New Warning To All Ford Ecoboost Owners!

[@fonzo2525]

this guy is a great mechanic,i don't know if he still works in a ford shop or not but either way he knows his business,his vids have helped me a lot.

[@kevanfalsafi2446]

The solution to this is to take the intake off and blast the back of the intake valve with crushed walnut shells or similar media. This was developed in the early 80's by mercedes to fix this very problems on their turbo-diesels. VW, Audi, BMW, all have the same issue and need this service at 80-100k miles depending on the driving. Dealer approved procedure for them

[@jeffreysenior]

I think the CATCH CAN is the best thing you could do for early eco-boost engines. The newer style engines have the dual injection systems. One injector sprays gas right in the cylinder and the other injector sprays the back of the intake valve and keeps it clean.

[@havefun1796]

I put one on my v8 too.

[@theadventurecru527]

How early? 2015?

[@gamesmaster1060]

Would this apply if I got a brand new engine from ford put in a 2013 car?

[@monkmchorning]

For any engine with direct injection.

[@tomrakusan1179]

The 2022 Mustang ecoboost is DI only………

[@byronlemay2166]

According to KZbin, this is your most watched video of the hundreds you've done. I think it would be great for you to add to this or follow up with this issue on these engines...is it really happening? Is a catch can the solution? Is there a safe way to clean it out?. This would be a good one for an update.

[@PfeifferFishing]

Unless your catch can gets clogged or rusted. Which can happen a lot quicker then one would think , even with the rx catch cans . Seen someone destroy there truck because of a catch can also

[@nufftajbl]

@@PfeifferFishing then 3in1 service should help no? to clean all the carbon out.... say every 10K miles?

[@thebusey4514]

Went with the 5.0 in my 2015 F150. I am very happy with the motor. It sounds great and has PLENTY O POWER!

[@gilianrampart8514]

Not at 12000ft it doesn't!!!!!

[@joey_mc]

The carbon build up is still very common on turbocharged petrol BMW's

[@PatTheRiot]

Carbon build up is pretty common in every petrol combustion engines. lol.

[@jeremyventurino4651]

Would be interesting to see the BTU output of an induction cleaner vs the fuel you'd normally run anyway. Turbos deal with WAY more heat at 5000rpm than it would probably ever see with an induction cleaner. Towing a boat up a hill should get that turbo nice and toasty too. So the turbo would have to get extremely hot to cause any seal damage. The logic seems somewhat flawed to me.

[@ryans4871]

Thank you for the video and confirming my correct choice to order another 2019 5.0 v8 on trade for my 2013 5.0, since I couldn't get what I wanted on the lot since they were mostly 2.7 and 3.5 EcoBoost. Hope they never stop making the v8 because that will probably be the end of my Ford ownership.

[@punker6506]

I've done 2 induction services on my service managers 3.5 ecoboost and haven't had any problems. I've used the BG products system.

[@glenncivale6824]

In my opinion as a certified Mercury Marine tech for 30 years, a carbon reduction additive like 'Quicksilver Quick Kleen', is essential for preventing and reducing carbon buildup in all internal combustion engines.Especially Marine engines (2 or 4 stroke), as they run much cooler than automotive (143 thermostats)- this is to prevent vapor lock in the fuel system in enclosed engine compartments etc. It is safe for all engines and disolves away excessive carbon build up in valve trains, rigs etc, It is marketed also by other manufacturers- OMC Carbon Guard, Yamaha Ring Free and, Sierra Marine's 'Combustion Clean'. These carbon cleaners also work as fuel system cleaners and help stabilize fuels. imo

[@snookinhardinfl]

I am looking to buy a 2017, 2018, or a 2019 F150 XLT Super Crew 4X4. When I go to any dealer I always inquire about the V8...turbos fail and are expensive to fix. There is no replacement for cubic inch displacement!

[@MorTTime]

Can you post a update to this video, maybe address owner maintenance request, or Ford service options to keep the buildup in check. Thanks I really like your channel and the great advise you offer, keep it up! MJ in MN

[@adammorin814]

You got yourself another subscriber from another fellow Tech. Very happy that you put this out there because the induction services are wanted by everybody. And my father just got an F-150 2.7 so I will be very pleased to tell him you never ever get that done

[@peanutbutterisfu]

I work on a lot of European stuff and they have the carbon problems with direct injection engines. To clean the valves you have to take the intake off walnut blast the carbon off the intake valves it cleans all the carbon and then I use a tooth brush with some cleaner to finish up. I have done this on some eco boost and gm engines as well. If the valves are very carbon’d up no chemicals are going to clean them and you also wouldn’t want that amount of carbon to go through the engine anyways they just need to be walnut blasted. Now an engine that has this known problem but is running good you can do a cleaning but the only cleaning is using a chemical like BG or something but you have to use a pressurized induction cleaning system like the OTC but use the fitting that sprays a light mist and I only use like 10 psi something really low and you need to have this mist fitting out right before the throttle body and only have the engine idle and if you do this properly it will take a good half hour or more before the machine runs out of the chemical. If you do this maintenance to an engine with known carbon issues you need to do this atleast every 30k at the most really every 15k or once a year is best to have a chance at keeping the valves clean. The problem is technicians run the chemicals way to fast through the engine which will cause problems and can also pool up the Chemicals in the intake but if u do a light mist at idle it will work fine. Running chemicals in the fuel tank or running the machine right through the injectors does nothing because the fuel injectors spray fuel in the cylinder so the chemicals do not pass by the intake valves so it’s pointless!

[@michaelcook9920]

The other thing is to help prolong life for turbos use. Full syn oil keep the turbo cool and lubricated better

[@randr10]

I'm wondering if the fact that these motors have so much torque down low, people don't find the need to wind up the rpm at all and that's part of the reason you're seeing carbon issues. Makes me think the old "Italian tune up" every once in a while might stave this off.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Well the carbon is the nature of the beast on these but that is a good point. I know for the 2012 explorer I talk about in the video is not driven hard for sure.

[@mmiller1188]

In my experience, they are programmed to lug around at low RPMs because they have low end torque.

[@GWLAD]

FordTechMakuloco ie like we say over this side of the pond about fords of old give it a bit of a bollocking to blow some carbon out of the engine

[@mmiller1188]

Any DI engines benefit from having some sort of oil separator on the PCV system That way, there's no crap going over the intake valves.

[@dougn2350]

Robert Nugent ...the problem is GDI. End of discussion.

[@rds990]

Interesting video series. Thanks Just bought an F150 FX4 with 3.5 Ecoboost yesterday. Found a dealer that warrants engine, drivetrain AND turbos for the entire time I own the truck (no warranty transfer on future sale). With only a $100 deductible, I now feel lots more comfortable with the Ecoboost decision. Personally....I LOVE the quiet from this engine !! I am not a guy who needs the deep sound.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

RD S Yes it has a very refined sound to it.

[@BlueSky-qv7cd]

I remember Sears used to have a battery with a life time warranty, until they started loosing money than it went away, your warranty is only good until they start loosing money, then its on your nickel.

[@rds990]

+Grand Negus I have it in writing. VERY specific language that protects me very well.

[@rds990]

+John doe LOSING (not loosing) money has nothing to do with it. It is honored nationwide and I have it in writing. The only conditions are that I have it serviced at Ford....which I always do anyway.

[@crunch9876]

RD S they make enough money on the service that when it comes to a repair they are ok with losing money. None the less it seems you got a good deal

[@dixy2k]

CBU (Carbon Build Up) is a huge problem with newer diesels too. Reliability seems to go way down as the ethnology advances.

[@goldenhorshoe4814]

I love my escape eco boost its fun sporty and powerful for the little engine it has. And very fuel efficient I find. But I also run high test gas in it so maybe that’s why I get great results. Just added a k&n cone filter to replace the paper cone that it came with so I’m going to see if it makes a difference on fuel savings

[@melvincleveland3073]

I have a 2013 Escape with 2.0 Eco boost.I use nothing but real gas,no ethanol, and it is fine.Good power and fuel mileage is 32 to 35 on highway and 22 to 25 in town.Of course I try to drive sensible too.That always helps

[@jdmsterxx]

This issue has been well known for atleast 8 years in the european car realm. Most BMW/VAG spec shops offer a media blast cleaning as a regualar service. I preform them under the terms of an "induction cleaning" because i also clean the intake manifold out best as possible. Kinda scary that the guys on your hotline didnt really see this coming. Im fairly sure BMW dealers are even offering a service for this under reg mait.

[@davva360]

I said from the outset that the Turbos on the F150s are not worth the added complications they bring. Stick with a naturally aspirated 5.0 and you will have a lot less issues in the long run.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

We never see 5.0l for problems.

[@MemphisMojo15s]

FordTechMakuloco I think that Coyote engine will continue to be the most dependable that Ford has. I'll probably catch an uppercut for this but oh well-This is the biggest reason Toyota didn't listen when people said they needed to do direct injection on the 5.7. They knew 7 years ago not to do it.

[@tschultes37]

I agree even though I do like the 3.5L. I just bought a 2014 f150 with the 5.0 because I think that old school naturally aspirated v8 will give me years of service in the construction world.

[@dallen122758]

chad haire As long as you don't get it stuck in mud and try to get it out because you will need to have the transmission replaced and that's from one of my friends that rebuilds transmission for a liven for the past 30 years.

[@vivimu]

He don't know. I could spin the tires to china and the driveshaft will break before tran

[@nomadland99]

Thanks for keeping us in the loop on this. I am very concerned about the long term ramifications with/without catch can.

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

Toyota solved the direct injection by adding Bi injectors to each cylinder. There is a direct injection injector and an above valve injector. This allows the fuel to clean the injectors at 3/4 to WOT throttle. I think Nissan does this to.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

DOMINION PIE Interesting.

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

FordTechMakuloco Apologies, I meant valves.

[@ryan_from_tmg]

DOMINION PIE I work at Toyota. This is true lol.

[@deanreynolds7825]

***** My 07 Tacoma 2.7 with 104 k miles runs better than new, but the exhaust pipe end does have a lot of black carbon, whereas my Wife's 04 Malibu v6 has a much lighter color tailpipe.

[@lisabenny9583]

DOMINION PIE f

[@bubbafinch07]

VW, had this happen on the 06 to 08.5 GTI's. They remedied it by placing injectors before the values as well as directly into the port. Luckily the intake is fairly easy to get off on the older ones, normally three values are closed with one open. normal procedure is to tape off the open valve, soak the gunk in a cleaning agent and scrape and vacuum the gunk out and rinse and repeat until clean. It's a pain, however it's only needed every 50-100k depending how the car is driven. Some drivers have also added meth injection not only as a octane booster but to have the ability to clean the values without manually cleaning them. Hope this helps.

[@monkmchorning]

Toyota does this too.

[@2320ivy]

Hello, love your Video. I worked in an BMW dealership as a Master Tech, back in the 80"s and this was a big problem with all vehicles of idle miss-fire. Excessive carbon build up on the Intake valves. BMW came up with a procedure of removing intake and exhaust manifolds and actually sand blasting the back end of the valves with crushed Walnuts from both directions. A long and expensive process, but effective. Preventive maintenance was to add Techron in gas tank with every other full tank. This problem will continue to be an issue until they find a better way to introduce fuel injector application and locations. I found the only way fight this right from the start is to apply a teflon additive to your fuel every once in a while. Chevron gas has it's additive of Techron, but to add more to your tank will diffidently help in the long run. Again, thanks for the Video, and good luck. OH, BTW, Don't replace the heads, dumb move, you'll just have the same problem again.

[@Kayemtee]

I love my F-150 2.7 Ecoboost, but I love that I leased it even more.

[@williamschuman4951]

Beat that thing up and give us a update.

[@keithromine3891]

Mine has backfired a couple times. And stalled out. No codes. At all. Been in 3 times and they wont take it back.

[@getfitwithme8405]

Keith Romine get a catch can

[@Flewpygoober]

I figured they would do walnut blasting like what BMW's fix to this DI problem is. What about seafoaming it at the throttle body and not the before the turbo. I feel like that'd be a lot safer for the turbo. I just ordered my mishimoto oil catch can the other day. Hopefully it's not too late. I'm at 23k miles on my 2014 Fiesta ST...

[@DONNYBOYY28]

lexus's 5.0 v8 has both port and direct injection to eliminate the carbon issue

[@Fussinated]

+Donny Rino Subaru BRZ and Scion FRS also use that dual application.

[@MemphisMojo15s]

+Fussinated so does the 3.5 in the new Tacoma..it's the D4S Atkinson Cycle. direct/port injection.

[@coiledsteel8344]

+Lights-Guns-Outdoors Also axle problems - Toys not perfect!

[@atl3630]

2018 Fords have that

[@Shakerhood69]

The Ranger does not have it, probably going to suffer carbon build up issues.

[@Allworldsk1]

I think one of the main problems that people cause themselves is using the aftermarket tuners that you can plug right in and change your settings according to what you're using the vehicle for. Causes carbon to build up on the engine performance is going to be altered. The shifting RPM placement will be different and there will be more an issue with the carbon buildup according to the gas that you use and where you purchase your gas Along with the octane of your gas. Usually have octane booster or just mix it with straight racing gas high octane. 1/4 gallon for each 10 gallons of regular fuel. And make sure you plan on driving for at least a half a tank of gas that day. It will show noticeable Improvement

[@MrHogmanmike]

Back in the late 1980s-early 1990s, the tempo/ topaz and 2.3 l ohc rangers also had this issue with carbon on intake valves. Fomoco came up with a blaster that was used with the engine still assembled in the car. It used crushed walnut shells to blast off carbon. We had a ranger that ran like the accelerator pump was disconnected on an old carb, big hesitation on takeoff. Pour in carbon clean was only a bandage to the cure. After the carbon blast, the truck ran like it was new. The big issue was that the truck never seen highway speeds and was just puttering around town. They used walnut shells because if any did get into the combustion chamber, it would just burn up and not damage anything. We on,y used it once after we got it as this wasn’t a big issue for many people as they drove more and carbon didn’t form as bad. I think I remember hearing that Chrysler Corp also had similar issues at that time.

[@tankty6977]

I went back and forth about whether to buy the 3.5 eco boost or the 5.0 V-8. I’m old school so of course I went with the V-8 for my new 2020. Nothing beats the rumble of a V-8. Thanks for video bud.

[@northdakotaham1752]

Good choice. How has it been running...that 5.0? Ford screws up with Ecoboost and next screw up will be EV vehicles that almost nobody wants.

[@kellismith4329]

Bringback the inline 6 !

[@swmp9x19]

Why has it become common practice for manufacturers to push a product to consumers and basically let them (the consumer) test it? This is BS and the reason I dont buy stuff that just came out. I dont make a purchase until it has been on the market for a while and issues are found and corrected. Its total crap, and nobody (group or agency) will do anything about it. Every manufacturer is doing it too, its not a ford vs gm vs dodge/ram/fiat, its consumer vs corporation.

[@620john620]

swmp9x19 totally agree. I bought a new 2014 Focus, not knowing about it using a CVT transmission. In the shop twice under warranty, traded it in on a 2017 Escape S , regular 2.5 liter engine, having heard bad things about eco boost. Added leather seats, remote start, I can do without the other options.

[@mnvikings1973]

We are Guinea Pigs. Just like the general population is when it comes to the FDA and drugs.

[@TheHomeinspections]

Thank the EPA

[@mikewhipkey6863]

This is the reason why I bought a Toyota Tundra! Everyone calls out Toyota for not changing and redesigning them every other year.. But Toyota found a quality set up and they stick with it!

[@RickStuff]

Because back in the days when a man was starting a business he was caring about his product, then about the costumers then about the money. Now the second and third generations of company owners are caring about money, then themselves, then their product and finally the dumb ass who buying the chitty product, the costumers...

[@travisbuffington9086]

I drive and research Volkswagen and I have encountered the carbon buildup in my 2012 GLI, and the lead tech at the VW dealer I did my internship at told me the way he cleans the intake valves on the VW direct injection engines is with a media blaster using walnut shells. Not sure if that is something Ford has looked into

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Ford has used a similar setup on their cars as far back as the early 80's but its not approved for the new vehicles.

[@fromstarlighttosunrise128]

For 10 years, VW would send you 30 zip ties and you'd rub them down the valves to clean out carbon. It was their legit procedure.

[@GIGABACHI]

Media blasting with walnut shells it's the shit.👍. No cylinder head R&R is a big relief. I can't see how it would hurt any other engine unless it's made out of candle wax or playdoug.

[@terryrobertson8382]

I had a 2014 1.6 Ecoboost Escape and then a 2017 2.0 Ecoboost Escape (that ford had to buy me a new short block for) when I started hearing and seeing the valve problems. I traded in the 2017 and bought the the only Escape without GTDI. I love my 2021 Escape Hybrid, it is amazing.

[@wandad2105]

I have a Ford F-150 limited 2013. Purchased 11/14/2013. 11/10/2014 I noticed the floor of the driver side was soak and wet. Carried it to the dealer and they said it was the sunroof drainage. Supposedly they fixed it. 11/18/2014 A week later I had to return to the dealer because the same problem occurred and this trip they said it was the windshield causing the leak. They replaced the winshield, picked my truck up 1/5/2014. Returned the truck back 1/26/2015 same problem. In the process they torn up my dashboard, dome light don't work along with the vanity lights not working. Nipped my paint while removing the windshield and had to take the bumper off and repaint it. They called in the water doctor and they said the water was coming from the door, removed the door panel and repaired 2 grommets. Water doctor check grommets on all four doors. Picked up truck 3/3/2015. now it sounds like I'm riding with the windows down, the lights and things are still not fixed. Problem still not resolved. Crossroads Ford where I purchased the truck told me the closest truck to mine now is a 2015 platinum. They are talking about trading my truck in to them and they leave me with owing 5000. On my loan and getting the platinum which will put me in debt for a new vehicle plus 5000. more which will be left on my loan. I am still dealing with them about my truck nothing for my inconvenience all these months or the money I have all ready invested. So today I called my lawyer, I have played with them long enough.

[@parsons585]

Wanda D I quit buying Fords when a factory warranty rep called me a liar and the dealer agreed with me on the continuous problem I was having with the a/c not cooling good enough plus condensation dripping on passenger side foot area!

[@wrotenwasp]

Wow, it sounds like direct injection on these vehicles are depositing more carbon on the intake valve than the old carburetor days! The older SFI didn't seem to have this problem. Seems like buying a truck with the 5.0 is the best way to bypass this headache or make sure you have a warranty.

[@bonkeydollocks1879]

Yep, the old carb or old fuel injection would wash the intake valves of carbon but with GDI the inlet manifold or valves don't get washed, plus they have easy glide blow by pistons than let blow by gases past the pistons into the crankcase that the EGR valves then recirculate around the hot inlet manifold and head and basically bakes the carbon hard onto everything so basically the engine has been designed to strangle itself to death..

[@eurokid83]

You have to manually clean the carbon out of the intake ports and off the valves. I've been a VW/Audi tech for almost ten years now, we have to manually clean the carbon on the 2.0 FSI/TSI engines all the time. If you have a direct injected engine and you start to experience lower performance, poor fuel economy, rough running or misfiring when cold but goes away when warm you need to inspect for carbon build up. Ford may not approve of this cleaning method but it works and you can get about 90% of the carbon cleaned out by manual cleaning. More economical than replacing the cylinder head that's for sure.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

+Chester Wardan Yes I have done the same on this 2.0l

[@afcgeo882]

This used to be a throttle body issue on all cars anyway.

[@deepwater2652]

Thank goodness I opted for the non-Ecoboost engine in my Escape!

[@tommytruth7595]

You can't.

[@tactikoolcloud8788]

I have fixed many VW 2.0 (no ecoboosts yet) misfires with induction cleaning using BG induction cleaner and sea foam. Yet to have one return with a bad cat or turbo. Cleaning is done at idle and 2k rpms. The turbo is not loaded nearly enough to cause excessive heat and damage it. I do see the concern of melting the cat because of carbon deposits and misfires caused during the service, but I have yet to have a single car of all makes and models set a P0420 after a service. In my opinion it is perfectly safe as long as you are doing the service correctly.

[@turbodiesel4709]

+Kevin Welliver : You can bet that time will tell... because, you know as well as I do that average people are going to use SeaFoam. And plenty of techs will do pressurized power chemical injection and induction cleaning on these vehicles, whether Ford recommends it or not. LOL

[@tactikoolcloud8788]

+Turbo Diesel: True time will tell. At this time I still consider it to be a safe service. I work at a privately owned shop with lots of returning customers. I have been maintaining some of the same vehicles for over 5 years and done multiple services without any that I can recall needing a cat. But I'm sure a few of them have had O2's. Hard to say if that's just age or caused by a service. I also know injection services work very well. My Land Cruiser with 314k ran extremely better after an injection service. Likely due to over 300k of carbon build up.

[@ecoheliguy]

All gas direct injection engine is North America have this problem. Pvc valve causing engine crank case vapors to cock onto the valves, intake injection washes the valves down with fuel is acts as a solvent. Some engines including some models of Subaru STI's still have a fuel injector in the intake plenum as well as direct injection to correct this issue.

[@turbodiesel4709]

+ecoheliguy : Don't forget, it's not just PCV being the problem, but also EGR is very much a culprit too.

[@mikearnwine5809]

this is easy... oil catch can, EGR delete, and get a water-meth injection kit... going on my 6th year owning a direct injection turbo charged car and this is how you prevent carbon build up. Scheduled cleaning is also very recommended... NOT SEAFOAM... BMW suggests using walnut media and a media blaster to scrub the valves clean.

[@ak540i2]

+Mike “MS3inDC” Arnwine Blasting? That sounds very involved. As in removing the top end of the engine, no?

[@mikearnwine5809]

AK540i​​ no, no need to remove the valve cover or head. Remove the intake manifold to gain access to the valves. You'll need a crank key to get each cylinder to TDC (top dead center) to make sure none of the walnut media gets into the combustion chamber. A shop vac and gun cleaning kit will also be needed to scrub the valves in place and vacuum out the media. It's time consuming but not all that difficult to do. I have pictures of when I did it on my profile. 

[@tomjw7]

+Mike “MS3inDC” Arnwine yes this is the only think that works. meth helps, but not perfectly. and u don't need a crank key, just have to turn the drive wheel while in 4th gear.

[@afcgeo882]

This is on a Direct Injection engine?

[@ricksimpson2167]

Just water your Pistons,,,. Water in a Windex spray bottle,,,, spread in the carburetor or spread in the throttle body,,,, or any way to get it in the intake manifold,,,, turns black carbon into white powder,,,. !!!!

[@Georgiagreen317]

After 20 years of working with aircraft and turbo engines, this is nothing new. Turbo's usually mean trouble somewhere down the line. Aircraft engines which must be overhauled at specific times by FAA regs are a good example. Virtually the same identical engine normally aspired is rated for 1700 to 2000 hours of operation. Turbo the same engines and this is reduced to 1200 and sometimes lower than that. Since the FAA mandated low lead fuels these engines seldom make it to TBO. (Time between overhauls) The comment below in regards to fuel quality is accurate also. Not all fuels are created equal. Find one that works and stick with it.

[@UBBERTANKER]

cold start missfires are textbook symptoms of gdi engines having carbon buildup

[@jerrykegel4556]

You may b interested: purchased new 2004, Supercrew, F-150 Lariat, 5.4, in 2004…. The only problem I’ve had so far is Dealer Improves…. so I determined that this vehicle will last a lifetime if: use high quality oil, monitor mis-fires, then chk. Coils, injectors & keep clean Air filter.. all is good; however I do have Trany fluid changed every 50K and have an additive added to keep seals tight. I do get: 21-26 mpg on byway., 18-19 mpg in town. I pull apps. Weight of 2,500# frequently…. Also, I do add Seafoam every other month to fuel, does keep the carbon in chk…. I love this F-150…. No cam phaser problems yet.. Thanks for your expertise in Fords.

[@jimberger7362]

Not really saving very much gas if you have your foot into it! I am a Ford guy but that could change ! I am not a fan of small displacement and turbocharging ! Too many moving parts too any issues ! Looking to buy f150 but will only buy a 3.3 base motor or the 5.0 in an XLT will not consider a 2.7 or a 3.5 !

[@applecider98]

You're a very well spoken technician! Thanks for the very valuable information!!!

[@terryleimonis]

I have the belief that this may be an issue regarding the fuel being used. I feel ethanol is to blame for this buildup. Let me tell you my experience. I ride motorcycles and do all my servicing. Prior to a trip to Maryland, I pulled my header off and inspected my exhaust valves to see just how they were doing. Perfectly fine. Up here (Canada) I use shell 91. NO ETHANOL. Went on my trip down south, used quite a bit of 91 and 94 where I could find it and decided to see how my valves were when I got home. Pulled the header off to see an accumulation of carbon twice the amount that was previously on them. Realize that I have been riding all summer and was in the states for two weeks. My only reasoning, the filler they use in fuel called ethanol. they can put that in, and charge you the same but getting less actual gasoline for your money. It costs more, but try and find ethanol free gas, remember, just because it can run on it doesn't mean it should

[@craigdougy1463]

+Terry Leimonis Agree..My dad's old 67 mustang runs better whenever he puts Shell 94 octane in it, Very noticable in the way it performes and even start's and sun's in general, not sure if anyone has a simillar experience and have no clue if it has anything to do with it but whetever lol

[@craigdougy1463]

+8craiger6 7gusser7 (Craiger) *start's and run's*

[@dtrrtd774]

+Craig Dougy (Craiger) starts and runs, if you wanted to fix it

[@ki5aok]

Not anymore. I have a Bucee's gas station not too far from my house. It has the 87, 89 and 93 octane with 10% Ethanol. Then, off to the side, they have 87 Ethanol-Free. That 87 Ethanol-Free is about 30 cents higher than the 93 octane. That was the same way in Oklahoma when I went there for a day trip. Ethanol here in the States is used to reduce pollutants from the engine...or at least that what the government says. The cheapest fuel is E85 (summer blend 85% ethanol, winter blend 70% ethanol), which runs about 20-30 cents lower than 87 octane, but it will give you some of the worst miles per gallon, so the savings isn't worth it. I'll use that once in a while to clean the engine. Not sure if that really works, but I haven't had issues with the engine yet.

[@afcgeo882]

Not in this case. This is a direct injection engine and the build-up isn't in the cylinder, but in the port, which doesn't get any fuel passing through it.

[@rj7787]

Here I am in 2020, just got a 2014 Taurus SHK and was debating on this, thanks for the timeless knowledge man lol

[@jsl5570]

I just got an F-150 10 days ago. I hadn't heard of this issue until now, but I never did like the idea of trying to squeeze a lot of HP out of small engines. That's why I went with the 5.0 L V-8. Now I'm even happier that I did.

[@hugglescake]

My sister has a Hyundai and it wasn't running properly. I was redlining it in 1st (auto) and using the back pressure to slow down the car and speed back up. Back and forth, back and forth. Bottom line, grey smoke, which I'm assuming was carbon, was SPEWING from the exhaust and then it started running much better.

[@paulgrimm7842]

3.5 EcoBoost is a good engine . Put a JTL catch can on it

[@rastapastrychief]

@@gwho oil separator, look on youtube for lots of info about them

[@glennballantyne1604]

I think there is a few more problems here: 1-these cars are being driven straight away without proper warming up, 2-they are driven too slow(too low RPM) and 3-engines are being fuelled by a lower octane RON 90 instead of 95/98. Deposits can be cleaned easily by using a good quality petrol additives.

[@Terminxman]

I know this is 5 years old, but "proper warmup" is driving your car normally, not beating on it at first. Low octane has nothing to do with deposits. You need to learn what the purpose of octane ratings is.

[@logicalguy488]

You can reduce the issue by regularly changing your oil using quality oil and only using the top brands of fuel like BP, Shell, Mobil and so on because they put in quality additives, detergents and lubricants.

[@44hawk28]

If you do an induction cleaning that you pay for and it takes out the turbo under warranty the warranty is still valid under law. The only way they can force you to do a specific item is if they offer it to you for free. The way you fix GDI issues is by moving the injector back up above the intake valve, as was done on the 3.5 L twin turbos. Perhaps a hybrid system would work, as some manufacturers are going to.

[@BDUFFY404]

Wow, this brought so much clarity! I have a Ford explore 3.5 eco-boost and I ran Duralube’s engine enhancer and Duralube’s catalytic converter cleaner. My suv performed like a champ at first but now the turbo sounds like it is struggling only boosting in sporadic winds.2 weeks later after the induction.

[@kevinsweat5157]

Great Information. I have installed a methanol injection system on my 3.5 ecoboost 2011 F-150 to try to cool it down while I'm towing in the heat. It works. I'm told that this should also help clean off the valves while keeping everything cool. What are you thoughts on that approach?

[@maxpainmedia]

Hey how much did this cost you

[@Dillonkg1]

If you haven't, move your front license plate mount the ones in the middle block the intercooler and drive up Temps.

[@danlatu209]

Catch can, ford sells these for the mustang as a factory upgrade. All cars should have a oil catch. I have them on all my cars.

[@okaythen001]

so oil catch can will solve this problem? gonna look into it.

[@phiksit]

All the stuff the PCV sucks up (oil, gas, blowby and water vapors) ends up coating your intake and intake valves and then turns into a black baked on crud.

[@NightSky777]

phiksit what's the fix, solution, or prevention?

[@skaterpro9111]

a catch can wont solve the problem just slow it down .. or make it worse if not drained ... if the injector was on the port, it would clean the valve

[@alb12345672]

@@skaterpro9111 Lexus 3.5L engines have 2 injectors(one washes the valves) since 2005. Ford Stole the idea.

[@jesspatrick2]

This is the reason I stuck with normally aspirated engine in my 2015 F150.

[@00wolf009]

I am a European technician . The shop I work at we use walnut shells to blast the carbon build up off of the valves on any 335i 535i 135i bmw turbos every 50,000 miles +/- They have terrible build up just pull the intake and blast away ( we have a vacuum and a specific procedure for doing this ( do not attempt this at home or without proper equipment / knowledge ) Hope this helps

[@hondarich1]

I went through the same crap with our jaguar 5.0 direct injection V8. I put some Evinrude carbon guard in the gas and drove it like I stole it. Clear the codes and ship it. The customer are happy that it's running nice and smooth and when they come back for there service we just add a half a bottle to the gas tank. Works like a charm.

[@mhirst16]

I owned a 2007 MINI Cooper S, and it had all kinds of issues with carbon buildup. I should have done more research before I bought it, but back then I didn't really know how Direct Injection was different from port injection. Every 6-9 months carbon would build up and BMW charged over $800 for a "walnut blasting" procedure which is exactly that- they blast Walnut shells to get rid of the caked on carbon. I used Shell V-Power 93 every time I filled up, but that does nothing to prevent the carbon build up. I will avoid all DI engines and engines with turbos until I'm forced to buy one. By the way, I got rid of that car and now drive a 2011 Ford Fusion with the 3.0L V6. More complications in engine tech=more problems.

[@turbodiesel4709]

+mhirst16 : Yup. The underlying problem isn't the direct injection itself. It's really the PCV and EGR systems that create the coking of the intake valves in the first place. With indirect injection, the fuel and fuel cleaning additives are just constantly cleaning the gunk from the valves as the incoming fuel charge passes over the intake valves and into the combustion chamber. With direct fuel injection, the fuel charge never gets near the back side of the intake valves, because it is directly injected into the combustion chamber, AFTER the intake valves. THAT, my friend, is the real issue. Eliminate EGR and PCV, and the vast majority of your valve coking problems should go away.

[@mhirst16]

+Turbo Diesel So what about the newer DI engines, such as I believe it's GM's 3.5L V6, in the Impala and Lacrosse. Nice power plant, makes 305hp I think. But, will those motors eventually suffer the same carbon buildup fate? I read somewhere that it's 50/50, but that if they don't, it'll be because of the Variable Valve Timing they employ. Thoughts? Toyota makes engines that are both Port and Direct because I'm sure they want to be certain their customers won't have that problem

[@dougn2350]

mhirst16 ... I recently read an article about VVT keeping the intake manifold much cleaner by eliminating the EGR valve. The article was dated sometime in 2016 so its recent research. www.aa1car.com/library/egr.htm

[@harleyrider9166]

In CA it's likely you won't pass smog with EGR and PCV deletes on your engine. Also your dash will light up like a Christmas tree.

[@depecheddurand]

what do you think of mkz 2015 they have eco boost engines and they are basically ford fusions any advice?

[@eugeneleroux1842]

Thank you for a very clear explanation. I personally am averse to turbo chargers because of their high temperatures, often exceeding 600 to 700 degrees C. This is also a challenge for the turbo lubrication. A possible alternative could be an engine driven super charger which is much cooler.

[@BrianTangeman-tz3dx]

Superchargers are very inefficient compared to turbochargers

[@chucky3000.0]

These carbon build up issues are associated to all DI engines, not just forced induction engines. Hopefully manufacturers start installing their own catch can systems from the factory. I've never heard of carbon build up effecting the turbo itself though.

[@Maddieplaysmm2]

It wasn't the carbon build up affecting the turbo. The carbon build up is causing misfires. It's the TOP END CLEANERS, Such as Seafoam, etc... out there that is taking the turbos out.

[@drizler]

Toyota has the only real fix . Just leave on the MPFI on there programmed to start and stop occasionally. The DI runs most of the time while the MPFI does the occasional cleaning, problem solved!

[@chucky3000.0]

@@drizler Ford introduced this as well.

[@alangross2277]

I have used Chevron gas since my first fuel injected car which was a 1987 Mazda Rx7; Mazda recommended Chevron because they use the additive Techron in their gas. It costs more per gallon, but you get better gas mileage and a healthier engine, which in the end should make it last longer.

[@Frosty95361]

Alan Gross I have a 2016 Ford F150 Platinum with a 3.5 ecoboost, I use Chevron premium fuel on every fill up. I always warm up and cool down my truck. Most people start and drive and never idle down after driving there vehicles hard.

[@gnohn9366]

10 years and 140k miles later no problems with 2013 2.0 EB. Just took it on a 3000 mile road trip averaged 32 mpg. Still runs like new.

[@dannyberger4958]

Any thought on walnut blasting the intake valves? BMW uses this method. I had a N54 engine in a 5 series and it was common practice to clean the intakes using this method. I agree a little meth injection should help increase the interval between cleanings.

[@Fendamonky]

"Simple" solution is to add a water/meth injection system... We've been doing it to turbocharged sports cars for ages. It'll help reduce knock, lower intake temps and it'll also clean the shit out of your valves.

[@SteelBelted]

Same idea as running seafoam through your intake once in a while?

[@Fendamonky]

@@SteelBelted Not necessarily. As I understand it running seafoam may remove carbon buildup in chunks. Running a water/meth injection in the intake piping would essentially steam clean the valves (and the piston) each time you meet the threshhold. The downside is that the additional system costs money, and it's one more item to pay attention to. The perk is knock reduction, cooler intake charges, and a potential for actually leeching latent heat from the combustion chamber through atomization.

[@SteelBelted]

@@Fendamonky I did not know that until now… thanks!

[@theejoeylee]

This is why i keep my ohv ,not ohc 4.0 ranger. terrible mileage, but simple and reliable.

[@monkmchorning]

All direct injection engines have carbon buildup on the intake valves and ports. We have two 2.0 Ecoboost vehicles that have given us no trouble. The get the CRC treatment every 15-20,000 miles.and they only see 5000 rpm for short bursts. We'll probably take them in for the BRE treatment when they hit 100k.

[@ryotaryuu]

As soon as I heard Ford was using Turboed smaller engines I knew they were going to start having problems later on. Just get a naturally aspirated engine because the Ecoboost engines will have a lot of repair costs associated with the turbo system.

[@the89shee]

Problem solved at least on the 2.7 in my 2018 f150. They added port injection with the direct injection. Love my little ecoboost

[@bcroft68bc]

I have always been a ford man but ford better go back to the basics. The Triton was a good motor but the timing chain was entirely to long on it. Plus they screwed up with the plugs. If ford doesn't tighten up, the f series truck won't be the best selling truck much longer.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Agreed they are getting too complicated and expensive to repair for minimal mpg gains.

[@CajunRulez]

People often forget that Ford still has the 5.0 option which is a great V8. It has what, 65 more HP than the last version of the 5.4L Triton? Other manufacturers don't have as many offerings or trim level options. That sets Ford apart.

[@truthjester]

ford doesn't have best selling truck --add gmc and chevy sales together which are same truck....ford has never had the number 1 selling truck

[@MiltosAuto]

@@truthjester How far back did u check? I am sure there were some years that Ford beat Chevy and GMC combined.

[@tommytruth7595]

@@MiltosAuto Many.

[@Butterfly8593]

You explain things very well. I felt like I was in a mechanics class! Thanks!

[@R777-RLM]

Until these engines with DI include MPI as well, stay with MPI if at all possible. It appears, DI engines have less carbon build up, if the majority of use is distance driving at highway speed.

[@speedfreaksrod]

Egr or oil passing by turbo seals is causing the soot, traditional or non direct injection systems did a good job of keeping intake valves washed with gas.

[@thehurt33]

You do great videos sir. VERY informative, and I appreciate the time you take to do this. Keep it up!

[@peteiswriteingnow]

What could have been said in one min took eight, lost the will to live.

[@jrschmitz1]

I had the induction service done at Ford at about 60,000 miles on my 2014 Ford Escape 2.0L Ecoboost. It now has 73,000 miles and is coding 0299, Underboost condition. Could that induction service taken out the turbo?

[@PIP_SLUHT1900]

sounds like it. probably wore a seal.

[@1notgilty]

I've heard about this problem with the EcoBoost heads collecting carbon deposits and the turbos failing. The complaints start with the engines running rough upon startup after you have about 50,000 miles on the vehicle. The engines usually smooth out and run better after they warm up. Eventually the turbos can fail - probably around the time your warranty runs out. I've told Ford salesmen and mechanics about this problem and it's amazing how many don't know anything about it. Funny how my 1978 Pinto got as good mileage as the new techno wonder engines and it ran FOREVER with no problems and cost a small fraction of the price!

[@gjohns316]

Yes at a whopping 54hp an 1/7 of the hp of the new turbo 3.5 and a gutless wonder

[@1notgilty]

​@@gjohns316 Actually the 1978 four cylinder Pinto made 88 horsepower and the six cylinder put out 90 hp. The new Ford Fiesta 1.0 liter only puts out about 97 hp and comes with a $22,000 price tag. They're not exactly blowing my hair back with those single-digit horsepower improvements over the past 43 years.

[@BeardedFordTech]

im a ford tech as well. my dad has a 15 f150 echoboost. his did the same thing. I did a fuel service on it works great. hasn't had the issue since

[@TheManAshley]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and your response to questions!

[@rugermate]

Hi Mike. How do I contact you because my '13 Fusion Ecoboost AWD "blew up" about a week ago. Holes in the engine block. Parts of rods, pistons, seals found laying on the plastic under shield. Oil everywhere. I'm not sure why it happened. #1 cylinder coil pack was replaced the day before and induction service done ... at Tuscaloosa Ford. Engine was having trouble reaching 5000 rpm ... stuttering is how I described it. Hesitating or not revving or poor acceleration, also could be used to describe it. Could only replicate it with pedal to the floor, no matter what speed I was going. My insurance isn't covering it

[@ak540i2]

The whole issue here is that fuel is injected directly into the cylinder. Fuel, which used to clean the intake ports on its way into the cylinder, does not see the intake ports anymore on these DI systems. Why do you recommend fuel cleaner additives in your description? How will that help?

[@techdavey3486]

+AK540i Thanks to EGR I think that we will soon be going back to the 1950s and 1960s when it was normal to take the car off the road for a fortnight every summer for the annual decoke. In that era car insurance usually incorporated insurance for a moped that was used as back-up transport during the decoke. A real horror story that I read last year (2015) involved a fairly new Renault diesel car that was not performing properly. It was Common Rail so "cracking" the injectors was not possible. There were no stored faults in the ECU and the cylinder compressions were all OK so the Main Dealer was baffled. Eventually the cylinder head was removed and this revealed the fault. The inlet port next to the EGR pipe was clogged with carbon! The other ports were OK hence it was a case of a four cylinder car only running on three. My advice to Main Dealers is to get an pistol type infra-red thermometer and scan the exhaust manifold. The idea is not new as the generator-sets at a place where I worked about fifty years ago had an exhaust gas pyrometer in each exhaust port. (The engines could produce 750 BHP continuously at 300 rpm) I dread to think how much that bit of carbon cost the punter as by the time the fault occurred, the car was out of guarantee. Duh! PS With the right interface, software and a laptop it is possible to "kill" each injector in turn. The drop in revs should of course be the same for each injector. If the car has had an aftermarket CD player installed instead of the OEM radio it is quite likely that the diagnostics socket will no longer work. This is a very common fault. Good luck!

[@superkart1913]

+Tech Davey My advise is buy a GM truck.

[@heyitschinoable]

+Tech Davey Just read about this in another video

[@AE86ofMtAkina]

+super kart Fuck off -GM Truck owner

[@1dlb]

just make sure you have a fire extinguisher ...

[@adrockey]

First of all I used to be a Ford Technician. Back on early 3.8 L there was a walnut blasting procedure for carbon on the intake valves.

[@IMediaCorp]

I have the 1.5L EB w/ no issues/complaints but it's a lease. Got my eye on a used MKZ but now its strictly a 3.7L V6 don't want to take a chance w/ the standard 2.0L EB for long term ownership. Cylinder misfires aren't pretty, I've dealt w/ it in the past.

[@TheBlebski]

The biggest issue is that the manufacturers are aware of ‘known’ problems but deny liability

[@billmonroe8826]

That's always the case. GM's AFM is a perfect example of that. Every manufacturer has their issues and they refuse to warranty them. Been that way for 40 yrs. that I know of!

[@soko1450]

If Ford drops the 5.0 to go all ecoboost, I'll be looking elsewhere for my next truck. I've had to F150's and two Rangers. All great trucks. The current 5.0 seems to be a pretty damn good low maintenance motor. Reliable ecoboosts seem to be the exception more than the rule. Never thought I'd say it but I'll probably go GM.

[@ryans4871]

Yeah, my '13 5.0 gets better mileage than my old 3.0 v6 ranger which was good enough for me! Plus my new 2019 5.0 is going to be slightly better than that, so what wrong with a V8 that does that right!

[@garrettglauser8824]

I would avoid the 5.0 and the ecoboosts. 5.0 is burning oil from day one. The 3.3 is only reliable motor for the f150 now. If you need a bigger truck, f250 6.2 is fine, but it drinks gas, only about 14-17 mpg

[@norcalrallyx]

I have the 2.0L ecoboost focus ST. I love to put down the power down whenever I can, revving it to peak HP around 5,500 rpm in 3rd and 4th onto the freeway. I do "maintenence" driving alot lol. And yeah, my tail pipe is black. 15,000 miles on the odo, synthetic blend oil every 5k, always Shell 91 gas (California). Hmmmm...your video makes me think i should invest in an extended warranty in case the tiny K03 turbo burns out on me. Or I could save that money and invest in a larger turbo...decisions decisions. All bets are off once I get beyond the 36,000 factory warranty!

[@FordTechMakuloco]

norcalrallyx The turbos themselves have actually been real good, and the turbo is covered to 60k anyway.

[@ThePucko97]

K03 is a proven model and will probably do 150k+ miles if you change oil regularly and keep the engine clean from oil sludge.

[@mattycm]

FordTechMakuloco hey I was reading into some aftermarket injection systems and I saw some Methanol injection kits available for the EcoBoosted Focus ST. They claim that methanol injection will more or less "steam clean" the valves/pistons. I was wondering how you thought this could impact the carbon buildup you mention.

[@okaythen001]

oh turbo is covered to 60k? part of the powertrain? nice.

[@hemi300c4]

With 60,000 warranty on the turbo. You're good. Ask your dealership service department about the black tailpipe. FYI. Generally, black soot in the exhaust tailpipe would indicate a too rich fuel mixture, leaving partially burnt exhaust deposits. ...

[@TheNortheastAl]

What about doing a mechanical cleaning with ground walnut shells in a sand blaster or the chemical and mechanical scraping of the valves? At BMW they do the walnut shell treatment at the dealer. VW uses the chemical and scrape the valves. Each procedure costs about $600.

[@mikem2253]

Carbon buildup is a known issue with all DI motors. Only Toyota uses a hybrid DI/port injection system to keep the valves clean. BMW and VW/Audi offer walnut cleaning of the intake valves to clean the valves back to day 1.

[@AnHRTBus]

a redline a day keeps the mechanics away...

[@egustafson]

Until you spin a rod bearing

[@AnHRTBus]

+Erik Gustafson lol, I'm not saying to push it, but if you baby it all the time don't be surprised when it gives out under load lol

[@egustafson]

+AnHRTBus you're right! I wonder what's the best way to have the best of both worlds

[@RedfishCarolina]

Not going to help the intake valves on an ecoboost. Probably make it worse, more crap from EGR flying through the intake and direct injection doing nothing to clean the intake valve

[@coiledsteel8344]

AnHRT Bus We used to call it a "Nevada tune up" - just find a very long road (after warm up) and slowly floor it to high speed. THEN back off slowly.

[@drwombat]

looks like fords new heads are a "wear item" too (just like GM's castech heads) pitty, these should not be manufactured to be serviceable assemblies

[@damagingspark7]

So would you recommend any current or future ecoboost owners just give it the old "Italian tune up" every now and then?

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Definitely yes

[@charliewhitney3494]

The Ecoboost was made to run so Run it! All the folks who run them have clean intakes Also all the folks that run them run good fuel and oil. Wish I could tell you on here what oils not to run without being sued. With the engine off if you can feel sludge in you fill port or inside your valve cover with your finger your using one of the sludge building oils. Bad oil makes oil turn black and bad oil makes sludge and adds carbon deposits to your top end. Also it should be known a lot of people swear by the brands that are the problems and they say I have ran it all my life but I ask them if they ever had an engine that made it to 500k miles without blowing up and there answer is always no and they always tell about engines with collapsed lifters. I have never had a lifter collapse and only had one engine blow at low miles it was a bowtie and I still think it had a problem from day one.

[@organicdry]

charlie whitney what oil should we use ?

[@ryanboggs6837]

charlie whitney Can you recommend your favorite oil?

[@mtclip34]

This was common on audi around 150000 miles. Look up audi walnut blasting for intake valves. I made up a rig with a shop vac and a blaster from Harbor Freight. I did use walnut shells for a media. Carbon on intake valves is common dfi engines because the fuel doesn't wash the valves like tbi or mpi.

[@deanmeyer1815]

I've been wondering. With the push for better fuel mileage and the use of narrow. Low tension rings, that there is more blowby and as the engine starts to accumulate miles, valve giudes and seals are generating oil and fuel vapors, which are condensing and depositing on the back of the intake valves. A catch can seems to be a good start, but there will still be a build-up of deposits on the valves. Why not use a water injection system that can be sprayed into the intake manifold, or even a service port to spray a solvent to clean them, rather than replacing heads.

[@jaggass]

its not a bad engine but the figures don't match up to what ford claim.

[@dom3827]

i think it highly depends on the specific engine. Like the 1.5 Liter L Dragon 3 Cylinder of the new Fiesta ST measures higher figures than claimed. Claimed is 200 HP and 290 nM torque. Measured it has 205 HP and 310 nM Also it has dual injection. Direct injection plus injection in the intake to clean intake valves to prevent carbon build up. But dont know if america will ever see that. Its an european engine in an european car. Like the new Focus will not find the way to US Market.

[@leyland9999]

You mentioned it already, as a matter of fact, my Ford workshop adviced me premium fuels, so definately NO white label low octane fuels, with special additives that clean the intake valves. I own a 2012 Ford Focus 1.6 turbo Ecoboost and I feed it this premium fuel every second fill up. I have checked the spark plugs on my car, it has done 80000kms, and they are still in good condition. Nice, grey colour, not a trace of carbon. I do not push my car to the limits but I do push it on the autobahn every now and then to clean its throat after miles driving it in the city. So those who think these additives are rubbish, think again! Over here in Europe we have e.g. Shell V-Power, that's the kind of fuel you want for you modern engine that has so many more parts to clean the exhaust gasses than older cars have. The little extra you pay at the filling station is quickly earned back by lower garage bills.....!

[@44hawk28]

It's my understanding that in Europe you also have regular that's 90 octane. That would be a good option for the United States to move to. However, the issue with carbon building up on the intake valves is exacerbated in direct injection. And it has got markedly worse on the Ford turbos that are direct injected. If you have a Ford ecoboost engine at least put an oil catch can on it. As for cleaning additives are in the fuels, regular mid-grade and premium all have the same cleaning additive. The difference is in the burn rate of the fuel itself.

[@canabox7112]

leyland9999 you could put unicorn piss in the gas and it wouldn’t do shit if it’s injected behind the vavle

[@wb3161]

It doesn’t matter what you put in it because it has no way of cleaning the valves because the fuel/additives don’t go past the valve as a regular engine does because it’s directly injected or fueled inside the cylinder. Only intake air goes past the valve

[@BCORBAN7884]

The 2nd gen EcoBoost engines are both direct and port injected so wouldn't this help with carbon buildup on intake valves? Plus using premium shell v power fuel and full synthetic oil every 5,000 miles should for sure be superior to the 1st gen EcoBoost. Would the 2nd gen EcoBoost still need a catch can though?

[@raydavies3278]

@@44hawk28 ,Only carpet build up ive ever had is on my knees.

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Direct injection is a design flaw. Many manufactures have this problem. VW, BMW, Audi, etc.

[@dougn2350]

I agree. I hate GDI. I was glad Hyundai stuck with MPI on their new '17 Elantra.

[@theodorecoppola2712]

Michael Harris how do I repair a leaking rack and pinion unit.

[@MarzNet256]

Theodore Coppola Try AT-205 Reseal (about $10 on Amazon). It is a plasticiser which can rejuvenate older rubber seals (if that's is what's causing the leak). It will not fix leak if seals are damaged. Give it about 5hrs of driving time to work.

[@joecliffordson]

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[@jnande6820]

The carbon accumulating on the intake valves is not isolated to ECOboost or Ford only. It is a downfall of direct injection fuel systems. There are talks by some manufacturers about adding a single injector in the traditional manifold injection design whose sole purpose is to keep the valves cleaned, cooled, and lubricated.

[@FordTechMakuloco]

Correct the point of the video is to not do regular chemical induction cleanings. Toyota is already adding the injector and ford is doing it starting in 2017

[@TcToshi]

Back in my mazdaspeed 3 days we all had this issue. They run pig rich and those intake valves are cakes up nice. A lot of my friends took the intake manifolds off and did media blasting, manual brushing/scrubbing and a few other home made backyard remedies. They actually media blasted the intake ports with walnut media or something and vacuumed the excess out. They made it work, no issues some how but with direct inject turbo engines, it just comes with it. oil catch can is a life safer but not the total fix. Great video though. I will be watching for more. Im looking at a mustang ecoboost. Loved my old 2.3 DISI turbo. Feel like it'll be a good ride