New Wooden Vise Idea and Yet Another Safety Rant

[@IBuildItScrapBin]

Don't know if other woodworkers On KZbin are experiencing the same thing, but over the last year the number of "safety" comments has increased. And I think that the over-emphasis on shop safety from others may be part of the cause. That's not me saying that shop safety isn't important - it is, but unless you are making a video specifically about safety, harping on it in project videos may draw the attention of the type of people who live to regulate what you are allowed to do. Whether or not I have any guns, other than nail guns, is immaterial - I used it only as an example (among thousands) of incremental increase in regulation. A bit here, a bit there, until there's nothing left. Join the ibuildit community on Locals: ibuildit.locals.com Project plans for sale: ibuildit.ca/plans/ Support this channel on Patreon: www.patreon.com/user?u=865843&ty=h

[@eliezernegron333]

Hey check ur busy jimmy were he's video about the bandsaw he rebuilt don't have guards he build guards for that bandsaw that mean that in the old days they didn't care about it . if u care so much to get work done u were not allowed to be in a shop.

[@zaywas]

Knowing your attitude to PC culture and it's problems, why do you support Patreon ?

[@PJPEE]

From plenty of woodworking videos I've seen, you really shouldn't be copping any safety crap compared to some things I've seen out there. Your experience is what makes you so safe and easy to watch.

[@IBuildItScrapBin]

@ZaYwas - If I could convince my supporters on Patreon to switch to Locals, I'd dump Patreon. But along with the vast majority of the population, most of my supporters on Patreon don't see anything wrong with what Patreon has done. They applaud it, in fact.

[@TexasWebbCom]

Move to Texas.😉

[@dougprentice1363]

I really enjoy John's comments on freedom and gov overreach.

[@Magnussen92]

Part of the problem is that people can't see your experience. When I started watching your videos I also thought you did some dangerous things, but that was based on my own experiences and fears. Having watched you for years now I understand that you are in fact being safe because of all your experience, but also because of how your methods give you lots of control, which is a safety on its own.

[@joesees664]

Whole heartedly agree with your comments my father was a cabinet maker back in the 70’s and 80’s and watching John always reminds me of my father’s mindfulness and control over his work an machinery. Here in the uk health and safety has reached unproductive levels

[@kenhoward5611]

@@joesees664 How right you are!!!!

[@Don.Challenger]

But understand that the only way you can watch John work today is via a "youtube" service over the internet, up until the 1980's there was little hope to see a woodworker work unless you were physically through their shop door. And most dangerous equipment (even many manual saws) were specialist equipment access made available generally by apprenticeships. Now-a-days any fool can purchase an entire shop floor of equipment with their credit card unleashed of any supervision or essential training - most never reading the manual or even the quick assembly brochure.

[@KyleMerl]

Once you let them take something, they NEVER STOP TAKING.

[@animationcreations42]

Have you also noticed that pretty much everyone who makes videos on table saw safety has been gifted a SawStop? Wonder how much that has to do with it!

[@keithmiller6583]

Love your channel; I've learned so much from you. Keep in mind that this forum gives any and all idiots a platform and stump from which to pontificate!! As far as safety is concerned, we are all responsible for ourselves; last time I checked you have all your fingers!! Keep up the good work!!

[@lightmechanic2370]

Like so many people, I enjoy your tubes, ideas, creativity and opinions (not to mention double fluffy pancakes). It's good for people just getting into anything new, to also be familiar with the dangers. Sadly education oversteps into restriction. Not unlike the lockdowns. Like driving in the snow, there is no substitute for testing out braking and skidding in an open area to get the hang of how to handle situations. Today you can get a fine for that. John nails it when he says it's all about focus. Pay attention to the job at hand. Safety Tubers will describe kick-back in one breath and proceed to push wood past the saw blade with 2 little sticks. That sends a shiver up my spine.

[@JDCrae]

I hesitated to ask my question on the last video, but hoped you would see it for what is was, as I have done similar cuts on my saw, and felt safe doing so, but the camera angle made it look a different way. I can't imagine having to think that kind of thing through, how a camera angle can change how I would accomplish work in my shop. At the end of the day one of my favorite sayings is not my circus, not my monkeys. You are free to do with your digits whatever you like. I enjoy your content and commentary. Thanks for not taking my question the wrong way, and for continuing to put out great content. Having grown up on the CA border, spending just as much time in ON than NY I feel your pain. Luckily there are plenty who still appreciate our freedoms and don't get caught up in all the disclaimers and worrying about litigation etc.

[@deezynar]

Liberties lost are hard to get back again. It's best to watch for people trying to remove them in the first place, and stop them.

[@70tdc12s]

That last bit of stuff you talked about with the incremental takeaway is spot on and so sad and scary that so many people just cannot comprehend that.

[@kouniao]

I share your concern. It's a good thing, I guess, that you communicate this to your audience. Hopefully some will perceive your point. Cheers!

[@David-hm9ic]

Hi John, I have to admit that I'm a bit of a safety fanatic as well but I'm also a realist. Yes, you get your fingers closer to the saw blade than I do but it's what you're comfortable with. A year ago I wouldn't get within 10" (250mm) of a table saw blade but you have made me realize that at times it's safer to control the wood well even if it means getting within 4"-5" of the blade. That's my limit and I still "try" to stay farther than that from the blade. We all do things that carry risk and we all have to do those things within our personal comfort zones. Like you, I resent those that would tell me how and what I can do and how to make it absurdly safe. I manage my risks and I have bled while woodworking, but never because of a power tool. Planes seem to be my most dangerous tools.

[@Craftswright]

Infringement, however small, however full of good intent it may be, is STILL infringement.

[@toiyabe_effect]

Every time Matthias Wandel makes a video trolling professional electricians, we learn from the comments that it is already illegal to do your own electrical work in some European countries. Can't have dado blades either (I don't know if there is some technical reason behind that or because a dado blade looks like something out of a horror film). Need a permit to operate a chainsaw. Also, when you say it is "almost impossible to get handguns in Canada," you should be more clear: It's not impossible at all. In fact I suspect it is very easy. What is almost impossible is for LAW ABIDING people to get handguns.

[@IBuildItScrapBin]

Exactly.

[@michaeltempsch5282]

As to dado blades in Europe - from what I've heard (so take it for what its worth), supposedly their mass makes the spindown time too long.

[@treywalker8344]

@@michaeltempsch5282 Add a VFD. Then you can program the motor to stop within a 5-10 seconds. The laws are just another excuse to add more control. Follow the money. It was probably insurance companies complaining that accidents were eating in to their profit margins. So they lobbied to put a law in place for the better good for people because we are not smart enough to do things unless the government tells us.

[@frogsareop5623]

Dado blades aren't just banned in the EU, sadly, plenty of countries have. I think this comes from an extreme lack of understanding, information, and experience on the subject, because obviously the mindset is that if there's more than one blade spinning, it must be more dangerous than just one blade! Except that's not how that works, anyone who has operated a table saw knows you're just as likely to get hurt with 1 blade as with 6. The general public doesn't know that, the fat cats in powdered wigs don't know that, they just think 2x blades = 2x danger, and rather than learning about it first and deciding if it's bad or not second, they just ban it because it's perceived as being more dangerous. There is zero technical reason as to why dado blades are more dangerous. Same reason why a knife with a spring in it is "scarier" or "more dangerous," because not enough people know that it's actually not...

[@SW-zu7ve]

@@frogsareop5623 And the real reason is what Michael said. The extra mass makes the spin down time too long. The thinking being with motor off the sound is off and people are to stupid to realize the blade is still rotating so the government must save you from yourself. You can freely find the info on the internet.

[@graemecross9264]

Well said. As with everything else. It’s all about control

[@carlb0666]

Most people don’t understand experience. You getting close to the table saw blade might freak out someone that bought a table saw last year because they saw someone on KZbin using one. Now they think they know it all because they own one and watched 100 videos of people using it. They can’t even comprehend the years of experience it takes to be comfortable with the tool and use it safely.

[@Jimmy4949]

I'm in the U.S., and other than some states, which are very strict, gun ownership is not bad. Back when I was in High School (1965) I would actually take rifles to school to work on in metalshop or woodshop. I'd get on the school bus with it, and put it in my locker at school. Class time I'd take it to shop and work on it. End of the day I'd get back on the bus and head home with it. Nobody thought anything about it, and it wasn't at all unusual, but back then we didn't shoot our classmates or teachers. The problem is society, not guns. Guns are inanimate objects, but politicians have always thought they could somehow magically control human behavior by banning things. So they banned alcohol, drugs, 32oz fountain soft drinks, etc, and we've seen how well that worked out. They think that by banning guns they'll reduce violence, but violence is a problem with society, and has nothing to do with guns. People will still have knives, baseball bats, and hammers to harm others. Banning guns will be as effective as everything else they've banned in an attempt to control human behavior.

[@manohardevgun6543]

Morning I have just seen your video on New Wooden Vise. very interesting, i like see how I can build it. Thank you

[@jamesb43]

I have been obsessed with cams since building my new table saw fence from your plans. Can’t wait to see where this quick release vise goes!

[@edcctf]

Well said as usual!! I see you do a lot of things that I wouldn't do... but I also recognize that you have a ton more experience than I do. You are probably safer doing what you do than I am doing what I do. Have a great Christmas!!

[@sapelesteve]

Good points & I totally agree with you John. Safety should be left to each person to practice as they see fit. No need to call out others as being unsafe. I am in the U.S. and own a few shotguns and hand guns. I do have a permit to carry a weapon in my state (CT). Most people do not realize that a permit is not good once you leave the state that you reside in and travel over state lines to another state. Anyway, be well & stay safe.......... 👍👍😉😉

[@gvanvoor]

In my eyes the problem is that some people that deem some things dangerous would forbid everyone else to do said thing. I recently encountered someone advocating to make bicycle helmets mandatory because he fell while cycling and thinks his helmet saved his life. I half jokingly suggested adding warning labels to the bicycles instead to warn potential buyers that cycling without a helmet may cause death. That person (I should have known) didn’t have any sense of humour and rather angrily replied cars would need warning labels as well. I politely replied he missed my point, being I only endanger my own life when cycling without, and left it at that.

[@ddkm82]

It's all to sad that this is all to true today. Individual accountability is a thing of the past. We all pay for our neighbors shortcomings.

[@whitag01]

Some European countries ban dado blades. It's already started!

[@AkosLukacs42]

Reference? Local sellers and Amazon UK or DE sells bunch of dado stacks. All I could find about is either "I heard somewhere you can't" or forum posts saying that you can buy dado blades. Or the explanation that uncovered blades must stop in less than 10 seconds, and most table saws just don't have strong enough brake to stop a big dado stack... Also, commercial shops will have stricter rules than stuff you can do in your own shop...

[@dennisgroener5987]

Here in the Netherlands (little country next to Germany in Europe) it is forbidden to use dado blades. To prevent the use of dado blades they made the arbor in our table saw shorter. So it is true.

[@EarlLewis]

What exactly is the rationale behind this (alleged) dado blade ban?

[@dennisgroener5987]

It is forbidden, because we are not allowed to use a table saw without a riving knife. The riving knife is useless with a dadostack installed. And we are not allowed to make ‘blind’ saw cuts. The riving knife in our table saws sticks out above the blade, so we can’t make the blind cut.

[@MrConminer]

@@dennisgroener5987 wait here in Germany it is indeed allowed to make blind cuts with the table saw, even professional cabinet shops do this with the riving knife lowered! It's not allowed because the mass of the stack takes to long to stop the blade

[@fiver-hoo]

sadly the people that need to hear this the most won't believe or won't even listen in the first place

[@IBuildItScrapBin]

Hard to break through the programming they've been getting since birth.

[@davisampayo]

That quick release vise still on the shelf? Or I miss the video? I really got interested in that vise, look's " easy to build" , getting yours plan's, of course lol!

[@Keasbeysknight]

i know i have two friends who have set aside the desire to do woodworking because of safety concerns. One even went so far as to buy an old craftsman contractor saw, but never did anything because of fear and now is giving up. its sad, yes there are risks, yes there are things that can reduce those risks, but the biggest of those is knowledge and experience. its a shame how many people are slowly getting away from their own ability to create. id be curious to see the data on table saw sales over the years, see when it peaked

[@lawncarewithtim4896]

Spot on John , this man really shows his extreme intelligence when ever he has a “rant”. Incidentally women here in Australia hate guns and will always vote for any legislation that can out-law guns. HELLO western women you owe your best lifestyle in the world to guns and weapons, and the wars they have won to keep you safe!

[@fritzkraemer1668]

Nice Comments, John ! it´s almost the same all over the world ! there is always a Risk and the best Way to deal with is "dont do it if YOU dont feel save with it!"

[@fairlaien1]

what about the new workbench, is it comming soon?

[@dannywilsher4165]

Totally correct Mr. John!!!

[@benhoshor5769]

You're spot on about the safety "Karens/Carls" putting their noses into everyone else's world when it is none of their business! The nose buds need something to occupy their time! None of their damn business! A simple mention of caution and common sense is all that is necessary. It gets so ridiculous with the safety label requirements because everything ends up costing a fortune. I bought a small window for my shed and there were labels stuck all over the window warning if the screen is removed there is a falling risk. It is just sickening to tolerate nonsense that we all pay premiums for.

[@smallguizmo]

Guns are primarily meant to kill. Having a permit is understandable. A table saw is not meant to kill. It's meant to help you get rid of a dead body, it should not be forbidden. And I meant by making a nice wooden coffin, of course. Come on !

[@grant3226]

lol...

[@PJPEE]

You got me there for a second aha

[@randycosgrove3608]

"It's for your own good" is too often heard spouted by people ( term used loosely, I have other words in mind ) who really don't know what you or I are doing so they can't comprehend that you or I do. Hear it all the time and any time I attempt to reply with what I think is common sense I'm howled down by the uninformed. Keep it up John.

[@Justbatman599]

Love the DOP on your lens! Everything looks great.

[@paulhirst3548]

"Live to take something from someone else"...... sounds like taxes to me. What do you hear these days? "Be safe"...... It is the catch phrase of 2020. It is the mindset of so many people now. There is such a huge aversion to "risk."

[@IBuildItScrapBin]

And yet they watch shows like "Game Of Thrones" and pretend they could be their favourite character: John Snow(Flake).

[@RambozoClown]

"Be dangerous!"

[@CheaddakerT.Snodgrass]

I think we've reached a point where most viewers are not aware that people use to make things and are deeply troubled by their existence. Ever been on Reddit? Sissyville extreme. It's like the bulletin board systems of the 90s.

[@Captainwonderlad]

I love my state of Florida; not only can you buy a handgun, you can carry it around in you trousers. I've been following you for about 7 years now and I've never been concerned about your safety. Your push stick is what all the ladies want!

[@larsonbennett5903]

I like the quick-release concept. Great potential there I think. I was also intrigued by your other iterations.

[@zergon6797]

with experience, comes great knowledge and common sense. just because us builders do something you may not see safe or deem ideal, does not mean the person doing it is stupid. we have been around our tools long enough to know what to do and what not to do. All you DIY'ers and soft handed people need to butt out and let us work how we want. now if you see something incredibly stupid , that's understandable to have concern over. You are doing a fantastic job John, been subscribed for years and the complainers will complain, and the Doers will do!

[@williamthomas5399]

I totally agree with you John. They cant put enough safety devices on a table saw or any other piece of equipment to compensate for stupidity. The same goes for guns. The problem is that the special interest people want to tell us what to do.

[@mckenziekeith7434]

Maybe on April first you can do some kind of humorous over the top safety video.

[@theworkenman1936]

Amen. I couldn’t agree more. The world is going through a great wussification.

[@michaeltablet8577]

True

[@woodswanderer7274]

That's a good rant, John. We need to protect ourselves from these self appointed protectors. While they might have a good point it's still none of their business how we live, work and play!

[@jabrwok]

I can't testify to the legitimacy of the quote, but it sums up much of the change I've seen over my 51 years, and that I've read about over the last century. “Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny.” - Aristotle

[@PasiSavolainen]

Ha, I recall suggesting the cam for another vice of yours, but not in the wedge arrangement (brilliant idea that!). This could still work well if you made it a rotational cam, start from 3:00 and fully locked at 6:00

[@peggyt1243]

I agree John. I despise government controls in Ontario. I am just about ready to move to Texas.

[@MCsCreations]

Yeah... The world is getting crazy. And, unfortunately, I don't see how it could be fixed. But I totally agree with you. Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@krtwood]

I would have had something to say but I wore long sleeves while using the lathe and now I'm dead.

[@IBuildItScrapBin]

Spirit, are you the ghost of KZbin past?

[@krtwood]

@@IBuildItScrapBin Repent and use two push sticks or you will be visited again!

[@cjpenning]

I've heard that in Europe the arbor on their table saws is short so that you can't use a dado stack. And they've been convinced that's a good thing.

[@LostWhits]

The saws are fitted with brakes that stops the blade immediately after you turn the machine off. The additional weight of the dado stack would damage the arbour and the brake system.

[@marclapointe4471]

Nicely said John.

[@ksgjlg]

The best safety feature is your common sense and attention. I used to teach flying and everyone had every electronic device to keep you safe and when one of those failed most people had no idea what to do. Been doing wood working and construction for 40+ years with all my fingers

[@murphymmc]

Well stated John. Guns are like clamps, you can't have too many. ;-)

[@eliezernegron333]

U are right about that cause if u look at old tool and workshops everything is open and no guard look at old compressor no guard it had a sign dare to put ur hand it will get shop off !!!!!!

[@EarlLewis]

You do you John. And keep the great woodworking videos coming.

[@allencurry256]

First of all thank you for sharing your creativity. You have amazing ideas. Now to my main point--you are 110% correct about our latitude in how we live. The latitude (freedom, to use a charged word) is being consumed away little-by-little, so we will end up having to ask permission from some bureaucrat to cut a 2x4 in our garage. I think I'm correct, in Europe, dado stacks are "illegal." Just too dangerous to be in the hands of mere citizens because the splitter and blade guard must be removed when using a dado stack. After all, we must be "nannied" for "our own good." If dado stacks are not illegal (some differences of opinion on the net), I seem to have heard that the EU table saws come with short arbors so the stack cannot be used. More nanny behavior. Now I'm wondering that when the SawStop "flesh detection" patent runs out (2021?) will all table saws be required to have the technology? Feels like we're being nibbled to death by ducks!

[@IBuildItScrapBin]

The best part is that younger people were born into the ones that already exist and think that just the way the world needs to work. They don't have any real concept of what actual freedom is - it's completely foreign to their experience. The next generation is born into even more rules and regulations than the previous one. And on and on it goes.

[@agp7073]

Couldn't agree more John the machine always pushes forward until there's no freedom left. I'm seeing it here in Cali, USA

[@Ashdad99]

Your absolutely right John

[@consequence8836]

You gotta license for that assault table saw?

[@arrowdriver]

I applaud you for all you do.

[@MichaelCoolidge]

Amen brother. The safety patrol will never stop until everyone is safe. That is why I like the mantra “safety third”. Why? Because if safety starts with me, I am far less likely to do stupid stuff. If I believe the world and tools will make me safe, I can be as dangerous as I want. That is exactly the wrong message.

[@allpoints2343]

Ignore the idiots who are without comprehension of personal responsibility, choice, and experience. Your knowledge and willingness to share that here on video are much appreciated and missed when your output drops for whatever reason.

[@SodiumInteresting]

I like the vice. would like to see more on that so I can make one

[@Korgon2013]

Cheers, Jon.

[@wallacesheckells7095]

I like the finish on the speakers. They look great! And the vice idea you have is a great one. Can't wait to see the finished product. And the comments about safety are well aimed but are over the top. We all know that there are inherent risks involved with any power tool. All of us know knuckle heads who like to to take to many chances. But that's not all of us. Maybe a disclaimer stating follow all safety rules for power tools should be followed. Don't do as I do! Or, I'm a Pro, I know what I'm doing! Follow your shop safety rules. I to believe that government is slowly trying to micro manage every aspect of our lives. As if they are smarter then us. If that's even possible....

[@kevw2072]

I cant agree more than with your final statement.

[@gaz740]

I agree totally with your views John. I live in the UK and we've not been allowed to own handguns for about the last 25 - 30 years. Our "Health and Safety" culture over here has gotten really stupid to the point that I can see the "permit to have a workshop" is going to come really soon. The "Nanny" state has taken over and it scares the life out of me.

[@timpedzinski230]

Well said. Down here in the "Land of the Free" we are loosing more freedoms each year because of people who are looking out for my safety. To them I say "I'm an adult. Mind your own business and let me do the same!"

[@joebrkic7060]

Hey John! It all stems back to responsibility! And no body excepts any! It's always somebody else's fault! Like the tool makers or the seller's of the tools, so the "do gooders" restrict us more and more and change the goal posts so we can't blame them. Personal responsibility is not allowed in the new world,! Bring back consequence for actions. Cheers Joe from down under

[@hugobose2254]

John the Vice is a concept that works. Yes you need to tweak it, BUT in the end it works... Local Laws country wise is for the greater good (or sort of)

[@MrConminer]

I think there is also a huge mindset difference. For example here in Germany the people are all about safety so naturally german youtubers who show proper safety tips on how to operate a machine are popular - and they in return learned that while being in their training/education to become a carpenter. Interessting is that these rules are often specified by the so called BG, which has the duty to prevent accidents in professional shops but also has the responsibility to pay medical costs, compensation and so on in case of an accident.

[@PrimalEdge]

well said

[@zweg1321]

I have noticed the same thing of comments of safety when I read comments I wonder if part of this problem is because some of the channels I watch is every so many project videos is a safety video

[@zaywas]

In my opinion it is. I recently started crossing out channels that push safety to the magnitude of propaganda. I recommend doing the same.

[@michaeltablet8577]

Great video! Thanks for having the guts to speak the truth!

[@wadecarson3386]

Prime example: It seems in Canada, we can only buy those supposed "child safe" electrical outlets with the plastic gates which, even for adults, are sometimes impossible to plug anything into.

[@gvanvoor]

Makes more sense than Belgium where you can buy the “unsafe” ones but your installation won’t pass inspection if you use them...

[@jodysteele5135]

I mean this is just patently incorrect. If you go to any big box store that sells outlets you can easily find them without the plastic safety gates for purchase.

[@szcustomwoodworks6401]

I agree %100 government overreach is too much. Eventually I could see the government requiring a permit to have a work shop because you have the equipment and possibly the knowledge to make dangerous stuff.

[@randycosgrove3608]

Too many individuals in government offices who have nothing productive to do. They seek to enhance their careers by making someone else toe a line that they've drawn. After they make up a story that makes it SEEM to make sense to the ignorant. Ignorance is not a perjorative term. It merely means "lacking in information".

[@mechminded2207]

You are entirely right! You cannot legally sell a dadostack in the EU because they were deemed too dangerous.

[@creedsexton296]

Hi John when is the new work bench coming, very interested in that and the tail vice.

[@tjacksonwoodworker3726]

I am a little older than you...well actually a lot older. Since I was born in the 1950s things have really changed. Sad. OBTW, I never put any finish on something like cherry other than poly. Love the way it looks.

[@jessebright466]

I subscribed because of this video! Looking forward to watching more videos!!!

[@gregmislick1117]

This is "The Blame Game" - where in you are not expected to be responsible enough to DETERMINE if something is safe for you. Along with that is that if someone provides a thing, a tool for example, they must design it in such a way as to PREVENT anyone who is using - probably incorrectly - it from getting hurt (see first point). It's the "idiotproofing" concept...which is fine until the release of Idiot 2.0 Now, the drive to make a safe tool is not a bad thing... WHEN it both improves the utility / safety of the tool without making the ability to use it ( yeah, I know "utility" covers this) so cumbersome or complicated as to make it unusable in practicality. A screwdriver with some kind of giant beachball over the pointy bit so that you can't stab yourself with it when you carry it around would be an example of a bad "improvement"....but it's the kind of thing that the logic John mentions leads to Should manufactures be allowed to produce things which are dangerous to the user and be free of all responsibility for same - no - but it's a 2 way street. A man once took a 40 year old airplane, metal tube frame, cloth covering, which had been serviced many many times to the point of having been effectivley rebuilt more than once since leaving the factory. The man then used this airplane to perform a landing which was just wrong in multiple ways - this is the Idiot factor here - not to mention just outright dangerous to anyone looking at it just on the surface ... as expected he crashed.... the plane going down a slope into a ravine, over a stone wall at the bottom and impacting the far side of the steep ravine ... the man was able to walk away to seek help under his own power. ....what's the point here? He sued the company which manufactured the plane on the grounds that the plane was not crash worthy ( aka not safe enough ... for him) and he won the case and the company more or less went out of business as a result. For you folks in the more remote regions of Canada ... the plane in question was a Piper Cub ... so stop flying into the bush and start walking ... you wouldn't want to be hurt now would you?

[@mmmdesignllc]

You are correct.

[@Naiemaa]

Sadly very true... lots of people and even entire entities do nothing but restrict others work and flaw ... And it’s sad that that has become the acceptable approach instead of education and innovation when it comes to dangerous things...

[@patrickbridges735]

Preach brother preach.

[@terrytopliss9506]

Hi John,I think your speakers look great. Regarding the whole table saw thing,you have said that just because you choose to do without a guard and a riving knife you don’t say the everyone should do the same. I personally don’t use a guard for the same reason you don’t but that’s my choice,I do however use my riving knife and again that’s my choice. The world is turning into SNOWFLAKE city but I’m old enough to have been born before political correctness and I stand by my right to make my choices. Keep up the good work John.👍👍👍

[@johnburnitin1027]

I'm pretty sick of the people that don't do anything but worry about what someone else does. At 12 years old, I could be found nearly every afternoon after school, walking down the street with my shotgun and a pistol in my holster, heading to my favorite hunting spot. I carried the pistol to ward off angry badgers and the occasional mountain lion. I was fully competent in the use and maintenance of firearms. Now, I would probably have the police called if I did that. Sickening! All anyone really wants is to do their thing without hurting anyone else and be left the hell alone!

[@LDhusky]

Amen brother

[@SteveC38]

Nice Rant Brother!

[@brianzemke7169]

Amen brother!

[@TheSPoS]

old man yells at cloud

[@keithfoster6000]

shop safety is up to the individual surely. Some of the comments are truly rude 'you've still got all your fingers, surprising' Of course you have John because you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GINKCUF DOING, I'm sorry but some comments boil my blood.

[@irakopilow9223]

You can't fix stupid and you can't legislate safety. In the home workshop arena, the use of power tools is a personal choice. Choosing to use power tools usually happens after researching the available offerings, comparing options and features, and making a determination whether or not it will be an enhancement or a burden. The user must understand how the tools work, what forces are in play, and what the inherent are. Last time I checked, no one forced me to buy a bandsaw or table saw. I made the decision and I assumed the responsibility. As a power tool user for more than 50 years, I still recognize, respect and fear the dangers that come with them. I am okay with not using a push stick on the table saw if I can do so with a 3" wide board. It can be done safely if you know what you're doing and have the proper technique. At the same time I am all about safety, witnessed by the fact that I wear a belt AND suspenders! Keep doing what you do. I love to see how you innovate and find complex, yet simple designs to achieve a desired end product.

[@Yonatan24]

Of course you can legislate safety.

[@JustTex]

well said sir

[@leroy3100]

Totally agree with your safety rant.

[@michaelgrover3443]

100% right on everything

[@Medichell69]

Hear here brother!!!

[@eeyzas2]

Most of the comments are probably from people that don't even use tools themselves. When you a machine every day you truly understand how it behaves and where the risks are. You always look very much in control of what you're doing to me

[@BillHantzopoulos]

What a great rant John! I couldn't agree more with the fact that we are facing added regulation and loss of freedom. And it will continue to get worse. Covid being the latest/obvious example.

[@marc_frank]

cool idea if you know what you are doing, nothing is dangerous but the Dunning-Kruger Effect applies

[@fredmcmurray6308]

I actually think more safety measures (SawStop) have a tendency to make the operator complacent thus more Dangerous

[@PatriotPainter]

I guarantee most of the Safety Sallies in the comments have never used a tool larger than screwdriver. When the hell did it become acceptable to scold a grown man for the way he performs his trade. It's ridiculous and I don't blame you for ranting about it. Our culture has become such soft, sniveling turds. It's disgusting.