Tesla Model 3 Performance vs BMW M3 Competition - Track Battle - Cammisa's Ultimate Comparison Test

[@afina_tm3]

The production quality and the two hosts are the reason why I watch this channel

[@pistonburner6448]

Well, no-one's watching it because Teslas are interesting. Plus, he's always wrong about so many things. In this video he makes the absolutely astoundingly absurd claim that Model 3 would be "the best car for everyday driving", when there are so many other cars which offer far lower noise levels, better comfort, and massive amounts more equipment plus customizability including the huge issue of different body styles. Tesla doesn't offer massage seats (I guess it now offers ventilated seats...in the Model 3 too?), adaptive headlights, night vision, adjustable suspension (AFAIK), station wagon option, physical buttons, enough stalks, good quality, any customizability. Does the Model 3 even offer ventilated seats, is that now available? Also no class & no fun. No proper customer service either. No non-electric door handles to open the car in case of a crash or fire. No concierge service in Europe (which is an actual human assistant one button away to be at your beck and call, which Mercedes and BMW both offer. My Merc offers even heated window sills and armrest (in addition to steering wheel), and airbags in the rear seatbelts. Competitors offer convertibles and station wagons...Tesla does not.

[@Chris-hw4mq]

Dream team. They should be on the next grand tour

[@81MercTurbo]

@@pistonburner6448 Go drive a new one. As far as: adaptive headlights (software update coming to enable these in the matrix headlight cars), night vision (don't need it), adjustable suspension (standard in the Performance Model 3), station wagon option (very very few makers offer this), physical buttons (fair, but moot), enough stalks (fair), good quality (much better than before), any customizability (not sure what this means). Does the Model 3 even offer ventilated seats, is that now available (standard on all Model 3 models now).

[@eugenux]

the appreciation is good and well but, personally, I would like to see a critical discussion about the cars, using arguments. (indeed though, the video is one if the best(if not the best) from this year, at least)

[@TyreeKingHomeTours]

ABSOLUTELY!

[@eedoamitay3341]

lmao that throttle house scene with Randy having PTSD was amazing, damn that got me good

[@_que]

Wow, heavy but good reminder of the hill climb incident with Randy. Awesome editing amazing show, totally agree, multi car approach than one car does it all, as the compromise with just one car is crazy heft. Just add lightness one said...

[@randypobstofficial]

And it was real - I thought, is this car gonna cancel the brakes and send me through the desert, like the pre-Performance model did a few years ago? Well no, seemed to work great! I just ignored the over-sensitive brake heat warnings 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JhaveriAakash]

I'm new to this channel. What's the context?

[@szotakandrei]

​@@JhaveriAakash watch the throttle house review It's literally in there. Brakes gave up within the first lap

[@pinkyandbrain123]

@@randypobstofficialthanks for having your answer here. And thanks so much for yours and Jason’s work. Much love from the other side of the big pond.

[@Cosmonaughty_]

I didn't expect the price difference to be that enormous, they really put it into perspective. The prices are wiiiiild, dude

[@BMWROYAL]

That g80 is fully option with an individual frozen paint, you can buy rwd one new for 75k, plus keep in mind one is a luxury car with a much better interior and more features, if your looking of the best bang for the buck, I don’t think either of them are the best option

[@robertide5182]

@@BMWROYAL M3 Competition xDrive starts at $30,000 more than the Model 3 Performance. Why would you compare to the RWD version? It won't perform as well. They also have different features and the new Model 3 is extremely nice inside.

[@G82Watts]

​@@robertide5182still no where near the level of a bmw dude. Lmao. U guys said the same thing for the old model 3 and justified everything. Now all the sudden the issues are widely said and the new one is so much better. If tesla had that bmw interior u guys would be glazing tf out of it.

[@walidoutaleb7121]

@@BMWROYAL how does the m3 have more feature than the model3? plus the interior quality are really not that far off.

[@BMWROYAL]

@@walidoutaleb7121 drift analyzer, having a heads up display, have two separate displays, hand gesture controls, adaptive headlights that turn in the direction you are going in. Surround view parking camera where it stitches the cameras to make it seem like your looking from out side the car, I’m pretty sure there are more, these are just off the top of my head

[@bimalnair5243]

I think after watching maybe thousands of car reviews... This is the best I've ever seen. On any channel!

[@chiggedycheckyoself]

I’d pay good money to watch a complete behind the scenes video to see how they put these together. Anything from scripting, camera setup, editing, color grading, and so on. The production value of these videos is just amazing.

[@alexmosley2558]

Love the throttle house Crossover! hagerty and throttle house are easily the two bests and basically only car channels I continue to watch

[@ppjvn]

@9:03

[@redlion145]

I don't dislike them. But that's like limiting yourself to Fox and MSNBC - there are lots of other sources out there. For cars, I like The Smoking Tire, Out of Spec, The Straight Pipes, and the occasional Doug Demuro video as well. Even a bad opinion can offer a learning experience.

[@Qual3n]

@@redlion145 that's why teirs exist.

[@dre32pitt]

add Savage Geese to your lineup

[@censoredialogue]

Hagerty, Throttle House, and Savagegeese are truly the 3 best car review channels on the internet

[@or9118]

Once again, Hagerty made another cinematic masterpiece

[@randypobstofficial]

Really domes look great, doesn’t it? So happy to be a small part of this show

[@Hagerty]

Wouldn't be the same without you Randy!

[@theheadone]

The throttle house cameo was awesome! haha

[@mediocreman2]

That's not a cameo. A cameos when someone famous actually appears in the film. In this case, the youtube video they recorded was being played in the background. So not a cameo, but still a nice touch!

[@deepakdongre7712]

Hagerty’s comparison videos aren't just about pumping out content for KZbin-they’re more like mini movies! Every comparison feels cinematic, crafted with passion and precision. Hats off to the incredible team behind the scenes!

[@james_rangihika]

You are the best car reviewer. Period. This is the new Top Gear, but much much better.

[@ravocean]

What an absolute masterpiece of production these series are. Theres no way they're making more money from KZbin than what they spent on this video, but their reputation is growing exponentially. Thanks Hagerty!

[@randypobstofficial]

Thanks @Ravocean , the production and editing people do an amazing job!

[@mcunha81]

Considering how ridiculously expensive those Perellis are,its a laugh that it was the only weak point of the M3P. Would be interesting to see both cars back with exact same tires,and see how close the laps would be. Great video guys ❤😊

[@Line-vw5io]

M3 comes in Europe with Michelin, I think the S5. Especially developed for the M3. They worked 3y on that tire.

[@BlazeFirereign]

@@Line-vw5io Not the Performance, sadly. I think it comes on the same Pirellis as North American market Model 3s. I *hope* I'm wrong, as I have one on the way, and I'd rather have Michelins than Pirellis. But Michelin don't show anything that's Tesla OE for the rear sizing. (The updated Performance has a staggered setup, 235/35R20 front - same as the pre-refresh - but 275/30R20 at the back.) Michelin *used* to be the OE. Some years back, the European Model 3 shipped on the PS4 for the standard 18"s, and PS4S for the performance's 20".

[@klikar1982]

@@Line-vw5io no, mine is on pirelli p zero

[@G82Watts]

Still would of lost. 1 lap around a 1 min track doesn't say much now once u saw the endurance test and multiple laps that says alot about how they perform on track. Tesla was A MILE behind.

[@paulopereira6996]

The weight difference matters in tyre performance. M3 weight is all full, adding to the difference.

[@bioduntube]

Jason is the closest thing to watching the good old top gear. Well-done guys

[@daveyjones777]

@@bioduntube without the stupid childish theatrics like driving through RVs.

[@mbclk65amg]

@@daveyjones777 I'd say you sound fun to hang around with at parties, but you'd have to be invited first. Silly things are fun, live a little.

[@houssamalucad753]

It definitely puts the same smile on our faces, and that's all that matters.

[@TheDCJason]

Unpopular opinion: Thomas and James from Throttle House and Jason are better than Top Gear.

[@randypobstofficial]

I agree - he’s got so much knowledge and great delivery - and opinions. Oh yes, strong views and states them 💪

[@12bluex]

Randy is the nicest, down to earth, hall of famer you'll ever meet. Got to see him at Miata Reunion at Sonoma couple of weeks ago when Randy drove up in a lime green M4.

[@LegoSM737]

So…this is basically Icons, Ultimate Drag Race Replay, Ultimate Lap Battle, and Head to Head combined with Jason and Randy? I’m in heaven…

[@andrewm5840]

Jason calls out the feelings vs facts debacle. Also love the full frontal nature of this ep. Breath of fresh air

[@flyingphoenix113]

It seems like a fairly pointless section. Performance cars are a purely emotional purchase. They are less efficient, more expensive to insure and operate, less comfortable, etc. Trying to subject a fundamentally emotional decision to the rigors of logic is precisely why Jason continually fails to understand the car community's broad disdain for EV performance cars.

[@Kammandier]

a car to sum is an emotional purchase. Otherwise buggatti wouldnt be in business

[@G82Watts]

Tesla cult fans are the biggest nerds ever. Jason hit the nail on the head in his podcast

[@alsa4real]

@flyingphoenix113 then why would they be delighted by the fact that u can get a Miata and a GR86 for the price of the M3 competition if they're not enjoyers of the ICE sports car experience? If they didn't understand the charm of ICE sports cars, why would they say that other purpose built sports cars would be as exciting as the M3 competition on a backroad at half the speed?

[@ChosenMJ]

I​ love how people want to put there shortcomings on others. Emotional car buyers are just what dealerships are looking for, another sucker that will overpay for an already overpriced hunk of metal. Not happening here.

[@addickland5656]

@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="792">13:12</a> Wait, WHAT!! Both of these are faster than a Ferrari 458?! My God cars really have come a long way since the days of 458's Top Gear fame! Deep respect to both BMW and Tesla for bringing supercar performance from a decade ago within a normal functional family car today, that's insane.

[@3rdworldgarage450]

Not only that, but. Civic Type R was only a tenth off the 458 as well. Goes to show how overrated the prancing horse really is

[@mitchell-wallisforce7859]

@@3rdworldgarage450 Eeeeh. How much of that is down to the insane performance of modern tires, though? The 458 was working with Pirellis whose spec is now a decade old, so one wonders how much that time would come down with new Pilot Sport 4S tires on. This doesn't make the BMW, Tesla, or CTR _less_ impressive, but still.

[@KTMcaptain]

@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 but by that logic the M3P and M3 carbon had the same lap time because they were identical until the M3P’s tires degraded. Maybe the M3P would have been faster with the same tires. Ultimately I agree with you but it’s difficult to have a track time leader board when technology and dynamics change with every passing test. Maybe they can do a benchmark car where they lap it with every tire and provide a coefficient to the time for a tire corrected leaderboard.

[@AnonymousPerson-h5z]

a 2023 civic type r is also faster . And a better car all around than any tesla .

[@TheBCninja]

​@KTMcaptain The tires degraded because the Tesla weighs the same as a semi truck 😂 if it was on the BMWs compound it would have destroyed the beemer in the first half and then degraded way, way faster.

[@WizardSoon]

Hahahaa Randy's acting in the model 3 to Throttle house video is awesome

[@randypobstofficial]

Acting? 😉 Thx 😊

[@thomprd]

@@randypobstofficial Awesome.

[@Twin.motors]

I thought It was more of them calling out the fake anti Tesla propaganda throttle house did. They called it dangerous but in reality.. it's track ready and brakes are perfectly fine

[@chrisoconnell8432]

@@Twin.motors I don't think it was anti Tesla propaganda. The endurance mode used in this video came out after the Throttle House video came out, prob in response to the video.

[@hakus5240]

This is the only channel I watch at fullscreen mode on PC. And that says something.

[@zonapainter]

Jason's videos are like watching an Academy Award winning documentary. The production quality is absolutely amazing. Adding Randy to the mix just puts it over the top. Bravo gentlemen, bravo!

[@joseroldan9247]

Automotive journalism at its finest and nice nod to Throttle House! Keep up the great work Randy, Jason, and team Hagerty!

[@newtechgs7471]

The end of this is crazy. That price difference is insane

[@alanmay7929]

no its not! and the bmw is almost a 200mph car with the same power as the tesla thats just one key aspect, now tune the bmw and youre gone even crazier.

[@siddharthgoyal4008]

@@alanmay7929 so basically spend more money, void the warranty on your already expensive car. Yeah, I can see why BMW sales are down.

[@G82Watts]

@@siddharthgoyal4008 bmw sales are down? Also have u ever heard of a piggyback tune? Bmw sales have skyrocketed. "Ben Hardy bmw vs mercedes" or look up the top 15 selling car brands 2024. Bmw is the only luxury brand in the top 15. Oh and tesla is behind bmw.

[@dubnr3d]

@@G82Watts did you tell someone to look something up without looking it up yourself? Everything you said is completely wrong. Tesla sold twice as many cars last quarter in the US than BMW did.

[@hershil12]

@@siddharthgoyal4008 thats why you wait until warranty is done and then enjoy your beast to a whole new level :) x3m comp owner here.

[@ColtCapperrune]

Quite possibly the best video to date. The push and pull of the story, very well written!

[@Mexxx65]

Underrated comment

[@georgekappland2935]

Dammit Randy!!! You always crack me up. And Jason... Every time I go "I'm not going to like this", I like it. Great videos, entertaining dialogue, and please never stop driving! Plus, I love the nod to TH, those guys are rad!

[@mattdavidholmes2509]

This is one of the best show’s and KZbin video’s I’ve seen in so long. So amazing to see Jason and Randy back at it with NOT H2H. 🎉

[@alanwinston6512]

"Hope we don't get sued" after that sequenced wheel turn and tread2tread label was hysterical. 😂

[@calvinallan2208]

Well I'll see you guys in another 2 months 😅

[@nastystew6942]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cosmins3268]

@@calvinallan2208 quality over quantity

[@G82Watts]

@@calvinallan2208 id rather someone other then Jason review these comparisons. Bmw won every sports car category and that's the title of the video. It clearly should be the winner. I'd be happy if they re titled it too "cheapest way to ALMOST own a bmw m3" then the winner would make sense

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@G82Watts Tesla is the better all around car, period. Keep coping.

[@tereyagiz775]

@@G82Wattsbro said, Jason did not pick my m3 so he should not review cars anymore 🤣🤣 I guess the religion joke went over your head

[@jameshuegli3534]

This conclusion is hilarious because I’m literally buying a M3P with the plans to get a Miata for the weekend.

[@tealchief]

Get some sway bars, tires, and an alignment, they are a hoot.

[@Kev27RS]

The Model 3 Performance looks better than the M3 to be honest!

[@papa_pt]

damn solid combo

[@Lost_In_LA]

My dream duo as well

[@stevemartegani]

Perfect 2 car garage

[@tiagocoelho7415]

How the f..hell am I watching this for free?

[@_que]

Please get Hagerty insurance

[@JoshuaTootell]

If something is free, you are the product.

[@servissop151]

@@JoshuaTootell Honestly, not the case. Applies to youtube as a platform, sure, but Hagerty is otherwise gaining no money from me. I'm not a car owner, let alone insured to Hagerty, or even in their area of business. I am watching this for "free" as I am watching anything else on social media for "free"

[@mediocreman2]

Well, you're not.

[@georgepal9154]

Just starting the video. I can feel this is gonna rile people up and I'm here for it. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="179">2:59</a> oh my god that was hilarious I have finished the video and I think this might be your best one yet, Jason. The endurance test with the layering was awesome. I love how much work goes in to these.

[@xbxb]

Thank god, this channel exists. I'm tired of Tech KZbinrs pretending to know a car.

[@tenka__]

I can't be the only to be able to appreciate both cars. Both are marvels of engineering in their own right, and though their uses and target audiences may differ, I dare to say they both are just as capable to deliver joy to their drivers. For me, the M3 feels like a sports car (I know, I know, sports sedan, but anyways) that is surprisingly capable for daily driving. While the Tesla feels like an excellent daily driver that is surprisingly capable on a track. But for the price, I do agree with Jason that I would get the Tesla, Miata and GR86 instead of just the BMW. Gotta say, this channel's production is through the roof! It's like watching hollywood level quality about cars with fantastic narration. Gotta love the humor too (I burst out laughing at the Mac startup sound for Tesla charging). Special shoutout to your music guy, the score was so engaging and made the whole video more immersive.

[@07BSPtC]

I do as well. Had an 8y rs3 switched to a highland model 3 performance.

[@Kev27RS]

The Model 3 Performance looks better to be honest! Still not a fan of the massive front end of the M3…

[@dougrobinson8602]

The beauty of it is that you don't have to be able to afford an M3 P. Very few people have the wherewithal to afford such a beast, let alone maintain it. I did notice the Toyota Supra was nearly equal to the Model 3 Performance in lap time. Still, it's way more money than the Model 3. Give Tesla credit for building a car an enthusiast can appreciate, just bring back the turn signal stalk, or make it an option.

[@carsonj4031]

exactly, I don't know why cars have become some weird political issue. why cant people just like fun and fast cars?

[@ganymede6535]

​@@carsonj4031real. Like you dont have to like certain cars but that doesnt mean you're less of a man because you drive this rather than that

[@Bradlydee]

I just smiled when i saw a notification that Cammisa just posted a video😭👌

[@sudeeptaghosh]

He is something

[@c208captain]

more fun than going to the movies

[@LearningFast]

Pretty crazy that you can buy two of the Model 3 Performance cars for the same price as a fully loaded M3 Competition.

[@bjornar9026]

It depends on what market you're buying in.

[@mocheen4837]

I have a Model 3 Performance, Model Y Performance and a BMW M3. I am just missing a Porsche 911 S on the shopping list.

[@blackthunderty]

@@mocheen4837 Hey there brother, mind sharing 1k for the poorest of the poorest over here 😭🙏

[@omichaelnato5388]

@@mocheen4837 dang what’s the uses for all these ? Def need a turbo s.

[@mstegs5477]

I've had my Tesla M3P for 2 month now. Coming from 5 years with a BMW m240i I have to say, this Tesla is amazing. As a daily driver I couldn't be more happy. It's stupid quick in a straight line too. 10.88 @126 1/4 mile and 2.97 sec 0-60 at 95% SOC. For 49k out the door with 1.99% interest, it's a steal!

[@bryceellery]

Like owning a fast honda

[@mstegs5477]

@@bryceellery Exactly. Only difference is that I don't have to overnight parts from Japan to make it a 10 sec car :P

[@Areku06]

@@bryceelleryexcept it has instant toque and much better looking than any civic.

[@PapiAndrey]

@@Areku06I disagree, i think the current gen CTR looks better than the M3P. That said, you really can’t beat the proposition of the M3P. I think Tesla greatly improved it with the facelift

[@robertphan8751]

I just can’t picture the future of formula one racing in all electric cars. I can see it now, whether you are at the race or view live on tv, you can hear crickets.

[@Inferno45]

Please bring Johnny back to this show like the good old days at motor trend. Just Jason, Jonny and Randy

[@LG-ct8tw]

Randy is really getting into it. Bring him back please!

[@dammyo6010]

I feel like I should be paying for this. The fact that I can just watch this for free seems almost criminal. Thank you for being a reprieve from other automotive outlets that seemed to have lost their mind!

[@randypobstofficial]

Thank you. I’m biased, but these really seem like the best car shows on the Internet.

[@AngelValdovinos]

You aren't watching for free

[@Car_Tism]

Easily the best automotive journalists on KZbin, hands down. Those shots fired at Throttle House!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 THANK YOU for voicing everything I was thinking about their review! They’re great guys, but glad Randy proved Thomas wrong

[@GohanKanor]

viewing one of Jason's videos is like to viewing a documentary that won an Academy Award. The level of production quality is simply astounding. Including Randy just makes it more extravagant. Bravo, gentlemen! Well done!

[@ethan999oz]

Jason's videos are the only ones that I won't skip while watching. It's a shame that there are people who keep accusing him of being biased one way or the other when he clearly does his upmost to be as objective as humanly possible. Car enthusiasts went from being the absolute best group of people whom you'd ever interact with to people I actively try to avoid because of how toxic they've become. I really hope they don't ruin this for Jason like they have for me. It would be a huge loss for the car community.

[@alanwinston6512]

Dude, I completely agree. One of the reasons I became a car guy and a mechanic was because of those old school car guys, but that generation has sadly disappeared and been replaced by the real house wives of lifetime drama and I've never wanted out of the motorpool more. How dare anyone be objective and honest and have fun doing it.

[@wisruteb]

The Model 3 Performance has indeed come a long way. A quick test drive really shows how good the adaptive suspension really is. The ventilated seats are perfect for the hot days, and it sure is more than fast enough. The problem is cars like the M3 are dying, and if you want one, now it’s the time to buy. The Model 3 Performance? It’ll only get better from here.

[@Kev27RS]

The Model 3 Performance looks better to be honest!

[@AnonymousPerson-h5z]

cars like the model 3 are dying , cars like the civic type r have been here for 50 years and are here to stay .

[@toadpickle]

@@AnonymousPerson-h5zthe cope is unreal 🫵😹

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@AnonymousPerson-h5z Repeat it a few more times. Maybe, just maybe you'll actually believe it. LMFAO SMH

[@SupraSav]

EV sales are on the decline 😂 Corporations are slaves to the dollar. People don't want EVs! Not in their current state!

[@layne4376]

It really is incredible now that the Model 3 Performance gives you M3 performance at an M340 price (actually cheaper). Maybe it is time to trade the M340 in.

[@Kev27RS]

The Model 3 Performance looks better to be honest!

[@Ignacio.Romero]

@@Kev27RS Why are you replying that to every comment

[@Beamer_i4_M50]

@@Ignacio.Romero Tesla Fanboy.

[@peterhammer6915]

How does the Model 3 give you M3 performance? It lost a lot in one lap and a lightyear in 15 minutes. Straightline it is fast no doubt but as soon as there are corners, you are way slower in the Model 3.

[@ganymede6535]

It was mostly the tires that screwed the M3P not to mention it weights more​@@peterhammer6915

[@Miggy2j]

The production is next level! Love the tesla cheque gag as well 😂

[@mikeponath3696]

You two ROCK! Love that you are still doing what we all want to watch!

[@michaellossau1681]

I know that the comparison was on factory spec, but I'd like to see the track comparison on equal tires. The M3 might still lap quicker, but the difference might be less. Also, for purely academic reasons, it would be interesting to see how many laps the Tesla could go in its top performance mode, versus its endurance mode.

[@dr.z8378]

Please continue this series FOREVER!!!!!❤❤❤

[@OrionFH]

This just shows you what incredible things are possible with todays cars, whether it's electric or ICE

[@Corvolet5]

I agree. The new Model 3 has become surprisingly good, just too bad the rest of the world has a 50 hp decrease in power for the Perf.

[@OrionFH]

@@Corvolet5 Yep getting the low power one here in Germany. It's crazy, I bought a 2019 Model 3 used recently and it charges so much faster compared to the 2023 Model 3 from a friend of mine. U.S. vs. China battery ;)

[@Corvolet5]

@OrionFH Ah, fellow German. Funny. I have a bias for diesel cars, but I can see why people like the Performance. Even if I like my consistent fast Autobahn rides.

[@OrionFH]

​@@Corvolet5 Agree, it's personal preference. Going fast consistently is not the strength of EVs, although the Tesla's range at 130/140 kph is hard to beat in EV world

[@Corvolet5]

@OrionFH Honestly anything below 150 feels slow to me 😄 but yeah, 130-140 is good enough for long commutes.

[@ARCNA442]

The single best ICE vs EV comparison in the entire automotive journalism world. You busted a lot of myths with this one. (and I can't wait to see the Miata vs 86 "Tread to Tread" that is definitely coming)

[@RobColbert]

This isn't some of the best car content on KZbin. It's THE best car content on KZbin. Advanced storytelling, enough science, exactly full documentation of the cars doing what they do, and a level of intelligence you just don't get elsewhere. Hosts have real credentials. Production crew second to none. Job well done.

[@Lost_In_LA]

This video deserves an Emmy. The production, writing, humor, well delivered lines, and best of all-the detailed analysis-is superb. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. 👏👏👏👏👏

[@brandongrenier1141]

You guys have THE BEST overall car videos and it's not even close. Funny, high quality, and fair

[@randypobstofficial]

I agree, Brandon. Special car videos. The best

[@OliverMcGill]

Amazing video team! The cinematography in the mountains was breathtaking, felt like I was watching a Bond movie.

[@heitorpergher]

This is so good, that if you recorded everything on GoPro I would still watch it and like it.

[@MohdSaud-bz9tw]

every time you people blow me away.. I think the best part is that every video has it own unique flavor.. grt job guyzzzzzzz

[@simeonsoldier]

This show is so underrated. Needs much more appreciation!

[@haoyanglin5974]

The production quality is off the charts, gotta be the best automotive journalism right now.

[@_que]

Motortrend who... JC was the core and they didn't know it...

[@povertyvoyager]

Jason camissa, an absolute joy to watch, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

[@dansecord383]

Jason, thank you for continuing your journalism path. I may be the minority watching this, as I'm neither a Tesla nor current M3 fan boy. But I will always nerd out on automotive tech and progress. Despite my brain-gasim on the tech, my preference is old light and analog 🤷‍♂️.

[@Gallardo6669]

Tesla for me forever, 1000 reasons, 2nd on order. Great video, thx.

[@raysonviswas]

Honestly, I want you guys to put the best tyres on the stock rims. If I really cared about speed, I'd go and get the best tyres, which is what I did in all my cars.

[@daveyjones777]

Yes, I kept hoping that they would put the same tires on the Tesla because if they’re gonna say you can buy two more cars, you could certainly say you could buy some better tires

[@andreww2927]

I feel like there was a missed opportunity here, one that may have discredited my other favourite car channel. How long would the brakes have lasted if the Tesla were in full attack mode?

[@Johnmartins648]

Just got my M3P two days ago. It’s the f’ing deal of the century. Such an upgrade over the previous generation for those who are still currently in the previous model. It’s basically a completely different car imo.

[@wendystacos7447]

This was an awesome video. Production quality and writing are off the charts

[@hathersage]

THIS is yet another example of well thought out and well produced video. Exceptional balance between objectivity and subjectivity, while entertainment value is maintained throughout with humor, wit, and insight. Putting it all together at the end, it presents the value behind each purchase while leaving it to what is really at the end of the day - a personal decision. Superb video, just superb.

[@wcmontana]

You two are at the apogee of what you do, -Professional, well-informed, smart & fun. Bravo!

[@Qkazam]

The Model 3 Performance is very underrated especially considering its price! And that’s not even including the tax deduction

[@Kevin-hp5fk]

Assuming you don't enjoy things like build quality, ride quality, after sales service or servicability then yeah, very underrated. -EDIT: Love the weird Tesla fan boys. I had a model 3 as a company car, piece of crap. Spent a few weeks with a refreshed model, still a piece of crap. Go from a 3 into another car in a similar price and the difference is night and day.

[@Skeetskeet333]

@@Kevin-hp5fkreally? I got one and the build quality is actually really good now. They really stepped it up..I’ve used service once for a minor issue, and they came to my house to fix it. Seemed easy peasy. Oh and the ride quality with the active dampers is a huge difference. But I agree the pre 2024’s were horrible in all those accounts

[@runany1]

@@Kevin-hp5fkas others have said build quality is so much better I drove a LR AWD Model 3 and was shocked at ride quality and build. Super fancy no but unreal Smooth.

[@AngelValdovinos]

​@@Kevin-hp5fktoyota lexus, world renowned services, dynamic infrastructure, iconic development, reputable, consistency, quality, reliability, comfort, luxury, plethora of features, first in class safety, efficiency, practicality, held value, price, market access, rarity, soul, emotion, takumi craftsmenship, LEAN management, Kaizen Philosophy 👑 Try again.

[@DieterMaier-r6k]

Model 3 Performance is an absolute stunner!

[@joetacchino4470]

I have owned both of these cars (well, the previous generation Model 3 Performance). I've driven the new Highland Model 3. It is much better car. I haven't driven the performance yet. I currently own a G80 Comp xDrive. This review nails it pretty well. You can claw back some of the price difference by not opting for the carbon buckets or ceramic brakes. Neither of which is necessary if you're not going to track your car. Like me. The base seats are quite good for back road hooning and MUCH easier to live with on a daily basis. The infotainment question....yes, iDrive is convoluted, but it gets easier to use with time. Tesla's UI is much, MUCH better but it has infuriating (truly) traits like requiring auto high beams to run Autopilot (which act like they are drunk), camera based auto wipers (which also act drunk), the idiotic lack of a turn signal stalk, no carplay or android auto (tesla's UI absolutely SUCKS for messaging) and other irritations which add up over time. Like streaming radio services that drop out and glitch, etc. And while the whole "the M3 steering is numb and I wouldn't get out of bed on a sunday morning to drive it" trope has some truth to it, the fact is, unless you've got a bunch of dedicated cars in the garage for just that purpose, the M3 gets your blood going just fine on a Sunday morning. The AWD system, even on full, still allows the tail to be happy. And re-coding the steering with the calibration from the M3 CS increases steering feel ENORMOUSLY. And it's a lot more fun to hear the engine pull through the gears, even when I know it's not as efficient or as practical. I had a 997 Turbo S and the Model 3 performance. So I had that "horses for courses" thing that Jason mentions. But you know what? I got tired of driving my Model 3 and looking at 911 sitting in the garage. So I bought one car to replace them both. Model 3: super, super impressive. M3 still wins.

[@Essential_OS]

@@joetacchino4470 well said, but people are different, hence why different cars exist, for me with all respect to what you said and experienced, the M3P still wins, I haven't driven the new M3P as well but if the improvements they talk about is this extensive then I'm all in for the new M3P over M3, I haven't driven the competition version but I didn't like the M3 and how it felt like in general. Plus I never used the infotainment for messaging or even playing around with it while driving (Maybe I'm just too careful😄) but it didn't annoy me, no stalks thing at first was weired, but I like it now, muscle memory made it ok for me to use the buttons just fine but still the indicator placement is dumb. I'm gonna save my gas money for my supercars for the weekend😂

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

I really think Jason just panders to the tesla cult fans that rage at him when their car loses. The title of the video is seeing what car is better at being a sports car. Bmw won every single category.. braking,handling, sound, interior, performance ,etc... all of which makes the better sports car. But losses becuase of price? They should re title the video to say " If ur broke and need some performance get a model 3" 😂

[@chrxx4327]

​@@PEACEOUTXX1no I agree with Jason's take. A cheap light weight japanese sports car is more fun to drive than the m3. The Tesla is a better daily, when you consider what your money can get you it seems that the Tesla and a dedicated cheap sports car are the best value😊

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

@chrxx4327 u might wanna rewatch the video. Jason said the m3 comp was more fun to drive then the tesla. It literally won in every sports car category. The tesla won in Jason's subjective pandering which was daily driving. I'd look more forward to driving a m3 comp everyday cruising around then a tesla. Price is the only real reason to choose the tesla. The bmw m3 won being a better sports car and the numbers backing it. Which Jason even admitted. He at no point said the model 3 was more fun to drive.

[@chrxx4327]

@@PEACEOUTXX1 how old are you guys? Re read what I said you completely missed the plot

[@born1n0z]

Good point about the price… but some people only have 1 spot to park their car. And remember then you have to keep all of them insured, registered them, clean them, make sure you drive the little track car so the battery doesn’t go flat (or keep it on a trickle charge… or remove the battery when not driving). Plus… have you tried telling your partner that you are buying 2 more cars to “muck around in”? It’s not that practical to have three cars (trust me). If you can afford an all-rounder… buy the all-rounder.

[@seanr928docs7]

As others have said, this quality, entertainment, and journalistic enjoyment of the two of these guys together is epic. Keep this up guys, awesome content. One of the best car reviews I’ve watched.

[@michaelcarretero2713]

Format and having Randy properly in the video just great!

[@earlmacmullin4688]

I can't wait to watch the Carmudgeon episode about this + the comments post release... A-1 production quality & amazing hosts. Great job all involved!!

[@alberto.roldan]

What a masterpiece, congrats to everyone involved in the production!

[@FlatironsTuning]

Been looking forward to this video! I current Model 3 Performance driver that came from driving an E90 335i (I am also a Subaru guy for context), I love this video. Great testing and really compelling conclusions. I will just say that I have in fact gotten up early to take the M3P up into the mountains, and I don't think that the turn signal buttons on the wheel are that bad when you get used to them. I need to play with Drift Mode and Endurance mode apparently. I just wish tires weren't so darn expensive... Love these videos!

[@ARCNA442]

The turn signal stalk argument always strikes me as weird. Sure it's less familiar, and I haven't actually driven a Tesla to see how they work in practice, but it seems to me that having your turn signal indicators rotate with your hands rather than being fixed to the steering column would be a good thing. You don't see anyone claiming column mounted paddle shifters are better than wheel mounted paddle shifters after all.

[@fvpaquetqc]

Man those two having a conversation in the m3 is some good content

[@curtisdickson6277]

Im just going to say this. As of 2024 hagerty got the best car content on you tube. These vids are platinum quality. S tier content.

[@BananaChipzzz]

Another absolute masterpiece of a video. Randy and Jason are gold. Also, do a collab with Throttle House..

[@beyondthispoint5557]

Please. Pretty please. Would begging help?

[@XXfea]

This is the way - You are the modern incarnation of L.J.K. Setright - The FINEST highest production value automotive journalism ON THE PLANET. Congratulations. "Drive On!

[@randypobstofficial]

I so enjoyed LJK Setright, too 👍 Yes, Jason is amazing

[@amaldev4150]

Words can't express how much fun it's to watch Jason and Randy together, It's an extremely well made video. Thanks a lot Hagerty, Jason and everyone involved making this video.

[@daddyfixit6549]

That Model 3 is pretty impressive.

[@mr_jdes]

Say that in 3 years time.. 😉

[@sl1nk3]

@@mr_jdes what do you mean? I have a 2022 so a bit more than 3 years old now and everyone still thinks it's brand new, other than tires I haven't had to do a thing.

[@Areku06]

@@mr_jdesmine is 6 years old and still zero maintenance, love my model 3, while my bmw 335i needed thousands in maintenance.

[@mr_jdes]

@ what year was the 335i..? You Should have gone F80 M3, definitely more fun than a model 3 washing machine 😉😂

[@Areku06]

@ it was 2014 f30 chassis similar to f80, f80 m3 is also a money pit after 60-80k miles, crank hub that can spin, oil/ coolant leaks, injectors. I rather take my appliance model 3, it’s more fun than you think, with no headaches. I’d take model 3P over f80 m3 any day.

[@Areku06]

Great comparison, probably best model 3 P vs m3 comparison to date, great job.

[@cobaltlukather9045]

this feels so much like the old Head2Head stuff Motortrend had out and i am absolutely here for it, this is great

[@ourkaravan]

Consistent high quality you guys. As a gas, diesel and EV owner, I have to say my Tesla is one of my favorite cars I've ever owned, and I love the near-zero maintenance.

[@octacore9976]

The end is literally me haha. Tesla M3 RWDLR and a NC3 Miata

[@duduoson1306]

I felt like I was watching a modern Hollywood production but with a more engaging script, better casting, less propaganda, and real stunts instead of CGI.

[@FerRod2113]

It’s crazy how far cars have came. I remember watching head 2 head and getting my 2015 Mustang GT premium and it being a seriously quick car. 0-60 in 4.4 seconds and a 1/4 mile of 12.6 @113mph. This is with my testing at Fontana speedway. But all these new cars would leave me in the dust aha. It’s just incredible what 10 years does for performance cars.

[@rockervdrive]

Had to stop getting ready for work for this one. Another amazing episode!

[@sinoevc]

To be honest, that green BMW is simply too cool

[@thebarkingmouse]

I have an m3p. Raced a bit when I was young. Did a rally driving course and folksracing in Finland. Road course in the USA. My biggest criticism of the m3p are the brakes. They fade spooky fast. Other than that, handles great! Slight rear bias. Goes like the clappers. If i were to actually track it, I'd upgrade the brakes and rotors and find a way to duct air from the front to the front disks directly.

[@alangil40]

If you were young when you raced it, you must still be young. Coming from a 58-year-old - I was young in the 80s and 90s and definitely no m3ps back then.

[@thebarkingmouse]

@alangil40 I didn't say I raced the m3p. I raced cars when I was young. Late 80's early 90's. The best car I raced was a 968 stripped out for weight.

[@alangil40]

@@thebarkingmouse Got it now, misread at first. But that makes much more sense.

[@bambammartin1556]

This is one of the best written reviews since the hay day of top gear

[@wakjob961]

Gotta give Mr. Esposito his flowers here... nice work man!

[@matthewbailey1040]

Another great video by Haggerty. It’s nice to get an unbiased car review. It’s sucks that Tesla uses Perrelli Tires. It’s funny how they expose how completely dishonest throttle house was after nine laps in the M3P without the brakes overheating. Randy freaking out to Thomas’s anti-tesla rant then proving him a liar was hilarious

[@8ballphilc]

Great content! I daily a Tesla Model 3 Performance, but that doesn't mean that I don't appreciate what the M3 Competition is or will do. And if I had the disposable income for both, I would get the beemer too!

[@MrMara7hon]

Love a good Throttle House cameo!

[@filippxx]

Just great as usual from these two hosts. One other thing that was not mentioned and is always surprising to me is that BMW needed 40 years to get to this level of performance in a "daily driver" but Tesla is only at their second iteration of Model 3, practically 6 years. Add to this the massive price difference and it's obvious to anyone with a working brain that BMWs bussiness model is not going in the right direction: massively overpriced cars that will sell in lower and lower volumes because they address a smaller and smaller market: super rich that afford expensive toys.

[@pistolfied]

Tesla got to this performance level by poaching engineers and designers from other companies that already knew how to make a fast car - Tesla had the same 40 years of experience as BMW. I do agree that BMW has lost their way though - terrible afterthought manual transmissions, garbage piped in fake exhaust audio, and zero steering feel should never be part of "the ultimate driving experience". Cadillac has taken that crown from both Tesla and BMW surprisingly.

[@toolsforfools]

Keep in mind that BMW also sells EVs. Here in Germany BMW overtook already Tesla in sales of EV. So be careful with your predictions.

[@artifishul]

Cars are going to follow the same path as watches. BMW is going to need to become Rolex to survive. Price it very high, make it extremely luxurious, and the engine becomes a beautiful antique for enthusiasts to appreciate, just like the mechanical action in a watch.

[@toolsforfools]

@@artifishul Not sure about this. The car industry is over 100 years old and didn’t go in this direction. Also, BMW has broad portfolio of cars including. quite affordable ones (not M-cars). Even Tesla struggles to build a cheap Model, like a Model 1 or Model 2 bc. they earn now already less Margin than car makers like BMW.

[@artifishul]

@@toolsforfools Watches were around for hundreds of years before battery/quartz watches stepped onto the scene. Once that happened the mechanical watchmakers had no choice but to pivot. Of course that hasn't happened with cars yet, since there wasn't an alternative until now. Right now you can get a superior Tesla for half the cost of the BMW, and electric cars just keep getting cheaper.

[@kingofallmen1]

Randy is my favorite driver. He's a rolling science lab. He's a badass. Well-made video guys!

[@dontyouworryaboutit_]

“say M3 three times and Randy appears” lmao

[@gunsandcommissions]

Impressive writing and production. THANK YOU for getting outside the automotive journalism box that everyone else operates within.

[@randypobstofficial]

Thank you, gotta agree!

[@rashkamanning8171]

I will personally always take the gas car because I love the noise. You can’t put a burble tune on a Model 3. However the Model 3 is the clear winner. As always Jason and the team bring us quality! I love every episode and I hope to see the Carmudgen podcast talk about the episode as well

[@randypobstofficial]

Thx a mill! Yep, the noise is an important factor.

[@Hdog56-o1f]

That is very subjective, totally depends on the driver. I’ve been a sports car freak all my life owning and modding VW’s as a kid and then Porsche’s and BMW’s as I got older. Now that Im 55, I prefer the powerful yet quietness of the Tesla over the BMW any day. Loud exhausts, Pops and crackles are especially annoying!!!

[@oregonoverlandadventures2015]

Great video! Would've liked to see the track time of the Model 3 Performance with a Michelin spec tire. Bet the times would've been a lot closer

[@TheTurboadict]

The day these 2 leave I'm leaving with them. Best videos hands down

[@BeatonLS6]

Incredible perspective at the end. I'd have the Model 3 Long Range, A GR86 track car, and a ton of cash in my pocket over the M3.

[@plamenkostov1301]

Absolutely and anyway Tesla 3 Performance makes little sense given that you cannot go for a Sunday 3 hour drive due to overheating and not enough range.

[@bimeroknew4119]

@@plamenkostov1301🤦

[@logitech4873]

@@plamenkostov1301 That's completely false lol. Of course you can. You can go on a 6-7 hour drive without charging.

[@plamenkostov1301]

@@logitech4873 I guess we have a different idea of what driving is, but enjoy

[@logitech4873]

@@plamenkostov1301 No driving on public roads will ever overheat a tesla, unless you're being extremely reckless - in which case you shouldn't have a license.