New York Has Thousands Of Impractical Fallout Shelters- Cheddar Explains

A PSA released by New York City’s Emergency Management in July of 2022 about what to do in a nuclear attack left many New Yorkers - and the internet - puzzled. Many posed the question of why this was released now while others said it left them with more questions than answers. While nuclear preparedness may be a newer topic for some Americans, decades prior it was a much more widespread conversation. In fact, one nationwide initiative was focusing on private and public shelter construction. In New York City alone, there were approximately 18,000 identified sites. So what happened to these fallout shelters and where should New Yorkers turn in case of an emergency?
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[@michaelmcchesney6645]

Some of the B Roll footage in this video is from an old civil defense film called "Duck & Cover" in which that animated turtle taught viewers what to do in the event of a nuclear attack. I showed this film to my students when I was a high school social studies teacher. There is a scene in the film (shown briefly in this video) in which people having a picnic take cover under a picnic blanket. As I explained to my students, if they have no blanket to hide under, equally effective to hiding under a blanket they could crouch down, put their heads between their legs and kiss their ass goodbye.

[@kennyxkazuki713]

I mean if you're under a blanket and significantly far away it would protect you from the heat flash . . . Wouldn't stop you from being under a blanket on fire though

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

A blanket protects u partially from radiation and from heat blast. It’s not good protection but it’s better than nothing. Also nukes were less dangerous in 1952. They were much less deadly and had less of a radius then by 1970 or today

[@michaelmcchesney6645]

@@LucasFernandez-fk8se I realize that a blanket might be marginally better shelter than nothing. But the line was actually designed to make the kids laugh. Judging by the laughter in 4 different sections of U.S. classes, it was funny. But there was also an educational point. The purpose of those civil defense films and all the shelter under the desk drills was not actually to protect the public in the event of a nuclear attack. The purpose was to reassure the public by making them believe there was something they could do to protect themselves and their family. My joke was intended to reinforce the idea that the lessons from the film would not have been very helpful in the event of the attack. My hope was that they might remember that idea when they were taking the NY U.S. History Regents Exam (required to graduate from NY State high schools), especially if there was an essay on that subject.

[@t444edt3]

😅

[@terranhealer]

@@kennyxkazuki713 if you were far enough away you wouldn’t feel the heat flash. If you can feel the heat flash you need to get moving away and perpendicular to the down wind

[@ronndapagan]

With the hurricanes and the snowstorms that New York City has had over the years during the 1960s and since then, the food water and supplies could have been used for those disasters as well. Having grown up as a child in the 1960s and 1970s, those supplies in the fall out shelters could have been put to better use instead of allowing it to rot.

[@spritemon98]

Yeah that's more realistic than a nuke dropping onto the city

[@archdukefranzferdinand4429]

@@spritemon98 not saying that the food and supplies couldn’t have been better utilized. But during the 60s and 70s a nuclear war was anything but unrealistic. It was an unfortunately realistic possibility and still continues to be today. It could be considered rather wasteful to prepare so much supplies and food for an event that has such a proportionately rare chance of happening but at the same time it would be a big discredit to consider it an unrealistic scenario.

[@damonroberts7372]

Crazy that supplies would simply be allowed to expire (but US govt has an international reputation for being wasteful). Switzerland rotates its shelter supplies, which are diverted to other uses before they expire.

[@spritemon98]

@@damonroberts7372 no one said we were that smart lol

[@penskepc2374]

@@archdukefranzferdinand4429 people that think like the comment above you can't understand anything other than what's in front of them, don't expect him to be able to put himself in that scenario.

[@ericvulgate]

If nukes are ever launched at us I will DEFINITELY be outside to experience the chaos.

[@Qboi1982]

You won’t experience anything if you’re outside think about it

[@__jonbud______________________]

@@Qboi1982 that's not accurate. There's some horror stories from Japanese survivors who were far enough away to survive but close enough to suffer in the aftermath... The story about people trying to avoid the fires by swiming through a river but succumbing to their injuries and increased exposure while immersed in the ash filled water is one that I find haunting.

[@zohdimuharam200]

Yeah good luck with that

[@ericvulgate]

@@zohdimuharam200 hey thanks! Enjoy your bunker!

[@nazapadu02]

​@@__jonbud______________________

[@somethingsomething404]

most air conditioners don’t pull air in from outside but I agree less air movement in general is good. If it’s not a portable AC with an exhaust tube it’s probably not exchanging air with the outside, even those only bring air in to replace what air is exhausted to cool the unit

[@falsernet]

Came here to comment this

[@bryanjk]

Yup, well balanced HVAC systems won't cause negative pressure which would suck in air through small cracks / windows / etc.

[@couriersix8294]

@@bryanjk so u could in theory if u have a closed hvac system stop radioative air coming in by running the hvac?

[@mehere8038]

window units usually have the option of pulling air in or recirculating it. The split system the video showed though doesn't have the pull air in option

[@meberg500]

I was thinking similarly. While many AC units can/do pull fresh air into the building, the wall-mount ductless unit they showed on the screen is one of the few systems out there where pulling in outside air is just not an option. Turning off exhaust fans would be waaayyyyyy better advice!

[@avilesluissolano]

Ok, but you never talked about what happened to all the shelters?

[@shadowstorm7]

I live in Los Angeles.In East Los Angeles where the sheriff station and library are there was one. The sign was on the old library building, it was demolished to make room for the new library. I was able to save the sign before the old building was torn down. The new building has no mention of a shelter anymore which means it too was demolished. The capacity of that shelter was 120 people.

[@hamentaschen]

"The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."

[@joedirt3449]

"easy there, big fellow!"

[@greggcollins4215]

My BoyScout troop stocked shelters in my hometown. One was in the County Court House basement. Two were under Grain Elevators. We stocked what amounted to hardtack biscuits and hard candy. Water barrels to be filled as needed. Years later all this had been moved to the county shop.

[@wateralwayswet]

much better than letting it rot in there. those things are meant to be rotated and replenish

[@CreeperBomb6]

It would've been cool if they showed the insides of actually prepared fallout shelters in the city.

[@stephendennis5969]

Thousands of shelters and didn’t tour a one? I realize most were probably a windowless room in the basement, but there’s probably a few that we’re really cool inside.

[@jasonreed7522]

If they are anything like the one in the basement of my highschool then they are basically just a borung windowless concrete box with some old junk being stored in them. And while i doubt that shelter would actually do anything, it atleast was used for drills and i think a couple of lockdowns. (I don't remember if those were actual threats or just drills. But we did have atleast 1 serious bomb threat because a delinquent wrote on a bathroom stall and they have to take every threat seriously. We were moved out onto the athletic fields and then walked to the bus garage for early dismissal after it was taking too long to resolve.) That said, i think it would still have some merit to show them even as a boring concrete basement.

[@darkwoodmovies]

There was one in the building I grew up in. I guess after the USSR fell, they never bothered to take down the signs.

[@hufficag]

It seems the USSR never fell. They're building bomb proof doors in every underground parking garage in China in the new highrise buildings. Also the shopping malls have those doors. So in case WW3 starts, the Chinese have some place to hide.

[@whatever_12]

I always had the question of why hasn't more research been conducted in Japan to determine how long before radiation drop to livability etc..

[@aam7670]

I'd say because those nukes especially little boy were horribly inefficient and wouldn't function such as even 50s and 60s versions..

[@Shinzon23]

...there was. The yanks were all over Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the bombs to see the effects, including lying about why people were coughing up blood, for example.

[@Shinzon23]

@@Bobspineable Because most of the people who were most affected by the radiation have all died decades ago. What I'm bringing up is that the people who were there when the bomb went off were affected for the rest of their life but due to most radiation from a nuke going off is relatively high energy it decays into far less harmful byproducts pretty quickly; I think by the time it was the sixties you could still detect the radiation on a good Geiger counter but it was well within normal background

[@Shinzon23]

@Zaydan Naufal I'm talking about the death toll over decades, not the immediate blast. People were dying from the nukes for decades as their radiation damaged bodies gave out slowly.

[@whatever_12]

@@Shinzon23 the true data on death will never be known, Am pretty sure the usa monitored the health of those affected by radiation when they were controlling japan tho

[@BobFrTube]

In elementary school, we were taught the missile would hit at Columbus Circle and being in East New York the motto was 10Megatons duck and cover 100Megatons don't bother.

[@cosmic_pursuit]

I wonder why Columbus Circle? It would have the most damage, being central?

[@BobFrTube]

@@cosmic_pursuit I wondered too. Now that we know what lousy shots they are it's even more questionable.

[@Shinzon23]

Both sides didn't really use that large of bomb and those would have been delivered by strategic bomber not ICBM... Tsar Bomba was a propaganda thing. The soviets had no plans to use it in reality

[@richardreilly7085]

Window AC's can pull in fresh air depending on the model and either way, they are not a tight seal compared to a closed window, however the split-unit type AC depicted in the video is "misleading" (lol pun intended) as split unit AC's DO NOT interact with outside air at all, just a small fact check.

[@damonroberts7372]

Moot point anyway, because the nukes will be targeted to cause maximum disruption to utilities including power, water supply and telecommunications. NYC would be blackout.

[@richardreilly7085]

@@damonroberts7372 We are talking about ac's drawing in contaminated air, not providing cooling, the electrical doesn't matter.

[@jasonreed7522]

@@richardreilly7085 the electrical does matter because ACs use electrically driven fans to push air around. However, some systems are poorly sealed. And all systems circulate some kind of coolant (either chilled water or refrigerant) which may become slightly radioactive and then bring that radioactive fluid inside to the heat exchanger. (Although i don't know the rate at which any refrigerant/coolant wood become dangerous to occupiers of a space so its probably a moot point)

[@batya7]

I remember emergency drills in grade school: go to the school's basement, line up against a particular wall, facing it, and wait for the all clear. A version of duck and cover, late 1960s.

[@Galactipod]

The idea of duck-and-cover is to *immediately* take cover in less than a second. Can you go to the basement in milliseconds?

[@ablemagawitch]

Like the spelling be line until you're next and if lucky you stay standing. I always kinda admired the kid that would spell their first wrong going k-a-t-t and as they went by to go sit down and end the misery and public embarrassment, they said I knew cat had only 1 T .......

[@Logic44]

Yeah, as soon as thermonuclear warheads came in, it was more of the KYAGB system. (Kiss your ass goodbye) You ain't fighting a fucking H-bomb...

[@Shinzon23]

​@@Galactipodgetting to the basement is to guard against the Fallout not against the initial blast

[@I.____.....__...__]

RFK said that if a nuclear-war were to break out, he wouldn't take his family to a fallout-shelter because why would he want to survive it and come out into a nuclear wasteland with a tiny handful of survivors?

[@elmann_]

You just need to also include a means to get to a region that is far enough from the bulk of the fallout and not downwind. Why would you assume it's only going to be a "tiny handful of survivors" overall? There will still likely be other people, just not from the immediate area if you're in somewhere that'd be a higher priority. If you live in a city and need advice on traveling large distances possibly without the aid of regular access to gas stations, please consult anyone in your community who's a recent arrival and speaks Español.

[@michaelz.7140]

better go and freeze yourself - VaultTec always there for you

[@SmooshGoo]

Fall out game in real life!!! Giant Radroaches and RATSS!!! Sounds fun to me 😍

[@jasonreed7522]

@@elmann_ assuming this statement was made durring the cold war its likely the assumption was that multiple nukes would devastate the nation making a wasteland with alot fewer survivors than the pre-strike population. That said, i assume that even if the USA was functionally destroyed that some other small nation would survive like Chile or Argentina by virtue of being far from major targets. (Not that getting to them would be easy)

[@Shinzon23]

The United States is large enough that there would be large areas that wouldn't be affected very much by either direct impact from the nukes or from being irradiated from Fallout.

[@Petriefied0246]

I remember moving to Ohio in the early nineties and the number of nuclear fall out shelters really scared me. I had nightmares for weeks after I arrived!

[@ztrguy]

My hometown had a Nike Missile Site a few miles away. The elementary school I attended had the Civil defense insignia built into the brickwork on the side of the school

[@AndrewKidd14145]

That’s all it took signs for some nightmares?!

[@Petriefied0246]

@@AndrewKidd14145 whether you appreciate it or not, it was the end of the cold war, the start of the Gulf war, combined with someone from Scotland who had never seen anything of the sort. It was a massive culture shock to say the least, not helped by having never heard a freight train horn in the middle of the night. Yes, I had nightmares.

[@AndrewKidd14145]

@@Petriefied0246 wow,

[@hufficag]

@@AndrewKidd14145 I'm a Canadian who lives in China and I have nightmares now. I used to have pleasant dreams of exploring old villages and just meeting new people in the alleys and shopping malls like we did in waking life. Just this morning I woke up with a nightmare. 4:50 AM 02/10/2022 Had a dream I was somewhere crowded, a train station or something. People were herded like cattle. Some little unaccompanied boy was forced to wait 24 hours after getting his ticket with no food and water. He puked up something yellow, some internal organ burst. The floor was covered in that yellow goo and everyone was stepping into it. Near the other wall a crowd of people were squeezing into the room and those who didn't deem to comply were bloodied and bashed against the wall. Soon later the workers in white suits came and repainted the walls and floor in white. And I'm thinking, the paint might look fresh but how much blood had stained these walls recently? Later I was walking along that same wall towards another corner, to the exit. We were all turned to the wall hunched over meekly while the workers in white aggressively grabbed us by the shoulder while they sprayed something from a pressureized bottle. I turned my face away and closed my eyes while it was sprayed, thinking it might be poison or at least somewhat toxic, if it's some kind of disinfectant. He sprayed my back from left to right but kept spraying the right shoulder, not moving on to the next person. Was there something dirty on my right shoulder? why did he stop? I think he just hated me particularly much. Oh well I'm going to die anyways, nothing left to loose. I twisted out of his bony fingers on my collarbone, and pushed him to the ground. I used my elbow to bash his skull into the ground to make him stop resisting. I grabbed his limp body and said he needs some fresh air, I'm going to take him outside for some fresh air. And then I woke up.

[@JV-pu8kx]

Enough facilities exist for the entire population, and more, of Switzerland to go underground, if the need ever arises.

[@danielgonzalez5787]

well yeah, there's only like 50 people in Switzerland

[@JV-pu8kx]

@@danielgonzalez5787 8.7 million.

[@danielgonzalez5787]

@@JV-pu8kx are you seriously correcting me? do you really believe that i think that there are only 50 people in a country?

[@RC2225]

sorry, I doubt that. Probably all private shelters are not ready. Used as storage space or wine cellar. Then multiple large shelters were downsized or decommissioned like the famous one in Luzern. I assume most shelters from the civil protection service are only minimal stocked with medical supplies, if any. Then there is the same issue as in Manhattan, most people don't work anymore in their village or neighboring village. I doubt Zürich has enough space during the day. Additionally, new house construction does not need any shelter, and even prior you could buy in to public shelters.

[@crazyjack3357]

I would figure the underground subway would be a good fallout location and could hold a much larger population

[@amhuman5138]

See: Metro

[@vonfaustien3957]

@@amhuman5138 it's a real thing the Soviets built the Moscow and several other metro systems to double as bunkers and the Moscow one aledgedly has tunnles to the Kremlin, other goverment buildings and a military base outside the city. The Metro in Metro is pretty grounded aside from the mutants anyway

[@jasonreed7522]

The DC subway is built very deep for exactly this purpose. Although the main issue for the NYC subway is that its horribly sealed as evidenced by all the water the pours in every time it rains. (And properly sealing your shelter is a big deal)

[@Michaelengelmann]

I remember that. Crazy. Felt like I was in an alt 1960s. I live in Bristol, between Philly & Trenton or Philly & NYC, rly close when talking abt nukes

[@waedidmyhandlechange]

I wonder if other channels would post similar videos shortly after. Seems like all these channels just bounce topics off each other.

[@mats7492]

That’s how YT works these days

[@somethingsomething404]

Bandwagon algorithm..

[@paulohagan3309]

Can be interesting though sometimes to get same/similar topics from different perspectives/angles, different hosts, etc. and often extra info.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

Actually an air conditioner that looks like that image doesn't pull in any air from the outside. You should run ones like that to keep your now cramped shared living space comfortable. Whole building/central AC pulls in air from outside, but those little ductless split systems do not. Cheddar, I think this is worth clarifying.

[@extrastuff9463]

Same thing I thought about as well when I saw it, that said it might be preferable not to run it especially if that's in a less sealed exterior facing room. Any radioactive dust that makes it into the room is more likely to be pushed around more through the whole place making it further towards the more protected rooms. Would certainly be better to focus on closing all windows, switching active ventilation systems off and closing/blocking passive ones if possible.

[@karol4775]

1. I recently had the opportunity to rain on a competitors parade so to speak cause his price was a fraction of mine cause he was gona use wireless sensors to control the boiler as opposed to mine that needed to be wired he just damn near got the job too, but then I asked how do you plan to get the wireless signal from the highrise into an nuclear fallout shelter in the sub basement. 2. that AC unit you used in this video does not have outside air it just recirculates indoor air and any particulate would be cought in its filter and its actually better to leave it running than turning it off.

[@locutusvonborg2k3]

that moderator is not just so beatiful, her voice is so good. cheddar in general has very good employes with equally good voices to listen to.

[@JakHart]

Portland has a similar system of signs downtown, but they are more appropriate, as they deal directly with a zombie apocalypse.

[@JakHart]

The signs weren't out up as a joke either.

[@MalaysiaBarista]

7.30 , air-conditioning does not pull air from the outside . It cools air indoors , especially single unit residential like in this video .

[@Think890]

The Private vs Public shelter......hmmm wonder which one will have more suspect construction

[@GraduateJLN]

😂😭I would say create your own shelter but there’s no way in NY

[@jasonreed7522]

Atleast the "prepers" who are paranoid about this stuff will probably have decent enough bunkers, although when the finally emerge they will probably just kill eachother out of suspicion. If the world goes full fallout series then likely only people in nuclear subs are actually going to survive, atleast until the food runs out.

[@Wisconsin.pikachu]

My old high school and middle school had "fallout shelter" signs on them but they only had a basic basement, no doors to seal it shut, no food or water saved in them, no cots, nothing for a disaster

[@dynamicdragoness]

Same, I would look at the "fallout shelter" building at my school and be like, "No way this is gonna do shit for a nuclear fallout". It was a pretty neat sign, just felt like it was in the wrong place.

[@sheadjohn]

the split unit a/c they showed with no outside air inlet is just fine. it is the outside make up air that would draw in dust from the outside of the building. the exception would be if there was already radiated dust in the building that you were in.

[@chrisgeorge74]

Many buildings outside NYC in the burbs also have these signs too

[@Fossillarson]

My elementary school had big shelter down stairs total of 3 schools all 3 had them. Big blast doors ect. Still be used but not upgraded for extended stays

[@CCMqueretaro]

The fact the PSA uses the term, "The big one has hit" is the most American thing ever

[@DingoXBX]

i see a lot of these NY fallout shelter signs on old buildings, one in the Passaic area and I always wondered because it literally just looks like a normal apartment building

[@samanthab1923]

They are. I distinctly remember one on my Nan’s apt. bldg. in Yonkers.

[@cdw3088]

What happened to other cities fallout shelters?

[@tonysuckadickliano2090]

Sorry sir this is the NYC yt channel

[@RandomBogey]

The house next door to my childhood home has a cool hidden Cold War era fallout shelter and the previous owner’s kids and I would play down there all the time growing up. That family eventually moved and the current owners failed to maintain it, or any of the property to be honest, and the shelter ended up flooding. They didn’t notice and over time the weight of the water caused the shelter to sink and it pulled the house’s foundation/basement with it which caused extensive damage and absolutely tanked the value of their property. It’s a shame because it’s a really cool house, too…

[@shaider1982]

I wonder if all of those each have a GECK inside.

[@xavierlove775]

I live in Parkchester and I see signs on the buildings indicating fallout shelters

[@johnrivera922]

Great info. Learned a lot. And the Columbia guy is funny. I like him. Good job sir. And don’t forget, duck and cover.

[@berylrosenberg704]

The entire NYC - Manhattan and likely the 5 boroughs would be within the blast radius according to well publicized scenarios of a potential nuclear attack. The prudent plan would be to conduct a volume attendance study and build up to date shelters in the boroughs that can accommodate ALL of NYC's residents with food+water+hygiene+air for one month. Anything less would fall short of protecting the residents of New York City/Boroughs if there is an actual threat or even the potential of threat of a nuclear attack. Let us pray and vote accordingly to prevent such a situation ever occurs.

[@eaterdrinker000]

Might be cheaper to just "disappear" the oligarchy of the Russian Federation. Just saying.

[@ThatBlackJack]

They did that as a part of the community shelter program in the late 50s and early 60s. I have scanned copies of the engineering report and the published shelter plan for the DFW area. They are an interesting read.

[@frankdayton731]

The entire five boroughs? Do you actually know how large NYC is? Over 350 square miles. Nuclear weapons are very powerful, but they aren't magical things.

[@joshuacheung6518]

You would need multiple hits to put the entirety of nyc into blast radii. That said, one average nuke would be enough to shut down the city for the most part.

[@kazimir8086]

At 7:30, there is a mistake. This AC Unit works without outside air.

[@RBzee112]

Yeah. It's the heat exchanger that's on the outside, not air circulation.

[@meberg500]

Exactly. Just about any AC can bring in outside air if you want it to. Even ductless ceiling cassettes have a fresh air duct connection, but not wall mount. Poor choice of graphics, and turning off exhaust fans would be better advice - most people don't consider the cause and effect relationship between pulling air out of the building and the necessity of a source of makeup air. It's just going to leak in around your windows and doors.

[@joshuacheung6518]

Air conditioners do more the pull in outside air, it circulates the air inside. This moves particles from small openings further into the room much like a fan would.

[@FatherBlue]

On here because I saw grandma on the thumbnail. My dude made it big! ❤

[@xg6hpyk]

I remember my grammar school had one of those signs on it somewhere. Wonder if it's still there

[@jjose10911]

I love how they called it THE BIG ONE

[@dynamicdragoness]

Weird, my school still kept the sign.

[@zefzec4462]

My town’s post office is a old fallout shelter and has the sign

[@4dogsgaming]

Surviving a blast is all dependent on where you are in relation to effective fallout wind.

[@rock4cheese]

7:26 correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure home ACs just recycle the room's air. It doesn't bring in air from outside

[@samsu859]

can cause pressure differentials in different rooms when the fan is running as most home ACs are not exactly balanced, so those pressure differentials will cause air from the outside to come inside as homes in the US are not built very tightly

[@jasonreed7522]

Depends on the exact model, the one that was shown doesn't bring in outside air. Although homes and window AC units aren't very well sealed. (Normally this is fine as it gets oxygen inside and outside air is generally cleaner than inside air. However, in the wake of a nuke its terrible, and making your home negatively pressurized is a terrible idea. Ideally you would positively pressurize your shelter location with air sent through a perfect filter to remove any dangerous radioactive junk from it first, as this means leaks will push radiation out instead of sucking it in.)

[@Melissa0774]

You'd think some of these shelters would've been used on 911when the towers were coming down. I would think that would've been a bigger test than anything, of how helpful they are.

[@Melissa0774]

@@vinncubus4628 I know, but still, you'd think someone, somewhere in the city would've went into one, maybe once the second plane hit. Maybe someone who happened to have one in their building and knew where it was.

[@Shinzon23]

They were. Some of the older police and first responders who knew where they were directed people to them, though not many as they were trying to understand what exactly was happening and if it would keep happening that day

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

Was that a PSA on nuclear fallout or COVID-19? The three steps seemed suspiciously the same.

[@elderlord5164]

Did they take down the ones upstate as well?

[@brucewayne5140]

I remember those signs from when I was age 3-4 in New York!

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

"The big one has hit." Uh, obviously not. You are still standing there alive. If an MIRV falling towards the ground, at 25 times the speed of sound with a 1 megaton nuclear warhead, "hits", then all of Manhattan is instantly dead.

[@rubix187]

An nuclear explosion in NYC would be deadly. But NYC is already deadly with the amount of air pollution.

[@kalik6]

that ac type doesn't really bring in fresh air lol but the gas within it does circulate outside, but would that transfer much radiation to the inside? Idk

[@MIKES0029]

In middle school as punishment I was forced (along with other kids) to clean out the old bomb shelter supplies..,

[@whatweather]

That guy should have given her his jacket

[@urlv.]

Why?

[@penskepc2374]

Cheddar explains very shortsightedly.

[@paxtoncargill4661]

We should convert them into apartments

[@VanillaCupcakes13]

The signs are still everywhere in Flatbush.

[@StackableGoldMC]

The timing of all of this.

[@siyacer]

We need

[@sunvol4503]

An AC mini split doesn't bring in air from the outside like you showed.

[@thedukeofswellington1827]

I grew up in Philadelphia and saw these signs everywhere then i moved to central florida. Where i lived was all built after the 70s and newly developed and would have no idea where to go. No basements in florida either...woulda been screwed

[@michelleb7399]

As a GenX’er, we grew up knowing that if we were actually hit, we’d just be pretty much SOL. Our parents grew up with “duck and cover” drills and fallout shelter regulations. The college I attended had a building that was put in place in the 1960’s and so had to be built to meet fallout shelter codes. Amongst your otherwise picturesque landscape and collegiate red brick cozy cottage buildings on my campus was the newer unit which looked like a prison. By the time I started college, they were talking about taking down the fallout shelter signage as all it did was give false sense of security. No wonder we all charged our credit cards like there was no tomorrow. We grew up thinking there was a good chance there would be no tomorrow if “the Soviets” decided to nuke us. Ah, yeah, wait… we are nostalgic for the 80’s eh?

[@jed-henrywitkowski6470]

So losing a chunk of a large city is more likely losing the country (immediately) to nukes.

[@Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyy]

Chicago had them they’re all over base in Quantico as well.

[@MayorMcC666]

we have 0 reason to be less paranoid about dying in a nuclear holocaust. every single day now we are more at rist of dying in a nuclear holocaust as any day during the cold war.

[@Blackwater_House]

Most Public Fallout Shelters are simply poorly disguised Walk In Tombs, Offering Absolutely minimal survivability.

[@DistractedDaisy]

Background music near the end of video is too loud!

[@flashahhasavedeveryoneofus2824]

Big cheeks. At 9:02

[@soupwho]

There is one in my to in walton ny its at are usps after so many years tho the took the sign down and like dam it was literly the same one as in the vid , i seen this vid when it came out but i never clicked on it. So now im glade it popped back up so i could say all this but yeah it was on a brick beam right next to the usps building in walton ny im sure theres pic if anyone wants to look it up.

[@kazimir8086]

Just duck and cover!

[@Billyboy4209]

Have one down the street from me, not on any map.. well marked though if you know what you are looking for

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Early warning systems give people time to seek shelter though, Space Force jurisdiction.

[@Slevin-Kelevra]

If its a terrorist attack most likely wont be any early warning. If China/Russia/Korea/USA or Pakistan/India have a shitting contest that goes live, no point. Total Nuclear Winter. 90 to 99 percent of all life gone. Dinasour instinction 2.0.

[@Shinzon23]

Not really given that some icbms have flight times of like 25 minutes...

[@jacky445]

New York got one big shelter called subway.

[@kennyxkazuki713]

Can't gama rays punch through a foot of lead? What's a brick wall going to do?

[@tyde5]

I thought ACs pull air from the inside and vent the heat to the outside?

[@thegreatempire3882]

Duck and cover under school desks. They can withstand anything 😅😂😂😂

[@AdamHugginsJ]

That’s crazy

[@cptcrogge]

Well it was a bad idea to abandon those shelters.

[@nannerz1994]

Is cheddar aware of any other city in the US?

[@danielyeroshalmi7492]

theres one a few houses down from me. in a building

[@swdupree1]

All old public school were fall out shelters

[@anthonymolina4982]

Saw one of those signs under a tree once in new york. Least I know that tree keeps me safe from nuclear radiation.

[@MetalTiger88]

how about fleeing into the subway system?

[@Shinzon23]

This would work unless a bomb managed to crack the rock and flood the tunnels. Also once the power goes out from blast/EMP or from people not keeping the power grids up, then any pumps or air ventilation system shut down and people start drowning and suffocating

[@Kylehoulihan]

Let me just grab my red camp chair and a bottle because we’re all going to hell in a hand basket at this point 😐

[@LinkTheFusky]

i dont know why no one mentioned the subway stations get on a train and stay on it

[@ZNotFound]

Jeffrey (Not going to attempt the last name) Jeff, looks like a matured Leonard from Big Bang Theory.

[@60Secondsinfo]

is that Umbrella Corporation logo?

[@theprofessorfate6184]

I'm still hoping the movie Failsafe becomes a reality.

[@queeny5613]

Awesome

[@annehersey9895]

The thicker the better but windows totally cancelled out the walls.

[@joshuacheung6518]

Not totally, there's more wall than window.

[@vonsopas]

Yikes, the real menace of nuclear war during the times of COVID and gentrification is kind of scary

[@adriennefloreen]

It's interesting that on September 12th you posted this video and played that absurd PSA about preparing for nuclear war not only once but twice and featured a guy in the middle saying that the PSA contained good advice, then downplayed the likelyhood and danger of nuclear war over and over. Russia just replaced all their nukes with bigger ones that can go farther and evade missile defense systems.

[@joshuacheung6518]

If russia starts flinging nukes, nothing helps. If you watched the video, you'd see that they mention use cases where that PSA would be useful-dirty bombs and backpack nukes.

[@lothean2099]

After I saw that movie the day after and the original terminator, I asked myself. Do you really want to survive that. Your government will fail you, and your next series of survival will based on how well you can fight off your fellow survivors.

[@__jonbud______________________]

Why? How? The fighting you describe tends to happen over resources. Last I checked... Wait, let me look outside... Yup plenty of green and tons of edible stuff growing (farmed and wild) in between the cities around New York. Just won't want to be to close or downwind from anywhere that won't exist afterwards, anyways.

[@Mantikal]

Yeah but will I experience a delay in getting the latest version of the iPhone delivered by Amazon? Such happy and peppy music over a dark topic.

[@nateb9768]

Not really worth it to survive if you’re going to suffer from radiation poisoning and lifelong pain.

[@ztrguy]

Who's the girl doing the interview?

[@YESITSWILL]

Surprised the shelters haven´t been turned into ABNB´s.

[@owenmccord5078]

2:16 -2 points for calling him a “fallout shelter expert” instead of a “fallout boy,” or “fall out man,” etc…

[@agoodun]

If there's around 18,000 fallout shelters, there'd have to be about 611 people inside each shelter to house 11 million New Yorkers. Lol 🤣🤣🤣