Ford F-150 3.5L Ecoboost Repeat Engine Misfires: Diagnostic Tips and Tricks!

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In this video we show you how easy it can be to diagnose a misfire on a modern engine with the right tools.
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@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 4 жыл бұрын
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@xzibito187
@xzibito187 4 жыл бұрын
Is it bed too use anti seize on spark plugs??
@timothycc711
@timothycc711 4 жыл бұрын
Wish you were in my area. Your videos make owning a Ford an economical reality. Thanks again 🚘
@CaptainNero
@CaptainNero 4 жыл бұрын
Forscan is a great tool. Like it better on the laptop then the mobile app.
@raydavis5783
@raydavis5783 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I paid almost double that then discovered they sold me iridium's. I had heard that turbo engines go through plugs faster than normally aspirated and needed changing more often.
@HymezKidd
@HymezKidd 4 жыл бұрын
Are those Motorcraft coils just rebranded Denso coils which are about 10 dollars cheaper?
@IKCS1
@IKCS1 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is great I don't even own a Ford vehicle anymore but I have continued to watch his videos and have been a long time subscriber only because I admire the knowledge that this guy has I am learning a lot about behaviours with vehicles and functions his narration and explanations about issues are probably the best I have seen on youtube and online Thank You so much for continuing to share your knowledge about issues and problems with vehicles and will always be looking forward to your next challenge you are a fine vehicle technician.
@jesushorses
@jesushorses 10 ай бұрын
Just had cylinder 1 go dead on my 2015 3.5 with 170k miles after letting the truck sit a while and filling the tank up. Was on highway 1-2 later and the violent shake happened. Flashing engine light just like you showed. Figured it was a valve spring breaking or something. I put msd coils in over 100k miles ago lord I hope that’s the issue. Never thought to swap ‘em around like you did. Gonna try that this weekend. Thanks for your continued videos, I’ve used quite a few over the years I’ve had my truck. Best Ford channel, no bs, just facts and experience from you.
@tommydodds
@tommydodds 9 ай бұрын
Hey any updates ? I have the same issue. Thanks
@randr10
@randr10 4 жыл бұрын
I learned that lesson the hard way about the performance coils on the modern engines. I had previously worked on old Ford V8 stuff, so it was always a no brainer to go with an aftermarket coil and install electronic ignition in place of points. It always helped with performance and reliabilty. I put Accel coil packs on my '94 Saturn and had one go bad within a year. I saved the originals so I put them back on and it ran great until I sold the car years later. It seems the old days are gone when the aftermarket hot rod stuff works better than the OEM. All the manufacturers have really gotten their act together.
@amunderdog
@amunderdog 4 жыл бұрын
My father (A Master Mechanic) would say. They spend millions of dollars designing and testing. And you intend to improve on that?
@dustinlewis4708
@dustinlewis4708 3 жыл бұрын
hell yeah dude, I just bought a 2011 Ford F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost and I'm following all your vids to redo it 300k miles
@rcboy2793
@rcboy2793 4 жыл бұрын
MSD STANDS FOR... MY SPARK DISAPPEARED .
@SpicyRok7482
@SpicyRok7482 3 жыл бұрын
Multiple Spark Discharge?
@diavuno3835
@diavuno3835 2 жыл бұрын
Motorcraft that came with my truck started missing at 80k. Put in a set of MSD and they started to miss at 150k. Set of MSD in my mercury marauder has 100k and still going strong.
@raydavis5783
@raydavis5783 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, just got my morning coffee and saw this pop up. I have a 2012 blue flame super crew 3.5 EcoBoost. It has almost 121,000 and I'm always on the lookout for videos on this year and model. Good find!
@chrisoffutt8968
@chrisoffutt8968 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because it was a new revision and the old plugs proved to be a good design. When something works and people feel the need to change it you sometimes have to ask why.
@greg_smola
@greg_smola 4 жыл бұрын
You’re the man thank you for every video!
@darringusko8539
@darringusko8539 4 жыл бұрын
Growing up in my fathers towing and repair shop he used to beat in my head .."Only use OEM Ford parts on Fords." and I have done it ever since..
@repro7780
@repro7780 4 жыл бұрын
I had a problem with my 07 Crown Vic PI, it went into limp mode, wrench icon. Turns out, it had an aftermarket air filter. I replaced it with a Ford filter, and problem solved.
@MasterChief-sl9ro
@MasterChief-sl9ro 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice... You have less issues months later.
@JaegermannPK
@JaegermannPK 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is a year old and you probably won't get this msg, but THANKS Bunches !!! I have this problem too on my 2013 3.5 EcoBoost. What I lappreciate most about this video is that fact that you SHOWED us how to use Forscan. I got Forscan about a year ago and have used it several times, but not to this depth of trouble shooting my truck. Your step by step through the software REALLY helped !!! Keep up the great video and work for us !!! HUGE HELP !!!
@Mastrchiefca
@Mastrchiefca Ай бұрын
but he's not even using forscan hes using IDS
@jamesplotkin4674
@jamesplotkin4674 4 жыл бұрын
I can see this fellow going around and around chasing this problem never thinking his "NEW" coils could be at fault. Your diagnostic tool is awesome.
@OhDamniiiTsRey
@OhDamniiiTsRey 3 жыл бұрын
Had a p0304 on my 2015 Lincoln Navigator L and changed the spark plug on cylinder 4 using the guidance of this video. It was only $8 to fix this assuming the coil was not affected. Will change the other 5 plugs on my next day off. Saved me $300 and time wasted at the dealership!!! Thank you!!!
@wyle569
@wyle569 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. I just purchased my 2014 F-150 3.5 ecoboost Nov. 2019 with 56,000 miles. At 62,000 started feeling misfire. Replaced plugs and problem solved.
@DanMX2112
@DanMX2112 4 жыл бұрын
You are the man, great representation of diagnosing a misfire. These are crucial first steps that most people Ignore, as I have done this myself. New parts mean nothing.
@brianb900
@brianb900 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2013 f150 ecoboost, I haven’t had any issues with it but you’ve definitely educated me on what to look out for. If I’m ever in your neck of the woods I’m buying you a beer.
@williamvangorden44
@williamvangorden44 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah had the same Problem With my 5.4 Switch Out with a coil packs , Cylinder 2 Was Miss Firing Low and behold it was the spark plug and cylinder 2, Spark plug Was Misfiring So happy that I found that out.
@foxwood67
@foxwood67 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are extremely helpful beyond words. I bought a used 06 f150 with the 4.6. 70k miles yes i know low miles i was getting misfire on #3. Thanks to you i was able correctly diagnose the problem and prevent catastrophic damage . #3 plug was loose almost welded tip to electrode . Replaced coil in #3( looked like boot was burnt) and replaced all plugs. Discovered that 5 a bit loose as well but only 1/2 turn. Installed new plugs properly gapped with the nickel anti-sieze and torqued to 22 ft. lbs. Good to go . Thanks for all you do . I'm glad i didnt launch a plug that would have really sucked although i watched your vid on inserts and would have tackled it. 🙂
@mrmichaeltscott
@mrmichaeltscott 4 жыл бұрын
The best F mechanic strikes again.
@adamkreuz9068
@adamkreuz9068 3 жыл бұрын
I can't express how much of a lifesaver your channel is! I have a 2012 F150 and was having issues going uphill and then putting the pedal down. Just recently the check engine light finally came on. I read the code and did a search on KZbin and of course you pop up. I've been using your other videos to change out fluids and other maintenance. You're great at explaining things and very thorough.
@adamkreuz9068
@adamkreuz9068 3 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: Replaced plug and coil pack on cylinder 2. Still misfiring. I came across a TSB that says if you see carbon tracking on the plug, replace plugs and coil boots and should be good. I'm going to try and drain the intercooler as well
@jhouston1703
@jhouston1703 4 жыл бұрын
Ford Co is finally smashing the Like button!
@stephenmoxley3004
@stephenmoxley3004 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Brian. I was considering MSD coils, as a performance upgrade for my 2015 Ecoboost Mustang. Not anymore! The stock Ford coils are working just fine and I won't have to spend $250 to create a new problem. Keep up the good work.
@andrewjmit
@andrewjmit 4 жыл бұрын
I had one original coil go out around 200k km while towing a couple years ago. Replaced with a napa one to get truck going right away. So far everything is good and ordered up a Ford spare and keep it in the truck just incase. Also keep a spare plug too because they go out every 80k km everytime.
@skyvwest
@skyvwest 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Sometimes it's difficult to ignore new parts but this proves sticking to the basics works every time!!!
@2491kridge
@2491kridge 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the most frustrating thing when you diagnose a bad part so you replace it and then the new one doesn’t work either so you run around in circles for hours trying to diagnose another problem only to figure out your brand new part is just bad
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, MSD was a pretty solid product. Accel was, too. Now both seem to have taken the 21st Century trend downward in quality, like so many once great brands have. No better example than this video right here!
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah them days are long gone...Everything made in China but they still charge the premium prices for the Name....
@dantesrt8
@dantesrt8 3 жыл бұрын
I don't comment on videos often, but this video saved me some money. Luckily I have a scan tool that helped out as well. But the way you explain things and how you go through the process of elimination is outstanding. You have a subscriber for life here! The only thing I did different was move the coil pack in question to an easier location to remove so I don't have to remove the air intake and throttle body when I'm sure it's that coil pack. Great video! 👍
@enestopadilla-camberos835
@enestopadilla-camberos835 Жыл бұрын
This it's beautiful vídeo I replaced the coil on cylinder #6 two times and do the semting, what you think?
@jayhawker03
@jayhawker03 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t it have been a twist if the customer would have had some counterfeit motorcraft plugs. After watching your video on that I wonder how many shops would be able to catch that.
@jdhkno
@jdhkno Жыл бұрын
Great video i had a tune up done and my sons truck ran fine afterwards, 2 months later it does the shaking worse!! I own a collision shop and have all the tools, scanners and things. Time i do not have so i assumed torque converter shudder. Picked it up last night still the same issues. I ran into this video before i trade this thing off came down to my shop ram the performance balance test and drive it!!! Cyl 1 and 2 for me half way done with inspection now! Sure wish i would’ve slotted time i would’ve saved some money 😂😂 th ask for the great video Edit: 2 plugs cracked majorly Cyl 1&2
@MrHossola
@MrHossola 3 жыл бұрын
Motorcraft parts for the win!
@bobc5696
@bobc5696 4 жыл бұрын
I have been let down by MSD coils. Fortunately I kept a OEM coil and a quick swap to the OEM Ford coil fixed the problem.
@glenscheible
@glenscheible 4 жыл бұрын
You the Man. Even though I drive a 2017 F250 6.2 gasser , I watch all your posts. Very informative for sure. Thanks for all the Videos .
@walterk1221
@walterk1221 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot understand why *anyone* would leave a "👎" there is nothing here to dislike unless one is a shill for MSD.
@sporttracxlt
@sporttracxlt 4 жыл бұрын
They are fools or Chevy owners
@Vortechtral
@Vortechtral 4 жыл бұрын
People that don't like Ford maybe?
@walterk1221
@walterk1221 4 жыл бұрын
@@sporttracxlt I will go with "fools" since the methodology is not Ford-specific.
@kingtachoss
@kingtachoss 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll go with fool’s who currently running MSD coils on their EB
@jiggidyjam
@jiggidyjam 4 жыл бұрын
Troy Borysko that’s one in the same
@acdii
@acdii 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing how the software helps to diagnose issues, sure is a lot easier than it was back in the 90's. I have had 7 Ecoboost 3.5 in different vehicles, Flex, MKT, and F-150 and found out the one thing they all have in common are plugs that go bad, especially running a mild tune. I found the problem though isn't bad plugs, but the plug design. If you noticed the center electrode is very thin, needle shaped. That thin point actually burns a hole in the ground strap and while the plug may gap properly that crater actually increases the gap enough to cause plug misfires. I also found gaping to .028 when tuned runs a lot better. I got into a habit of taking the plugs out every 30K miles and running a points file across the ground to remove the pit and then gap to .028. I replace the boots at the same time since they tend to cause misfires too. Never had a misfire since adding it to my general maintenance.
@powershomestead87
@powershomestead87 10 ай бұрын
What boot are you speaking of?
@acdii
@acdii 10 ай бұрын
@@powershomestead87 The plug boots that attach to the COP.
@TheRealKendrick
@TheRealKendrick 4 жыл бұрын
I put a set of MSD coils on my 5.0L and they failed in under 1 year. The place I bought it from gave me another set under warranty and 🤞 2 years later still good. I still have the OE coils just in case.
@Squat5000
@Squat5000 4 жыл бұрын
Ran a scan tool to see where the failure was occurring because I had the exact same issue. I ordered plugs that were pre gapped, paid the extra fee for that. When I pulled the plug, the gap was 1 thou over what it should have been, especially running at an elevated boost. Small small detail that caused issues and limp mode for months, but the measurements were so close to what it should have been it was hard to identify. Power balance was definitely helpful.
@zakblaze5728
@zakblaze5728 2 жыл бұрын
I have been without mine for over a year now I wish I had someone as smart as you in my town
@johannesgrimm9911
@johannesgrimm9911 4 жыл бұрын
Just had pretty much the exact same issue with my 2012 F150 3.5eco. Had check engine light/ sputtering while towing my trailer. Got a cylinder 4 misfire code. Did the coil swap check like shown in this vid. Swapped the suspect coil to cylinder 1 which then gave cylinder 1 misfire. We then got a aftermarket coil to replace it . That worked fine for all of ~500 miles towing before I got cylinder 1 misfire again. Brought it to Ford and they replaced it with a Ford coil. Also had all the spark plugs and coil boots changed out as they were nearing the recommended change times / typical failure mileage. Hope this fix will last for a long time.
@Ballaholic29414
@Ballaholic29414 Жыл бұрын
Did you get your issue fixed? If so what fixed it
@dthorne4602
@dthorne4602 Жыл бұрын
Did the fix work?
@NickLavallee
@NickLavallee 2 жыл бұрын
What a crate video! I love learning from people who have a passion to do the right thing the right way with thoroughness right equipment etc. I really appreciate the example I’m trying to learn as much as I can about my truck in this video was very helpful.
@ralfsautomotive
@ralfsautomotive 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love it, bolt on that aftermarket crap and add a minimum of 50HP. It is funny every time I see that. Great Video!
@ValentinArzola
@ValentinArzola 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 4.6liter V8 on a Ford F150 210k miles. I made some maintenance parts changes changes which included the following: Intake Manifold Fuel injectors PVC valve with new cover Coils, spark plugs, VVT sensors, camshaft position sensors, didn't change phasers. After all those changes, initially it was running a little rough until eventually cleared up on its own. Checked codes and everything cleared up for about a month. This past Sunday, I decided to run the truck on third and second gear going up a mountain just to give those gears a workout on the transmission. Going downhill I put it back on drive and ended up eventually at a stop light and the truck started to vibrate like crazy. I could tell the timing was off, but as soon as I gave it gas, accelerated it stopped vibrating ran fine until my next full stop where it vibrated and died. Had a hard time turning it back on with several stallings. The odd thing was that no codes were given out by the computer the engine light never turned on but the oil spout icon did. I was eventually able to turn it on drive it home. Weirder thing is, got home and it was back to normal no more timing issues it has been several days now, and oil spout icon light turned off and it hasn't happened again. My guess is I have an oil pressure problem and maybe phasers are sticking, and/ or the oil pump needs replacement. Really need your opinion. What do you think? I would appreciate it your opinion.
@ValentinArzola
@ValentinArzola 4 жыл бұрын
By the way all ford parts. Except coils and denso spark plugs
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 4 жыл бұрын
4.6L doesn't use phasers or vvt.
@ValentinArzola
@ValentinArzola 4 жыл бұрын
@@DiscretesignalsPfaff! oh yes it does. Want the part numbers?
@mrgcav
@mrgcav 3 жыл бұрын
Good information to know. Aftermarket parts are soposed to be better quality than OEM. Guess this is an exception. Great video.
@NZIGNANTI
@NZIGNANTI 3 жыл бұрын
Not for ford
@brucefisher838
@brucefisher838 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this DIY video! Just got a’12 F150 EcoBoost 6cyl and P0303 came up. Cyl 3 has misfire. I got it back to firing correctly and think it was the coil. Much Grass Amigo!
@arlannavasa7527
@arlannavasa7527 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video .. By the way i am also a ford technician from the philippines .. It helped me a lot with your videos ..
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 3 жыл бұрын
When I run into mysteries like this I swap the coil and the plug to test both parts in one shot, but NOT both parts from one cylinder. Take the plug from #1 and coil from#3, or whatever cylinders give the easiest access on the engine you're working on. The extra minute spent swapping the plugs could save a lot more time.
@EnthusiastsGarage
@EnthusiastsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
People are quick to knock OEM but it’s usually pretty good stuff.
@toddcook8824
@toddcook8824 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the original thing that required for your vehicle
@rinunculartoo3006
@rinunculartoo3006 4 жыл бұрын
That was interesting as I had same problem with my 2015 Ford Fusion 2.0 L Ecoboost, also on No. 2 cylinder. Service dept changed the plug which never really fixed the problem. They never changed the coil. Problem never went away but remained intermittent.
@EricFortuneJr.
@EricFortuneJr. 4 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket is ok (for some components) but for vital ignition components, sensors etc I only use OE. I also do OE transmission fluid changes every 30,000 miles at $20 per qt, but it’s well worth the peace of mind. I use dealer parts and don’t have to make very many trips because of it..
@ernestochavez2829
@ernestochavez2829 2 жыл бұрын
Same here what was the issue I'm dealing with thesame problem right now misfires get on the gas it starts shaking new coils plugs new injectors
@SkyCop430
@SkyCop430 3 жыл бұрын
This video was extremely helpful diagnosing and self repairing my misfire on my 2013! Thanks!
@Chris-Fennimore
@Chris-Fennimore 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Another lesson learned the hard way.
@MustangNthusiest
@MustangNthusiest 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.. love how you diagnosed it. Saved alot of time and money for the customer.
@1tufgt
@1tufgt 4 жыл бұрын
Love watching your tidbits about ford issues. I recently noticed a rough idle during startup from sitting a bit and wonder if I need to change out my plugs. It's a 2013 F150 3.5 Ecoboost. I just hit 50k miles.
@laidback1134
@laidback1134 3 жыл бұрын
Your great! You do a hell of a job and ty for the explanations and being so thorough.
@Jay071990
@Jay071990 2 жыл бұрын
I use the exact same trim tool to remove the red locking tabs works great without breaking them. Thanks for the Videos
@williamdyckman9704
@williamdyckman9704 4 жыл бұрын
Thank for the video, I own a Ford 150.
@Brandr1
@Brandr1 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Been having some misfire in #4 .....hoping to not have to replace the coil, but if I do the link you provided is far less expensive than the local dealership.
@babarumraisin4863
@babarumraisin4863 4 жыл бұрын
I still watch your videos even though I sold my truck a year ago!
@piercesteadys6601
@piercesteadys6601 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. The scan tool is awesome too.
@michaelambrose5438
@michaelambrose5438 4 жыл бұрын
Videos are very informative. They helped me repair a few things on my 06 f150. Keep it up👍
@josephiffrig7703
@josephiffrig7703 4 жыл бұрын
Hi buddy love your channel. I bought an F150 used 2018 with 15,000 miles on it. At around 18,000 miles I took it to a dealer because I heard a rattle Coming from under the driver side or in the middle of the truck. I told the dealer it’s more prominent on cold starts so I left it at the dealer overnight so they could hear the rattle. The dealer got back to me and told me it was my cam phasers and they had to be replaced luckily they were under warranty so they replaced them. But when I pick the truck up a few days later I still noticed the rattle when I took it back to the dealer and left it overnight I purposely showed up in the morning so I could point out the rattle. Mechanic listened and he told me it was the exhilarate trans pump and it’s a natural characteristic of the pump to rattle for a little bit until it fills with fluid I would think there should be a check valve to keep the fluid in there it doesn’t make sense to me is he right
@wayne-oo
@wayne-oo 4 жыл бұрын
Great diagnostic skills !!
@medfly101
@medfly101 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 2012 ford 3.5 ecoboost aswell. Had the exact same problem with the factory coils. After I switched from the factory coils(which 2 went bad) to the msd's, and changed the spark plugs.I have not had a problem. What Doesn't make sense is that the coils would go on cyclinder # 2, just like mine. So what you are telling me is that if he had a factory coil in, the coil would not of went. Something has to be making these coils go bad. So what do i do, Switch my Msd's for factory again? Could anything else make coils go bad? As always, thank you for making these videos. Without your services i would not have to confidence to work on my own truck..
@marcocubillos9706
@marcocubillos9706 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, that is exactly what it is happening with my 2014 eco.. 🙏
@NZIGNANTI
@NZIGNANTI 3 жыл бұрын
Right around 60k miles?
@carlsowell8099
@carlsowell8099 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know how to do stuff on my truck. It's scary how hi tech my truck is.
@The.Consultant.
@The.Consultant. 6 ай бұрын
Gullo Ford in Conroe, TX (North Houston) just charged $1,000 for a tune up to fix this exact issue even AFTER I watched this video and asked if simply replacing the plugs would be the fix. They said No, I desperately need my engine de carbonized, injectors cleaned. I’m pretty furious because they had my truck for 2 weeks a week before this and replaced a turbo and nobody noticed a thing and said my truck was running perfect now….. then I break down on I10 in Katy with bluish smoke pouring out the exhaust and the truck shaking badly due to misfires. Now I’ll never take my truck to them again because I can’t trust them. If anyone knows a honest and good 2nd Gen Raptor mechanic in Houston please comment below. Thanks for great videos !!!
@frozenstang3868
@frozenstang3868 4 жыл бұрын
Your video's are great ,you see so many more issue' that just dont show up too often for an independant. When i got to the part of the video where you revealed the MSD coils laughed. I have replaced so many of those and usually by the set. Why MSD would shame themselves selling those is beyond me,pure snake oil.
@ozzstars_cars
@ozzstars_cars 4 жыл бұрын
The second I saw the red coils I pretty much new what the problem was. 😬
@Shiver2002
@Shiver2002 4 жыл бұрын
thats how I felt. I saw MSD and knew.
@AKJeeper
@AKJeeper 4 жыл бұрын
When he mentioned the customer did a spark plug/coil change out, I figured there were junk aftermarket coils on the engine.
@socalltd
@socalltd 4 жыл бұрын
Had a similar issue with coils that favored Yellow in the brand and lasted a few weeks. went back to OE and never did it again.
@TheMechanicj
@TheMechanicj 4 жыл бұрын
My customer bought 6 coils off eBay for 30$ shipped I told him it wouldn’t work no warranty on the job I installed them had coil codes on all 6 coils it ran fine 2009 caddy called him said no way I say yes way install 6 Bosch coils all issues are gone
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 4 жыл бұрын
My MSD coils work better than my FoMoCo coils. I also have to gap down my plugs to 0.026
@billthompson5644
@billthompson5644 4 жыл бұрын
I had an 89 Plymouth Horizon with a 2.2. I changed the plugs it had a horrible miss, it was an internal crack where the spark travelled through the porcelain. I cannot think of what they call that piece inside of the porcelain, but they were brand new Champion plugs.
@mjterryjr
@mjterryjr Жыл бұрын
Changed Coilpacks, plugs, did CAC mod, and it was STILL random misfiring. Checked the intake an and Throttle body MAFS. Clean However. The one on top of the plenum was completely caked with oil sludge from passenger side PCV. Cleaned plenum air sensor. Installed oil catch can. Runs like a scalded ape!!!
@e.b.6766
@e.b.6766 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Great troubleshooting technique for this situation.
@retirementplan5882
@retirementplan5882 4 жыл бұрын
Low amp probe also works great for quick coil ramp test
@michaelmurray121
@michaelmurray121 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, you’re the the best in this field respect brother always love your videos 👊🏿
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Ford guy and even I know to go straight Ford/Motorcraft, even a respectable brand like MSD will cause problems.
@rickchambers73
@rickchambers73 3 жыл бұрын
There is MSD China stuff out there. Beware
@glennstiller7616
@glennstiller7616 3 жыл бұрын
I use Ford parts when I can and when still available (can still get some things for my 95 F250), but when it was $120/coil (Canadian) at Ford and $67 for after market (and those weren't even the cheapest) for my 02 Explorer 4.6 with (at the time) 120,000 miles on it, I gave them a try. 2 years in and no problems. Maybe original Ford coils back in the day weren't that great either?
@prospexican
@prospexican Жыл бұрын
i see aftermarket coils, i hope and not the issue, i keep looking at it.i hope and my ford flex was that easy.
@richhansenclan
@richhansenclan 4 жыл бұрын
As always, great and informative video. Thanks!
@mseifried5
@mseifried5 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was helpful to a 2015 F150 3.5 L V-6 that loves to knock. It would be more helpful to us if you tell us the spark plug gap you use, what was the torque you estimate when tightening the plug and confirm the cylinder numbering sequence. I've seen them numbered two different ways now. I am very frustrated with this truck, I only went Ford because the wife wanted it.
@williamlewis1164
@williamlewis1164 2 жыл бұрын
When I change the plugs I used a gap of 30
@tongtaing5902
@tongtaing5902 3 жыл бұрын
I just own a used eco boost f150 2012 it’s misfire cyclender 456.I watch most of your videos I still need help. This is my very first Ford truck I own.
@ajdube9967
@ajdube9967 Жыл бұрын
Last year my number six coil was bad. Tried an aftermarket coil and it only lasted two weeks! Bought a Motorcraft and so far so good and new plugs but for whatever reason I'm getting a misfire when I'm on the highway doing 70'ish and punch it. No engine light💁🏻‍♂️
@michaelrobertson8795
@michaelrobertson8795 Ай бұрын
A lot of newer vehicle issues come down to old dialectic grease on connectors and they dry out and get moisture in them and they don't work right, so always regress all your fittings for your wiring.
@shonepolk9112
@shonepolk9112 4 жыл бұрын
I had this issue once on cylinder 5 on my 5.4. Replaced plugs(uggggh) and replaced the coil. Fixed issue for a while then it started again. Had to drive it as I was headed home from work trip, got home replaced it with oem coils, fixed issue but raw fuel caused catalyst code. Ruined the cats and had to replace. Never had issue since, that was 4 years ago
@Mikes360JTAGS
@Mikes360JTAGS 4 жыл бұрын
Prime example of why I refuse to use aftermarket parts on my truck
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 4 жыл бұрын
Multiple Spark Deficiencies Great video as always Brian. So much chinesium made nowadays, I see it all day in 6.8 V10s in U-Haul trucks.
@jessej22
@jessej22 4 жыл бұрын
I missed the reference to the anti-seize on plugs. Yes or no in your opinion? Love your channel. (I drive an 06 F150 5.4 with 85K on it)
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but a very small amount
@TwentytenS4B8
@TwentytenS4B8 3 жыл бұрын
Those aftermarket coils can also burn out the drivers in the PCM. There's a reason Ford put millions of dollars in R&D on these components. Use Autolite\Motorcraft.
@alaautotonics4403
@alaautotonics4403 4 жыл бұрын
Great diagnose as always
@jaandel1
@jaandel1 4 жыл бұрын
True some ford parts are cheap in the dealer than amazon ... autoparts or autozone also works fine... i rther to buy oem parts are not expensive as many people think just call ford and ask the price... then u will compare with others... some aftermarket have been working for me fine.... use blue scan tools works also great... keep it mind labor is more expansive that parts itself
@FatalTony
@FatalTony 6 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2011 3.5 eco boost with 158k on her & Cylinder 2 is having a misfire but good to know to stick with oem parts for fords. I’ve been a Chevy guy for awhile now but kinda said screw it & bought a Ford so I hope replacing the plugs & coils fixes the issue. I’m guessing it’s time for them to be replaced anyways almost being at 160k miles
@wyomingcowboy501
@wyomingcowboy501 4 жыл бұрын
That looks like a good scan tool. I own HP Tunes, and it is an awesome tuner but a little "bulky". Having said that, yes I would buy it again. However, I really like the graphic layout on the one you use in your video. What do you use and where can I purchase it? 2013 F150, Eco, 210,000 miles, ran synthetic mobile oil since original purchase and no issues...not even timing chain! Mike
@billwasylenko1599
@billwasylenko1599 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the customer has the original coils in the luggage compartment? That would be nice. Hopefully he didn’t throw them out. Nice easy misfire Diag!
@dcfgarage
@dcfgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Informative, as always! Thanks!
@FortressMT
@FortressMT 3 жыл бұрын
Great material!! Kicking myself cuz i just got my new MSD coils and new plugs, ready to install. Just bought a 2012 with 92k on it. Currently have a misfire on #3 and guessing that it's time for original coils and plugs to go bye-bye. Hope my coils do better than your client's.
@kelleycaptain73
@kelleycaptain73 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Job. Thanks so much for taking the time.
@ffggxfhhvgffhgdtygxyggeyhgfhfg
@ffggxfhhvgffhgdtygxyggeyhgfhfg 3 жыл бұрын
Also look for the scoring on plugs porcelain per ford's TSB. Which they state change all plugs and coils if you find it.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 4 жыл бұрын
Good video and find on the bad coil
@jefferypresnell4368
@jefferypresnell4368 Жыл бұрын
Wow, you get about 3 mpg better than I do. I have both sensors to change asap. Maybe it'll help some. My mpgs have always read 13.3 though.
@nbrowser
@nbrowser 4 жыл бұрын
heh...this is why you stick with Ford parts in certain areas of your vehicle...I use Motorcraft plugs in my '98 F150...still rocks her two original coil packs on the 4.6L Triton..a never openend 4.6 at that too. 529,000 kilometers on the clock and still...yes STILL going strong!
@dustin9035
@dustin9035 4 жыл бұрын
Not that it's ford's fault on this truck, but damn, another coil related misfire problem. The f150 needs to come with a emergency kit behind the seat with plugs, coils and tools to replace them in case of emergency. Post delivery addendum:. You will have a misfire one day. Your solution kit is behind the seat with the bottle jack.
@rickl7024
@rickl7024 4 жыл бұрын
Msd coils are made for race cars,, not every day drivers
@mojunk19
@mojunk19 4 жыл бұрын
Oyveyowitz Shekelstein Nostrilberg woo tell us how you really feel!
@markk3652
@markk3652 4 жыл бұрын
@Oyveyowitz Shekelstein Nostrilberg most 5.4 3v issues come from lack of maintenance. The 2 piece plugs were a dirty trick for everyone. And, the 5w20 spec oil did not help these last any longer, just made milage numbers seem better. Regular oil changes, motorcraft filters, and upgrading to full synthetic 5w30 kept my 5.4 running great for a long time.
@flashg1331
@flashg1331 2 жыл бұрын
Very good videos that are very helpful.
@jsjizzaone3590
@jsjizzaone3590 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tech nice vid once again. Maybe if u wanted to dissect the bad coil you could do a continuity test somehow between the upper and lower part of the coil!
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 4 жыл бұрын
no the primary and secondary is separated by a gap.
@Discretesignals
@Discretesignals 4 жыл бұрын
Resistance test of coil windings is not a reliable test because you can't test the coil under load where the problem shows up. I flip the coil upside down and take a 12 volt incendscent test light attached to ground and stick it down the coil boot. Then start the engine and pull the tip of the light out and see how far the spark can jump. You can tell when you have a weak pencil coil. Don't let the coil fire without something for the spark to go to or you'll cause damage. Usually there is a reason coils go bad and it is usually from working to hard. Higher than normal compression and lean cylinder fuel charge can cause coils to fail prematurely.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 4 жыл бұрын
My MSD coils have worked a little better than my FoMoCo coils. I still use SP-542 plugs gapped down to 0.026 tho. No idle stumble, smooth light load acceleration as well, solid WOT acceleration. When FoMoCo coils are $90/ea and I can get a set of MSD for $200 I don’t see why I wouldn’t get them. I do have extra coils because the MSDs time to warranty the coils.
@RadDadisRad
@RadDadisRad 4 жыл бұрын
I also own 4 ecoboost vehicles and no ignition issues.
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