New US Dietary Guidelines Say Go Vegan?

[@theveganvillainess]

Dairy is not a food group and should be removed entirely.

[@cainen6355]

"Oh mr guide line approver, could you please make atomic waste a food group? We have so much of it, it has to go somewhere right??"

[@christopherstein2024]

Whether it's necessary to have or not, how is diary not a group of food?

[@mermers1982_]

Canada has removed it... Hope you guys do too 🙂

[@cainen6355]

@@christopherstein2024 How is it a food group when it's just cow breast milk. It's just one secretion of an animal and it's just added because culture and the industry that produces it. Kidney beans aren't a food group either. Legumes are. Imagine an actual food group for breast milk, like "bodily juices".

[@jannacoyote4246]

@@christopherstein2024 Well, for one thing, a “diary” is a book, a journal, that you write your daily activities, thoughts, and/or dreams in. I don’t know why you would want to eat that. Sorry about that. I just had to. 😉💜😉 But, on a more serious note, animal milks are more poison than food to adult humans. Even human babies are by far better off with human breast milk than milk from other animals. 🤷🏻‍♀️💜🌱☮️🌱💜🤷🏻‍♂️

[@cheryoyster1768]

The guidelines should have no industry funding and should be independent. Your humor is amazing

[@davidthescottishvegan]

100% agree the food industries shouldn't have any influence over official government dietary guidelines.

[@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837]

Good point. "Industry-funded health guidelines" is comedy (of the dark variety).

[@LordOfDhara]

Maybe In a country where industry doesn't control everythingn

[@stevebuss69]

If that were the case red meat and organs would be 60% of the recommended daily intake.

[@dustinmartinsen2932]

@@stevebuss69 I'm confused. Why do you say that? The evidence is very much against animal products for health.

[@CaseyBurnsInvesting]

Poor dietary guidelines are a form of murder, don’t @ me.

[@michaellopez-lq5fn]

Murder is bad, but torture is in my opinion WAY worse. Murder is over fast usually, at least no continued suffering. Repressive guidelines suppress your full expression of your human potential as well as that of your kids.

[@iwonasutton2336]

michael lopez , very well said..., thank you...

[@drunkvegangal8089]

@Snow White Although I have a living will, and special instructions regarding a vegan diet if I become mentally incapacitated, my private nightmare is 'future me', in a long-term care facility, unknowingly eating meat and milk daily. I'm sure I'd still reject eggs (never could stand the smell and taste) but the meat and milk gives me chills. Anyone know what to do to ensure I never live this personal nightmare?

[@shawndarling5855]

@@drunkvegangal8089 Put it in the living will that you are a vegan and even in the end of life stage your beliefs should be respected

[@EricTitansSmith]

@@drunkvegangal8089 stay vegan and maintain your fitness to give yourself as good a chance as possible to live on your own terms, even into your elderly years.

[@RiikkaIivanainen]

Did you notice that all others are more like food groups (vegetables, grains), but then it says "protein foods"? Why doesn't it say carbohydrate foods? It is interesting how the obsession with protein is visible even here. Btw that's why I like Dr. Greger's Daily Dozen, it focuses on the foods to eat not the nutrients. It is a lot more practical and easier to memorize in my opinion.

[@Johny40Se7en]

Yep, the old "animal meat is manly" brainwashing is still lingering around like dirty cling ons to a fat man's arse 😆😂

[@israelarteaga4385]

Humans are omnivores. The Mediterranean diet (originated in Spain, Italy, and Greece) is considered very healthy and is not vegan.

[@vegan.enlightenment]

Yeah, i am so tired about “the protein” as being such a special category. Unbelievable! Does anyone know about someone being protein deficient? I haven’t heard about it.

[@Johny40Se7en]

@@vegan.enlightenment That's another pathetic argument. But you can always just flip it back on the bell ends who ask that, just ask them where they get their fibre. When they say veg or beans, tell them that they've just answered their own question 😆😝😜

[@vegan.enlightenment]

@@Johny40Se7en exactly ;)

[@Ecosia]

Hi Mike, great channel! Is that an Ecosia shirt you're wearing there 👀If so, thanks for helping us plant 20 extra trees with that 🙃🌳

[@ElliottK865]

Someone once told me, “I tried almond milk and it was nasty.” I asked, “Was it Almond Breeze?” “Yeah, how did you know?”

[@englishetiquette5183]

Kirkland one at costco is pretty horrible too🤣🤣🤣 I poured it out and it was like half a cup milk watered down in a full bottle

[@AndreaAvila78]

I've been a vegetarian practically all my life and I'm a new vegan. I started in Veganuary 2020. I've recently started eating more soy products and I am hooked on soy milk! I can't believe I didn't find it sooner! I love this channel, you've helped me and informed me so much! Thank you.

[@JoanKSX]

Right? Wow I found another soy milk lover here =D Literally I'm soy binge eater XD I eat literally all soy products, but I have not try out natto yet. I heard it is pretty disgusting but well who knows I'll love it once I have try it XD

[@AnimeLuver0604]

@@JoanKSX I've heard natto is similar to tempeh just with the slimy texture of okra

[@JoanKSX]

@@AnimeLuver0604 Ok, great! I might like it =D I think I like Tempeh especially the dish with a lot of chilli flakes. Yummy =P And I'm okra binge eater XD

[@stevebuss69]

For 99.9% of the humans evolution we got most of our calories from mostly red meat, organs, and animal fat . Agree or disagree ?

[@Ryan-fy8bx]

How did you just find soy, it’s everywhere. Just saying…

[@calebwhitfield5566]

I appreciate the amount of effort and time put into these videos. They are extremely informational and pleasant to watch. Thanks for the dedication.

[@adorable3817]

I feel the same 😁🙏 I look forward to his videos

[@calebwhitfield5566]

@@adorable3817 Definitely! I'm glad we can both enjoy and learn from them. Hope you have a great day!

[@MictheVegan]

Thanks so much Caleb.

[@Eyeseeyou-jg5mc]

@@MictheVegan ​ NEW WORLD ORDER and GREAT RESET diet

[@stevebuss69]

@@MictheVegan For 99.9% of the humans evolution we got most of our calories from mostly red meat, organs, and animal fat Agree or disagree ?

[@gordonbooth3881]

When I ate meat every day, I had blood work done and Dr found me to be anemic. Eat more meat was the answer. Instead went vegan to see what would happen in the follow up. Dr found blood tests were really good and asked what I did for quick recovery. Said I went vegan and thought I was joking. Decade later still vegan! Obvious now animal foods was destroying me!! Thanks again for your hard work.

[@emmathomas6184]

The problem is that most people don't know what foods have cholesterol. I can't tell you how many people told me that eggs are good for cholesterol 🙄

[@ojk14325b]

@Black Sperm plants

[@missoats8731]

@broccoli He will tell you that peoples cells are made out of cholesterol and therefore he thinks it must be a good idea to ingest dietary cholesterol, which obviously doesn't logically follow and is not backed up by science in any way 😂 He most likely also thinks you have to eat hair to have hair. But that's just an assumption.

[@ojk14325b]

@Black Sperm Edible plants aren't indigestible you nerd, otherwise nothing would eat them. You ate a whole lot of disinformation though. Enjoy your arachidonic acid

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@Black Sperm "And now check any plant ( which is indigestible) and not to mention precursers are shit. What would be healthier and sustain YOUR life? {When eating eggs) You are eating litterally raw amino acids, fatty acids, vitimins, minerals" The same is true for eating plants. I don't know the RDAs for eggs off the top of my head, but spinach is more nutrient dense than beef liver and kale is more nutrient dense than sirloin steak. Plant foods also have fiber and hundreds of phytonutrients animal foods lack, and have, on average, 64 times as much antioxidant punch as animal foods. Plant foods also DON'T have the various compounds animal foods have that ramp up rates of disease when compared to eating whole plant foods. "Its obvious you are not made out of indigestible, cooked plants" Actually, given that I've been eating a vegan diet for eight years and lots of of my cells have been replaced in the last eight years, the current me largely WAS made out of plants. Take care.

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@Black Sperm We already know who lives longest--populations who eat lots of plants. Mortality rises with higher animal food consumption and lower consumption of whole plant foods.

[@80slimshadys]

I see A future where it's common to know that vegans are healthier in general

[@80slimshadys]

@Pacman McGavin "it is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

[@80slimshadys]

@Pacman McGavin 👍

[@veganryori]

"Imagine trying to get three cups of soy in a day" *me, drinking my soy tea, eating my soy breakfast, thinking about my soy matcha latte later* haha yes. Ridiculous. Ha. Err... SOY IS JOY OK?! 😂🙈

[@MictheVegan]

Ha yeah I guess it isn't that hard, but are they all fortified to spec? 😛

[@jannacoyote4246]

What is “soy tea”?? I haven’t heard of that before. 😯❓🍵❓😯

[@Jilleyful]

"Soy is Joy!" I love that!! I also get a lot of soy in a day. Soy milk in my morning cereal, soy milk in my coffee and/or hot chocolate, tofu scramble... Mmm soy....

[@katiehemstreet8939]

Haha! Tofu is ❤! 😂

[@2paranoid2think]

@@jannacoyote4246 probably just tea with soy milk added. I enjoy chai tea of all different flavors. They're delicious with some spice to it and very tasty with plant milk, like a chai latte

[@combustible-lemons2241]

very interesting, overall a step in the right direction but still a long way to go! if only there was a way to get rid of all that lobbying influence and have the USDA establish nutritional guidelines solely based on evidence. maybe someday

[@MrTrevisco]

A long way to go and not enough time to wait, five more years of delay with these recommendations unless people ignore to go further.

[@anu.3663]

sadly pretty much everything in the US is affected by lobbying ;-;

[@jannacoyote4246]

Yeah. Once we finally get money removed from politics - that’ll be the day. There are those, in our government now, who are working on this with their/our allies. 😉💜🌱☮️🌱💜☺️

[@chantelpaiement3876]

I was a Anemic all my life until I went plant based and now my blood levels are perfect! I feel like people who have low iron on a vegan diet are not eating enough greens!?!?!

[@thecaptain8624]

Ripple Pea milk is pretty awesome. Its fortified with B12 and Calcium, has a good amount of protein and, if I'm not mistaken, uses less water than soy milk

[@helicart]

I just filled in the myplate quiz. I responded I do fortified soy products most days. When I got the quiz result, it said "You may need some help in dairy". LOL. they could only say this if soy products are not equal to dairy products.

[@dhunter8286]

If they've got you talking a quiz why wouldn't they just use something like cronometer to tell you what you're actually deficient in? They could still translate it back into food or "food group" recommendations.

[@helicart]

@@dhunter8286 Unfortunately, the dietary guidelines and related spin offs are created by a committee, that doesn't rely on satisfied customers. The govt doesn't care what the consumer thinks. They care what the 'stakeholders' think. Obviously the boffins who created the quiz are not nutrition scientists, and follow dietary advice that's 20 years old. If they actually followed the science, then thousands of government school meal programs would have to be revised at great cost and embarrassment.

[@MictheVegan]

I wonder if it is our of date or if it is designed to get people to slurp down that cow teet more. 🤔

[@georgiahancock782]

I took the quiz and said that I eat "protein foods" including beans and tofu 6+ times a week (the maximum) and it still said I needed help in protein foods, I'm guessing since I marked yes to being "vegetarian". It's really pathetic that they're giving this information to people when in reality if you measured how much they're getting it would likely be more than enough.

[@helicart]

@@georgiahancock782 LOL. Yet another reason not to trust government.

[@nekochadechu]

It's a bit sad they put soy as the biggest alternative to animal products, it could put people who don't like soy or are allergic to it away from adopting a vegan diet

[@emmathomas6184]

This is very true! In contrast, I think we tout beans more in Canada as an alternative, but I could be wrong 🤔

[@langreeves6419]

Yes, plus soy is usually in the form of meat substitutes. Many think we need to have an alternative to meat, even though we don't need meat in the first place. Just need to include beans, nuts and seeds in our diet.

[@Johny40Se7en]

Couldn't agree more. There's so many lush healthy plant milks out there these days. Oat, rice and hazelnut being some of the other stunning examples 😋😊

[@AnimeLuver0604]

@@langreeves6419 that would mean having to cook, which is a snag in and of itself.

[@yoursnotmine1996]

I think it's because soy milk is the most similar, nutritionally, to cow's milk e.g. it has the most protein out of all the plant milks.

[@ramonac6426]

In the last 2 years I spoke to two retired dairy farmers. Neither ate dairy products ! Both suffered from lactose intolerance. One of them informed all of us, at a birthday party, that he never consumed milk when he had his dairy farm because he knew what was really in milk. I was surprised. His wife does consume dairy and has numerous issues, including a rare leukemia, fibromyalgia and mild heart issues. He only has a touch of osteoarthritis from years of physical labor. I remember him doing handsprings when he was in his 50's. Alcohol may have been involved lol.

[@groovecouple4644]

Nice unverifiable story bro! My family raised dairy in VA and SAW none of this...

[@drunkvegangal8089]

Wait. What? Alcohol. Hmmm....

[@ramonac6426]

@@drunkvegangal8089 Lol the man gets hyper when he has a beer or two....I personally have never attempted gymnastics when imbibed. I would probably break a bone.

[@andrewcavanagh3946]

Countries have been recommending milk for so long they seem stuck to including milk and milk replacements as part of dietary guidelines. It would make much more sense to emphasize the importance of eating adequate calcium with an emphasis on the healthiest sources of calcium like greens, celery, broccoli, and oranges.

[@charlesmartin7347]

It's okay kale , it's okay 🧐😆🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@caustichymnproductions]

The carcinogen balls look like some kind of gross fungal growth on the meal.

[@scubadiva666]

Unless told you they were Impossible™ Balls; then, you'd say, "M'm, m'm, good!"

[@theo5069]

@@scubadiva666 I never ate mammal meat in my life anyways so any meat substitute for cow/pig/chicken that is realistic disgusts me.

[@RippyTheGator]

I wish it was fungus 😉. If they were fungus I would be much more there for it. Mushrooms are delicious 😋... Unfortunately they are likely dead, animals 🤢.

[@AlexMonajemi]

baked potatoes, fried vegan food, cooking a starch with fat also have carcinogenic stuff. Yet vegans don't talk about that. Interesting

[@DiahRhiaJones]

They make that otherwise delicious looking meal look as if it is rotting (and technically it is rotten flesh).

[@ericnewcomer3031]

2020 guidelines. Please don't eat pangolins

[@ksitigarbha9787]

Don't eat anything which could breed a new strain of zoonautic disease. IE any animals

[@mikeskylark1594]

@@ksitigarbha9787 THAT

[@ksitigarbha9787]

@Rafael Santana they'll say ' KFC tho'

[@Pyriphlegeton]

The pangolin connection didn't pan out, as far as I know.

[@MictheVegan]

Shoulda been!

[@GothPopTV]

4:50 _“soy milk is nutritionally equivalent to cows milk”_ Yeah, that doesn’t sound like a “win“ for soy, as the negative health implications of cows milk are well documented... One of these days, WATER will finally replace all of these stupid beverages

[@ASOT666]

This doesn't mean that soy milk has the same adverse health effects. For instance, the nutrients: phosphorus, potassium, and b12 in dairy aren't the problem.

[@yoyobern6226]

Canada ditched the milk, replaced it with water. They did put cheese in the « protein » section along side legumes & beans

[@stephss]

Don't replace my tea!!

[@matthewroberts3909]

Theres no danger drinking RAW milk only pasturised

[@ASOT666]

@@matthewroberts3909 'No danger' - do you know why we pasteurize milk lol?

[@DivergentDroid]

Carbs are Plants. If you take away my Potatoes .. we gonna have Problems.

[@80slimshadys]

If you take away potatoes it won't be trump supporters invading the capitol i can tell you that much

[@DivergentDroid]

@@80slimshadys It wasn't Trump supporters invading the Capitol in the first place. It was Dems and Liberals who were pulling the strings for their corporate leaders who really run the country, getting their people to pose as Republicans to create the state of making Trump look bad so they can call for his impeachment. It's called a False Flag operation. Just like Antifa was created, just like Black Lives Matter was created. Trump supporters are for Truth and Non violence. They wouldn't do anything to hurt their sitting presidents reputation. In truth, there is No evidence Trump put anyone up to anything. There is also video of cops escorting antifa members in. I'm no Trump supporter because Trump is just as guilty of failing to protect this nation from the trans-humanist technocracy agenda that's taking over the country now and for that he should be impeached ( goes for Biden and company too) but Trump and his supporters did not do this thing they accuse him of. However I do agree about the Potatoes :-)

[@drunkvegangal8089]

@@DivergentDroid O..K... can you grow potatoes on a flat earth?

[@DivergentDroid]

@@drunkvegangal8089 Of course if Earth were Flat you could. You can grow potatoes in as little space as a 5 gallon bucket.

[@Tofu_va_Bien]

@@DivergentDroid Where is the evidence of this supposed Antifa presence at the Capitol building? I don't doubt that security/police etc. escorted them in - that I've seen with my own eyes. But given the widespread support for Trump amongst the police force I see it as far more likely for them to cooperate with fellow Trump supporters rather than their opponents.

[@elleoak390]

I want sweatshirts that say “as a vegan I’m triggered”

[@maraeaizar]

My iron, while never too low (it was borderline when I was omnivore, especially during my omni pregnancies), is better as a whole food vegan. It was better during my vegan pregnancy too vs during my omni pregnancies. I had OBs/midwives assume I'd be anemic because of my plant based diet... so I enjoyed their surprise when my iron levels were always great. I think it's because I eat way more healthy sources of iron, like whole grains, greens, and beans than I used to (plus way more vitamin C)!

[@kjullthedemon]

Hey, Mic. I love you. I went fully vegan January the first, to try and see if I could live like it (was vegetarian before). And while the first few days were awful, trying to figure out what to eat, because I was so used to using milk or cheese in most of my meals, as time went on, and I got smarter it became easier. I'll definitely stay vegan. Also side note, I had a strange dream, where I was hanging out with Mic, and we went to a resturant and I got fish, and put on a sushi costume and hopped around and clucked like a chicken, to show that fish are animals too. (unironically, what made me quit fish, cause on my "vegetarian" diet, I also ate fish.) So yes, thanks a lot for your videos.

[@spliter227]

boxed almond milks suck, it's like they hold all the almonds by a fan and point it at the water in the box for 5 seconds, boom almond breeze

[@flattlandermontgomery1524]

The body actually tries to regulate the amount of iron it absorbs. The reason why meat eaters have more over all iron is that the body can't regulate heme-iron. Heme-iron is automatically absorbed whether the body likes it or not. That is why it appears that plant based iron is less efficiently absorbed but the truth is the body absorbs what it needs form plants.

[@tinatominac429]

I'm first year student of food technology and in my uni we can take nutrition programme for masters. As a student I have access to all presentations so I looked through them to see what I might study in future. I am still shocked that with all other sources of omega3 they named only two things: eggs and meat enriched with omega 3 fatty acids.

[@dustinmartinsen2932]

That's a great point. How can you get as low cholesterol intake "as possible" without getting rid of animal products entirely? That is the lowest intake possible. Cholesterol is found in the lean tissues.

[@keepar]

I lost it at the coconut oil joke cx

[@broccolipropaganda]

Love your humor. It is frustrating how inconsistent they are, but at the same time, what can you expect if they are so married with the industry.

[@trackee2024]

Oh! I also wish they mentioned unsweetened soy milk. I can just foresee people going out and switching to vanilla soy milk and then getting health issues from the high sugar content and having these guidelines in the future change to "Soy milk causes obesity". 😩

[@KCwatchesTV]

Mic, you continue to astound me with your grounding in research AND how you keep up with important announcements like these. Going full WFPB has been challenging for me and I'm not where I want to be on that front, but your vids have definitely encouraged me to look at veganism from more of a health lens and to consider what it is I'm actually putting into my body...all of the oils, sugars, and hyper-processed junk in particular. Thanks!

[@mariusverwey2125]

Like the beard that trimmed...and the content. Keep it up mate!

[@serenaally]

Around September 2019 I had to write a paper in a government class and send it to a senator or government official and I chose to write about veganism and mental health to the department of agriculture lol. Not saying I may have made many good points to help sway this decision but... 😁💚 ~I live in United States btw~

[@kristiroy9363]

I love that I was force fed dairy my entire life despite it being confirmed by doctors that I was allergic to it. My bones would surely shatter if I stepped out into a light breeze without dairy. Phew. Screw my digestion, think of the bones. 😒

[@ratsword200]

Whole food plant based for 3 years, BMI 19.8 ish. Meat is factually not good for the environment or our health, we all know that here. But, most of American calories are from processed grains (read "enriched wheat flour" on nutrition labels), oils, and sugars. For improving obesity and general health, replacing white flour, NOT promoting oil as HEALTHY (good job Mike), and eliminating all processed sugars including honey, is just as important as reducing animal products. I know animals are cute but grains and fruits are our friends too.

[@Bigislandchef]

The 2020-2025 guidelines are an improvement and I don’t want good to be the enemy of great. But you can easily argue that the meat industry ploy of creating contradictions and confusion allows them to maintain their position. However, I do think that for the meat industry insiders, these guidelines are a shot across the bow. I hope this has them adjusting their future plans and products.

[@eyo397]

Damn, you're glowing! Looking super happy & healthy :)

[@WTFisMYname24]

Guys! Let's all make sure we do our activism right so come 2025 the guidelines will say definitely that animal products have to go bye bye :). This is our time!!

[@themountainsandthesea4121]

💓.

[@v.a.n.e.]

it may be worth emphasizing their recommendation "Infants and young children have virtually no room in their diet for added sugars" which seems quite reasonable.

[@syiridium703]

I like the "vegan diet is OK if you eat enough nutrients". Yes, because other diets are OK even if you don't eat enough nutrients? Like people are fine even if they only eat chicken nuggets, because they are not vegan? And it is harder to get the vegan diet right. On the contrary, it is so easy to get meat eating right, though. One slight problem with that thinking - why are there so many people with various deficiencies and food related health problems? Also, the dietary recommendations graph is missing stuff like lead, mercury and others, because people are getting those things under the recommended dose as well, not just dairy.

[@anarchy7741]

TRUTH

[@crowdofdissidents155]

Video suggestion: What is a normal cholesterol blood measurement for vegans who consume zero cholesterol? Maybe show some blood tests for a few vegans and compare? Thanks Mic

[@tofudoesntscream]

Dr. Ellsworth, who lived until 105, said under 140 is optional.

[@zamis769]

Mine was 95 mg/dL last blood test I had, been vegan for 5 years :)

[@MissJen27]

I feel like they were trying to make everyone happy. I mean it’s a win for plants, but still.

[@samanthaadioetomo5480]

yeah. i do think the FDA trying to make everyone happy-- including dairy and sugar lobbyists, beef industrt etc-- is part of the problem. instead of making the various parties happy, they should just focus on improving human and environmental health... 😁

[@abbycohen3726]

Oh the animal agriculture lobbies were allll over this, no doubt

[@jefflittle8913]

"I mean it’s a win for plants, but still." Maybe not. More of them are likely to be eaten.

[@stevebuss69]

For 99.9% of the humans evolution we got most of our calories from red meat, organs, and animal fat . Agree or disagree ?

[@veg0machine]

"i feel like" if they were going to try and make every one happy they would have fit the guidelines into a cute little triangle.

[@trackee2024]

Ugh, Iron and B12 are outdated vegan issues that largely don't exist anymore. Everything is fortified and there are vegan burgers with heme iron. I want to hear recommendations on more recent issues like Omega 3s and K3! There's no consensus around those yet.

[@annab5246]

Heme iron is only found in animal foods.

[@trackee2024]

@@annab5246 False. Check out the impossible burger.

[@annab5246]

@@trackee2024it's genetically modified from soy. They can call it anything they like, but It is not the same thing at all and will not have the same reactions in the body as natural heme iron. Also, soy protein inhibits iron absorption in the body.

[@trackee2024]

@@annab5246 I'm not sure your point, but either way - iron is a non-issue for vegans and has been put to bed mostly. It's super easy to get enough iron. I've always dealt with anemia throughout my life and my iron has been great since being a 12 year vegan eating tons of soy. Heme is also probably bad for you, so there's that.

[@chumauyamadu2053]

Saw an article on medical news today about the impact gut microbiota has on the severity of covid cases

[@elsadolan3962]

It really bugs me about all of the single digit anecdotes about people getting sick on a vegan diet versus all of the hundreds of thousands of people who don’t advertise their vegan lifestyle choices and therefore minor scare tactics are blown out of proportion. 😢

[@gallectee6032]

To me it's hilarious how industry is dictating dietary guidelines.

[@petermueller226]

It's vegan propaganda organizations like the "Physician's Commitee" who demanded the removal of dairy in the guidelines, because of "food racism" www.speciesunite.com/news-stories/doctors-urge-usda-to-remove-dairy-from-new-dietary-guidelines-over-food-racism

[@gallectee6032]

@@petermueller226 Yeah those terrible propaganda promoters. What's next? trying to get sugar removed? not on my watch.

[@petermueller226]

@@gallectee6032 Propaganda is propaganda no matter where it comes from and has nothing lost in dietary recommendations

[@gallectee6032]

@@petermueller226 Propaganda is bad.

[@zamis769]

the "dairy" category needs to be changed to "Calcium" or "Calcium & Magnesium" or something like that. We already have a "protein" section, so calling the category after the main nutritional component is not off. Because yeah, "dairy" is not a human requirement, the nutrients are and can be gained from other sources.

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

The USDA needs to move beyond the cow breastfeeding stage

[@themountainsandthesea4121]

Yes!👍

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

@@themountainsandthesea4121 ;-)

[@selenelopez5383]

So you telling me I’m no the only one that pets a kale for emotional confront?? 😂😅😂😅 great work!! I love you videos!!!

[@riceizlife]

Dairy and protein shouldn't even be food groups. One isn't even for humans and the other is a nutrient not a food group.

[@stephss]

"Biatch"....rotflmao. Your quips today are on point. I appreciate your silliness...ty, this was fun and informative.

[@ParadymShiftVegan]

Absolutely phenomenal content man. Thanks so much for sharing!! You're making an incredible difference in the world brother 💯🌱🌎♾️

[@jeanneamato8278]

Stop lobbyists and listen to Dr. Greger and Mike the Vegan. They will save us and the world.

[@flattlandermontgomery1524]

The only thing I use plant milk for is in my coffee, for cooking or very occasionally for cold oat cereal. Calcium is over recommended by the US. The World Health Organization recommends half the amount of calcium for people who have deficiency than the US recommends for people in general.

[@sarahann857]

Well, we are making baby steps in the right direction. They'll give-in eventually. Pretty big progress when you consider the fact that veganism only real became mainstream in the last 5 years.

[@thedebatehitman]

I knew that life would get better after 2020!

[@MsStack42]

Yeah ! Have a lovely civil war !

[@taylorn4934]

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[@VeganWellnessTribe]

Talking with someone in a comment section on Facebook and they want me to prove USDA said limit cholesterol and I remembered this video. Thank you so much

[@ninahkitten3236]

Really appreciate the cohesive overview of the guidelines!

[@igncahyo]

carcinogen balls... lol...

[@malenejensen2995]

If you subscribed to the newsletter about the new dietary guidelines, you received a reminder with a link to the release...😊 Denmark got new guidelines too on January 7 centered around health and climate. They were bold, center your diet on plants, they wrote out loud "decrease your intake of meat", 350 g of meat per week is appropriate! Thank you for breaking down the new American guidelines, I listened to some of the stream, when they were released, but it was difficult to interpret as a foreign. I have my final exam next week, studying to be registered clinical dietitian, and we will bring the new Danish guidelines up 🇩🇰

[@adorable3817]

*AWESOME* 🌞 Thank you for the great summary and for keeping us informed 🙏😁 (as soon as I find a job, I will donate money to you) 💙🌱🌍

[@firesoul453]

How does it compare to guidelines from other countries?

[@drunkvegangal8089]

Milk is no longer a 'food group' on Canada's Food Guide, it had been a food group since the inception of the guide and was still a group in the last publication (2007). Now it is lumped in with the "proteins" food group. food-guide.canada.ca/en/ Canada has a link to every food guide they ever published. Perhaps other Governments have such a site...? www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/canada-food-guide/about/history-food-guide.html#a1942 As a Type 1 diabetic I've watched the guide evolve since I was diagnosed in1981. Dietitians were always waving that publication in my face! They flipped when I went veggie in 1989 but were more tolerant when I went vegan in 2010-ish...slipped up on veganism 6 or 8 times for the first 2 years :D

[@missoats8731]

@@drunkvegangal8089 Canada wins big time. It might be because this time around the food guide was based solely on evidence and not the interests of lobby groups.

[@miguelespejel2462]

Not much difference at the end all guidelines agreed in general that a well balanced healthy omnivorous diet is the way to go. Yes they also agreed that a well planned vegan diet can work (with the exception of germany and Spain) but that doesn't mean that's their MAIN recommendation, this is where vegans are extremely dishonest claiming that science is totally when them when it is (partially) not nowhere in the world this diet has been put in front of a healthy omonivorous diet.

[@miguelespejel2462]

@@drunkvegangal8089 whatever. They still recommend a well balanced omonivorous diet,.that change in no way supports your ideology.

[@drunkvegangal8089]

@@miguelespejel2462 The worst trolls are those who cast aside another human beings emotions. Ethical beliefs are incredibly important to some humans - keep that in mind during the rest of your life. Judaism and Islam also restrict some animal foods so I am not alone.

[@corpsecandy2076]

"Americans and their oil". In more ways than one, I suppose.

[@MX-op7nf]

I thought I finished all the Soy milk, in the world. Glad to learn there is some left for everyone else.

[@sia1036]

innit 🤣

[@sia1036]

when we go to aldi my dad gets like 5 boxes of it and the cashier is just like 🤨

[@5375moli]

The ginger goatee is 🔥🔥🔥

[@katherine.zacheis]

It’s so annoying to live here.

[@cookiesnbubbles]

Great video. The new US dietary guidelines are full of frustrating contradictions. As a Canadian I am happy our most recent guidelines had way less industry influence

[@AmalieLynghaug]

I'll stick to Dr.Greger's Daily Dozen Guidelines ;) It is THE healthy diet in my and many others' opinions. This new US guideline is moving in the right direction and I hope that people can understand that they can ditch the dairy and meat. Hopefully, in 2025 they will make it more clear though. If not, people could ditch these guidelines and follow something like the Daily Dozen instead.

[@noticeddamian]

Look at the state of him😂two years older than me yet looks older than my dad.

[@AmalieLynghaug]

@@noticeddamian Indeed he does, but that is not because of the diet he is promoting now. It has also more to do with his priorities, I guess.

[@injunsun]

MIKE, perfecto. I prefer Kroger STO products versus Silk and others, because Kroger supplements with D2 and B12, for most products, and adds E and A in others. I use their soy and oat together to do protein complementarity, as well as adjust the sweetness and texture. Their almond has added E. I use them about half the month, and half ass it the rest of the time. My only deficiency ever has been D3, which wasnt because I wasn't getting enough D1 and D2, but because I tend to be a night owl, and sit inside too much during the day. Exposing my torso to the sun a few minutes daily, when I walk my dogs, has fixed that. Thank you for giving me so much ammo against rabid Omnis.

[@eelkeaptroot1393]

In a country where guidelines can't even get folks to wear seatbelts, I doubt people will take these dietary guidelines seriously even if they were actually healthy.

[@immaculateorganicsoaps3533]

I went from buying almond breeze to making flax seed beverage. I wasn't a big fan of milk, so my substitute beverage is used in cooking.

[@MayorBrownn]

“Keep Cholesterol as low as possible” continues to recommend eggs multiple times throughout the guidelines.

[@randomfactsguy1386]

Eggs have been proven to lower bad cholesterol and raise good cholesterol.

[@MayorBrownn]

@@randomfactsguy1386 lol

[@randomfactsguy1386]

@@MayorBrownn what are you laughing at? It's been proven in studies.

[@MayorBrownn]

@@randomfactsguy1386 let’s see them

[@siddhanthravichandran3245]

There are 2 types of cholesterol HDL and LDL.... Eggs have the good kind , HDL. Eggs are some of the most nutritious food known to man I do understand the ethical and environmental reasons for veganism... But health wise animals products are extremely good for you.

[@kendramarkworth6855]

How can they recommend literal carcinogens???

[@Isaax]

I have a lot of issues with this video but for now I would just like to ask what your source is on the carcinogens in the meat? To my knowledge, the carcinogens in the meat we consume are so low that they "[definitely don't correlate strongly with cancer in humans]", which I got from a video on the topic that looked at a study that tested how bad carcinogens in meat actually were. The way you keep talking about it makes it seem like a major problem, but I don't have a source that confidently says that I have to worry about eating meat due to cancer risk. On the contrary, (again, to my knowledge) I'd be much better off in terms of overall health and cancer to go on a carnivore diet / keto diet that lowers my insulin to prevent inflammation and the likes. The notion I get form the video that a vegan diet would be healthier is something that doesn't align with what I have learned, so I find your claims questionable

[@langreeves6419]

Dairy isn't something we need a substitute for. From plants, I get all the nutrients that dairy has. I drink unsweetened almond milk because it TASTES SO GOOD! Yes, it's mostly water.... Drinking water is good for you.

[@340roadrunner]

Hi Mic, would you comment on the research of whether or not coconut meat is healthy. I can find plenty or research coconut water, milk, syrup and oil but not the meat of the coconut. Thanks.

[@NiranjanBendre]

Thanks, I posted comments on your previous video to review the guidelines! :) I am hoping (in my mind) that my comment got noticed hehehe

[@dihor]

My opinion is that for a biased and traditional structure the changes are huge. People have to read between the lines... Like always... Considering that the processed food industry fought like a lion last years I think that the changes are radical ...

[@debrashapiro5827]

actually, the 2015 US Dietary Guidelines said that fortified soy milk could be a substitute for dairy milk, so whoever said this was the first time, wasn't being entirely accurate. I"m not saying the guidelines are good enough, or go far enough to keep Americans healthy and safe, but just that this wasn't the first time that fortified soy milk was offered as a milk substitute. Thanks, Mic. You do a fab job always.

[@stevebuss69]

When soy wheat corn etc is harvested how many thousands of small animals are shredded ? How many rodents etc are poisoned at the granary ? I eat ONLY meat = 1 happy grass fed cow a year.

[@tomc11234]

75 to 80 percent of all soy grown is fed to live stock.

[@gao1812]

Unless companies start doing a better job at fortifying plant-based milks aside from soy milk I wouldn't recommend them either. Rice milk for instance is practically devoid of any nutrition. Soy milk has good amounts of protein, potassium, copper, phosphorus, healthy fat and is particularly rich in calcium.

[@olenkatobaisiewicz8373]

There’s such a focus on protein, but it’s not required for foods in the USA to have a protein percentage on the serving size thing.... sus asf

[@chaydonofallon1352]

Because protein needs are based on the person. A 260 lb man has different protein requirements than a 150 lb woman. The reason there is percentages are to make sure that people reach the daily recommended values for micro nutrients and for not exceeding the amounts for several nutrients and there is no recommended daily amount for protein. things like total sugars and trans fats also do not have a percentage.

[@deepakhiranandani6488]

The video seems very good, thanks. Yes, there are inconsistencies which were pointed out; amazing omission of reference to processed meats and of course the dairy only infant foods guideline is glaring. Thanks for another well analysed and well presented video.

[@corrinedavis5087]

I wonder if there's more nutrients when you make your own nut milk? I usually make cashew milk and use a ton of nuts. I'm going to have to do some research.

[@Corn22]

Mic, do you have a video on breast cancer survivors and soy consumption? my mom was recommended to follow a plant based/vegan diet but to limit soy as well. she was told it could affect her hormones-and i wanted to hear if you had any educated input on this, maybe articles i could read about it? she has the PALB2 gene and can’t have anything with estrogen/hormones if that helps find information!

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

People who eat the most soy tend to have LOWER breast cancer rates. Soy has PHYTOestrogens that block the estrogen receptors. Try these (the studies they are based are can be found by clicking "Sources Cited" under each video): nutritionfacts.org/2014/07/29/quadrupling-breast-cancer-survival/ nutritionfacts.org/2012/04/26/breast-cancer-survival-and-soy/ nutritionfacts.org/video/is-soy-healthy-for-breast-cancer-survivors/ nutritionfacts.org/video/should-women-at-high-risk-for-breast-cancer-avoid-soy/ nutritionfacts.org/2020/03/24/the-difference-between-alpha-and-beta-receptors-explain-soys-benefits/ nutritionfacts.org/video/how-to-block-breast-cancers-estrogen-producing-enzymes/ nutritionfacts.org/video/which-dietary-factors-affect-breast-cancer-most/ Heck, while you are at it, here are over 200 short videos summarizing research on breast cancer. nutritionfacts.org/topics/breast-cancer/ Good luck!

[@themountainsandthesea4121]

@@HealingLifeKwikly good stuff.👍

[@HealingLifeKwikly]

@@themountainsandthesea4121 Thanks.

[@davidthescottishvegan]

If I made up the guidelines the animals products categories would be removed.Government's still define animal products as under the essential products category of keyworkers industries and that has to be completed removed because they are part of the problem behind the present pandemic and other chronic and zoonotic diseases.

[@rescuerhonda0164]

Love those curly-cues Mic!

[@VRCM_Skywarn_XUSA]

Milk is for babes. 👶 Cows milk, baby cows. 🐄 Grown folks, eat greens. 🌿🥗 💪

[@kathivy]

Thanks for covering the new guidelines; I didn’t realize that they were finalized. The wording on cholesterol and soy dairy alternatives was included in the 2015 - 2020 U.S. Dietary Guidelines (see below), so I don’t see how this update is any improvement. Unfortunately, our country is stuck in the nutritional 1980s. “The Key Recommendation from the 2010 Dietary Guidelines to limit consumption of dietary cholesterol to 300 mg per day is not included in the 2015 edition, but this change does not suggest that dietary cholesterol is no longer important to consider when building healthy eating patterns. As recommended by the IOM,[24] individuals should eat as little dietary cholesterol as possible while consuming a healthy eating pattern.” (hidden on p32) “Most individuals in the United States would benefit by increasing dairy intake in fat-free or low-fat forms, whether from milk (including lactose- free milk), yogurt, and cheese or from fortified soy beverages (soymilk).” (p49)

[@BowstaffWorrior]

Mic the vegan and Hasan Minhaj, my two favorite people when it comes to finding the correct information all while literally laughing out loud in a room by yourself

[@weirdunclebob]

I tried the my plate plan thing and apparently I need to eat 2400kCal per day to achieve a healthy weight. I've been eating less than 2000kCal per day and I'm still not losing weight. lol

[@jonnahdee9202]

Try raw

[@mathildeberg3469]

Some of the recommendations are weird, but it is really far better than what we have in France ^^' Our dietary guideline for 2020 only said to lower the animal protein sources and to increase the plant-based ones and it has been seen as a revolution xD There will be a long time before we see a note saying we can substitue yoghourts and cheese by on-dairy alternatives (even If it's not very accurate I recognize).

[@ErinWilke]

I FELT that almond breeze joke in my soul. And hurts twice as much when it's expensive!

[@adamforbes1019]

Strange comment about dairy. People in India have been consuming milk and other dairy for centuries if not millennia. Also interesting that they say that dietary cholesterol should be "as low as possible" when we now know that dietary cholesterol has little to no effect on blood cholesterol in people unless you have some health problem.

[@jadespades4237]

Finally! I've been waiting for them to drop this for forever. I guess 2020 pushed back their graphics department.

[@crystaljohnston1680]

As a Canadian, I was super happy with their new Dietary Guidelines. You should take a peek.