New World: Forged in Aeternum - Cooking Consolidation

In episode 76 of Forged in Aeternum, Patrick Smedley (Lead Seasons Designer), Tony Morton (Senior Systems Designer), and Joel Clift (Game Designer), discuss the changes to the Cooking Trade Skill.
0:48 History of the Cooking Trade Skill
2:25 Loot Reduction and Cooking Simplification
4:10 Focus Strength Food in Inventory
6:28 Fishing Trade Skill
7:41 Roll Rates
9:23 Difficulty Increase
10:22 What’s Next?
COMMUNITY QUESTION: Which trade skill are you most excited to see simplified? What ideas do you have for us?
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[@playnewworld]

COMMUNITY QUESTION: Which trade skill are you most excited to see simplified? What ideas do you have for us?

[@pothofoxolo-treepaintneint3204]

riding ofc.

[@siskomrb8913]

Perma ban fishing bots

[@YUNGTRENDSETTAGAMING]

A NEW OPR MAP

[@user-qj1uk7qb8k]

we will be waiting for a video with news about "why do we need furniture"

[@orwaa9435]

you mean besides furnishing. Either weapon smithing or armoring.

[@davedipy04]

Having a nice UI redesign would be really awesome too. Instead of having collapsible tabs that are tedious to get through (Namely The KILN), what about some tabs that you can just click on to get to a certain category. Like if I want to craft a specific armor type, I can click say light armor, then if its a golden scarab or prismatic scarab craft, then what attribute. Something that can be accessed with just a couple clicks, rather than having to either scroll forever or clicking every single collapsible tab till u get to where u want.

[@iamnuuhb6166]

hey ags! this please!

[@notJEllis]

Honestly, cooking, furnishing, fishing, and music are my favorite trade skills in the game

[@randy2.0kitt]

Fruit cake

To simplify a lot crafting, what we need is to take the items from any storage, instead of limited to the city you are or your bag... I spend more hours finding the materials in each of the storages to bring them to my bags, than crafting itself... and then, you get to the crafting station, and you missed one, back to the storage to find it again... it's really cumbersome... we need that to make QoL in crafting a really good thing.

[@Ravynheart]

what you really want to say here is that we just need a global bank, the drop down list of towns is atrocious

[@mikeblizniuk6582]

+ affecting alts or some mail system so you can send gold/items via your characters

@@Ravynheartwell that's a minor thing for me, and it helps a little classifying all your stuff .. imagine a global bank with thousands of items would be complicated to manage... so I don't complain about that... but make all the materials available for crafting no matter which storage they are on is a MUST for me

@@mikeblizniuk6582 well.. having in account you can change specs and specialization by just changing weapons, armor and attributes (specially now at 50g) is not a priority I would say... I don't see the need to have alts in this game

[@mikeblizniuk6582]

@ even if, such mail system should be added in game😊 i have 2 alts and it is s little problem. Such solution shouldnt be difficult to implement 👍

[@lodzplaying]

Also think about adding to game utimate gathering, crafting and refinding gear. For example like Ultimate Crafting Trophy. If I collected all gear, let me have only 3 gear sets for it out of 9. But pls, don't punish people they should spend a lot of gold for it.

[@TheAstorre]

thats why I refuse to spent so much coins on all those 3543 types equip for each profession, because they will unite it into 3 categories like you wrote in near future

[@lodzplaying]

​@@TheAstorre No no, my idea is to craft ultimate gear if you have all pieces of it, like with trophies. I think it will be huge improve life feature. But at the same time, the importance of old items will not disappear, but probably will even increase. This will also help free up gear slots for different builds.

[@mikeblizniuk6582]

@@lodzplaying make every piece of such gear with all bonuses that exist right now. For example make all lumberjack items with amulet and convert it into like one pants/something else😊

[@lodzplaying]

@@mikeblizniuk6582 Yes, that’s also a good idea, but personally I would prefer improving items I’ve already received than farming/buying new ones. The value of old items is not lost.

[@Ravynheart]

@@lodzplaying What do you mean, with this the importance of old items will most certainly disappear, any time you add anything to a game that is better than the previous alternative the old version becomes outdated, not desired and less valuable.

[@gamersquickie]

Swimming. What if you had some type of Fishing event with a giant fish BOSS at the end and once you had completed this trial it would give you the ability to swim. Or maybe have the ability to build some type of raft to get around.

[@cumbearsum]

I was really excited about legendary fish being used in the top food (time to start fishing again!), especially with controller support coming; however, making it almost impossible to catch a legendary without a hotspot kills that idea for me. Having to go check hotspots, compete with and negatively impact the time of others fishing takes all the chill and enjoyment out of the experience for me.

[@turbitoescort7460]

Yes,i have full set,but last 3 month i never fishing more,IS time to fish again

[@LunnainnsCoffeeBreak]

I *dont* want furnishing "simplified" - I want as many furnishures as possible. However, I'd also like the material to craft furnishes to not be as much. Spending 10 or 100 of extremely expensive planks just to craft something isnt really ok, especially not for something like a small jewellery box. Like, I understand you guys want those to be rare and expensive, but there's "expensive jewellery box" and then there's "ludicrously expensive for the sake of being expensive". I also dont want to be forced into fishing or paying for overpriced fishes just to craft the food I need. That's also a change I think is for the worse, it'll just make the fishing-bot problem more pronounced, and it'll screw over the players who actually *want* to fish - which I dont.

[@anthonystark123]

Well thanks guys for making the game even more grinding!! Fuck this

[@pedrorodrigues7409]

The idea of ​​reducing items is very interesting as it would help us a lot with managing our backpack, saving time by not having to organize it, it would be really cool to have some food that could provide, for example, physical/elemental armor instead of points of attribute.

[@deckardshow3981]

There are 11,000 online in the game, we urgently need changes in cooking.

[@TheCooderix]

different teams working on different things

[@itsc0ba7t]

A QOL thing that crafters need is more gearset slots. I dont even have enough slots for builds because I have the majority used for my crafting gear. Will this be addressed?

[@NoobahSteve]

it is strange to hear legendary fish were so common when I've only caught 1 in my entire time (1800hrs) playing, and that's with using lucky rabbits feet, max fishing trophy, max loot luck trophies and full fishing gear all while only fishing at max tier hot spots, but all in all i seem to have bad luck in the game in general as i almost never get any good drops from any system in the game.

[@slowbie54]

Is there anything to stop us from making a bunch of t2/3 gathering food now since it will be upgrade to t5 in season 5?

[@thatbr1tguy906]

time to go and buy out all the Legendary Fish and wait for the patch 🤣

[@Khaz_77]

Ohhh, actually that time was like a week and a half ago 😂

[@kensonplays]

And craft cheaper tier 2/3 foods then have them auto convert haha.

[@alessiozega582]

You also recommend adding a food or potion that increases exp to level up weapons.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

Can we add more dyes like an off white or a very dark grey?

[@waldovega]

I agree! i think that if you cut down all the below level 60 recipes it would be a lot cleaner. I hated getting all my skills to 200 and then it was changed to 250. most people don't ever use lower tier foods once they get to 65 anyway. i hope there will be some sort of compensation for those of us who actually like worked hard to get to 250 tradeskills once all these mats get deprecated. Fishing is definitely the best in New world.

[@michatomasik6068]

At the trading desk you can select blueprints that you do not have.

[@CanWeBike]

For armoring, it might work well if you simplify it to one of each light, medium and heavy set. You could add an option on the craft for the visual appearance. For example, I go to the armoring station, select Tier 5 light boots, choose my craft mod, materials and style (and add azoth) before clicking CRAFT.

[@mikeblizniuk6582]

Ultimate crafting/gathering sets with all the bonuses we had right now from all the items in game. Harvesting + fishing + woodworking + mining + skinning. Same goes to all crafting pieces of armor. You can make separate recipe for armor pieces and gathering/crafting amulet too. 300k tokens and 200-500k gold for each one of them (amulet cheaper). One big investment for whole game. Extremely needed right now! Thank you 😊

[@Odoqx]

and how does one make 200K-500K in the game without being in a company that controls towns?

[@mikeblizniuk6582]

@@Odoqx not that hard. You farm raw materials and sell them/ do normal dungeon runs/ PVP. No one says you ll get such gold in 2-3 weeks. Even if you farm for few months it is still worth. I made all ultimate trophies with all trophy materials in few months so it is possible😊 one big investment 😊

[@slowbie54]

They should make separate stations for dyes and furnishing to help with the crafting menus. Same with leather working and sewing for medium and light armor.

[@slowbie54]

Could do the same with armor forge for heavy armor and weapon forge for weapons. Also a separate station for jewel crafting. Could also have an enchanting table for arcana items like staffs and an cauldron for potions.

[@moseidon946]

I wish the community would be more vocal about pvp content being added, this game needs a big pvp content pump!

[@sneezweasel]

I love that youre rethinking this instead of taking it for granted

[@sherpagoolsbee8390]

You all are great! Thanks for the hard work you put into the game!!

[@ReimundOficial]

Decrease the variety of items, like weapons and armors, and add an enchanting trade skill, cant be more simple than that

[@Ravynheart]

You know what would be a big QoL change and lend itself to easier crafting from anywhere in the world, is that we just have a global bank instead of drop down list of a bunch of towns that is hard to search through. Town perk unlocks and housing storage would obviously still add to total storage amount. But banking could be simplified a lot. Give us custom tabs/folders that we can add to organize our bank ourselves.

[@thirteenthgrade508]

Glad to see you guys continue to make videos for the game. That’s an amazing thing to do to keep the community in the loop! However I think having in-polls would be good for the community on items and having the community vote

[@Witive]

- I've been stuck multiple times when I die in OPR without being able to respawn, I have to press alt f4 and when I enter I'm cautioned for 1 hour in OPR how you haven't fixed that in 2 years that the game has? - When do you plan to improve optimization? - When will they make a new map in OPR? - Do you pay attention to what the community wants?

[@patrickharrington9806]

better sorting would have been nice, I don't know if i should fear this update or be happy about it. Jewelry, mining, stone cutting, fishing, gathering.. with a splash of cooking and alchemy... hope i still enjoy the game after this change.

[@eaglekidkid]

I would love a Diffenert kinds of Invasions like with the Angry Earth update you should have made an Angry Earth invasions. Imagine the corrupted became blight so you need to stock up on blight pots. Spriggans( or that arena boss in Eden but without the self heal) and bears could get a reskin to match the Earth theme. The Catpultes and Canons can become plants that can attack far( The great Lotus-etc). Brutes become deer and do the same thing run into the door. Priest's can become the Angry version just stronger and can summon minions. Commanders= War Pigs. The last thing would be the skull but that it where i am lost on. Could make it a Giant Ent? it would need to be something big to say the least or remove the skull and get more elites to replace the skull. This would make Invasions so much harder but a lot more unpredicable. Aswell Invasions is the best PVE contant in the game imo. Aswell you could also do a lost version or ancient. There is options

[@Damascus1911A]

Just wondering: What will happen to my physical armor that I already have crafted if the physical/elemental skewed sets are being removed from the crafting? I was already disappointed that the new mithril sets did not have this option, so I held on to my old armor because it is better for some activities than the 700GS armor. Thanks!

[@kodyoneill497]

I just want a simple global storage update… its so frustrating flipping though settlements trying to find items

[@spiritwyrmk8622]

I used to want this a lot, but honestly now it'll be a huge clutter. I divide things by settlement, like all helmets in one, chests in another and such. Finding things in the inventory is hard enough. They could of course add more detailed filters like specific weapons, armors and more. Maybe that way it'll be easier

[@kodyoneill497]

@@spiritwyrmk8622 this is the first game I’ve played where they handle banking like this. Every other game is global. RS has tabs (but also a global tab), eso is just all in one. If they treated settlements like tabs where I could do a global search and pull out what I need that wouldn’t be so bad. My limitation is that I have all wood working in one settlement but now I ran out of space so I have to split them. Then I have to do this juggle when I want to craft. If it was all global and the crafters could access the storage that would be a huge QOL

[@prztrz1850]

wo neue opr map / where new opr map

[@LordGank1]

They’ll let us know about it in June apparently.

[@user-wm5lg1mx6m]

Shut up

[@Xecil]

What an unusual allocation of time and skill, particularly at this moment. Such a decision might escalate New World's atmospheric entry temperature to its peak. Remove the unique item limit of 500 and give us more gear set slots.

[@sgt.thundercok4704]

Seeing the 'Peggy Sue' brigade here in this developer video answers a lot of the questions I had about what type of person would take money to implement what we see in New World.

[@rafaelsousasilva909]

1) Furnishing. 2) I think NW has some space to add mini-games related with trade skills, does not necessary need to be grindy, but fun. A plenty of games are exclusively dedicated in make craft with mini-games that imitate the activity like you guys did with Music Skills. I think this can be fun.

[@ChinaChas1]

I have a question. Since when was it so easy to catch legendary fish? I have never gone to a tier three hot spot with full gear and trophies and caught a legendary fish with every cast. In fact, and more often, I catch maybe one or none at all. Don't get me wrong, I like the changes to cooking but making catching a prime ingredient for meals even more difficult doesn't seem like the way to go. Now, instead of doing other things I like to do, I have to spend even more time fishing. It's that or spend 500 gold for a single high tier meal. This doesn't make sense to me. Yes, the highest tier food should be difficult but making it so difficult that my primary focus now needs to be on fishing kind of sucks.

[@itsc0ba7t]

Thank you for simplifying it! I love NW but the amount of options and items were just too much for the 500 item limit of banks which made sprawling inventory and just difficult. When I returned for the EW update, I litterally just trashed mostly everything becuase I was becoming overwhelmed by the inventory of crap I had... I do think that having more useful items drop while fishing would be nice but that would just encourage more fishing bots :(

[@Apachito]

This is good news because it’ll expand to other trade skills. Also, I really think it’ll impact performance once these menus get cleaned up throughout all the different skills we currently have. I would also like to see different sets be consolidated into one. Like I’ve seen mentioned in the comments. Logging requires a full set, and also to hit the attributes we have specific weapons/jewelry to go along with it. Each gathering set is like that. Earrings for crafting. LET ME MERGE IT ALL!!!!! Thx 🙏🏾

[@toptemidy]

REAL COMMUNITY QUESTION: Is it possible that we'll have good crafting ui in New World? We have a long list of recipes. How should we fix that? - Maybe make a good filtration ui, for example, filter for trade skill? Players really don't need to see tons of furniture recipes when they're crafting Engineering! - NO, We'll cut recipes...

[@Drascylla]

While I understand the rational of these changes, my greatest worry with any form of consolidation is its tendency to make the experience shallower, simplification for that reason just isn't always necessarily a good thing. In a more ideal world, it makes far more sense to look at the fundamental player behavior that leads to why there is less interest in a given item and then adjust them accordingly to make it more appealing in general as apposed to taking items away, which no mater how you sugarcoat it to minimize player outrage, that's effectively what consolidation is. I am just not a fan of this kind of game design approach, and it feels like the lazy option to addressing any problem.

[@pedrorodrigues7409]

JUST IMAGINE THAT WE HAVE FOOD THAT PROVIDES PHYSICAL/ELEMENTAL DEFENSES TO PLAY DG

[@Hkkr1]

Now let us put all those crafting gear in our base and get the buf nstead of each time searching for each item ...

[@rakoth1]

Add legendary drop to animals. Legendary meat that give huge bonus but is rare same as legendary fish. Let us become hunters 😉

[@prycewilkins]

fix the issue with the attribute skill points changing when you fast travel PLEASE i am begging you to fix this issue.

[@MxzStudio]

You guys work so hard ! Keep up the good work ! We see it really! Nice work !

[@maze282828]

Kompanie-Feedback: Pls do not Nerv the food Attribute from 48 to 40. We dont rich our Attribute-Skill Bonus Points anymore 😢

[@dave23122]

ive always hated the stat foods, hate feeling like i need to use them for an optimal build. now it sounds like everything will just be more expensive.

[@kennyLHL]

Hope you guys keep doing the new world game great

[@spiritwyrmk8622]

Something useful we need is a rarity filter in the inventory and storage. Its annoying when when epic and rare items are still tier V and it feels like clutter. Color coding is easier on the eyes. We are visual creatures...

[@GoalMasterLegend]

Are people still playing this game? I dont mean to be rude, I played the game at launch and loved it, but the player base dropped massively and at one point I couldn't even get 5 ppl for a dungeon. Has the player base returned?

[@haktanbaranakkaya3000]

Music should not be overlooked either. 700 GS bard gears would be nice.

[@steelersx6]

no new opr maps yet?

[@davidpearson5349]

So they ARE changing magnify. Even after they said they weren't changing it. OK.

[@LOVRICK_]

Add war practice add 20v20 duels add fully premade oprs like a whole company can play

[@theScary92]

I like split stat food, when u change builds a little u can just use othr fun w/o respec :) too bad u cant get max amount tho

[@Brawur91]

WHEN FIRESTAFF BB NERF/BALANCE? when light melee can breath finally in new opr map/mode?

[@MrGrimord]

Arcana could benefice of a cleanup

[@sameasyourself8678]

season 5 is gonna be a banger!

[@shawnmurphy6670]

Truth be told, the leveling journey wouldn't be al that impacted at all by only having tier 5 food even at level 1. It would reward people for interacting with systems. It's not like leveling experience is meant to be hard.

[@motionsheepz]

I CANT PLAY THE SAME OPR MAP FOR 8 HOURS A DAY ANYMORE

[@ScienceGuy232]

You guys should make a colab with @townsends this guy makes several colonial recipes

[@ChrisMantia]

SIMPLE REFINE, I DON'T NEED ALL THESE SETS OF ARMOR! ADD BOE TAG ON ITEMS SO I CAN FIND THEM IN BAGS. TELL ME HOW MANY ITEMS I OWN ALREADY! I collect names, but i have that name, now i have another named.

[@ezequieltellez9082]

2 ideas, 1) Create a FULL PVP Full Loot zone or map (NO DLC NEED), so new and old player can go fight and get loot, ppl will go to fight (the zone must have some farm o interest), and also ppl will go with no hi-tier, but a economic version of a PVP set (some big chad-hunters will go hi-tier im sure, but thats ok, its fun), so crafters will gain some gold for their no hi-tier builds insted of insta-dismantle, and potions, etc. It will invigorate the market in general. Idea 2) Please let me use some GOLD to buy a month worth of DLC, you know its a PTW wall, and its kinda unfair not be able any more to get to end craft, rewards, farm, etc loot. These will generate ppl to play more time, for gaining some extra gold to maintain the DLC status, or in the end just buy it if you like the full version of the game. Tks a LOT! we need more ppl! :)

[@msmimy6156]

Next is Arcana. Arcana is crazier than cooking skill.

[@MatjeBalovich]

Why all the dislikes? Those are really nice changes. Not that they will revive the game.

[@Sushen117]

Fishing spots will become much more contested, making farming legendary fish harder like hell .. stupid changes

[@MrGrimord]

Would be great if we could master only 1 crafting profession to improve the value of these.

[@user-wm5lg1mx6m]

Delete this

[@I66CHANEL]

🎉🎉

[@justryitmyway]

Whatever. Fix those herb distributions. Tired of grinding the same small area for sage.

[@cesarcastillo6158]

i think it would be nice to create recipes by just combining ingredients aditional to have the recipe, so if i mix flour with butter and berrys i can have a bread that heals or something related to the ingredients, lets say berrys give health but banana give con, then mixing flour butter and banana makes a bread that increase con. Another good opportunity to change is the learn recipe skill, actually we just learn the recipe and then the recipe become trash, there should be a relation between food skill and how good you learn the recipe, this can introduce some value to the recipes and create a more realistic experience of cooking. the learn skill should work the same for music

[@Aaron-xd3le]

WE NEED CROSSWORLD ARENAS :(

[@kristimoore8763]

I have to say that I am NOT looking forward to the fishing changes. I do not want to have to have all the buffs/gear etc. I just want to go out with my fishing pole and fish. I hardly get legendary fish now, so to have to go and find all the stuff to get one in the future is ridiculous. I can understand paring down the cooking list, though. I actually enjoy the cooking in this game with the variety of items to make, but the list is long, too.

[@rong6738]

omg so good! so much value! over here in the trenches of a dying game and they want to flip cooking. The one friend i lost due to fishing can finally come back and play solo for 10 hours. HUGE value add. How about y'all copy pasta some opr maps already? -From Aeternum with Love!

[@user-wm5lg1mx6m]

Shut up

[@nokomoko8832]

now do the same with arcana

[@zoyita04]

I dont want to see armoring simplify because I sometimes dont have a lot of a specific ingredient and with this diversity I have flexibility on the materials. The fishing getting a re work is nice. The food requiring a rarer very rarer fish I guess I wont be crafting that one because I dont fish I dont like mini games. I like the fishing on BDO, autofishing.

[@BUY.YOUTUB.VIEWS.314]

I can't stop laughing! This video is hilarious!

[@AlekseiGriffin]

Quite concerned that this just leads into oversimplification of crafting and game in whole.

[@Vitor_A.]

façam que o ataque leve seja automático!

[@DJMegabit]

FOOD!!! :-) Foodies

[@LibertyOrDeath87]

PVP content please. Literally all anyone really wants. Please!

[@charliekongo9896]

The achievements all re donk u less .... 300 territory in every territory ... 500 pve and 500 pvp factions in each territory .... 5000 breaches closed ! REALLY!!! .... impossible for any one that works or goes to school .... can never reach 100% what were yas thinking thou😢😢😢... I love new world but this hurts 💔

[@Caveman85de]

That's an aholy move from people that don't play. Thank the Gods, I left this mess behind.

[@craybest]

As usual some really bitter queens in the comments lol.

[@zrofluffyboi1643]

Taking bad step back In foods

[@stevenkenney9473]

This sounds awful. More grind for everything basically. Basically nothing new, no new types of foods. Basically a cleanup update more than anything new.

[@craigr.2755]

This is horrible! Do not make everything on. Legendary fish horrible! Don’t do it AGS

[@Sushen117]

Really unnecessary and annoying changes.. just why ???

[@razzafour6887]

Another waste of time, putting crap in the game no one has asked for GG, down to what 8k players and 4k bots :) PUT A NEW OPR MAP IN FFS

[@Kirkland_Drip]

Bro these guys are on it. Guys. Obviously the OPR map is coming. Lol ffs chill.