there were some conversations at the time that the OG mode had regen down to near 0, which put more load on the brakes, while the powertrain was totally unphased in their testing. On short trips/sprints, less regen is going to be faster, as you let the powertrain only generate heat during acceleration, but then more total load goes into the braking system instead. On endurance racing, it is the opposite, just like 24hr races etc. Obviously there should be a balancing point, and that point was probably just a bit more regen than TH had on tap there. That increased regen syncs well with the M3P pulling power earlier, since the consistent load is likely similar as a result.

[@nubin0807]

Had a Model 3 Long Range, great car, but switched this year to the M3 Competition which is absolutley amazing, in love with it!! Just have to say this editing and presentation is unreal

[@Scott-px6mi]

Thats crazy! Do you like spending that much money huh just to have a M3 well to each his own

[@Scott-px6mi]

Thats crazy! Do you like spending that much money huh just to have a M3 well to each his own. I’m not talking about money for the car on top about maintenance oil, changes, gas transmission, and so and so forth.

[@nubin0807]

@Scott-px6mi it's through my business, so it really doesn't matter. Doesn't work out that much more

[@haqk4583]

I have a Model 3 long range + Acceleration Boost. Just a tad slower than the Performance. Bang for buck baby!

[@nubin0807]

@haqk4583 bang for you buck the Tesla is amazing. It really is a great car, i loved it. I have loved M3 since i was young, and kind of a dream car. The thing is absolutely nuts, it's aggressively quick, hard to explain, but it's amazing

[@mcunha81]

Considering how ridiculously expensive those Perellis are,its a laugh that it was the only weak point of the M3P. Would be interesting to see both cars back with exact same tires,and see how close the laps would be. Great video guys ❤😊

[@Line-vw5io]

M3 comes in Europe with Michelin, I think the S5. Especially developed for the M3. They worked 3y on that tire.

[@BlazeFirereign]

@@Line-vw5io Not the Performance, sadly. I think it comes on the same Pirellis as North American market Model 3s. I *hope* I'm wrong, as I have one on the way, and I'd rather have Michelins than Pirellis. But Michelin don't show anything that's Tesla OE for the rear sizing. (The updated Performance has a staggered setup, 235/35R20 front - same as the pre-refresh - but 275/30R20 at the back.) Michelin *used* to be the OE. Some years back, the European Model 3 shipped on the PS4 for the standard 18"s, and PS4S for the performance's 20".

[@klikar1982]

@@Line-vw5io no, mine is on pirelli p zero

[@G82Watts]

Still would of lost. 1 lap around a 1 min track doesn't say much now once u saw the endurance test and multiple laps that says alot about how they perform on track. Tesla was A MILE behind.

[@paulopereira6996]

The weight difference matters in tyre performance. M3 weight is all full, adding to the difference.

[@james_rangihika]

You are the best car reviewer. Period. This is the new Top Gear, but much much better.

[@G82Watts]

How have u not realized that jason comissa is a tesla mouthpiece. Imagine using one persons opinion over the many others that say otherwise like these guys, matt from carwow,smokingtire,throttle house, etc.. they all say the bmw is way more fun and performance oriented. Jason is as biased as it gets. Juat go to the daily driving segment of his las video. The bmw m3 also has red light camera assist. It shows up in ur HUD and tells u when the light is green. BMW has surviellance and crash recording cameras that work just like sentry mode in a tesla. Also everything he mentioned about the bmw while they were in it .. HE DIDNT EVEN HAVE APPLE CAR PLAY TURNED ON. It changes the entire layout and oh.. u can change the stereo and or see the maps in ur HEADS UP DISPLAY. Which tesla doesnt have. Jason had no idea what the bmw offered it's almost like he just saw the categories and automatically gave the model 3 the win. Also for the endurance test Jason calls it a tie? But the model 3 had to be set in endurance mode which cuts the power output in order to finish a lap without overheating. Meanwhile the bmw doesnnt. So how is that a tie? Bro, stop listening and start doing ur own research.

[@taisalem]

​​​@@G82Watts I think you and others commenting on this video might have missed the point. This was a thoughtful and well-rounded review by a skilled automotive journalist, focused on comparing two cars in depth. His job is to provide balanced reviews for consumers and target audiences, setting his personal preferences aside. For context, his track car is a salvage-title E30, and his recent addition to his fleet is an 850 CSI, a naturally aspirated V12 - 6 Speed BMW. I’d suggest doing some research before making such dismissive statements and suggesting that others should do research and stop listening.

[@zonapainter]

Jason's videos are like watching an Academy Award winning documentary. The production quality is absolutely amazing. Adding Randy to the mix just puts it over the top. Bravo gentlemen, bravo!

[@Curse930]

Hi there, as a Car guy from Germany, this video was one of the best automotive Episodes ever created. Great filming, editing, humor and a very honest comparison of two great cars. Saying this as a former BMW owner, who drives a Tesla now. Keep up this awesome work

[@ColtCapperrune]

Quite possibly the best video to date. The push and pull of the story, very well written!

[@Mexxx65]

Underrated comment

[@nathanielross8232]

Perhaps their best video to date, and they are all very very good.

[@LG-ct8tw]

Randy is really getting into it. Bring him back please!

[@joseroldan9247]

Automotive journalism at its finest and slam to the review done by Throttle House! Keep up the great work Randy, Jason, and team Hagerty!

[@juanmedinar20]

What nod? They are calling throttle house for not knowing what they are talking about. Randy didn't crash, the brakes were great and the Model 3 can do a track day.

[@joseroldan9247]

Yes, I agree and understand what they were doing by showing Randy having PTSD sitting in the car. Regardless, they showed the car was able to survive Willow Springs Raceway for a hot lap session despite the issues Throttle House called out in their initial review. Clearly, the model they drove in Toronto was either an early model or something else was going on when Thomas was driving it around their course. Have a good day.

[@bryanmiller2023]

Agreed, there are so many "influencers" on KZbin that try to do reviews that totally miss the level of journalism Jason hits on a regular basis. Video comparisons based solely on opinions are nothing more than eye candy.

[@anno1602]

It's not a nod so much as a slam

[@ThePilotGear]

@@juanmedinar20 lol Throttle House is a great entertaining car channel; nothing less. Take some, leave some, but I'd wager they'd know quite a bit more about track days than you or I.

[@ryanevans2655]

Love the Trinitarian summary at the end. St Augustine would be proud 😂

[@calvinallan2208]

Well I'll see you guys in another 2 months 😅

[@nastystew6942]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cosmins3268]

@@calvinallan2208 quality over quantity

[@G82Watts]

@@calvinallan2208 id rather someone other then Jason review these comparisons. Bmw won every sports car category and that's the title of the video. It clearly should be the winner. I'd be happy if they re titled it too "cheapest way to ALMOST own a bmw m3" then the winner would make sense

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@G82Watts Tesla is the better all around car, period. Keep coping.

[@tereyagiz775]

@@G82Wattsbro said, Jason did not pick my m3 so he should not review cars anymore 🤣🤣 I guess the religion joke went over your head

[@sturat18]

As an owner of a Model 3 and ND2 Miata-- I can confirm-- it feels like my "attainable" dream garage.

[@andrewb325]

The 3 is such a great car and gets so much undeserved hate, mostly by people who have never even driven one. It took me about 15 minutes of driving an original Model 3 long range to make me a total convert. Undoubtedly the updated versions are even better. The thing that really stood was how good the steering was. Better than any other EPS car I’ve driven.

[@hassanger8128]

One is a crappy cheap vcuum cleaner that will lose half of its value in one year. The other is a motorsporting legend that will turn everyone's head.

[@sturat18]

I’ve had my 3 for five years now. I’m convinced EVs are just better daily drivers- and the torque never gets old. The MX5 is just sensational fun.

[@bryanmiller2023]

​@hassanger8128 Wait when did I miss BMW's suddenly not having horrible resale value?

[@adrienadrien5940]

I own both à Model 3 performance and a E60 M5. Both great machine. EV are such good car TBH.

[@Starky513]

This review was excellent. We are incredibly lucky to have Jason and Randy making content for us....thank you both and thank you Hagerty.

[@RobColbert]

This isn't some of the best car content on KZbin. It's THE best car content on KZbin. Advanced storytelling, enough science, exactly full documentation of the cars doing what they do, and a level of intelligence you just don't get elsewhere. Hosts have real credentials. Production crew second to none. Job well done.

[@wisruteb]

The Model 3 Performance has indeed come a long way. A quick test drive really shows how good the adaptive suspension really is. The ventilated seats are perfect for the hot days, and it sure is more than fast enough. The problem is cars like the M3 are dying, and if you want one, now it’s the time to buy. The Model 3 Performance? It’ll only get better from here.

[@Kev27RS]

The Model 3 Performance looks better to be honest!

[@AnonymousPerson-h5z]

cars like the model 3 are dying , cars like the civic type r have been here for 50 years and are here to stay .

[@toadpickle]

@@AnonymousPerson-h5zthe cope is unreal 🫵😹

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@AnonymousPerson-h5z Repeat it a few more times. Maybe, just maybe you'll actually believe it. LMFAO SMH

[@SupraSav]

EV sales are on the decline 😂 Corporations are slaves to the dollar. People don't want EVs! Not in their current state!

[@12bluex]

Randy is the nicest, down to earth, hall of famer you'll ever meet. Got to see him at Miata Reunion at Sonoma couple of weeks ago when Randy drove up in a lime green M4.

[@vipertp3]

In a world of you can't make anyone happy, this video takes on the hardest fans and critics of both EV and Gas Motors and provides a thorough in-depth review and excellent assessment. Jason and Randy are the best. Thanks guys! I love these Hagerty Videos! Jason, keep the faith the industry still needs you!

[@Bradlydee]

I just smiled when i saw a notification that Cammisa just posted a video😭👌

[@sudeeptaghosh]

He is something

[@c208captain]

more fun than going to the movies

[@mattdavidholmes2509]

This is one of the best show’s and KZbin video’s I’ve seen in so long. So amazing to see Jason and Randy back at it with NOT H2H. 🎉

[@alanwinston6512]

"Hope we don't get sued" after that sequenced wheel turn and tread2tread label was hysterical. 😂

[@FastRedPonyCar]

I used to have the previous generation model 3 performance and stepped up to an X3M Competition and although not perfect, it's a much better driving experience overall. I'm glad that Tesla addressed pretty much every complaint I had in my video at the end of my lease with the things I didn't like about the car. The one thing not mentioned in this video though that I think resonates with most M owners is that when I was in the Tesla, I was just like a hundred other tesla drivers in my city. It's not a special car. I didn't feel special. I felt like just any other Tesla driver in town. Sure the new Model 3P ticks a lot of boxes as demonstrated in this video but the intangible feeling of being in something pretty exclusive (especially compared to the vanilla ice cream model 3) cannot be overlooked. There are literally THREE X3M Comps in my city of about 200k people and mine is the blue one. That's it. I see at least 9 or 10 model 3's on my 8 mile drive to work and they don't even register in my brain but the Audi RS's, the other M's, the 911's and any other more exclusive rides, my head is turned.

[@slin4013]

I see 20-30 3s and Ys driving 10 min in Bellevue WA. It’s because they are so good and so cheap 😂. Definitely agree you are just one of them in a Tesla. But let’s not kid ourselves either a BMW x3m is just bother BMW as well which is all over the place also. Only a car enthusiast would know that’s a not normal x3. It doesn’t turn heads either.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

@@slin4013 The other X3's are all just black and white. Mine is Marina Bay Blue and it stands out from that perspective but I get where you're coming from. M3's don't jump out either unless they're in a color like the one in this video.

[@markme3259]

…you’re right…so I ghosted the car…put special black wheels…large spoiler…lowered….not another M3P looks like mine…I get the ?? looks at the superchargers…

[@kinikinrd]

from a distance, they are both just another 4-door sedan. No style.

[@iv4ir]

But you’re paying a hefty price to stand out

[@danielmarton2505]

The quality on these videos are insanely good.

[@jameshuegli3534]

This conclusion is hilarious because I’m literally buying a M3P with the plans to get a Miata for the weekend.

[@tealchief]

Get some sway bars, tires, and an alignment, they are a hoot.

[@Kev27RS]

The Model 3 Performance looks better than the M3 to be honest!

[@papa_pt]

damn solid combo

[@Lost_In_LA]

My dream duo as well

[@stevemartegani]

Perfect 2 car garage

[@hakus5240]

This is the only channel I watch at fullscreen mode on PC. And that says something.

[@ThinkfreeorDie]

I feel like I should be paying for this. The fact that I can just watch this for free seems almost criminal. Thank you for being a reprieve from other automotive outlets that seemed to have lost their mind!

[@randypobstofficial]

Thank you. I’m biased, but these really seem like the best car shows on the Internet.

[@AngelValdovinos]

You aren't watching for free

[@mousetreat]

Did you see the commercials in this video? (or did you pay for YT Premium) Not free.

[@AliNajafies]

Jason's videos are getting better and better one after another. I've watched this episode many times so far. Combining spectacular shots with astonishing music and brilliant lines makes it so pleasant to watch. I hope Randy is feeling ok. That joke about the lethal accident was brutal. I get goosebumps every time I watch it.

[@simeonsoldier]

This show is so underrated. Needs much more appreciation!

[@tiagocoelho7415]

How the f..hell am I watching this for free?

[@_que]

Please get Hagerty insurance

[@JoshuaTootell]

If something is free, you are the product.

[@servissop151]

@@JoshuaTootell Honestly, not the case. Applies to youtube as a platform, sure, but Hagerty is otherwise gaining no money from me. I'm not a car owner, let alone insured to Hagerty, or even in their area of business. I am watching this for "free" as I am watching anything else on social media for "free"

[@mediocreman2]

Well, you're not.

[@ethan999oz]

Jason's videos are the only ones that I won't skip while watching. It's a shame that there are people who keep accusing him of being biased one way or the other when he clearly does his upmost to be as objective as humanly possible. Car enthusiasts went from being the absolute best group of people whom you'd ever interact with to people I actively try to avoid because of how toxic they've become. I really hope they don't ruin this for Jason like they have for me. It would be a huge loss for the car community.

[@alanwinston6512]

Dude, I completely agree. One of the reasons I became a car guy and a mechanic was because of those old school car guys, but that generation has sadly disappeared and been replaced by the real house wives of lifetime drama and I've never wanted out of the motorpool more. How dare anyone be objective and honest and have fun doing it.

[@ethan999oz]

​@@alanwinston6512 So damn true! It's especially amplified when most of your interactions are online. The anonymity of it all, sometimes just brings out the worst in people. " One of the reasons I became a car guy and a mechanic was because of those old school car guys,...." I see so much of that in people like Jason and Randy which is why I follow these guys. They remind me of the good old days when you were allowed to have your own personal preferences and still appreciate things that are different. I'm also glad that there are still people like you out there. Gives me hope that someday things might go back to how it once was. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my rant lol.

[@shiikon2193]

Because he’s still biased, every Tesla video he’s done has praised controversial things and glossed over important considerations. This video didn’t mention battery percentage drop, how annoying it is to not have a gauge cluster or physical button, or the actual point of brake degradation without the endurance mode. He even praised the awful cybertruck steer by wire previously

[@alanwinston6512]

@@shiikon2193 I agree that this could be much more in depth with the information we would all like to have to consider for a daily driver comparison and i would add that if that information was delivered by these hosts with Haggerty resources for both cars with the same enthusiasm and detail as well as excitment and frustration as the rest of the video; we would all still watch that much longer video and pause to look over those stats as well as the goofy things like the fake check. More fact based information equals more transparency and less room for any noticeable bias from hosts and viewers alike.

[@ethan999oz]

@@shiikon2193 Let me start here first, "He even praised the awful cybertruck steer by wire previously" Awful how? The only people who've I've seen complain about it are people who've never driven it. Everyone else seems love it. "Because he’s still biased, every Tesla video he’s done has praised controversial things and glossed over important considerations." Him getting excited over the engineering aspects of it all is not bias. He's allowed to be excited about things. "This video didn’t mention battery percentage drop," I'll give you that, but again that still doesn't make him biased. It's not like they have a habit or reporting how much fuel they have at the end of such tests anyways. "how annoying it is to not have a gauge cluster or physical button" Maybe not the gauge cluster(old news at this point) but he literally complains about the lack of stalks and steering wheel buttons in the video. You really want him to spend more time beating that dead horse? "or the actual point of brake degradation without the endurance mode." They already mentioned the Throttle house's video that addresses it. I see no point in him repeating it here as well.

[@markb2860]

Listened to The podcast first and watch the show. Excellent production! I love the cost comparison at the end too. And the fact that you can get three perfect vehicles for the situation for the price of the BMW. That's what really puts it in perspective

[@georgepal9154]

Just starting the video. I can feel this is gonna rile people up and I'm here for it. 2:59 oh my god that was hilarious I have finished the video and I think this might be your best one yet, Jason. The endurance test with the layering was awesome. I love how much work goes in to these.

[@brandongrenier1141]

You guys have THE BEST overall car videos and it's not even close. Funny, high quality, and fair

[@randypobstofficial]

I agree, Brandon. Special car videos. The best

[@OliverMcGill]

Amazing video team! The cinematography in the mountains was breathtaking, felt like I was watching a Bond movie.

[@marvelousbonginkosincube7995]

@21:35 that take off left the EV for dead 😂

[@povertyvoyager]

Jason camissa, an absolute joy to watch, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[@MohdSaud-bz9tw]

every time you people blow me away.. I think the best part is that every video has it own unique flavor.. grt job guyzzzzzzz

[@dr.z8378]

Please continue this series FOREVER!!!!!❤❤❤

[@felipeadebarros]

I want to congratulate you guys on the way you put this video together, the way you added it. Funny enough, and I also really easy to understand the differences. Great job!!

[@GohanKanor]

viewing one of Jason's videos is like to viewing a documentary that won an Academy Award. The level of production quality is simply astounding. Including Randy just makes it more extravagant. Bravo, gentlemen! Well done!

[@tenka__]

I can't be the only to be able to appreciate both cars. Both are marvels of engineering in their own right, and though their uses and target audiences may differ, I dare to say they both are just as capable to deliver joy to their drivers. For me, the M3 feels like a sports car (I know, I know, sports sedan, but anyways) that is surprisingly capable for daily driving. While the Tesla feels like an excellent daily driver that is surprisingly capable on a track. But for the price, I do agree with Jason that I would get the Tesla, Miata and GR86 instead of just the BMW. Gotta say, this channel's production is through the roof! It's like watching hollywood level quality about cars with fantastic narration. Gotta love the humor too (I burst out laughing at the Mac startup sound for Tesla charging). Special shoutout to your music guy, the score was so engaging and made the whole video more immersive.

[@07BSPtC]

I do as well. Had an 8y rs3 switched to a highland model 3 performance.

[@Kev27RS]

The Model 3 Performance looks better to be honest! Still not a fan of the massive front end of the M3…

[@dougrobinson8602]

The beauty of it is that you don't have to be able to afford an M3 P. Very few people have the wherewithal to afford such a beast, let alone maintain it. I did notice the Toyota Supra was nearly equal to the Model 3 Performance in lap time. Still, it's way more money than the Model 3. Give Tesla credit for building a car an enthusiast can appreciate, just bring back the turn signal stalk, or make it an option.

[@carsonj4031]

exactly, I don't know why cars have become some weird political issue. why cant people just like fun and fast cars?

[@ganymede6535]

​@@carsonj4031real. Like you dont have to like certain cars but that doesnt mean you're less of a man because you drive this rather than that

[@OrionFH]

This just shows you what incredible things are possible with todays cars, whether it's electric or ICE

[@Corvolet5]

I agree. The new Model 3 has become surprisingly good, just too bad the rest of the world has a 50 hp decrease in power for the Perf.

[@OrionFH]

@@Corvolet5 Yep getting the low power one here in Germany. It's crazy, I bought a 2019 Model 3 used recently and it charges so much faster compared to the 2023 Model 3 from a friend of mine. U.S. vs. China battery ;)

[@Corvolet5]

@OrionFH Ah, fellow German. Funny. I have a bias for diesel cars, but I can see why people like the Performance. Even if I like my consistent fast Autobahn rides.

[@OrionFH]

​@@Corvolet5 Agree, it's personal preference. Going fast consistently is not the strength of EVs, although the Tesla's range at 130/140 kph is hard to beat in EV world

[@Corvolet5]

@OrionFH Honestly anything below 150 feels slow to me 😄 but yeah, 130-140 is good enough for long commutes.

[@t-money10]

Please more videos of these two hosts They are simply amazing. Sincerely a Hagerty customer ❤

[@hathersage]

THIS is yet another example of well thought out and well produced video. Exceptional balance between objectivity and subjectivity, while entertainment value is maintained throughout with humor, wit, and insight. Putting it all together at the end, it presents the value behind each purchase while leaving it to what is really at the end of the day - a personal decision. Superb video, just superb.

[@mikeponath3696]

You two ROCK! Love that you are still doing what we all want to watch!

[@JohnsmithQqqq]

The editing people for Hagerty are superhuman 😮.

[@Berretotube]

Such a brilliant review - thank you! Helps us make an informed decision, based on our own individual use case. Both cars amazing - take your pick, based on your preferences and budget. Hoorah!!

[@sinoevc]

To be honest, that green BMW is simply too cool

[@greenearth9945]

Thats the only reason it sells. The cool factor, the pricing is ridiculous

[@amaldev4150]

Words can't express how much fun it's to watch Jason and Randy together, It's an extremely well made video. Thanks a lot Hagerty, Jason and everyone involved making this video.

[@wendystacos7447]

This was an awesome video. Production quality and writing are off the charts

[@born1n0z]

Good point about the price… but some people only have 1 spot to park their car. And remember then you have to keep all of them insured, registered them, clean them, make sure you drive the little track car so the battery doesn’t go flat (or keep it on a trickle charge… or remove the battery when not driving). Plus… have you tried telling your partner that you are buying 2 more cars to “muck around in”? It’s not that practical to have three cars (trust me). If you can afford an all-rounder… buy the all-rounder.

[@ewadge]

True. For me, it would have to be the Tesla. I think it’s a better all rounder, cheaper to buy, cheaper to run, more comfortable and, with my skill level, just as quick.

[@born1n0z]

@@ewadge fair enough mate.

[@brentgreen8209]

That's where I am, just a fun thing to say but not actually do. I'm not going to store, maintain, insure, and pay property taxes on 3 vehicles instead of 1 that can tick all my boxes.

[@dan725]

LOL at that “tread 2 tread” intro! The video just comes out swinging right from the start!!! Also BEAUTIFUL camera work!!!!

[@Car_Tism]

Easily the best automotive journalists on KZbin, hands down. Those shots fired at Throttle House!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 THANK YOU for voicing everything I was thinking about their review! They’re great guys, but glad Randy proved Thomas wrong

[@raysonviswas]

Honestly, I want you guys to put the best tyres on the stock rims. If I really cared about speed, I'd go and get the best tyres, which is what I did in all my cars.

[@daveyjones777]

Yes, I kept hoping that they would put the same tires on the Tesla because if they’re gonna say you can buy two more cars, you could certainly say you could buy some better tires

[@andreww2927]

I feel like there was a missed opportunity here, one that may have discredited my other favourite car channel. How long would the brakes have lasted if the Tesla were in full attack mode?

[@7h3th1]

The m3 would win 9/10 brother

[@BananaChipzzz]

Another absolute masterpiece of a video. Randy and Jason are gold. Also, do a collab with Throttle House..

[@beyondthispoint5557]

Please. Pretty please. Would begging help?

[@dannyumana143]

I appreciate the humor, need more of these comparison videos.

[@haoyanglin5974]

The production quality is off the charts, gotta be the best automotive journalism right now.

[@_que]

Motortrend who... JC was the core and they didn't know it...

[@xbxb]

Thank god, this channel exists. I'm tired of Tech KZbinrs pretending to know a car.

[@gunsandcommissions]

Impressive writing and production. THANK YOU for getting outside the automotive journalism box that everyone else operates within.

[@randypobstofficial]

Thank you, gotta agree!

[@andyenright1436]

Superb video from start to finish. Sometimes all you ask is that a presentation shows you one thing new and interesting that you hadn't previously considered. This brought a stack of insight. Great work.

[@XXfea]

This is the way - You are the modern incarnation of L.J.K. Setright - The FINEST highest production value automotive journalism ON THE PLANET. Congratulations. "Drive On!

[@randypobstofficial]

I so enjoyed LJK Setright, too 👍 Yes, Jason is amazing

[@earlmacmullin4688]

I can't wait to watch the Carmudgeon episode about this + the comments post release... A-1 production quality & amazing hosts. Great job all involved!!

[@LearningFast]

Pretty crazy that you can buy two of the Model 3 Performance cars for the same price as a fully loaded M3 Competition.

[@bjornar9026]

It depends on what market you're buying in.

[@mocheen4837]

I have a Model 3 Performance, Model Y Performance and a BMW M3. I am just missing a Porsche 911 S on the shopping list.

[@blackthunderty]

@@mocheen4837 Hey there brother, mind sharing 1k for the poorest of the poorest over here 😭🙏

[@omichaelnato5388]

@@mocheen4837 dang what’s the uses for all these ? Def need a turbo s.

[@ilovelimpfries]

​@bjornar9026 yep, in some countries you can buy FIVE tesla model 3 performance for the price of ONE base model M3.

[@HKS-007]

Well done, guys. This is the best car review video on KZbin. I recently switched from a V8 C63S to a Model Y Performance, and although I miss the growl, the gritty driving experience, and that AMG badge, the Tesla is just an unbeatable daily family car with speed. The biggest downside is having low-IQ Tesla haters memes sent to me daily. Now you guys make me want to trade for the less practical but cooler Model 3 Performance!

[@Lost_In_LA]

This video deserves an Emmy. The production, writing, humor, well delivered lines, and best of all-the detailed analysis-is superb. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. 👏👏👏👏👏

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Okay, Randy watching the boys from Throttle House was hilarious...

[@michaellossau1681]

I know that the comparison was on factory spec, but I'd like to see the track comparison on equal tires. The M3 might still lap quicker, but the difference might be less. Also, for purely academic reasons, it would be interesting to see how many laps the Tesla could go in its top performance mode, versus its endurance mode.

[@GenghisGaming]

There’s tons of videos already of people tracking it with full performance. It unfortunately pretty quickly overheats and also leads to a big breaking performance drop as well. The new endurance mode they must have special access to because it’s not even out yet and it’s the first video I’ve managed to find it in action

[@HaloDude557]

@@GenghisGamingwillow springs also has a lot of high speed corners. I think it would struggle a lot more on a track with big braking zones.

[@st-ex8506]

Why not "invest" a fraction of the money you save buying the Tesla Model 3P over the BMW M3 Competition in ceramic brakes and a complete track package? Then, you can really compare apples to apples on the track!

[@HaloDude557]

@@st-ex8506 rather buy a base camaro (rip) and build it for the track. You make up for the noise and gearshifts

[@michaellossau1681]

@@GenghisGaming UT. Ot this in a head to head with the BMW.

[@sunilsolanki]

This has got to be one of the most beautifully shot, produced and graphically designed car videos I have ever seen. Kudos to Jason, Randy and everyone who worked on this masterpiece of Art and science.

[@Miggy2j]

The production is next level! Love the tesla cheque gag as well 😂

[@ourkaravan]

Consistent high quality you guys. As a gas, diesel and EV owner, I have to say my Tesla is one of my favorite cars I've ever owned, and I love the near-zero maintenance.

[@zhengmingxi]

Jason thinking about quitting auto journalism after covering Tesla Cybertruck, then Model 3 in drag race. Now a new comparison involving the Model 3. His way of flipping off the haters.

[@ARCNA442]

There are too many immature people out there who hate everyone who doesn't pander to their biases.

[@johnparker841]

The Comments section has it right: this is a really, really good video. Hats off.

[@duduoson1306]

I felt like I was watching a modern Hollywood production but with a more engaging script, better casting, less propaganda, and real stunts instead of CGI.

[@BeatonLS6]

Incredible perspective at the end. I'd have the Model 3 Long Range, A GR86 track car, and a ton of cash in my pocket over the M3.

[@bimeroknew4119]

@@plamenkostov1301🤦

[@logitech4873]

@@plamenkostov1301 That's completely false lol. Of course you can. You can go on a 6-7 hour drive without charging.

[@logitech4873]

@@plamenkostov1301 No driving on public roads will ever overheat a tesla, unless you're being extremely reckless - in which case you shouldn't have a license.

[@lostalx]

M3Comp is going to outpace all 3 cars in 10 years. GR86 has engine fire issues, Miata is just a tiny car for niche and Model 3 will drop its value by 20K in 2 years. I'll get an M3 over anything or a Lexus LC 500 for that money.

[@Nah5534]

​@@lostalxYet to see a single M3 win class in GridLife, SCCA, or GTA 86s have been doing it for years

[@thebarkingmouse]

I have an m3p. Raced a bit when I was young. Did a rally driving course and folksracing in Finland. Road course in the USA. My biggest criticism of the m3p are the brakes. They fade spooky fast. Other than that, handles great! Slight rear bias. Goes like the clappers. If i were to actually track it, I'd upgrade the brakes and rotors and find a way to duct air from the front to the front disks directly.

[@alangil40]

If you were young when you raced it, you must still be young. Coming from a 58-year-old - I was young in the 80s and 90s and definitely no m3ps back then.

[@thebarkingmouse]

@alangil40 I didn't say I raced the m3p. I raced cars when I was young. Late 80's early 90's. The best car I raced was a 968 stripped out for weight.

[@alangil40]

@@thebarkingmouse Got it now, misread at first. But that makes much more sense.

[@perryharovas]

These ar truly masterpieces of quality, information, humor and editing. NEVER. STOP. WATCHING.

[@jaspermotorsport]

Give me the BMW over the 3 others, The bit about Jesus at the end. That was good. Good seed planted.

[@batitsogtsaikhan469]

I’m glad I watched it to the end. 3 cars vs 1 really puts the whole comparison into perspective.

[@atishpatel6353]

But who will put 3 cars on their driveway when 1 car can do it all?

[@batitsogtsaikhan469]

@ Guess it depends but street parking is an option for most. Lots of people have 2 car garages and big driveways. The point being made was the M3 can do it all adequately but nothing beats having specialized cars for each purpose

[@MrMara7hon]

Love a good Throttle House cameo!

[@gjrules2004]

Wow, what a truly brilliant video. Fair, accurate, entertaining, funny and awesome production value. I have a plaid model S that I autocross. I swap out the stock (range focused) wheels for the Tesla track pack (eagle sport F1) wheels at the track and swap them back after. Don't see enough content out there on that car, would be great to see a comparison of that car vs something like this M3.