NEW WOODYARD PROCESS AND SOME FINE TUNING!

[@cwwhite5137]

Phil, just like Karen said, You are a super hard worker and in my mind you're a rockstar in the wood yard. God Bless you both! Chip

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Chip we just do what needs to get done to keep everything running .

[@susanscherer143]

I couldn’t stop laughing when Karen dove out of the tractor!!Another fun and interesting one!!!!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

lol, just another day in the life! 😂

[@dalemarks4332]

I like the new procedure what you need is a conveyor that doesn't quit on you not like I'm telling you something you don't know keep up the great work

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Yup the conveyor needs replacing but a new trailer Trackter a truck has petty well done us in for this yr an I had the chopped thumb earlier this summer so we didn’t produce nearly enuf wood . Hopefully next summer when the road side stands start producing we can swing a new one but until then I gota keep it running or go back to hand chucking the wood

[@toddpacheco4748]

Karen and Phil there seems like there’s never a dull moment for you guys hopefully things will settle down and start to get better soon 😮😊❤

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we hope so Todd! we've sure had our share of it lately lol

[@iffykidmn8170]

Funny I thought Phil mentioned plenty of dull moments and having to sharpen chain in this video.

[@SKFirewood]

Apart from phils saw that was pretty dull 😂😂

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

LOL

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

LOL

[@johnwinslow4503]

I am thinking an infrared heater under the canopy of Buster, Karen you are the driving force behind Phil, love you both, farmers are hardy people, I can relate.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Heck im thinken a 3 sided building over the splitter an conveyer with a heater would be nice to keep the conveyor going

[@davidlibby7230]

Change means progress,. You have some good ideas. I have tried many different gloves. I am trying Wells Lamonte now. In business waste is waste. If you can not make money with it it is waste. The weather this year has been hard on most of us. Rain in Maine, and record heat in south and Midwest. I believe we are experiencing climate change. You may want to think about building some shelters. Hard work pays off. See you in the future.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

No doubt the weather has changed a lot in the past 40 yrs sure was a lot of rain this yr that made it very hard to get wood to dry but I’m working on a solution for that . I’ve run the wells Lamont gloves before an they worked ok . I figure any gloves that will get me through 10 cord of wood is worthy of keeping around .

[@danwilliams6830]

Phill maybe you could run the exhaust off buster under the conveyor and warm up the belt. Trick it in to thinking it's summer.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Now ya thinken Dan i like that idea .

[@jjduffy9782]

Put bins right next to where u split, homemade or other as you split throw little ones in the bin and sell cut offs for a hundred per bin. Your welcome from your neighbors in NH!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I wish we could find people to pay 100 for a 1/3 cord bin I wouldn’t mind spending $75 on one of them totes if it would pay for its self the first yr . People around here only want to pay 35-40 for one of them totes full of chunk wood a they want it split an delivered for that price . I think it’s mostly because it don’t stack very good and it’s odd shaped . I’m probably going to waste a day and build a box or 2 of some sort just so I can save some to heat my shop with .

[@CherylGagnon-c3o]

What a frustrating couple of days 😖 You definitely need a new Conveyer! I think it's seen it's better days! lol Great set up for splitting though. Anything to make it easier. Stay warm you two!❤💜

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Mom I want a new conveyor for Christmas! lol

[@Mainelywork]

🤘If I was a professional pallet builder such as you two are. I might try turning a couple into cages by adding those metal pockets to the front and back. They’d hold more than the IBC totes too.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

lol, we think alike Jeff! i'm working on an idea to build some sort of bin figuring out the details on the best way to do it

[@Mainelywork]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood awesome. I did a few myself but then my tractor wouldn’t lift them. So back to the drawing board for me

[@jakebredthauer5100]

​@@AllenFamilyFirewood Wire mesh circle on a pallet. Finish the ends of the wire with a stick of wood to make it easily opened and closed. Do not attach the wire to the pallet. That is the basic idea for a loose-fill firewood bin. Welded wire 2 x 4 x 60 inches tall. It takes only one minute to sharpen a chain. Use a cordless angle grinder with a 1/8 inch disc. If you see some dirt on the log, try to have the chain pull the dirt away from the log instead of having the chain pull the dirt into the log.

[@westwindcharters9146]

Everything is more difficult in the winter. But the good news is that the daylight hours will be getting longer in a couple of weeks. An idea for the shorts....... If you are delivering the wood, throw a bunch of shorts in with the regular stuff as a little bonus. It gets rid of them and people like getting more than they pay for even if they are shorts. That's what I do, but I am doing it as more of a hobby. and it takes extra time. Thank you both for sharing.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We do that also people really like getting extra .

[@toddpacheco4748]

Phil and Karen,maybe you guys could have a burning barrel for the cutoffs and use it to keep yourselves warm while in the wood yard 😮😊❤

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I’ve tryed the burn barrel a they work great as long as ya have good dry wood them chunks of red oak are perdy green an I think it would just sit there a smoke . We might try the burn barrel again with some dry pine just so Karen can keep warming her fingers up

[@OhioHillTopsHobbyFarm]

I sure enjoy watching you all and your progress grow. With the unglies have you thought of just throwing them into a tote and sell as discounted wood? Ive been selling slab wood off my mill in a tote for 40$ and cant keep an inventory of them. Totes are well worth the investment, money up front but ease of use and convenience is worth it.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We did consider that but totes are $75 ea and i would have to be able to stack them 4 high to make a cord that is only worth $200 . In that same area i can put one of our half cord pallets full of strait clean hardwood thats worth $200 . We dont have alot of room to store wood so we need to keep what lil area we have full of the kind of wood that makes us the most $

[@iffykidmn8170]

Semi chisel does not seem to dull quite as quick as full chisel, other option might be a couple of 592XPGs running 404 chain I would have said 660s but they are Stihls and do not have heated handles amongst other issues.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I will look into trying one of them chains out . Right now i have 15 more new ones

[@iffykidmn8170]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood At the rate your going that's only a week's supply.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@iffykidmn8170 normally I can get 10 -12 cord outa a chain but this stuff is just nasty

[@outdoorswithandy732]

That seems like an awesome setup. As far as the totes spending that kind of money on totes is absolutely nuts. For me I already had the totes so I started using the blatters for the scraps for my own personal burning. But spending that money for personal use is crazy. So in your predicament I would also take it to the mulch yard. There are always gonna be people, you should fo this or do that because that's how they do things. Keep up the hard work.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thanks Andy appreciate that there are so many different ways of doing things but what works for one doesn't work for all still trying to figure out the most productive way for our setup really appreciate you watching, take care!

[@Mainelywork]

🤘I was driving by your woodyard recently. I should have pulled in and got a conveyor at a REALLLY good price!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

lol, not much longer and it'll probably be free for scrap

[@jamessanders4310]

Grease all zerk fittings and WD-40 everything thing that moves. That's where I'd start. That weather makes me chilled here in SW Fla. Right now it's 74 degrees at 5:15;pm on Friday Dec 8th. God bless you and your family..

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks for watching James enjoy that warm weather! i have a feeling i'll be trying everything to keep that ole conveyor running this winter lol

[@DaveDunehew-e1f]

Pick up a few old pallets & make a tote on a rainy day. Even better , find out where the apple orchards gets totes for their apples. They might be a little cheaper than IBC totes. Someone also mentioned you can get them from where they make bark mulch, the die comes in them. Food for thought.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Great ideas, thanks! I actually have a friend that has a bunch of IBC totes for free, i just need to pick them up in NH

[@DaveDunehew-e1f]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood don’t hesitate, they’ll be gone in a heartbeat. I ❤️ your videos. You & your wife make a great team. Keep the videos coming.😉😉

[@ironmayhew]

We used to throw calcium on the bottom side of the conveyor belt in the winter time to help the head pully grip the belt. You don't need alot it worked great.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I might just try that instead of washer fluid great idea Thanks

[@mowdan77]

Love the measure stick

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Ya im not into all the fancy paint markers lazers an magnatized rigs for mesuring just a 16 in stick seems to work fine .

[@mowdan77]

@AllenFamilyFirewood my dumbass actually bought one of the lazers waste of time

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@mowdan77 I almost bought one also but i talked to a buddy that did an he said dont wast ya time .

[@ClellWise]

I take my hat off to you rough/tough Mainers. Thankfully here in Texas we rarely, very rarely have to deal with single digit temps. With all the exposed skin, how do y'all not get at least a small measure of frostbite? Karen I totally agree with you. When the fingertips and toes reach their point, it's over. I thinking along the lines of most others, just burn the uglies somewhere near the splitter. Think of poor Karen and her cold digits. Phil I don't know if this makes any sense and I'm certainly not suggesting another 500I, but, if you had another saw ready at least maybe you could cut more but then you'd have 2 chains to file. You folks are BOTH very hardworking people and I really enjoy your channel!👍

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thanks! good ideas for sure and i do have another saw but you're right, double the sharpening lol thinking not all the logs will be like that and it will get easier moving forward we're used to dealing with the cold temps just takes a bit every year to get used to it again thanks for watching, we appreciate it!

[@bobbruce3925]

Phil- that 500 I is having to work for it’s supper with the dirty wood. I feel for you having to sharpen chains so often. I like your system cutting logs off the tractor forks, saves your back. Continued success my friend

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks alot Bob! that day of sharpening and cutting was no fun hoping all the logs are not like that pretty sure it was just some of them that got into the dirt during the excavation appreciate you watching!

[@williamkleinsLost40Lodge]

Phil build some wood boxes I used heavy duty pallets and milled boards for sides. I used 2x2s for inside corners. I didn’t make them to deep so I could reach the bottom of the box. They can be stacked. I put the box by the splitter and toss in my cutoffs when full I move it with my tractor and set a empty in place

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thats a great idea William we just don't have the space in the woodyard for any more pallets other than our firewood wish that would work for us appreciate your input and thanks for watching and commenting!

[@toddsoutsideagain]

Great process you have now! I wear the Kinco Pigskin gloves in the winter and have had great luck with them. On the shorts pieces i hear what your saying! We get so much of them and we do save and sell them. That being said it adds up fast and yall are producing 50x more wood than us so i can see your point. Take care Phil and Karen👍🏻👍🏻

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I’ve had good luck with them kinco gloves but they only seem to hold up for about 10 cord . Kinda a never ending thing searching for the best gloves . With all the free wood we can get it’s just not worth messing around with the short stuff . I passed on a load yesterday because we was busy so they just sent it threw the chipper all 12- 20 in strait clean oak probably 2 cord

[@gladyspierce7972]

Get a metal barrel and burn the trash stuff ..you can warm your hands over the fire..love your channel...

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Karen would love to have a fire going out there and we may do that unfortunately the green wood doesn't burn well at all still trying to find a solution! appreciate you watching and commenting Gladys!

[@stevedoersch7994]

You should consider using a semi chisel chain for the dirty wood, it’s what I use on my processor. They don’t cut as fast but tend to run longer in the dirty wood.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Some one else mentioned that as well next time I’m at the saw shop I will pick up one to try thanks

[@DaleFarrish]

Look into a manure tine bucket, should be lots around you guys. Even if you could just borrow one from a local farmer to try out. Using it to load the rounds into the trailer will keep the sawdust and small crap out of the trailer. Then later use your regular bucket to scoop it out of the corral and dump it when you can. Does the dairy farm beside you have a use for sawdust? Even if you could dump it on their manure pile they could spread it on their fields.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Clean sawdust they will take but not the stuff mixed with wood scraps . I found a place local that sells rock buckets an i know that will work ,there $1500 so i gota sell some more wood first or sell some toys .

[@woodtimesinthe207]

This year we started splitting all our short ends into IBC totes. We get $75 per tote for hardwood and $45 for softwood and the customer picks up (tote not included). We sell all we make and it works for us since we need to get rid of them one way or another. Some of the roadside stands near us bag them in the waterproof grain bags so they can sit outside the stand and get $20 per bag. We may also try that next season. We burn some at home and give some to friends as well but went to many years dealing with people wanting them but not showing up so I just started advertising them and was shocked at the sales we got.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

No kidding 75 pr tote an they pick them up . Every time ive tryed selling them ive had bad luck lots of questions an phone time but not many takers . Do you have a good conection on finding ibc totes because they want stupid $ for them around here . I might try building something outa wood that i can stack that will hold them small chunks so i atleast can save enuf to heat my shop for next winter

[@woodtimesinthe207]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood our first 6 crates were given to us which got us hooked lol. The rest I’ve bought here and there for $50-$75 each. I just missed out on some I saw listed for $40 each. They are some handy.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

they sure are would like to get my hands on a few

[@jramsdenbb]

I understand there is a niche market for folks with solo stoves that will buy six to twelve inch pieces of wood. Might be worth looking n to. Also, if you have any fruit wood or hickory shorts, local restaurants or bbq buffs might be interested in buying some. Probably more trouble than it’s worth but just thinking out loud…. Good luck, guys and thanks for sharing the experience!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

You might be on to something with the solo stoves . Most every thing we have is red oak . Keep thinking out loud i do the same thing an im always interested in other folks ideas

[@shotlifffamilyfirewood]

Winter I use the kinco waterproof gloves. Basically insulates rubber gloves. Summer it's the Milwaukee cut resistant gloves 100% recommend for summer

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thanks Brian she's tried a million different gloves and for some reason her fingers get cold no matter what she's different lol! i think she just needs to get used to the cold and no better way than stacking wood in it haha

[@brucebaker4462]

Also get some belt dressing and spray it on your conver belt when you get it running it will help a lot.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Bruce i was gona try some windshield washer fluid to help melt it out first thing in the morning . I just gota make that rig work till next summer then i can shop for a new one . I will try the belt dressing

[@johngraziano659]

Carbide chain for dirty frozen logs, work great

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

They do but getting them sharpened is the problem . None of the saw shops around here are set up to sharpen them and it’s expensive to get the stuff to sharpen them yourself .

[@LarryHurley-u2u]

Phil I worked for years in prep plant for coal with most of our convayers were out in weather we would have fires under them help keep them warmed up some we used diesel fuel in cut off barrels u could use wood probably just saw all the trouble with conveyer thought I would just tell you how we did it in cold just a suggestion love watching your alls channel

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thanks and we appreciate the info! good suggestion. this cold weather really causes issues with old equipment. appreciate you watching!

[@dono9879]

Hello Phil and Karen. Would it benifit you to make an area with larger crushed stone on the ground to drop the logs to prevent them from getting covered in dirt and sand? Sounds like it took to much of your time sharpening blades. Thanks for another good video.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Normally I go an pick up the wood from tree jobs but this new guy showed up with 2 loads in his dump trailer . Now that I have a level wood yard the logs won’t be sliding off my forks like before an landing in the dirt I just have to work threw the dirty stuff I have first

[@johnwoody4905]

Good video and job. Sorry you are having so much trouble. Unless you burn it in your boiler its not worth it . Tell the people how much a new conveyor cost so much I think the size I needed was $20,000 3 years ago . Both of you have a merry Christmas and happy New year take care be safe and well.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks John! Equipment sure is expensive. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family!

[@mowdan77]

Nice logs buddy

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks all free tree service wood . We dont buy any wood every thing is free from tree companys .

[@mowdan77]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood I wish I had that problem

[@Lens-KeepingBusy]

Nice wood guys 😍😍👌😀

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Len that oak burn hot once its dry .

[@jameschandler2776]

Cutting from pallet forks looks a lot easier. That bin you made looks like it is going to work fine. I don't like cutting through ice, it seems to dull the saw sooner. If you look around there is always someone giving the totes away. Chris, In the Woodyard gets about 30 free a month. I had a friend that worked in a food processing place and he used to bring me a trailer load whenever I wanted one. Make some inquiries.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks James, i've looked high and low for those totes up here but they all come with a price...too high for the amount of them i would need lol!

[@jameschandler2776]

Have you thought about making bins of pallets? @@AllenFamilyFirewood

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we have but we just dont have the time on top of making all the pallets we need for our firewood

[@iffykidmn8170]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood someone is finding them and reselling for $80 and up so they are getting them somewhere you just need to figure out where to look, maybe someone from another state that is not competing for the free totes might offer a suggestion as to where to look.😉🤔

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

good idea thanks!

[@Bealle66]

Send the cut offs with the cord of wood that you sell split them up as they come throw them on the load it’s still Wood it burns.. when you use a processor, you get all kinds of big chunks and lots of kindling in your load of wood, so just send them short pieces with the load . Happy holidays. Ho ho

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We have done that in the past the problem is ware to put them short chunks the other 10 months of the yr when we are just splitting an not delivering . They don’t stack very good on the pallets with the regular wood and in that 10 month time we will produce probably 30 cord of them short chunks . We are limited on space so I plan to use the space for wood that I can get 400 a cord for instead of chunk wood that only brings 100 a cord

[@bobfitch607]

Phil I think your set up will work great for you. Maybe a burn barrel or half a tank like Jake has and burn barrels the scrap and keep the stacking machine warm.its a win win 👍🔥🪵

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

seems like its going to Bob with a few tweaks here and there that green wood just doesn't like to burn we're working on it! thanks for always watching and commenting, we appreciate it!

[@susanscherer143]

That red oak is very purdy!

[@susanscherer143]

Ooooh may you remain so positive and so coldddddddd, 🥶 Keep smiling cause tears would freeze!!!!❤

[@susanscherer143]

You are wicked smart!! You are no dummy!!

[@susanscherer143]

Beeeep…😂😂😂😂

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

it's really nice stuff thanks Sue!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

lol

[@NeighborlyHomestead]

Throw some sand under the belt at the head pulley. That's what Freddie Dodge does when a conveyor slips. The need for a rock bucket for scooping the rounds to cut down on the amount of sawdust in the trailer is something that will definitely help.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

have a feeling we'll be trying everything to keep that ole conveyor going thanks for the suggestion definitely see a rock bucket in the near future! thanks for watching!

[@lifeonmttammanyridge2565]

Hey Phil, I was thinking about what you were talking about with the rock bucket idea. I was thinking if you searched around for concrete block forks for your tractor, you can choose the spacing that you want to make a fork style sifter bucket and maybe have Dana weld some webbing on the outside forks to create a bucket like sidewall on each side. if that makes any sense, I tried to explain it the best I could sorry bud. But those concrete block forks there’s like six or eight small, spindle forks. I’m sure you’ve seen them somewhere.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I found a place local that sells a 82 in rock bucket for 1500 bucks so i might give that a try

[@lifeonmttammanyridge2565]

I have found that those rock buckets still pick up a lot of stuff that you don’t want. But that’s when picking up split wood. So with big rounds it may work very well.🤷‍♂️🙂👍

[@blaablaahi]

Build your own IBC crates out of the pallets! You can do it cheaper than buying IBC totes.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

its a great idea we just don't have the room to store it along with the firewood or the time to build them and the firewood is what comes first trying to find the best way with our situation and its a challenge! appreciate your input and watching the channel!

[@BertsCustomCuts]

Build some chunk bins like Dana and move them around with tractor. I prefer IBC totes but I get them for the right price.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I probably will but them pallet bins don’t hold up very well there kinda a 1 use deal a then they fall apart . I might try an build 1 out of good lumber but I’m thinken I’m gona waste a good part of a day just building it when I should be splitting or cutting .

[@clubdoraoutdoorsandfirewood]

Hi Phil and Karen,you guys are getting way colder than we have been. Yesterday , Thursday we got to 48. Today Friday hi 32. We have no snow left on the ground. The most beautiful fall into winter I have ever experienced. Phil can you get some free bladders. Usually everyone gives them away . I cut holes in the bottom and sides so water can dry and air can flow. I use them for my trash wood which I use for home heating shop heating and all our bonfires. I have a rock bucket with a grapple which I use to pickup my large rounds that are 12 inches on up. I cut the rest of my wood on my cutting table. Would you be able to burn most of your scraps in your boiler, and bone fire pit. Or do you have way more than that? Break downs and constantly fixing makes me get somewhat depressed. I have a case skid loader that has been causing problems for a quit a while. I drives me nuts because there is only 1100 hours on it. I try to figure it out myself most of the time but sometimes you can spend days at it. Enough said. I don’t need to be doing this wood stuff. I like to do it though. You guys need to have better days ahead. Take care both of you.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

i haven't heard of any of the bladders being available around here Allen funny how those totes range in price in different areas i could really put some of those to use we produce so much of that short stuff we haven't been able to figure out a good way to handle it because we don't have the room i hear ya on equipment breaking down spend so much time working on stuff its just crazy hopefully we both have better days ahead appreciate you Allen and once things settle down a bit i'll be back to getting out there more to your channel and alot of others! been doing nothing but work sleep eat for too long

[@buckinfirewood]

We used to save the cookies and sell them for 50 a facecord or 50 pickup load but found it more work then worth.. so now we split and send in the loads..

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

In the past I always threw an extra few arm loads into each cord but it’s how do I store the short stuff that’s the problem it don’t stack very good with the regular wood so it needs to be in its own place an they want crazy $ around here for ibc totes 70 -100 buck each . To us it’s just not worth messing with because we have a never ending supply of free tree service wood .

[@MikeBishop-g9r]

It’s tough in cold weather nothing wants to work , time for a new conveyor.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

it's past time for a new conveyor lol thanks for watching!

[@Shawn_Richards]

As far as the waste wood/uglies go... If you don't have room at home to store them for your wood boiler I would say just burn it right there at the woodyard. Especially in the winter time. Gives you some heat to warm up with and saves you a trip to the mulch yard. Keep up the great job guys!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

it would be great to burn all that stuff but the green wood just doesn't burn well at all we used to have a big pile in the middle of the woodyard and have a bonfire every once in a while but the wood had a chance to sit and dry for a while even then it was tough to get it going thanks for watching and commenting Shawn , we appreciate it!

[@joeahopelto8032]

A long time ago I cleared a fence line of volunteer box elder trees that prevented my land renter from using about 10 acres of crop land. He was paying rent on that 10 acres. I cut and burned at least 200 green trees during that summer without any problem. The trunks were from 3 inches to 3 feet in diameter. In fact, once lit the pile allowed me to add wood all week. (One night it rained and coals in the fire pile kept the new wood burning all week. Green wood will burn if it is done right.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we'll have to look into it more what did you use to light it Joe

[@joeahopelto8032]

Paper and barbecue lighter fluid.

[@danwilliams6830]

Fire Ring for keeping stacking machine and conveyor. For your scraps

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Yup shes ben asking for a burn barrel to get warmed up instead of having to get in the truck , that green oak wont burn very good right now but we have lots of pine

[@DaleFarrish]

Frozen logs and dirt can be a problem for chains. Get a shorter bar and a few more chains for it. This will save sharpening time because of fewer cutters. I assume you sharpen on a bench in your shop so less tailgate sharpening which eats more time. It will increase the chain speed which means teeth cut and clear faster which means less dulling. Put a third fork on your forks and cut logs from each end which keeps the logs at a nice cutting height and not have to dump on the other rounds for the last couple of cuts.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I do all my sharpening on my tailgate or on the forks of the tractor . All my other saws have had 18 in bars but this 500 came with a 20 so ya alot more sharpening each time. My forks have a 6 in gap in the middle to take the forks off if i ever wanted to but i go back an forth alot from moving logs to lifting pallets so i think the 3 rd fork would be in the way for pallets .

[@DaleFarrish]

@AllenFamilyFirewood I'll send you a picture of y forks tonight. I offset the middle fork so I can still use it for pallets and logs.

[@FirewoodontheHill]

I’m having the same issue with my conveyor now. Mine is belt driven and when the belt gets wet it starts slipping on the engine pulley. Lucky for me I have an adjustable handle to put more downward pressure on the belt so I don’t have to keep adjust the belt tension.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I think it was more the cold that day it was only 8 out an it was covered in snow an ice . Im thinken once i started adjusting on it it threw it out of ballance an started tracking to one side then i would try an corect it an it took a few days of messing with to get it back working right again . Next conveyor will be chain drive im done with the belts just gota wait till i can save up enuf $ to get one now .

[@FirewoodontheHill]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood oh I see. Chains are durable and will last longer but man they are loud. I have a chain driven one and I like my belt conveyor better. I also had a lot of issues with wood getting stuck inside the chain conveyor but the new chain conveyors don’t have that issue.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@FirewoodontheHill Usually for us the splitter is running when the conveyor is running so noise shouldnt be an isue for us ya i think the chain conveyors have a reverse to kick out anything that gets stuck .

[@On_The_Farm]

I am with Karen. Phil works crazy hard. I am not sure what your goal is for cord production, but have you considered a processor that you could load the logs on directly? Buster would only be needed for big rounds or possibly bag wood.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We only get tree service wood because it’s free an it’s mostly 12 in on up to 36 in stuff . Most of the prossers I’ve seen want wood 16 in or smaller and eventually I want to only sell just bag wood because it pays the most but until then we will keep doing some home heating wood .

[@thefirewooddoctor]

Have you considered a carbide saw chain for the nasty dirty logs?

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I haven’t mostly because there expensive an I don’t have any idea on how to sharpen one

[@thefirewooddoctor]

@AllenFamilyFirewood you need a diamond wheel to sharpen them. Bu the way, rotate the log so the diet is on top and do an underbuck cut to finish said cut. It will effectively spit the dirt away from the cut, greatly increasing time between sharpenings in dirty logs like yours. I've hilighted that technique in my video from yesterday. Have another one coming out this Sunday where ai run a full tank in some dirty logs using the same technique. Managed to rin a full tank of fuel without a resharp. Check it out and try it yourself.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@thefirewooddoctor I usually have 3 to 5 logs on the Trackter forks and this time of yr they have snow on them so it’s hard to see ware the dirt is but yes cutting that way saves on the chain an I was doing just that when I could see the frozen dirt . I will stop over an ck ya video out it’s Ben a while since I’ve Ben by to watch ya .

[@thefirewooddoctor]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood can't believe how fast your channel has exploded! Talk about a crazy ride!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@thefirewooddoctor we got lucky an had a short that came out that got like 46 million views we only had 3000 subscribers when that came out so it was just luck , we didn’t earn them but we are trying to

[@buckinfirewood]

New sub here.. I find that ice gets under the belt causing it to track a bit and jam up on my Black's Creek conveyor.. been wanting to change to chain drive just haven't done it yet

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I’ve had good luck when there there’s ice an snow on the belt to use windshield washer fluid it melts it out fast but this turd of a conveyor I have was made to move potatoes not wood an some how I have to baby it till at least next summer befor we can afford to drop 13 k on a new one

[@DaleFox-h8i]

You need a grapple for front off tractor then you can pick it up on one end that’s the way I do it it works great

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we opted for the rock bucket. the ones with the grapple were alot more money and this one is working great for us. we do need to add a higher back to it so rounds don't roll back and damage the tractor thanks for watching!

[@georgesalamon8128]

Phil, time to buy a conveyor that you won't waste time on fixing it!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

New trailer tractor an truck this yr all with payments an i lost a good part of the summer to a screwed up thumb so its gona have to wait till next summer just goita get it threw till then .

[@daletripp9757]

Maybe Wolf Ridge or some other manufacturers would showcase their conveyor on your channel. Would be a great testimonial if Phil can't break it, it can't be done. lol

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@daletripp9757 I’d be all in for that but I’m guessing they’ve never even heard of our channel lol. My budy Dana says I’m the only guy he knows that can break an anvil an yes I have done that lol he’s the guy that built my splitter an fixes most everything else I break

[@lifeonmttammanyridge2565]

Karen, don’t sweat it. I slipped up the other night when I was making my video in the garage talking with everybody lol.🙂👍🤣

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I did a double take when she let that slip out lol .

[@hayesrutherford9415]

I see another video on a new conveyor. What kind will it be?

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

well, after the new tractor and new truck we're just hoping our old jalopy of a conveyor stays running through the winter! lol like all equipment, if it runs, I'll take it! lol

[@hayesrutherford9415]

fair enough. I spent the afternoon on a bent up POS feed conveyor and it won.@@AllenFamilyFirewood

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

lol, sounds like we live in the same world! good luck with it!

[@gordonoldfield403]

"In the Woodyard" is giving away bladers , cut the tops off , use to cover the offcuts , drill holes in the bottom , put em on a pallet to move em easier !!! I don't know how far U's are from each other ??? Just a free idea !!! 🇦🇺

[@iffykidmn8170]

Maine and Wisconsin not sure how far apart that is but a bit far.

[@gordonoldfield403]

@@iffykidmn8170 "Up the road" in Australia , could be 1000 km's + , only a drive away !!! 😂

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Probably a few days drive . Im sure with time i will come up with something or build something but for now i gota stick to what brings in the $

[@gordonoldfield403]

​@@AllenFamilyFirewood That's a bit too far 😂

[@SKFirewood]

I split and bag my off cuts and sell them, seem to sell well over here, i just have roof slat wooden boxes to throw straight into same with knotty stuff, would a metal stand like heaths from hwm next to the splitter not work that way straight from bucket to splitter cutting trailer out the equation and all the crap would fall through just some thoughts keep up the great work

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I do like heaths table next to the splitter but it only holds I think a face cord or less that’s why I figured I’d try the trailer next to the splitter because it will hold about 6 face cord . The sawdust drops through his table but ya still gota clean that up as well just like the trailer . I’m looking at buying a rock bucket for the tractor so I won’t get as much sawdust when I pick up the rounds . Just gota keep trying different things till we find what works the best and makes us the most productive we can be

[@WilleysFirewood]

I don’t mess with the small ends in my operation either. I have people that come get them for free. I’m with you…… just get rid of them.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thats one of the differences between business or hobby . Just aint time in the day to be messing around looking for pennies .

[@leonardberryhill4166]

Phil It would have been nice if had dump wood on concrete in front of the shop. THANKS Leonard

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we're going to have concrete poured inside the corral in the spring thanks Leonard!

[@leonardberryhill4166]

Phil You miss understood what I mint . Dump the log on concrete to keep out of the sand . Thanks@@AllenFamilyFirewood

[@rossnolan2883]

😊😊😊😊❤

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks for watching Ross!

[@fricknjeep]

good show . whats all that white stuff ? john

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks John! why, you interested in some white stuff? we'd be happy to send it your way lol

[@fricknjeep]

hi am ok with that but 2 feet at a time , john@@AllenFamilyFirewood

[@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119]

I have got ibc tots for 25 that’s not bad price. Bad part my tractor won’t lift them. I burn all my cut off but just for myself I don’t sell wood. Maybe a bin like Chris uses up next to the shop so can just got get it though it in wood stove. I would think you get hit on someone that drop off like pickup bed trailer or something for your cut offs. Gloves if it really cold wanna keep hands warm leather mittens with wool linners. There harder to work in but your hand will stay warm. Definitely ask about some simi chisel saw chain next time buy some they do better with dirty wood. Keep up the good work at stay warm.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks Dan so many different things work for different situations we're trying to figure out the best way to get rid of those small pieces Karen is still working on trying different gloves lol thanks for the input, we appreciate it!

[@danshouseofsmokeandoutdoor7119]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood firewood bags might be good option as well. There lot less then tots. There lots that use some on utube. Shaver equipment I think who sell them.

[@Mainelywork]

🤘Someone owes a dollar in the swear jar!!😅

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Lol she sure does Jeff . We try extra hard when the camera is on to not let any slip out but sometimes one gets by .

[@DaveJohnsonad5nm]

Since it's an electric conveyor maybe try mounting a small electric heater up there. We get pretty cold here as well but it's a dry cold so not much trouble like that.

[@DaveJohnsonad5nm]

I burn my oddball wood in the wood boiler. I'm not in the firewood market so I can spend a few minutes extra.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

pretty sure we'll be trying everything suggested so far to keep that conveyor going lol thanks for watching Dave!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

its perfect for the wood boiler wish we had the space to store it to let it dry

[@tommyrichmond1293]

Can you change pulley to make it run a little faster for the colder weather

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Maybe I have no idea I’m great at breaking things but not so good at fixing things lol.

[@Holzplatz]

8:17 That’s the reason I built a bucking table. I do have a Compact with pallet forks and 3 meter wood (it’s approx 9 feet). And I cannot really saw with this effective because I am dancing from left to right and from right o left around the logs and than I can’t saw in the middle and always working around the iron if the forks. I documented the table in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqXQlaaXprKanJo The table ist mobile and I can solve the transport problem of the logs with moving the whole logs to where I need them.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I will try an get over an ck it out . Once I get a few rounds on the ground it’s not to bad it holds the logs up I just hate cutting when there on the ground

[@Holzplatz]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood what I don’t like about that is that you have to pickup the rounds off the ground again. You lift it up with the machine to cut it and have it in the grind again. I am wirking on a solution to keep it on working hight after cutting and not have it back in the ground where I have to pick it up. I am thinking of a long table (eventually with a sight tilt to have the rounds rolling towards the splitter) behind the cutter. So load it on the live deck, roll them in the sawing table, saw ist, grab the rounds - turn around and place them on the storage table. On the short end of the table is the splitter. Grab the rounds, split them and put the splits in the front end loader bucket (or a conveyor) That’s my vision where I want o be in the end. Keep it modular so I can move it around if necessary

[@mikehughes2026]

“ The more things change, the more they stay the same.” A lot of first on today’s video, liked the editing with the music- had a 80’s Magnum P.I. Vibe, Karen’s salty language 😂Too bad about the “ Spud dud” giving you fits. I would cobble together a fire pit- concrete blocks, maybe half the size of the corral blocks, kiss and make up with Dana, he could make two steel grates for the “lid” get a ripping fire going first thing every morn with seasoned wood and add to it all day- chunks, scoops of sawdust, Dew cans-everything. The blocks would radiate heat after a while and when you leave at night the grates would contain embers, ready to relight next morning- kill two birds with one stone. Very surprised Karen’s Great Wall gloves didn’t live up to expectations- the quality is usually top-notch😂🇺🇸🇺🇸Enjoy your weekend- p.s.- word on the street is Dana’s planning a attack👀

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

so true Mike lol! glad you liked the Magnum PI music haha Karens tongue slips every now and then not sure where she got that from! that piece of crap conveyor is a spud dud for sure its gone the distance with us but think its life span is coming to an end the fire pit would be great and we've thought of that but that green wood just doesn't burn easy and we produce so much of that short stuff we'd be lighting the town on fire every night if we could get it burning! p.s we've heard the word on the street we actually got attacked last night we'll give our version after Dana has his moment lol

[@dropshot1967]

Pile the short pieces without splitting next to your cutting coral and when the pile is big enough advertise it for 50 $ or however much you can charge, you could even have them come and pick it up. No extra handling to dispose of them and you get at least something in return. Or do what dude ranch DIY do with their scraps. Put some burnbarrels around the yard and you get a place to warm yourselves up in the winter cold.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we did put that first pile over to the side of the corral but its gonna be a big pile really quick hard to burn green wood hoping we can find someone to come pick it up thanks for watching!

[@obiorah1]

if you had the money right now which Conveyor would you Consider Buying Wolfe Ridge or EastonMade,

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Id say its a toss up they both make great stuff . I like the wolf ridge 24 ft design for the summer because it has a belt but the easton made has a chain drive system an i think the chain drive is better in the ice an snow . So 1 of ea would be nice lol.

[@SHardin-pg6ew]

You could use smaller pieces of wood for kindling to add a little bit more value to your customers

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We also do kindling and include a few bundles with every cord we deliver

[@OpenAirAdventure]

Yep, $80 /$100 around here now. Two years ago they were giving them away. Personal I wouldn't buy a rock bucket, I'd buy a root grapple and once you scoop up your rounds, close the grapple and shake out the dirt. Move logs around too with a root grapple instead of forks.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

just crazy what they want for those totes up here when they're free in a lot of places i've gone back and forth about the rock bucket or the grapple and thinking the rock bucket is gonna work the best for our situation i could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time! lol thanks Kenny

[@robertseter4329]

Unfortunate couple of days for you guys. 😡 Hopefully, things will start working correctly soon. I use IBC totes for my shorts and cut-offs, and that's all I've burned so far this year besides pine. Pine doesn't sell here even as campfire wood. 🤷‍♂️ I'm sure Phil, you could come up with a design for making some bins when you build pallets that you could use for shorts and cut-offs in the future. I did that a couple years ago when I didn't have any IBC totes. I used pallets on 3 sides and some slats on the front so I could still reach the wood and hold sides in. If you built some, you could set one near the splitter so you could just throw them in after splitting them. I usually save my cutoffs and shorts until i think i may have enough to split and fill a totes, then split them and throw them in. I know it may not be worth your time, and that's understandable since you and Karen make a living saleing firewood. I've burned almost 3 totes worth so far this year, only have 3 more, but saved me from burning wood I can sale. I'm glad you all still have a positive attitude and laugh about even the problems. 😁

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

We are really considering spending the money on buying some totes just because they can stack on top of each other and i burn 10 cord at home and another 5 or 6 at the shop . Maybe i can come up with something to build that would work so i could stack them on top of each other .

[@robertseter4329]

@AllenFamilyFirewood IBC totes are expensive in your area. I can normally get the 275 gallon ones for $20 in my area. Some people do list them for $100. No thanks! 🤣 I don't care about the bladders but do use some from time to time for cutoffs. I cut the top of the bladder off and put the bottom on a wooden pallet, and fill the bottom with cutoffs when I'm out of totes. Todd from Todd's Outside Again showed putting blocks under the bladder inside the cage and cutting top off. I had not thought about doing it that way, but it was an excellent idea. I've always ended up cutting crooked, lol.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

yeah thats really a good idea

[@LonnieJohnson-ny7xu]

I work at chip factory our potato unload belt is out side when that starts happening it usually the lagging is wore out on the drive drum it sound it might need some lubricant

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I did put the wd40 to it a few times today an it quited it down alot

[@geezerindawoods]

Solve one issue and another pops up, it never ends Well dun!

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Lately it’s Ben solve one an 2 or 3 new ones pop up but we are working threw it

[@mowdan77]

Maybe a longer bar ?

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Longer bar takes more time to sharpen each time i was thinken about going back to a 18 bar instead of this 20 that came on the saw just to save time sharpening .

[@mowdan77]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood I gotcha buddy

[@hankjordan2602]

How’s the new truck doing.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Love the new truck it’s got way more than enuf power an tows the trailers a lot better than the old one

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

I sell in bulk, and even the shots pieces I stack away and sell it to guys with short wood stoves. I get the same price regardless. Even the ugly twisted stuff gets scattered and delivered so everyone gets a little bit of everything

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I wish i had a good market for the short stuff . I need to come up with some sort of storage system for them because i burn 10 cord at my house an another 5 or 6 at the shop . I would have bought 100 totes but the boss says ive spent way way to much this yr an need to make some money first

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood : toss some pallets and make it bin toss them in there and see what happens.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

@@DanielAtkinsFirewood Ive seen smore firewood build them bins outa pallets an they hold up for about 1 use then fall apart leaving nails an screws all over the ground

[@Shawn_Richards]

Hey Phil, during the cold weather season put a torpedo heater aimed towards the bottom of the conveyor then get yourself a couple cans of belt dressing and spray the head pulley (drum) while it's moving. Just make sure the belt and drums are clean before you spray them. Once the belt warms up a little bit you'll be good for the rest of the day. This will get you through until you get that new conveyor! 😉

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

good suggestion Shawn i'm gonna have to do something to get that thing to last through the winter a lot of effort goes into keeping old equipment working thats for sure appreciate you watching!

[@SteveAustin-jp3ev]

Nice to have a tractor. Im jealous. I DO NOT have a truck. I DO NOT have a trailer. I DO NOT have a tractor. I have a old van. I have 3 Stihl chainsaws. MS261 , MS250 and MS171. Some gloves. A Fiskars ax , A Fiskars maul. Thats it. Im Living with asthma and a bad back. Age 64. I'll never going to achieve a wood business . At least I'm alive.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Gotta look at the positives Steve. The wood business will definitely give you a bad back, that's for sure. Thanks for watching!

[@rodneydufrain3623]

Put another piece of convayer belt on the drum. That will solve your slipping. Probley be worth converting it over to hydrolics n run it off of the splitter.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thats a good idea we probably will be trying alot of everyones suggestions to keep that ole thing running through the winter don't want to spend alot of money converting it because its truly on its last legs lol thanks for watching and commenting Rodney!

[@shotlifffamilyfirewood]

My conveyor hasn't been the greatest thing ever either. There must be a reason they aren't meant for firewood but I'm not giving up on mine yet

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

gotta keep it running its gonna be a challenge but what isn't, right? lol

[@paulhoelscher6207]

You may need to invest in a skeleton bucket for your tractor, that would do away with a lot of the sawdust and debris when putting the logs in the trailer. definitely a new conveyor should be a serious consideration, unfortunately you have to invest a lot of money to produce firewood.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

sure does take a lot of money Paul i'm looking for a rock bucket, pretty sure that will be the answer a new conveyor would be great too it's on my Christmas list lol Appreciate you watching!

[@rodneydufrain3623]

Sounds like its time for a processor. To speed things up n make it easier on you guys.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

that would be great with the free tree service wood we get only a percentage of that would go through a processor though so we'd still have to process the rest our woodyard isn't very big and we've got every inch accounted for at this point lol thanks for watching Rodney, appreciate it!

[@DewayneSmith-e4t]

Grease in

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Thanks for watching

[@kentcorbett5436]

Maybe if you built 14 by six by four foot being out of Palette's then find somebody locally with a boiler. I think they would be more than happy to go and take it off your hands once a week. Maybe even give you a few bucks for and you still only have to handle with the ones. Also I knoh I'm not sure where you guys are located. I think you're in New York. But Burt and crystal in the Woodyard. They travel for some to get third and they can get like 30 at a time for free. So maybe they might do a traveling trip and take you one load for reasonable price. They're getting them pronounced. Anyways, you're a cheap plug in the way. And yeah cottonwood with ice on it dolls those change as quick as hidden rocks

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

its been a challenge Kent that's for sure we're in Maine would love to have someone come haul that stuff away but we don't have room to store it in the woodyard we have a boiler and could sure use it but just don't have the space that's been an issue and we're trying to come up with the best answer thanks for your input and really appreciate you watching!

[@jameschandler2776]

It was sunny and 57 in Ohio today. Absolutely beautiful. It is supposed to start raining in the early morning hours and rain through the weekend. You had to work harder at getting to cut and split wood than actually cutting and splitting. Why don't you use all that short stuff in your boiler.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

looks like your weather is headed this way for late weekend and monday. heavy rain and wind forecasted here. we'd love to use it in our boiler but don't have the room to store it to let it dry...hence the IBC totes lol

[@jameschandler2776]

Wish I could get some totes to you. I keep 6 for emergency water storage. I used to be able to get all I wanted for hauling them away. Havn't checked recently because I didn't need them.@@AllenFamilyFirewood

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thanks James

[@bobwilkinson4377]

im sure you have an outside burner use the offcuts in there cos i saw you burning good split wood before all other firewood men use the stuff they wont sell

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

we will burn what we can, but we have a business and a lot of times it just isn't worth the time involved to process it

[@brucebaker4462]

If you have a old hand hoe the kind you use in your garden run it over the log where the rocks and dirt are it will take alot if not all off the frozen crap off.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Im sure it would take some of it off but it only takes a lil each time an ya sharping again . Usually with 4 or 5 logs on the forks you cant see ware the dirt is add a lil snow cover on the logs an well theres just no good answer other than cut an sharpen

[@leonardryan8723]

Everything work out with time to put up firewood 🪵. 😊

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

thats the goal Leonard thanks for watching and welcome back!!

[@mowdan77]

Did u grow up on a farm ?

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Sort of my family had 4 acres of greenhouses and a garden ctr and we always had a barn full of race horses an other critters . Used to heat the greenhouses with 150 cord of 4 ft wood ea winter .

[@mowdan77]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood holy moly

[@budlegallee4993]

Fill a 275 gallon ibc cage and sell for 50 to 75 not including the tote.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

People around here wont pay any more than $100 for a full cord of that stuff an they want it split an delivered . Takes 4 totes to make a cord an around here the totes are $ 75 ea if ya can find them so it would take 3 yrs to break even on just the cost of the totes .

[@Chucky-b7v]

Boy oh boy, do you two have your work cut out for you, lol…. How many times did you sharpen those chains ⛓, unreal…

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

A lot I figure I used up just over 1 new chain to cut 3 or 4 cord when I should be able to cut at least 12 cord with a new chain . not very productive but I gota get threw all that wood an I’m guessing the pile of pine won’t be as bad because most of the bark has already fallen off that .

[@Chucky-b7v]

@@AllenFamilyFirewood Oh my goodness ! Best of luck with all that, which is still in front of you both. You both are very hard working people.

[@herbgerow9474]

burnit in your boiler

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Either way I have to store it some how and the odd sizes don’t stack very well . I’d get ibc totes but they get 75-100 apiece for them around here . All of our wood is free and if we wanted I could go about every day an get a load so it’s really not worth messing with . The tree company’s just chip whole trees around here there chippers will take a 24 in tree an eat it in about a min so I shoot for getting the nice stuff an not worry about a few short chunks .

[@hankjordan2602]

Boiler wood for your self or customer.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Our wood boiler only takes dry stuff an ibc totes cost around 75-100 ea we don’t find free ones around here like other places . If we could find free or decent priced ones I’d be all over it . I might waste a day a try a build 1 or 2 boxes just so I can have them to burn in my shop but we probably produce 15- 20 cord of that short stuff every yr . We also get all the free wood we want from tree company’s so there’s really no point in messing around with the small odd an twisted stuff .

[@stevehurt1189]

I'm laughing with you not at you. My hands are cramping just watching you file that much

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

I know Steve lol it only takes a few minutes of filing an my hands go numb but I just keep going any way . I might swap back to a 18 in bar just to save on how long it takes to sharpen .

[@iffykidmn8170]

make whomever thinks the rounds are worth money an offer on the shorts, they come by once a day pay you $20 and they cleanup the shorts.

[@AllenFamilyFirewood]

Heck id give them all they wanted if they left a trailer here but i dont think anyone wants them that bad .