"NEW" Umarex KOMPLETE "Full Review

[@WalnutandSteel]

I would love to see someone come up with a way to connect a standard pcp tank to this so it could be used with regular compressed air too.

[@joeanon5788]

But that would undermine the sales of $25 two packs of nitro-air. I bought 2 Barra 1100z rifles and 2 $30 scopes, and they perform just as well as these Komplete rifles at 50 yards. Barra's were $200 each, and have an adjustable regulator "spring hammer." For varmints, I use H$N Heavy slugs (38 gr) and at 850 FPS it delivers around 60+ FT-LBS of energy. Quite adequate for small game. I love blowing up 1/2 gallon plastic milk jugs at 60 yds. Sploooosh!!! Red dye in the water make a great effect!!

[@WalnutandSteel]

I do like my 1100z!

[@claudhenrysmoot7957]

Check out the Umarex Iconix-- same price range and its a PCP.

[@joeanon5788]

@@WalnutandSteel Ahh so you know...cool

[@WalnutandSteel]

Yes I have dozens of PCP’s already

[@chaplainsoffice6907]

Great review, my Komplete in .22 is the most fun air gun I've had since I started shooting in 1958. Power and one hole groups at hunting range is outstanding.

[@UmarexAir]

We're humbled. Thank you.

[@TCat-ve9qi]

Before i got my Crown, i really debated getting a bigger pcp bottle gun. I was always a hand pump guy. If this would of been around then, I would of went with it. Great pcp style gun, without the headaches for the more relaxed shooter/hunter.

[@Lirointhemist]

It would be interesting to see Nitro-Air technology in replica pistols or competition air pistols.

[@williamarmstrong392]

A nice gun and a great review !

[@joeanon5788]

For inquiring minds, a 2-pack goes for $25. I think these could be incorporated into say a .40 - .50 cal home defense pistol. Maybe 6 - 8 shots and a preloaded, pre charged "magazine" system for quick reloading. Needs to be in the 100 Ft-Lbs range. Similar performance of a civil war era cap and ball revolver. 55 grains at 900 FPS renders 99 Ft-Lbs.

[@177caliber]

My favorite air gun channel. Excellent review!!!

[@pepek42]

Looks very interesting, but the cost per shot is bad in the long run. I assume they patented it so they will control the price? If others could make those at scale, it would be a nice alternative to co2 that sucks at lower temperature.

[@AirgunDetectives]

They need an optional refillable tank then you get the best of both worlds!

[@kevanhubbard9673]

Other than air and CO2 various gases have been experimented with to power air guns .Feron was another gas tried but it is generally illegal to use now due to its role in Ozone Layer damage.Another take on Nitrogen is in pistons instead of a spring.

[@YDCFF_]

Thanks for another great review JC. Other than the scope, my biggest negative is the price of the cartridges. As much as i shoot, I'd pay for a compressor in no time using those. On another note, the Beeman Commander was my 1st unregulated PCP. Hundreds of rounds later, I found a decent hammer spring adjustment and what it likes best. We have had hurricanes, cyclones etc, so i was unable to shoot much. Here are my results from the tune H&N 14.6, 994 FPS, 32.04 FPE Gamo 15.42, 972 FPS, 32.32 FPE 21 grain slug, 861 FPS, 34.6 FPE (It likes these the best) 23 grain slug: 845 FPS, 36.48 FPE. For under $300 I love this rifle. That tune is working well for all of those weights.

[@nlmeireles5109]

OlaJC, interesting concept and perhaps a good solution for very, very occasional shooters. Otherwise it's going to get expensive very quickly. Cost per shot is too high in my opinion. Well done and have a great weekend my friend. Cheers

[@AirgunDetectives]

I agree Luis. If this concept got popular, someone could come out with a screw-in tank that has a Foster fitting which could be refilled. then you have both options. Have a great weekend!

[@claudhenrysmoot7957]

This really is a great airgun for people who aren't PCP shooters-- which to the PCP crowd is a category of people who don't exist. When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. This is a truly unique product will outperform the box-store springer and doesn't require a pump that costs more than your rifle and scope in order to operate. For an occaional shooter, do the math on that. You've got to shoot a lot to justify even a "cheap" $500 pump. Good job, Umarex!

[@numbr1hatrrrr]

I paid like 220 on Amazon …

[@alfonsogonzalez2099]

I love this!!! This vs the gamo swarm magnum gen 2 which has more power

[@cornellgarland1182]

the only thing i would want is, just like everyone else is saying, have a way to put a tank on. also i would like to see longer canisters for the price, at least four inches longer.

[@twolak1972]

Damn for 200 bucks you can't complain. I'm getting one. The squirrels are gonna catch hell next year. 😊

[@MisterBaker5]

Cool review and gun. I wonder if it will ever come to NZ and then be classed as a PCP (and CO2 isn't)...

[@Double-xposure]

Hey JC guess what I'm drinking my favorite whiskey & watching Airgun detective ❤

[@AirgunDetectives]

Outstanding! I really appreciate your support and thank you for leaving comments!

[@Waggies97]

So roughly 35 cents a shot with pellets and the canisters, about as expensive as cheap 9mm kind of painful for an air gun of that caliber in the long run

[@AirgunDetectives]

True, but you can't shoot the 9mm in your backyard. An optional refillable tank would be the answer. then you would have both options.

[@kitcarson7572]

I figured it up out of curiosity. To shoot a 500 tin of H and N Field Target Trophy 14.66 would cost 125 bucks plus the pellets at appox .04 each so 20 bucks and shipping on pellets and cartridges most likely another 20 bucks......so for one tin of pellets it looks like 165 bucks.........whew!!! One of those portable small compressors looks pretty good at these prices. This is an air rifle for someone who wants an accurate air rifle for elimination of yard and garden pests and does not shoot much at targets or for hunting as even squirrel hunting 10 shots is all you need. If they come out with an optional fillable air tank, I will buy one that same day. I really like light and easy to carry rifles for hunting. Cheers Kit

[@bushwhookie1334]

​​​@@kitcarson7572 yeah i had 3 compressors $300 each one last 1yr 2 months other two not even 6 months.. if just using it for hunting season it would be worth it. Spend $50 a month or every three months buy the cylinders which is 4 cylinders save them till hunting season. Don't have to worry about compressors not working. You can put 2,3,5,10 cylinders in your backpack if you want.. but I have heard they are making refillable cylinders the same size

[@bushwhookie1334]

Just get crosman ultra mag pellets 500 for $8

[@playbender3957]

Love the rifle, tip, academy has the 2 pack for $19.99. Only feedback I have is don’t get anything stuck in the barrel, I removed every possible piece apart trying to remove it with no success, the suppressor also seems permanently fixed. Few thing easy to fix on version 2.0. If there is a way to remove please do tell. Other than that the rifle is a solid 8/10.

[@UmarexAir]

Ooph. Sorry to hear this. Early on, using pellets, we shot one with one tank until it just wouldn't shoot anymore. .22 caliber. It got 78 shots total before there wasn't enough air to make it function. Pellet still came out on that last shot. 77th shot was 231 fps. Just FYI. Thanks for the suggestions.

[@brorjordas1979]

For "200 bucks".. I'd buy one. Just hoping to see them DIYers making a tank adapter for this one.

[@locksmithsilva1163]

Want to thank you sending te Hatsan information. I got my Verlox fixed.

[@BoggWeasel]

Not entirely sure it's a great idea. Granted there's the power over C02 and it's cheap to buy, but.. the nitrous is expensive. 40 good shots for $10 ? That's 25 cents a shot plus cost of pellet that's about four times the cost of .22 rimfire at current prices, about 6 to7 cents a round. I didn't want to get into PCP mainly because of the expense and equipment needed to make it work, so I bought a Co2 rifle (up until then I'd only used springers) to get the feel of a zero recoil multi shot rifle. It doesn't have the power of a PCP, but it was accurate and of course zero recoil and affordable to shoot at less than $1 a Co2 cartridge for 40+ shots and it did open me up to the possibility of upgrading to a PCP. So how many times are you going to use the Umarex before deciding to buy a PCP ? I can't imagine it would take long to rack up over $100 in nitrous cartridges, that's half the cost of a cheap compressor. For the cost of the rifle and nitrous used learning how to shoot it, to me it makes more sense economically to go for a PCP, as the the more times you use it, the investment in the pump makes it worth while long term, The price of the nitrous is a deal breaker. Personally, I wouldn't recommend this gun to anybody unless they had deep pockets and didn't care how much they spend on air gunning, and IMHO, this could be the BetaMax of the air gun world (ref for them old enough to remember VCRs, VHS and BetaMax 😁)

[@dockweilerrefugee6679]

Thank you for this video. Gun is not for me, but interesting none the less.

[@JASONBLOOD-v1r]

It would help when you look through the scope to open up the other end which is shut

[@LeviAirRifleChronicles]

I get the concept, it's for those in the middle of CO2 and thinking of going PCP. But the Velociraptor Claw trigger ?

[@AirgunDetectives]

Actually, the trigger is quite nice, especially for the price point of the rifle. But you are right, this is limited in the use until they come out with an optional refillable bottle. Have a great weekend.

[@gumbystown]

Definitely original But a definite way to make you dependent on their nitrogen bottles it's like buying a Ferrari and only be able to run Ferrari gas where do you get Ferrari gas right? I imagine those probably selling and not getting shot very much. The whole premise from owning a PCP is to get a compressor and be Air independent oh and if you look really close to that moderator it's the exact same one on your xisico sentry 705-9k JC keep up the videos👍.

[@AirgunDetectives]

I totally agree. they need to come up with an optional refillable tank. Have a great weekend!

[@stevel105]

Great Video and Nice Shooting. One thing I was wandering on when u went from the Accuracy shooting to the plinking was it with the Same Nitro or did u change out to a new one?

[@wickedstigma]

What scope are you using or which one you recommend?

[@jimashby43]

Can these be stored with the canister partially filled?

[@joedokes8641]

Yes..

[@greg4161]

It's a great rifle, but I'd have to agree with the majority of others . If you're going to target shoot with the umarex on a regular basis, it's going to get pretty expensive in short order

[@johnvesper989]

Exactly! $25 for 80-100 shots gets pricy, pretty fast. They need a conversion kit to change it into a true pcp, for those that decide that they like pcps.

[@chaplainsoffice6907]

​@@johnvesper989 That would defeat the purpose of having a weekend survive air rifle without dragging tanks or pumping your yourself into a coma.

[@johnvesper989]

@@chaplainsoffice6907 By the time that you've got 4 tins of pellets through it, you've spent enough to have purchased a low-end electric compressor. As for "Survival," Any airgun is just downright silly. Even a .22 rimfire would be preferable, and lots cheaper to feed. Buyers of this gun will put about 2 tins of pellets through it, at the cost of about $120 for N2, then, when it comes time to order more gas, ask themselves, "And I just have $100 bucks worth of fun?

[@timmy4539]

It's not a bad gun, but to me, it's a novelty gun . It's not something you'd use every day ..

[@mary0224]

Agreed !

[@AirgunDetectives]

Yes, as setup there would ne a limited use. To solve that, Umarex should come out with a tank that screws in but is refillable. Then there would be options.

[@brorjordas1979]

​@@AirgunDetectivesYou could add a fill nipple into the rear of an empty nitro cartridge. Such things done successfully to empty 88g co2 cartridges even. That'd be the easiest route - since the rifle being regulated. Not gonna make this into a competition of dare though. But I would not wonder someone actually doing it and seeing it thru...😁😁😁

[@donwilson350]

You know, really it's not a bad deal. But it $20 a box that can add up pretty quick, just buy the J. TS standard air rifle and get you a $100 pamp, and you would be golden. And in the long run, you would save money and you would still have a good gun. It might not be regulated but you know it shoots good in And very accurate

[@bushwhookie1334]

Use it for hunting only?? If so just spend $50 every two months get 4 cylinders every two months till hunting season. Crosman ultra mag work good i get them for $8 500 pellets tractor supply. I had 3 compressors $300 each two didn't last 6 months one lasted 1yr 2 months

[@MichaelWhite-cx4ho]

My apologies if this was covered in the video and I missed it, but can you leave the nitrogen canister pierced and in the rifle for long periods of time?

[@AirgunDetectives]

You can leave the bottle in the rifle. Personally, I wouldn't leave it for more than 6 months, it may damage the seal by keeping it compressed, but then again, the seal could probably be replaced, when it wears out for a few $. Thank you for tuning in and I appreciate you leaving comments. Have a great weekend!

[@MichaelWhite-cx4ho]

Thank you very much for your videos and for your response to my question regarding how long you might leave this rifle charged with a nitrogen powerlet. It is an interesting setup for the reasons you hilighted; the performance of a PCP without requiring the pump equipment. Good FPS, FPE, and dB numbers also. Again, your contributions to the knowledge base regarding airgunning, not to mention many other ventures I am sure, will echo throughout eternity.​@@AirgunDetectives

[@douglasldn2831]

Too bad they don’t make an air cylinder adapter for it

[@AirgunDetectives]

I totally agree with you! That may be an option in the near future?

[@GR-cf4qh]

Once you figure in the price of pellets, shipping and taxes you're looking at about 30 cents a shot. For me, that's too much to shoot .22 pellets. I suppose that if all you want is a cheap PCP for pest control and very occasional plinking that that might be acceptable, but it's not something I'm interested in. Then you have to figure that these nitro packs might not be around 5 years from now, so this might end up being a rifle that you either can't shoot or will require some sort of adaptor to shoot.

[@AirgunDetectives]

Yes, I agree, this has a limited use until they come out with an optional refillable bottle. Have a great weekend!

[@brorjordas1979]

Sweet!

[@AirgunDetectives]

Different, but a limited use as it is setup. I would suggest a refillable tank as an option.

[@brorjordas1979]

​@@AirgunDetectives Yea. My very first reaction to this new thingie was kinda on the negative side at first. But, I kinda now grown into this one. Not a bad product to be designed and manufactured. Dunno if I'd personally buy one (especially when I doubt it'd be "200 bucks" anymore in my country..😂😂) - but it really is a one neat rifle for sure. It did not though take long to get to see the first video of just air attached to this rifle (I think it was a tethered setup, bit still). Could be made some parallel ASA connector block into the threads of this one, so that it'd get the ASA connector lowered down for the use of a thicker tank with a regulator (and just not only of them tube model air cylinders, which might be even without a regulator).. Will see what tomorrow brings, eventually. But something like this surely is gonna get some airtank mods for sure. 😁 I am at least now just happy that something new like this got made into production and onto the market for anyone interested.. I'd though probably instead invest on a compressor myself - which has lately again gotten on my mind, after my last repair on my hand pump...😁😁🤣 Btw.. Didn't you have a Vevor compressor - and it being pretty inexpensive even? If so - is it still running okay?

[@kenh3015]

What type /model scope are you using that you put on for upgrade?

[@stevenhorney7735]

Grrat review and interesting concept. It would be nice if thoae canisters were refillable; that would cut the cost way down and remove worries about cannister supply.

[@ricjona1069]

What are your thoughts on a new rat hunter using this with a thermal sight?

[@UmarexAir]

If you go for it, share your results! We went on a pack rat hunt in KS with the Komplete, but in daytime. Great success.

[@FEboats]

I’d buy it if it could work as a normal pcp so I can continue to use it when they discontinue the product. As far as expensive pumps? A hand pump on Amazon cost about $10 more than those 2 cylinders that end up in the trash can. No thanks Umarex.

[@AirgunDetectives]

They need an optional refillable tank!

[@Kryptokeeper9]

Kinda think that is where they are wanting make all the $$$ selling the air canisters. Trying to bridge the market between co2 people who want more power but not the rest of the investment and equipment associated with pcp.

[@edmusick7794]

HAM is pushing the Komplete pretty hard, lol. He just recently posted an article about running it with 88/90gram CO2 cylinders. I just don't see a major market for this rifle. Unless, as you said, they offer a refillable cylinder for it, I don't think seasoned airgunners will buy it.

[@BrettBaker-uk4te]

Honestly, I think the target market is people who want to try PCP airguns but don't want to mess around with pumps. Which is bigger than we think.

[@arachnoyes]

Should have tested as it is sold.

[@locksmithsilva1163]

Can you make it into a pcp?

[@AirgunDetectives]

That's my suggestion, come out with a refillable bottle as an accessory. Have a great weekend!

[@locksmithsilva1163]

@@AirgunDetectives that’ll be great idea.

[@jasonnealey8325]

My prediction for this riffle isnt good , for PCP shooters its unattractive as it doenst really offer any advantages for new to airgun shooters availability and cost of the cylinders would be a concern. If they really want to be innovative using Helium as the propellant gas might snag a few PCP shooters . The gun would have to be designed for it but it os possible and if folks arent familiar with the experiments done with Helium as a gas propellant you should check it out, in my opinion that is still the cutting edge of unexplored airgun power .

[@rickcap5180]

This review has made me question your integrity of future and now, past reviews. I like Umerx products but this is a real money grab for the company and anyone who gives it a good review. The honest recommendation to a beginner is one of the $200 ish PCP rifles out there and a $50 pump. This gun will be discontinued soon and good luck finding the cartridges once that happens. $10 per 40 shots ????? Come on JC

[@jonasaras]

As a PCP owner I have no interest in yet another way to get air into a gun

[@robertbushey7656]

Been through this, these weapons never have lived up to all the manufacturers promises.

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

Will not be successful here in Europe i think .not on the market here yet like the crosman 3622 .to expensive .will cost 30%/50% more here then in the usa.greetings from 🇳🇱🇳🇱

[@joedokes8641]

AHHH.......no thanks . Eliminate the middle man and purchase a break barrel or multi pump or even a budget PCP . Cost to much to shoot . Makes no sense .

[@gumbystown]

If I do the math which I'm not very good at...🧐 it looks like it would probably take 12 of nitrogen bottles to shoot a 1/500 count tin of pellets it's going to cost you $120 to buy that much nitrogen just to shoot one "TIN" of pellets.🫨

[@heathhalfhill6867]

My thoughts exactly. Shooting Airguns is supposed to be cheap shooting. 500 rounds costing 120$ is anything but what an air rifle should cost to shoot. That’s powder burner ammo prices there. Even a .22LR is a fraction of the cost to shoot in comparison.

[@AirgunDetectives]

Yep, they need to make a refillable tankas an option.