New Wharfedale Super Linton CRAZY GOOD and Crazy Different!

[@petercomeau2190]

Cheapaudioman, sorry you were a bit confused by the sensitivity specifications. Traditionally speaker sensitivity is measured at 1kHz and that's what goes into the specifications. However we judge sensitivity by ear over a wide range where the ear is highly sensitive from around 800Hz - 5kHz and the Super Linton offers up to 2dB extra power in the room here. So that's why they sound a tad louder. You're right about running the speakers in. If you love Super Linton now you're going to be amazed how they're going to develop after a few more weeks of use. I'm so pleased you expressed the difference between the Linton 85 and Super Linton so well and that you love playing music on both of them which, after all, is what hi-fi should all be about.

[@xsamitt]

Love the extra take on the lintons! Really love to learn allI can! I own the lintons 85th.

[@Gibsondude]

I have loved your audio impression/review/thoughts/ videos for 3 years now. Thank you!

[@T_Burd_75]

Nice to see Sith Audio come out with a new product. I was hoping that they would run some Black Friday deals.

[@Zimmy_1981]

GOOD thing they didn't get revenge 😅

[@leonardgucciardo8386]

I have the 85th anniversary Lintons attached to a Wilsenton R8 and the realism is incredible. If you close your eyes you would think you were center stage. Price wise I don’t think you can get a better set of speakers to work with tube amps. The efficiency of these speakers makes it possible to get theater or an intimate club sound right in your living room. Put about 100 hours on them and they really explode with the range they were designed for. Would love to move up to the super Lintons but I don’t have the room for another set of speakers. That’s the problem with the hobby. You have to have room for all that electronic candy.

[@renatomorais8136]

The woofer is the same but with a more powerful motor. I think it's the same deal with the midrange and there's absorbing material in its rear chamber, chamber that already existed on the original one. Cabinets are built differently too and there's two crossovers with better materials instead of one in the original. Plus the new tweeter that you've mentioned.

[@chriswindham9868]

That crooked lamp shade has me doing a puppy head tilt..

[@djoleradosavljevic2580]

The super linton's bass has an extended bass shelf design which means you can and should put them closer to the wall. The regular Linton has normal bass extension and that is why it gets boomy if put closer to the wall.

[@TriAmpMyFi]

. Where are you seeing the frequency response charts & crossover order specs for the shelf? I don't see any Thiele specs for driver extension either Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊

[@wyup]

You shouldn't put a speaker close to the wall to get more bass, I think it's a trade-off cause you can get resonances. A speaker should be designed to provide bass by itself and be put into the room for optimal response. Something may be wrong with this speaker when two reviewers say it has less bass.

[@almightyian]

You know its a good day when CheapAudioMan uploads! - Still loving the 75th linton..

[@adsph]

Sith audio comeback ! Sweet. Appreciate your take Randy.

[@Feliciano12v]

The Sith Lord has spoken. The pill that takes you beyond Audio Nirvana. 🎵

[@mikeb1039]

I think Wharfedale recognized the reputation and long term popularity of the Linton. And took the opportunity to use that to take it to another profit level. Works for me as it moves them out of the "I'd like to own those someday" category. Not that i wouldn't spend that money, but at 65 I doubt I hear the difference you do. I just popped for Elac floor model DB6.2 for $750 pair that are playing in the background breaking in. With sub, i doubt much is going to sound better enough to matter to me. :) I like this place in my musical journey.

[@Old_Sailor85]

Right there with you. Can't hear above 12k-13k. I'm pretty much done chasing gear. I stopped with Magnepans several years ago. Good enough is good enough at this age.

[@hotdog9262]

listen to dali as well if you have the opportunity. significantly better then wharfedale imo

[@a.j9645]

How can anyone say that this guy isnt pure gold? Sure he reads from spec sheats, sure he doesnt use super fancy words and sure he looks like the guy next door, but... He is the man when it comes to reviewing speakers in my book! He experiences and reviews things so I can understand and relate. Two👍👍from🇸🇪

[@Brian_Romska]

Sith Audio is back!!! Nice review, thanks again Randy!

[@theunrealwife9049]

How much coffee has Randy had? Lol...I want to believe too Randy!

[@JohnScheppler]

The Sith Blue Pill will take you to your end game audiophile journey, but the Sith Red pill will continue to take you down the rabbit hole of Neverending Audiophile Quest.

[@steveh545]

In that case the blue pill might be worth $1023 or whatever lol.

[@Audiodreamer192-24]

What an adorable puppy . Speaker is nice to 👍

[@s.daniel9224]

I’m a linton owner and several q acoustic owner. Something about that British sound I really like.

[@Norman-bone13]

Me too. I’m running Wharfedale bookshelves and a Cambridge integrated amp. Simple & sweet sounds. 👍🏼😎

[@Arthax83]

Which Q model do you have, and how would you compare the sound? Im buying a new setup and has read and watched raving reviews about the concept 50´s which I intend to listen to. But the Lintons (OG and Super) and also very praised. For me, the looks is the issue as they would look to vintage in our livingroom.

[@beslemeto]

That think is richness and naturalness.

[@TheGmr140]

They look and sound amazing 😊

[@PascalNuman]

Thanks Randy! This is a video where the Linton community was waiting for! ❤

[@wallyj2000]

Hi, thanks for sharing so did the Bass improve at all? Thanks.

[@paulhanlon5112]

I have ownd the Wharfedale Linton for the last 4yrs ( about 200hrs run time)...one thing i will mention is that these Speakers love Current...Anything less and the results will be compromised...Krell..Naim..Arcam...Rega...and so on !!!

[@Schlock3000]

I disagree. The Lintons are super easy to run, no matter the equipment.

[@paulhanlon5112]

@Schlock3000 Easy to drive is one thing, but getting them to open up to their full sonic signature is another thing completely, the Linton as well as the Denton need and should have Amplifiers with plenty of sizzle and Drive, they will poke along with amps of 30/50 RMS but 80/100 RMS and beyond is where their true sonic abilities are revealed !

[@wardprocter2371]

Did you compare the two using any other sources? Seems like using the a10 with class A bias and loudness turned on might be colouring the sound compared to a class D or even a neutral class AB amp. I’m running my 85s off an NAD 3050 and I don’t seem to missing out on anything in the upper midrange and treble.

[@m3n9111]

glad to see Sith Audio is still supporting the channel!

[@MOzarkMike]

I love my 85th Lintons. With the lower bass range and lower impedance I wonder if the Supers would overdraw my amplifiers. My listening DB levels are usually below 90 but on occasions I go pedal to the metal. If you mentioned the efficiency rating I missed it.

[@kevinyoungM14EBR]

This video must be a top 3 contender for cheapaudioman video of the year. Funny and informative plus a puppy... what's not to love about that. Even though I have an opportunity to buy a set of like new 85th anniversary Wharf rats in walnut for less than $700, I am going to stick with my two sets of ADS speakers that I bought cheap for a total of less than $600.

[@shipsahoy1793]

👍Good review, Randy ! Options are good. I like speakers with different "personalities" also. Painful to have just one set. Need to have at least one full range set that's very revealing for stereo and another set for stereo that's warm and forgiving when running less than perfect source material. And then there's HT, small rooms and near field monitoring. It never ends lol ..and then there's monitors and headphones, etc. 😂😂

[@eltucamote3903]

I love my walnut Linton 85th speakers that I grab at the original price $1,250.00 not $1,499.00 here in US😍

[@superspeeder]

Randy, are you shorting out the speakers next to the ones you’re listening to? If not, the one that’s not playing will act like a bass trap and absorb certain frequencies from the one playing. This would be especially important with two large cabinets placed close together like this… they’re acoustically coupled with one resonating out of phase with the other. Could be one reason the Super sounds a bit leaner down low, especially if it’s tuned lower than the 85 beside it.

[@denis4072]

I think the Husky is very anxios to tell viewers his side of the story.

[@T_Burd_75]

@@denis4072 It's probably similar to Triumph The Insult Dog. 🐶💩

[@michaelstaruszkiewicz8798]

I have enjoyed KEF's Uni-Q sound since Gen.1 and my 7.2.2 HT system is all KEF Uni-Q! I would call the sound neutral and it handles my metal, classic rock, folk, as well as baroque & classical music with no coloration. I do listen to my live rock recordings with my JBL Studio S38II's.

[@johncallison4745]

Great review. I hope you can get your hands on Tekton Design Nebo yes they are $4k but, oh my goodness they are simply amazing and do magic also on many levels. On another note I feel glad to meet someone who drinks as much if not more coffee than I do. Love your videos. hope you are doing well and Happy Thanksgiving early.

[@Feliciano12v]

Poison

[@stevezeidman7224]

Too funny today, Randy! I laughed the whole vid.

[@litesaber54yi3]

The Lindon stands are almost better than the speakers themselves. Wow are they amazing

[@AudiophileStooge]

If the sensitivity is the same, perhaps there's an efficiency difference between the two sets of drivers? "Speaker efficiency" refers to the percentage of electrical power that is converted into sound by a speaker, while "speaker sensitivity" is a measurement of how loud a speaker will play at a specific distance with a given amount of power input. This may explain the "loudness" difference.

[@shipsahoy1793]

The supers are slightly louder in the midrange and treble area for the same input stimuli, hence are slightly louder..

[@michaelbaniak2903]

How did the Super Lintons sound with your Unico Primo that you gave rave reviews?

[@Osuna..]

Las compre hace 3 dias y se nota una barbaridad con las anteriores Linton. Graves más limpios, el tweteer es fantástico.

[@dgdave2673]

The OCD in me kicks in seeing the tilted lamp shade ! 😢

[@thomaswhitestone8807]

I would never unsubscribe from you Randy. NEVER!

[@skeezer180]

I have the linton 85 added a sub Rel 5ti wow just try it

[@ENGBriseB]

Great Sounding speakers.

[@DarinSkye-yo5yi]

I found out that all my better than average speakers I've bought brand new. I've had to give them some excersize, breaking them in for a few months . Not necessarily abusing them, only feeding them the righteous volume they deserve.

[@adamcanterbury]

inch and a half is Life Changing

[@samuelbadkinsiii9819]

Can both of these be played at lower volumes, less 70 db?

[@ginom407]

Thanks Randy! For a cool grand less I'm sure I'd be happy with the 85's. Great Review!👍👍👍

[@perlman7376]

The Lintons are now $1500 with the stands. I was also looking at the B&W 603 S3 floor standers. Any thoughts from anyone?

[@robertmear]

It's about time Sith Audio got back in the game!

[@s.daniel9224]

Appreciate this video. Helped me make a decision. I think I’m going to try these. I can always place my Lintons on my second system. They’re too good to get rid of….

[@Reidy82]

Really enjoy my Lintons. Especially now I've swapped my Hypex ncore for my old, faithful NAD C370.. Brought the lintons to life. The class D just didn't work well.

[@ronaldweed6103]

Awesome! I 'm going to purchase these speakers

[@Zimmy_1981]

😮😊

[@scottmole7819]

Ah the return of sith audio. 😂

[@TuiCatNZ]

I want to see what's different on the inside! I think consumers deserve to know about the cabinet construction, drivers and crossover. It's our money after all.

[@dwahnaslowdown8887]

New drinking game: Every time Randy pushes his glasses up. Wait... no, don't do that. You'll die. As for the speaker- I feel that the price difference is too great. Are they $1k better?

[@georgeswanson9483]

I want the Super Linton Kwesi Johnson edition. Gonna need even bigger woofers though.

[@StefanUrkel]

how does this compare to KLH Model 5?

[@jeremyelliott9831]

Compared to KLH model 5? Do thesupers fill in that mid base and low mid missing from them? How does the imaging compare? EDIT: I got these today. Definitely better than the standard lintion. Much more presence, More/ better highs without the distortion. noticably lower bass and a bit tighter. NOT muddy anymore at all. Good enough for me to keep them, and I knew it right away. The Standard linton and KLH 5, I listend endlessly for 2 months and couldn't decide, so I sent them both back. They each had things that I just could get past. Make no mistake, these do not have ultra precise hifi imaging. but, they are pretty good enough. The model 5's have better imaging and tighter stronger bass, but they also have a huge hole at the low mid crossover and it made me nuts listening to jazz drums and voices. Model5 can also get too strident with some voices. The 85th linton jsut lounded muddy and distorted to me. The Super linton doesn't have those issues at all. Their improved bass driver is noticeable and makes the difference. I think they trade a bit of imaging for never sounding harsh. I'll take it. At this price point, this is it. Really good MidFI all rounder. Cheers!

[@eddents]

I approve of this awesome video. However my Grandmother who has passed, would have a thing or two to say about the coffee slurping. Pro hobby tip: Cut those blue audio pills in half to stretch your HiFi accessory budget dollars.

[@IRON_PANDA]

What an awesome shirt, Bo-Bandy!

[@michaelgarnett1372]

Husky s best bass trap

[@pyrolusite]

So glad to see a Sith commercial...finally! 😀

[@JohnEasterday-j6c]

Nice one Randall. I mean two.

[@eddietours3728]

I love the Super the Audio Scale is top

[@divadgnol67]

"That's what she said"

[@TioCocolDG]

My thanks to the smart mind that I consider posting your videos in my Spanish language. Thank you.

[@EricRhodeslives]

Yeah the dude with the vintage audio store KZbin channel Santa took several weeks for those speakers to break in so it's no surprise that they sound different.

[@samuellord8576]

Sith Audio Strikes Back FTW!!!

[@joecartwright9221]

The Crossover parts are much, much better.

[@Darrylizer1]

Omg, so many Lintons! The brochure promised some Lintons, but not so many!

[@adamcanterbury]

You got me crakin' up with the I wanna believe...lmao I say that all the time...about that and many other things heheheheh😅😅

[@nasdkhan254]

Auditioned today and I bought them . They are better than the Linton 85 which will now go in the tv room . Listen for yourself

[@Norman-bone13]

Thanks Randy. I probably inquired about this in your “First Impressions” video, but I’ll ask again. Is there any way you could review the Wharfedale Super Denton? I’ve been intrigued by the 85th Linton since learning of them through your “Yowsa!” Review when they debuted, but I’m afraid they’re too big for my smaller living space in retirement now. The smaller three-way design of the Super Denton might be my best option. I’d love to hear your thoughts and impressions on them. Excuse me if you already reviewed them. I couldn’t find anything when I searched. Thanks for all you do for the audio community! And, I bet many others would like to hear your thoughts on the Super Denton too.

[@johntucker5994]

You did a great job on this review Randy! Question: on a purely subjective level, which speaker did you find more emotionally involving and less fatiguing for long listening?

[@cheapaudioman]

Tough to answer. I’ve had the 85th for so long. For me I think the Supers are more engaging now… but it’s something that could change over time I suppose. They’re just so different.

[@johntucker5994]

@@cheapaudioman Thanks for replying.

[@johntucker5994]

It really does come down to musical taste, and our tastes can and often do change over time and with increased experience and exposure to higher priced gear. Of the higher priced gear that I still felt had some warmth (which I like) and enough clarity, I really loved the Sonner Audio Legato Duo, a two-way floorstander (~$10k) and Gershman Acoustics (any model). I am looking for an emotional connection with the music, which for me was easier in pre-digital times with vinyl only, but now I don't want to have a record collection. So, for me I will gladly give up some transparency and clarity for a bit more forgiving and emotionally involving presentation.

[@d.charlesberti9002]

I bought a used pair of the 85's and have really enjoyed them. The previous owner had an "upgraded" crossover put in from a man who goes by "The Crossover Chef". I never heard the originals, but these really sounded great (especially when I gave them more space). I still was itching to make an upward rather than sideways move with my speakers, so when someone offered a new-in-box pair of Revel Performa 3 F206 for a really good price, I bought them. I went back and forth but ultimately decided that I liked the Lintons better. Now I've sold the Linton 85th and am buying the Supers. I'm still trying to sell the Revels without losing my shirt! Someone asked me what I liked better about the $1,500 Lintons vs. the $3,500 Revels, and one word summed it up for me...emotion.

[@johntucker5994]

@ I love your comment because in my experience I generally prefer speakers that are emotionally involving with no listening fatigue over speakers which are less so but are in many ways technically better (ex. better bass, better highs etc). For me I value tonality above all, and that means a special midrange. I don’t mind if the highs roll off as I detest stridency and sharpness. The very best speakers to me are able to combine warmth, excellent tonality, low distortion and a spacious soundstage with precise imaging.

[@natecrouchphotographyllc1799]

The big question, KLH Model 5 or Super Linton? Better clarity, balance, tonality, sound stage and natural sounding. Oooor.... The PSB Passif 50?

[@Michiel1972]

Bass extension of the Linton Heritage is not 40Hz, but 35Hz.

[@paulcridland5230]

I do believe :)

[@jacquesduplessis6175]

Idea for the next video, maybe just review an audio system that was first discovered in Roswell🤷‍♂😄

[@JohnScheppler]

You mentioned speaker of the year i wondering how they compared to the other new speaker the Elac? I know there's a huge price difference, but I believe both are warmer speakers.

[@justinschlicher631]

I like that music playing during the intro. What is it?

[@rickc661]

wondering, since this was a tiny mention - switching from. ' A to B ' spk sets ...... at listening level , say high 80 db do Ya think doing so damages something...? way back I used to do that a lot, just for fun. and blew speaker relays on 2 different amps. stopped my comparos.

[@ericgonzales854]

What is the $60 piece that up'ed your streamer?

[@skylabsaudio]

I believe! =)

[@geoffreydebrito2653]

$60. to improve the WiiM Ultra? Did I miss it? Or did you have a brain fart?

[@mayassa58]

I must have missed it too

[@christopherguse]

If you want to believe did you watch Lue in Washington on the 13th?!! History will show Elizondo as a hero.... maybe. Only the NHI know... maybe. With the Supers out now the Lintons 85 are entering the sale and used market at interesting prices.... keeping an eye out!

[@TracyJonesTraceElements]

Thoughts on the Super Lintons vs your memory of the KLH Model 5s? I remember the initial comparisons between the Linton 75th and the KLH talked about warmth on the Wharfdales…

[@gh00al]

I would love to hear about this too.

[@purrito4424]

I took the green pill and... I love you, man.

[@hifibloke]

the longer you listen, the more you will get used to the sound...that's it

[@felipencl]

How does the super linton compare to the sp8?

[@gg0297]

That puppy is so freaking cute!!!

[@mikecarron5284]

Was anybody else just waiting for the dog to grab the remote and run? :)

[@Old_Sailor85]

Thanks for showing the dust, 😉. I have four dogs, and lots of dust!

[@Paul-mx4fo]

Randy, I want to buy Lintons 85s or Svs prime towers. Which would you recommend? My lounge is bigger than medium, I sit 2.5 - 3 metres distance from the speakers. I've got Dali Oberon 5s atm and I love them

[@TheMrStelin]

Wondering how my old pair of JBL 4311's compare.

[@kenneths.perlman1112]

He’s not fat, just a little husky

[@acadjukanovic6855]

This or kef r3 meta ?

[@TwoBlackMarks]

You should compare them to the Wharfedale Linton 3

[@Rob1972Gem]

The British sound 😛

[@donjaun540]

How would you say this Warf compares to their 4.2❓

[@richardstearns621]

Thanks for the review! How would you compare Super Linton to the Opera Prima 2015?

[@geoffreydebrito2653]

I'm unfamiliar with the Opera line, so I visited the 2015 speaker's web page. The direct competitor of the Opera is the Paradigm Founder 40B. I suspect the Opera is a warmer speaker than the 40B. Going on specs, the 40B looks to be a much easier speaker to drive. (Nominal 8 vs 4 ohms). The Opera's minimum 3.2 Ohms makes it a bit incompatible with REGA amps as they don't match up well with very low impedance speakers. That also makes the Paradigm a more tube amp friendly speaker than the Opera. Driving the 40B with a good tube amp might give one a fine marriage of clarity and warmth.

[@richardstearns621]

@ Opera Speakers are an Italian company and the Prima 2015’s are their bookshelf models. Randy reviewed them a few months ago and at that time he considered them some of best speakers he had heard around the $2500 price range.

[@AlexGrGR66]

Find the new Super Denton which is 3way and more affordable!

[@msdprojekt]

Which amps are everyone using to power the original Lintons? I’m using a Sabaj a20a but don’t feel it has enough power for the low end.

[@Z4d0k]

@msdprojekt I’ve found the Leak 230 to work well with my Lintons.

[@CinemaDemocratica]

My gosh, first the QUAD amp/preamp combo magically shows up on every reviewer's radar at the exact same instant and now, less than two weeks later, it's the Wharfedale Super Linton -- I've been *so* gullible about these YT review channels and for so, so very long. It kinda breaks my heart to have been that stupid.