NEW Windows Zinc 23H2 Feature Demo - Copilot & More

[@DustyCustard]

I think what co-pilot is mainly missing is some sort of whimsical animated character based on a piece of office stationary that just ends up getting in the way of whatever it is you're trying to accomplish.

[@StringerNews1]

Well, you can get a version of Clippy that pops up at inopportune times (just like the real one) and says various non sequiturs. Unlike the original, it's freeware.

[@robspiess]

You could call it Clippit, though I suppose a nickname will come around to change that...

[@dziban303]

​@@robspiessClipGPT

[@BODDHI_RAM_PANDIT]

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[@ChrisGR93_TxS]

i bet you'll hear about security vulnerabilities and they'll ask ppl to disable it at some point (when they find out or finish collecting what they initially implemented this feature for) Just saying. From what ive seen and continue see with many companies

[@Centomila]

After 55 years we finally reach the point where a computer can say to us: “I’m sorry Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that".

[@StefenTower]

And 22 years past schedule.

[@Anankin12]

I'm gonna sue you for attempted manslaughter. I was drinking water when I read your comment

[@Centomila]

@@Anankin12 My GPT Lawyer is preparing my defense. This is what i got for now: "I shot the sheriff but I didn't shoot no deputy"

[@jussiheino]

Brilliant!

[@Walker956]

Did you know that if you move HAL-9000's letter one step to the right of the alphabet. You get IBM. Apperently Kubrik was scared of AI technology. Even back then lol.

[@srizal]

If the copilot can create a file, I believe it will introduce new security hole to our Windows.

[@menone8532]

Great point.

[@k98killer]

"Hey Windows, download every cheese burger image on the Internet."

[@StringerNews1]

"Hey Windows, silently copy all of 'my' banking transactions to the Dark Web."

[@humaj19]

@StringerNews1 I already have Cortana do that continuously. Don't you?

[@StringerNews1]

@@humaj19 no, I use Linux & KDE. And on the Windows machines I build, Cortana is one of the first things I remove, with Candy Crush etc.

[@JamesWjRose]

I was a beta tester for NT 3.1 and Win95, and one of the lucky few that got to go to the launch on Campus. I've always thought that was the moment in history when technology became mainstream. The release was part of all news broadcasts, and on the front page on all newspapers (back when those were a thing) in the world. I have felt, not proud because I did so little, but something special for being part of it. My point; I would guess you feel proud of the work you have done, the help you have been to literally millions. Bravo Dave. Thank you.

[@DavesGarage]

Welcome! Do you remember that they dyed the grass green? For some reason I always thought that was wild...

[@lyonadimral]

@@DavesGarageReally Dave? They did that? Like adding water to water to make it more wet. :P But them were the days for sure. :D

[@JamesWjRose]

@@DavesGarage I did not. I flew up from San Francisco, so I had no other perspective. Does it surprise me? No. It was a huge deal, and every detail matters... theoretically

[@JamesWjRose]

@@monkeyfx Oh yea, the mouse, all I remember, and I wish I could forget, is Bill dancing.

[@meggrobi]

Yes, and I still have the TShirt. Bug crushed.

[@mathesonstep]

The thing I am really excited about as nerdy as it is is the end task button, probably one of the most useful features here

[@zapspeed]

Finally the never group option for taskbar items is actually coming back! When this goes to production I'll finally be able to stand the idea of updating to Windows 11 :D

[@joester4life]

Seriously! This feature was needed since day 1.

[@TheStevenWhiting]

I can't until they bring back small taskbar icons.

[@t3amb4sh]

I mean, I updated cos I have 13th gen Intel (works better indeed) but this "feature" , is so old and I was wondering why the heck they removed it. It was almost a deal breaker for me. It took only 2 years to bring it back, nothing special :p

[@zapspeed]

@@TheStevenWhiting I feel that, I also much prefer the small taskbar icons but I've given up on that feature now. Even on Windows 10 it's a half-complete feature =( For some reason it doesn't support notification "icons", and some programs (like Discord) seem to ONLY bother showing that you've got new messages by using that feature. They also don't bother making the program flash on the taskbar, so I'd quite often receive messages that I didn't hear and then never know about them because it had no visual indicator while the program was minimised... Still, if they implement it properly I will move back to using small taskbar icons in a heartbeat, there's NO reason the taskbar needs to take up as much space as it does, ffs...

[@kitrod]

@@zapspeed I used small taskbar icons until I got a higher res monitor. I don't think Microsoft's current design is really accounting for lower resolution monitors, or larger 1080p monitors.

[@marcfruchtman9473]

Awesome review. Glad to see MS listened to us, regarding "Never combine" on the taskbar. Looks like some good new features coming down the road.

[@YS_Production]

If only we could also uncombine the volume, network and battery tray icons

[@TexasCat99]

It was dumb for Microsoft to remove the ability to revert to Left / show all. Removal of telemetry is still needed.

[@philipmangione]

"new"

[@nahuelcutrera]

lot's of respect for you dave. Nice to see someone on youtube who actually knows what he is talking about !! lot's of respect.

[@GugureSux]

Wowzers! I bet that in 5 or so years, the Wee11 can finally do (most of) the things my Windows 7 OS has been capable of for 14 years now!

[@toby9999]

Yeah, I'm still a big fan of Windows 7. I begrudgingly moved to W10 because I was forced to. Why MS went down the W8/8.1/10 route is beyond me.

[@allanmowz]

@@toby9999trying to force tablet mode on the masses. I refer to the current settings layout as the fat thumb interface - where no matter how fat your thumb is you can't accidently hit two buttons at once on the smallest of tablets. ie, stupid.

[@brainsironically]

A couple Windows features I'd like to see: - the ability to move the Start menu and buttons back to where they belong in the left corner - the ability to restore the files that Windows deletes off of my hard drive *and* network whenever I do an "upgrade" - the ability to block microsoft from selling my data! and to "debloat" Windows without 3rd party apps - and that whimsical animated character thing, too!

[@questioned54]

They do belong in the left corner and Windows 11 has let you put them there for 2 years now

[@WatchingPlantsGrow-si3qk]

“Never” for combine task labels….. that alone is almost enough to bring a tear to my eye. I routinely have many similar files open and having them as separate icons is amazing for me

[@ScottPlude]

Any demo of a feature involving AI is gonna be like a demo of **anything** from the 90's. It may have worked a hundred times behind the stage but the moment a recognizable face tries it in front of an audience.... well, we all know what happens next!

[@svenkarlsen2702]

Except those AI features may never behave as expected no matter how well tested/mature they become.

[@CristiNeagu]

Yep. It even failed successfully. After undoing what it did it proceeded to apologise for not being able to undo what it did.

[@mc-not_escher]

“That Ballmer Moment” [Edit: “That Tesla Moment”]

[@dh2032]

and sort bugs, Dave point out ever got out to public version is mystery, information windows (like an important one) getting lost in the corner of the screen, how hard would that been fix, and if not how over complicated and bloated has windows become, from days of XP have beta tests just been looking at display box and thing that where it needs to be, next taskmove on?

[@CristiNeagu]

@@dh2032 Not sure what you're complaining about. This is a pre-release version and it's far from finished.

[@ytuser13082011]

Even though I use Linux [previously BSDs] for a loong time now, I still feel that kick of nostalgia each time I see Windows 95/98/2000 and apps that were popular back then ... You've been incredibly privillege to be able to participate in all of this.

[@georhodiumgeo9827]

I'm with you. I still have an NT machine around here somewhere. At some point I started to really resent how Microsoft was treating users and controlling my computer so I made the jump to Linux as well. I have to use a windows machine for work and it is a constant reminder of why I left. If Microsoft was like they used to be II would still run my machines on windows.

[@bruceb84]

Hi Dave - glad you showed your Microsoft badge! You brought a very dear appreciation to what you’ve done to contribute towards what we have today: thank you for your service and contributions towards computing, and congrats on continuing by having a KZbin channel!

[@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup]

I find it kind of neat how much older code makes its way into modern versions of Windows. I imagine it's pretty gratifying knowing that so much of your life's work still lives on, even in these newer OS's.

[@ehenningsen]

​@passurlamer yeah, they are well represented as the command prompt is the evolution of MSDOS

[@knick11695]

Excited to see a feature I designed on a Dave video! (Virtual disks and Dev Drives)🥳

[@markf4018]

I think MS need to realise that windows is a vehicle for doing things…we use windows to run applications that we need. Windows isn’t an end in and of itself. Pretty much all of the recent “improvements” actually just get in the way of me doing what I want to do, and how I want to do it.

[@kevinrusch3627]

I love that the new desktop background is "like XP but a hellscape".

[@volvo09]

Haha, I love the addition of the zaps whenever the white flashes show up 😀 These are some cool features. Windows 11 is really moving along.

[@VraccasVII]

While working on a tough problem, receiving a useless answer from an AI that is also punctured by a an emoji would send me over the edge

[@eadweard.]

I don't think tough problems are really the intention.

[@BarnokRetro]

The idea of Copilot is something that would make a PC function much more like the comuters I dreamed about back in the 70s as a young kid. It will be fun to see how the folks at Microsoft evolve it.

[@david3199]

Hi Dave, Dave here. Thanks for task manager, and showing off new builds.

[@petenielsen6683]

I agree with you about it making sense to have the taskbar icons moved to the left on outsized monitors, but Microsoft should not have taken away the ability to have the taskbar itself on the left side. It is among the biggest complaints about Windows 11 within the Insider community and third party registry hacks sometimes brick the taskbar entirely. So I question how much Microsoft actually listens to complaints filed using the Feedback hub

[@mrgcav]

Love your opening: Are you sitting comfortably, then we'll begin" LOL

[@asvarien]

Can we disable copilot?

[@kensmith5694]

No! You *WILL* use copilot and you *WILL* enjoy it. Have a nice day 😐

[@asvarien]

@@kensmith5694 I can believe that being M$'s stance.

[@markward4532]

Thanks Dave, good KZbin video again. I look forward to these videos from you.

[@jmi967]

Things that are still missing: * multiline taskbar * window borders * title bars * menus * ability to add items to the new condensed context menu (which thankfully can be turned off because it breaks compatibility with a lot of workflows) The last 4 in particular make teaching people or helping them over the phone difficult because there's no longer any visual references to work from. I'm going to need to use copilot do do anything at this rate

[@Primarysearchtraining]

Funny how we had most of the things you are listing in W2K, and now we have to beg for them to be returned What a regression.

[@TexasCat99]

The Window borders are back, but thinner. Much better than Win10. But yeah to your list.

[@o0alessandro0o]

I'm sure in another 10 to 15 years we'll get them. After all, it only took them 15 years to add them to windows 95 the first time.

[@StoianAtanasov]

I love your reviews of MS. Please do more! You are much better than what MS normally employs

[@TomsVids4You]

Co-pilot gives me flash-backs to the Office Assistant paperclip. It was so cute and cool when I upgraded, then in about 5 minutes I was over it, and never installed it again. I am still skeptical that AI is going to "change everything". I think AI is closer to an improved search engine that summarizes the first 10 results than a new way of working. That said, I needed a name for my new Open Source project and tried ChatGPT - it was useful in helping my find a name I wouldn't have made on my own, yet I am still writing artisanal, hand-crafted code, and feel like I am a long way away from asking AI to do my job for me.

[@AySz88]

On the "summarize 10 results" part... Are you basing this on the Bard text in Google searches? Because that's literally what that's doing, and the fact that it is taking the snippets too literally & doesn't work well isn't going unnoticed. Check back in a few months.

[@Walker956]

what about the ugly dog from windows xp? lol. It came up when you searched for crap I think. Its been so long. maybe it was all a dream?

[@alanmusicman3385]

I agree - but I have found AI very useful for finding ready made functions - it's like having the biggest best personal library of functions that you don't need to build up or curate yourself. It leaves me with the fun part which is the project specific bits of the code rather than all the mechanistic bits.

[@seanc.5310]

Ahhh I haven't thought about Clippy in a while 😂

[@stapedium]

Mainstreaming GPGPU will be the big triumph of AI.

[@Sirandar99]

You sir are my hero ..... you have obviously acted as a counterbalance to all the marketing types all these years ..... ❣

[@dvongrad]

Cool features, but I'm still ticked at MS for forcing a bottom-docked taskbar upon us. Until they restore that functionality, I guess I'll have to rely on third-party hacks to get a desktop setup like I've had since Win95.

[@Mskvaer]

❤ It is particularily annoying with an ultrawide monitor. I loose 2% vertical space, but only a fraction when the bar is horizontal.

[@dvongrad]

On my triple 27" monitors, I have it at the top with the main taskbar on the centre screen. It comes from a predominant use of MacOS System 6 at a job in the '90s. I got so used to a top left system tray that it's hard to break the habit when I use Windows. I may lose a bit more vertical space, but it's a small price to pay over 30 years.

[@erkinalp]

Or you know you can just use another shell. Not everybody has to use Windows Desktop + Windows Explorer combination.

[@Mskvaer]

Well, that just shows, that any one configuration will suit some people, but there is not a "one size fits all". I just cant understand why they removed the option, ie are more restriktive in newer releases.

[@NathanKull]

Straight to the point, no fluff, useful information, good job.

[@alfrede.newman1838]

Full Disclosure: I was also in Redmond (for 15 yrs) so I've "been in one of the many RED back kitchens", but happily retired now. Thanks for the hands-on review Dave, very helpful. I think (?) you need a Win Pro version to get some of the new stuff? Some of the new Tab stuff you showed looks cool, not that I was desperately waiting for it to come. Suggestion: "Scenarios", maybe it'd be cool if you added some scenario explanation to your hands-on explanations? So that's what CoPilot is trying to be. Yup, Redmond might want to leave that one in the oven for a bit more cooking. It'd be nice not to resurrect and nothing of "MS Bob 2.0" IMHO. Thanks again Dave.

[@alfrede.newman1838]

MS Bob or MS Clippy ... RIP ✌

[@Latvian3Dman]

MS still hasn't discovered two-panel file managers... 😀. Someone should tell them...

[@eadweard.]

Explorer's always been two-panel, hasn't it?

[@LemSportsinterviews]

they barely got tabs. they'll catch up in 5 more years

[@shalpp]

​@@eadweard.2 panel meaning two full file views in one window like a commander

[@zorromci]

When Apple adds to 2 side by side file views to Finder, MS will immediately add it, otherwise you’ll have to rely on one of Norton Commander’s many clones… 😂

[@eadweard.]

@@shalpp Oh. That doesn't seem much better than two windows tiled. But maybe you use the filesystem more than I do.

[@eb37fnrcty19]

I so much appreciate the elecrtify sound effect every time the window manager fucks up in generating a filler that doesn't comply with the dark mode setting. Windows, good for gaming.

[@rdstevens1]

Maybe worth mentioning - if you want to "downgrade" back to stable from the Insider program, you'll probably have to do a clean reinstall from an ISO image.

[@jeffwads]

DISM dude

[@mrgcav]

No just dual boot.

[@wynnbailey1717]

The end task from right click is really useful with some apps that misbehave. Thanks Dave!

[@UmVtCg]

Installed Win 11 on a new laptop. I despise it. I've told MS a 100 times in the feedback hub, user customization is Key.

[@kensmith5694]

They don't care. They don't have to care.

[@inmyfreetyme]

Good information Dave. Thanks 4 sharing. Cheers!👀

[@nhansen197]

The last thing I want is a built-in AI. I can just see the thing turning into a M$ version of Bonsi Buddy second-guessing what I want and constantly trying to redirect me to products I need to purchase.

[@eadweard.]

You're not using Windows, so it won't affect you.

[@eadweard.]

@@imgaminghere Are you flirting with me?

[@linaori]

Encrypting a virtual drive is like a visual trip down to every older windows version

[@iDontProgramInCpp]

Hm, if "End Task" does an orderly shutdown of an app, isn't it _basically_ the same as "Close window"?

[@zynix27]

Yes, End Task for stupid people.

[@grahamclark7483]

Hello Dave, can't thank you enough for the Task ManagerGraham,Regina,SK!

[@juts89]

There are still so many long standing bugs in windows 11, and its performance is so lacking in many areas. The new task manager is a laggy mess, explorer windows constantly regain focus randomly (for what, over a year now maybe?), minimizing full-screen applications, explorer is also laggy when loading the sidebar items. The redesigned taskbar works extremely poorly on wider monitors, and many features that existed prior like not grouping items is taking years to be added. Meanwhile 3rd party replacements are HUGELY ahead in their feature set, performance, and even visual integration with the rest of the OS.

[@GamingHelp]

I have that explorer window random focus steal thing on my 2 in 1 that drives my TV. It's incredibly annoying. (Edited: Though it's win10)

[@rabartels]

I don't like that windows 11 didn't have the copy paste buttons in the menu context. I had the use to old ctrl c and crtl v buttons 😂

[@JB____________]

Dave can you imagine how life would be like if you did theese videos when win 3.11 was out... Love you bro!

[@dennisfahey2379]

Copilot needs a friendly fun avatar - maybe an anthropomorphic paper clip.

[@NickDevXT]

Or a purple gorilla.

[@Starchaser38]

Honestly, it could be really useful, depending on implementation. Like, it could "physically" guide you through steps, walk around the screen, showing something...

[@zonegamma8197]

thanks for the tour ...ungrouped icons is so much better

[@RedHeadGuitar]

Taskbar ungrouping and labels are the "feature" (or let's call it comeback) I'm looking forward to the most. If you're a power user having things like multiple eclipse instances with different workspaces, multiple file explorers, virtual machines etc, the grouping was an absolute distraction, causing me to accidently open the wrong window all the time. I have switched to the old alt-tab/alt-win plus selecting with the mouse sometimes if it starts getting real messy, but that's still not as fast and convenient. AND: With the grouped taskbar icons, even when using quite a lot of programs simultaneously, a large portion of the taskbar is just unused, dead space, so what the eff where they thinking?!

[@lianvitos]

Thanks for the good news: I have been waiting for the "Never group" option in the taskbar for so long.

[@geevee9728]

What happened to the days when an operating system was an operating system? These days it's operating system + telemetry + AI + random garbage pushed out e.g. Candy Crush

[@Ti-JAC]

Thanks for the Demo Dave.👍

[@toquita3d]

Nice to see Microsoft finally learning with Bonzi Boddy on how to make an impressive AI that will never disappoint.

[@eadweard.]

I think it's using Chat GPT, isn't it?

[@tonigon5767]

Your intro cracked me up... Good segment too!

[@ronboe6325]

Tried 11 a couple years ago on my laptop: After a couple months it failed so bad I had to reinstall - Windows 10. Fast forward to this year and I picked up a very small form factor PC that came with 11. It has not crashed but the user interface left a lot to be desired; this new update seems to fix some of those shortcomings. So I picked up an extra SSD to run 10 on it, but put the 11 disk in from time to time to run updates. About every third Windows OS version seems to be decent - I think they try too hard to force the user base to accept too many changes at once where as Mac OS makes smaller easily leveraged updates (ignoring 9 to X... ufdah!). This one might be useful.

[@CHAPI929292]

The problem isn't the amount of change. The problem is that the changes they make are fucking dogshit

[@gregorgeorge8868]

excelent pesentation, from excelent man. thx Dave. BR from Slovenia

[@reversefulfillment9189]

Great stuff! From another 55 year old Dave from Canada that lives in Washington, Concrete to be exact. If you feel like a road trip! North Cascades is pretty in the fall, look me up!

[@zebobm]

I just want an option to remove telemetry and ads. Having ads on a thing you paid for is wild.

[@eadweard.]

Why do you want an option on a product you don't use?

[@zebobm]

@@eadweard. Why do you mean I don't use? I have a job, I have to use it at work. Besides it's not because I don't use it personally that the rest of society is not affected by it, or that I can't criticize it. I don't use Apple either but the rest of the world is affected by their anti consumer practice, and their anti repair stances too.

[@eadweard.]

@@zebobm Well then it's up to your workplace (or the "rest of society") if they're willing to accept the ads/telemetry.

[@zynix27]

@@eadweard. whatever you're smoking, mind passing some? Asking for an, uh, friend.

[@eadweard.]

@@zynix27 Wasps.

[@GerritTjaardAMarinus]

Perfect Video !!! Good Job Dave

[@FBHSswimmer2006]

Love how you snuck in the Falken quote at the beginning.

[@norfolksouthern37]

Since i moved to win 11 only a few months back various explorer operations take longer. for example the right click menu makes several options a 3 click operation rather than a 2, and then the most annoying thing is explorer not refreshing when i rename or copy/move/delete files. its like i have to finish every operation with f5 or sometimes the results don't show. is this just me? at this time i cant point out anything about w11 i truly like. it just is. im not sure how much i would really want ai features like what is shown here.

[@RockTo11]

I just miss the Windows 2000 Pro shell. It was the ultime version of what started with WIndows 95. The look and feel were the most elegant of all Microsoft's operating systems. The subtly warm grays, the mouse cursor shadows, the lower saturation of the tilebar gradients - it was just perfect.

[@sakumisan]

I love how, no matter how hard they try, Windows 11 is destined to be another "skip" version.

[@DavesGarage]

That was 10 for me, really, but I was late to 10. But I really quite like 11.

[@jamieevans5979]

I watched the Copilot Partner bootcamp this morning. Creating Excel tables was one of their first examples. And the things you can then do in context to manipulate those tables is mind blowing. This H2 version is a very early preview, so much so, this could even become an edition/pricing point for Windows.

[@DavesGarage]

I sure hope so! When I get my hands on a working install, I'll showcase it!

[@aleksandrbmelnikov]

Oh, just what i've always wanted. More MS bloatware. The background tasks ain't enough. Run an f'ing A.I. to take the whole shit. Maybe i don't need any clock cycles for my own use. Microsoft, walk into my home and take my whole damn computer. Hell, raid the fridge while you're at it.

[@aliwalil4160]

I think this level of convenience will create a whole new breed of people.

[@arahman56]

Just a note about RAR- the extraction license (unrar) is free, the compression library is not. That said, there shouldn't be any such issues with 7z, as the whole format is FOSS. Also, apparently no password-protection support, can anyone confirm?

[@jas88cam]

It doesn't use the (non-freely-licenced) unrar code, but the free independent implementation from libarchive - no licence restrictions, but a few limitations at the moment. The same library supports zip, tar, 7zip and a wide variety of other formats in one, though, so this support could go a lot further than just zip and rar now it's integrated.

[@arahman56]

@@jas88cam That said, from what I'm reading, it does retain the read-only restriction on rar.

[@jas88cam]

@@arahman56 I'd call it a limitation rather than a restriction though: there is nothing that stops or bans you from compressing, the code to do that simply hasn't been written (yet) - but if someone had the time and understanding of the format, they could implement that any time, unlike the "free but restricted" unrar, where you are actually prohibited from adding that.

[@arahman56]

@@jas88cam The rar compression is very much restricted by license to the proprietary software, only the extraction part is freely distributable. Trying to create a free third-party rar archiver will quickly fall afoul of the license.

[@jas88cam]

@@arahman56 Those restrictions only apply if you use their decompression code, though - write your own and no restrictions apply. That's probably why libarchive makes sure not to use any of the Rarlabs code: it would be easier and get some extra features, but come with those restrictions as the price.

[@therealjustincase]

Just a couple weeks ago I dug up an XP machine I built 23 years ago around a nano-ITX VIA C3 CPU motherboard. Boot time - pretty much instant. Foobar2000 decoding and playing 24/192 FLACs - no sweat. Process list - less than one page in task manager. Network traffic when idle - 0. …

[@Mateus01234]

I find it funny that BitLocker still uses the old Windows 8 prompt from back when it was created to insert the password 😂

[@vincepale]

My Guess re the Link: It's the Bing GPT-4, and doesn't look like they have a model trained hard enough on Desktop Operations, so it still wants to use markdown and create files and provide links, which GPT-4 does right now, but then Microsoft has some filtering stripping the urls / links out. If Redmond does have a powerful trained Windows model in the works, this could be really amazing for those who are comfortable letting Windows send sooo much data to OpenAI/Microsoft about your system. I would love to see transparency and openness about what data and prompting is being provided to the AI but that is Microsoft's IP.

[@Ra-zor]

Copilot will be the first thing I will turn off then! lol I want full manual control of my desktop thanks! and how long will it be before some of these new feature are then removed again in another future update! 🤔 theres just no consistency in Windows any more.

[@DariuszMakowski]

Virtual disk that can be bitlocked is quite... incredible must say.

[@BobStallmanArchUser]

im just getting back on windows after years on linux, i was an OG windows user from the 90s and if im being honest this windows is so sketchy ive had my fair share of major concerns quite a few times and it has been only one month since im back on it. makes me realise why i switched to linux first of all.

[@viperjay1]

I have a feeling they are going to make copilot for windows a subscription fee.

[@kensmith5694]

Like any pusher, the first one is free. They will make it free to use and try to make you depend on it, then start to charge. Soon computer, heated seats in your car and your TV set will all require you to pay for the service.

[@kissfan003]

Love your channel and content Dave!

[@DavesGarage]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@eDoc2020]

I'm honestly most concerned with the auto-saving Notepad. If it auto-saves to the original files it will be _very_ bad. If it saves to a temporary file it's not too bad but I also don't like the idea of actual user data being copied to hidden locations. I sometimes make temporary changes I specifically do _not_ want saved.

[@NichtMalte_]

It does not Auto-save to the original file, it does auto-save a session with all open tabs

[@Walker956]

So like notepad ++`?@@NichtMalte_

[@AamitMorthos]

Honestly really love how tab work in explorer now. Love that we're finally able to drag and dropping files between tabs as well as cutting out and adding tabs together. But I wish when we got the feature to drag and drop files between tabs that we didn't lose the ability to drag and drop files to previous folders in the address bar. That was really useful and I hope we get that back.

[@mat5i6]

Glad to see the combine taskbar buttons option back, but damn, wish there was another option that would let me specify what would combine and what would not; e.g. discord, steam etc. could simply remain collapsed since there won't be another window of it, and then all explorer windows should remain visible.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Also if it's like win10, when an app has multiple windows, like excel, there's no way to rearrange the order of their buttons on the taskbar...

[@YS_Production]

Something like "never combine, only show labels for multi-window apps"?

[@mat5i6]

@@YS_Production Maybe, but it's mostly the cherry-picking part that I'm interested in. A lot of my opened stuff, even if multi-window, I don't mind having combined but there are exceptions as I mentioned previously like explorer or a web browser where I would find it more practical. Not to mention some applications are changing to being multi-window as you use them. Steam changes to multi-window when you open a friend list or messenger when you view an image, etc..

[@YS_Production]

@@mat5i6 I see a usecase for both modes, the one I described and a fully customisable that you crave for. Likely there won't ever be either though.

[@mat5i6]

@@YS_Production Well said and yes, unfortunately, I also don't expect this features to come and doing it myself would probably break more things than it's supposed to fix. :D

[@theovannieuwenhuizen5756]

Nice Dave, thanks for introducing me to the next best thing. But why would I want a Microsoft Account???

[@jordansean18]

AI always needs an undo button. Comcast's chatbot bricked my router because it changed a setting and then denied itself access to undo the change 😅

[@kensmith5694]

I don't have Comcast any more. Do you want to know why?

[@ArntPetterAndersen]

Subbed just now! Tnx for a great video Dave! 😀

[@toquita3d]

I'm a simple man. I see a Dave Plummer video, I sit down with a cup of coffee and watch.

[@DavesGarage]

Thanks, that's high praise and I appreciate it!

[@microsoftsarker]

Thanks man, this video was very helpful. Great video

[@alexsutton85]

Not being picky (I hope!) but I don't think that is the new Explorer shell as in my Dev build 23545, and a few builds prior to that, my Explorer windows show the titlebar with the navigation/search bars directly beneath and then the command button bar. It looks a lot cleaner, fresher and more modern, and the navigation/search boxes are rounded to fit in with Win11 too. Also I don't seem to get flash-banged by the white screens anymore, is this something that has been fixed in some builds? Great video though, would love to see regular videos from you on the Insider builds! 👍🏻

[@Norman_Fleming]

Windows 11. Doesn't apply to me but I will still watch your video.

[@ThePietn1]

Still some annoying things in Windows 11 but it has already improved a lot! An annoying bug that also persists in this update (for now) is that custom right-click menu entries in explorer only show up after you right-click the second time, the first time any custom entries do not show unfortunately

[@johnussss]

Am experiencing a heap of context menu grief in Windows 10, might be a prob across both.

[@thhseeking]

Like Copy & paste in File Explorer options only visible under "more options"?? Grr! I can see myself getting many calls from my Dad complaining about things :P Microsoft still hasn't realised that not everyone will only use Microsoft products :P I ditched Office because on a very, very limited income it's too expensive.

[@johnussss]

Am finding copying text from within a file name,, or files using the context menu are constantly and randomnly disappearing from the clipboard, have investigated why, all options to fix the problem have not, I have carefully used the context menu making sure that the correct option was chosen to copy text from a file name, when attempting to past that text the "past" option was greyed out, this is random and in no way always repeatable, then reverted back to keyboard shortcuts, same outcome with approximately the same random occurrence of there being nothing in the clipboard, I have copied text from a file name and then attempted to past that text into a plain text document with the same random problems, recently installed a clipboard viewer to get some idea of what the F is going on! @@thhseeking

[@VIC-20]

@@thhseeking Use the icons for those functions.

[@Ensue85A]

Looooove the tabbed file browsing.

[@lewislaymons9450]

I'm Just torn between staying on Win 10 or biting the bullet and upgrade to 11, I know I will have to eventually. Windows 11 looks a lot better than it used to. The "not porn" folder put me in the floor, spat my coffee a little🤣😂😎

[@DavesGarage]

Go 11... I never looked back!

[@amcluesent]

I moved 100% over to Windows 11 a few months back. The 22H2 build is tolerable

[@zynix27]

Go 11 when 10 goes EOL. Why'd you go to an inferior Windows version?

[@HazyJ28]

Very cool. So stoked to have Bing GPT on the desktop

[@xephael3485]

More features we didn't ask for and junk we didn't want...

[@eadweard.]

Who do you mean by "we"?

[@xephael3485]

@@eadweard. Everyone who's not you, or your wanker friends. You're probably one of those dolts that posts pointless answers for technical problems on Microsoft forums.

[@zynix27]

@@eadweard. we - (1) used by a speaker to refer to himself or herself and one or more other people considered together.

[@eadweard.]

@@zynix27 Cannot tell what you are trying to say.

[@zynix27]

@@eadweard. wow sir, try Duolingo, eh?

[@bfth121]

The return of Never Combine is the single reason I will probably now finally upgrade to W11. I have refused to upgrade until this is in there.

[@baxtermullins1842]

A long way from an IBM PC and DOS in 1982 when I purchased the one plus FORTRAN compiler for my Ph.D. Work. But, I was able to do my work many times faster than sharing a Big Blue!

[@TerminalWorld]

So they are finally after what a year? are bringing back basic features they shouldn't be removing in the first place. WOW.

[@Mario583a]

Something something had to figure out a clever way to get the old W10 taskbar codebase revamped for W11's taskbar codebase remodel to wok and function in tandem with one another and green across the board.

[@zynix27]

Yeah... no wonder Dave left the joke that Microsoft became.

[@danielsegewitz6956]

That intro was 10 out of 10 perfekt!

[@peterdicicco1046]

the best "enhancement" in the new update is they put back the animation when you scroll between desktops with ctrl-win-leftarrow or ctrl-win-rightarrow. It used to animate in Win10 but with Win11 it just switches without animation. Glad to see it back.

[@AaronStuder]

Thank you Dave! 😊

[@richardwernst]

Fascinating, thanks. While I love tabs in browser (Firefox and others), I don't see an advantage of having them in File explorer. I generally want two different windows (so being able to tear off the tab is good, I guess), so I can easily know just what and where I'm dragging things. Also got used to RIGHT dragging to ensure I was dropping (or copying if preferred) to the folder I really wanted, just in case my finger on the mouse button slipped.... :) LOVE that the option for separate taskbar listings for same program is an option, YAY! I'm not a marketing person but do NOT understand why companies (and it's not just MS), take away features without at least keeping the option to put it back so folks who like that old setup can't stick with it, then, literally years later, put it back. Don't they do any actual research, or just go by complaints that there's no more room on their taskbar (or whatever)? As I'm just now going from W7 to 10, didn't even know they removed the "close window"/now end task (different?) from the taskbar/icon options.

[@a4andrei]

Tabs in file explorer has been the #1 most requested feature in the windows insiders hub. I think it's extremely useful, as it will work similarly to how tabbed browsing works in your browser: I definitely don't want separate browser windows while I'm doing some research on a topic. Similarly, I don't want separate File Explorer windows while configuring a particular project or working with directories which are related in some way. And if I'm copying files between two different tabs, I expect that I can drag and drop directly on the tab, and it will copy the files directly. So, in my opinion, it's a highly useful feature that many people will use.

[@dereksawle]

great review, i might actually now covert from Win10 to Win11

[@JaclynFox]

I sure hope by the time they force us to upgrade they've added the option to take copilot and tuck is safely in the bin where it belongs.

[@Alan-rt3se]

Right now, CoPilot reminds me of Clippy from Windows 97, which I was pretty quick to disable after trying it out. However, if it continues to evolve and improve, it could become more and more like the ship's computer in Star Trek. You talk to it instead of typing in commands. That is probably where we are headed in the long run.

[@larrbaII]

Last windows i ran was XP and then went to Linux mint and for some odd reason this looks like mint. only mint works and you don't need a Microsoft account. Thank's Dave for the preview..