New York Yacht Club American Magic capsizes after strong wind gust at Prada Cup | Motorsports on NBC

[@ClearAdventure]

A huge thank you to the competitors teams coming to help the Americans, it means a lot, thank you all. ❤️

[@douglasyork7174]

It'd be awesome if NBC would televise the whole event in the US for less than $175. Its like you don't even want us to watch it.

[@nicksimmons7234]

It’s live on KZbin.

[@TheoSmith249]

@@nicksimmons7234 Not in the USA- NBC made sure of that.

[@duncanb1981]

Vpn it through KZbin

[@nicksimmons7234]

@@TheoSmith249 Sorry to hear, it's Live in the UK.

[@MrLimeybeans]

Watching it on Yubetube in Canada.

[@elvislives-gl4rv]

1st Mate: " Bet you can't get the whole hull airborn" Captain: "Hold my wine spritzer"

[@danmc7815]

Wine spritzer? Never seen them at a sailboat race. However, I have seen rum and beer. But not mixed together.

[@Dino.808]

The technology that goes to making these Yachts are impressive.

[@bremCZ]

Technology is an uncountable noun.

[@andrewhigdon8346]

@@bremCZ BUT, if he had said, “the technologies that go into making these yachts are impressive he could have been correct. Carbon fiber technology, composite technology, aerodynamic technology, computer simulation technology, hydrodynamics technology, lots of technologies. Now they need endodermic retention technology. That water is cold.

[@bremCZ]

@@andrewhigdon8346 Yes, but you need to grade your language learning so as not to confuse the learner. You first learn that technology is uncountable and later when you understanding of it is greater do you learn that it is both. Similar to learning that you cannot use stative verbs in the continuous form, but in advanced teachings learn that you actually can.

[@AWSum-uf4ri]

Dang cool boat and engineers.

[@benalexander9907]

What’s the top speeds if anyone knows please.

[@joshbobst1629]

She sailed too close to the sun.

[@rogersurf4149]

I was the backstay runner that didn't get released! Check 0:14. See how the port runner is holding the top of the mainsail in?

[@MrLundefaret]

Must have been a good dose of adrenalin as the boat went for the sky in the effort to get it straight?

[@shoalbayboy]

And at 45.2 knots at 00:15

[@Scowguy]

Another potential issue was the tack shortly before the bear away. Like an iceboat, velocity needs to be max entering the bear away to get through the “danger zone”. The boat was slowed due to the tack and was not fully to speed when they fell off to the reach.

[@6yjjk]

@@AntonioPiccolboni Kenny Loggins' house.

[@duc696monster6]

Bs wasnt a gust, they didnt let off port backstay plus bad communication of the helmsmen, his fault not the wind..

[@Katelinxox1]

listening to the comms on another thread Barker questions the tack bear away , Goody says hard manoeuvre ,this was Terry Hutchinson's call, he's the skipper. Not saying it was a bad call either, in race mode with Prada not that far behind and trying to keep the foot on the throat they took the gate with more breeze and did get a big puff on that rounding.

[@TornadoCAN99]

Didn't show any of the aftermath...where the boat was taking on water and teams were scrambling to keep it afloat before it went to "Davy Jones' locker". Turns out there is a massive hole punched through the hull just aft of the wing arm system. Major repairs underway...4 days to next race.

[@MrLimeybeans]

Saw it on KZbin.They attached a line to get it upright but the bow was submerged.

[@toadamine]

Nothing money can't fix... lmao

[@ronaldschwigel2286]

SCARY-NO ONE HURT THATS GOOD.

[@malancronje6805]

They should've had Cuomo and De Blasio onboard.

[@twagoner21]

why are you yelling?

[@conantdog]

I hope no elites were hurt 😂

Just their employees.

[@Vera-xu3xw]

Someone is Jelly 🤣

[@xtusvincit5230]

At least they stole the US election, so they have something to be happy about.

[@theamazingmystico1243]

A metaphor for the ship of state.

[@malancronje6805]

Hope the Big guy is okay. LMAO

[@boballard6040]

Happened to me in 1970 on a 14ft Sunfish.

[@xtusvincit5230]

Which world race did it cause you to lose?

[@JonDunnmusician]

Awesome 👌 been there too Bob

[@blobimations5148]

No, they capsized because one of their teammates forgot to release the leeward backstay. Stupid decision anyway with a 45 second lead

[@andrewtaylor9615]

Maybe it got stuck and the coxswain lost rudder authority and they couldn't de-power...

[@DS-tc9ww]

Anyway, it's more fun to do all this with a 2 man crew while the skipper is putting up the kite and the crew is changing traps, but then if they had 505 sailors on this crew, none of this would have happened...and it was kind of fun to watch.

[@whitesky18]

As Joshua Slocum once said: "It pays to have a keel sometimes..."

[@willemjacobs6635]

@Bolia Fops o

[@voornaam3191]

@Bolia Fops o oh

[@captraykelly]

Heartbreaker. Glad no one died.

[@williamford9564]

For the first time in my life, I watch a Yachting video......

[@bigglyguy8429]

Not really a yacht; these things are more like spaceships

[@joescola7498]

Welcome to the life endangering world of high speed sailing.

[@spikespa5208]

William Ford So you only watch things when there are accidents?

[@Ash-cy7yw]

Thank you for the KZbin video post! California.

[@phillipmckinnon6883]

Rooting for three teams now. U.K., Australia, New zealand

[@rexandersen5346]

They should rename it the American Marlin

[@edwardhewer8530]

Excellent edit MSNBC. Thanks.

[@spicyroads]

They must have been watching the monster trucks last night

[@jjthomas2297]

This boat did not capsize due to winds, it was poor seamanship

[@DRRB23]

I was there on the day it was really windy and that wind caused them to tip after they went airborne

[@BHJ7115]

@@DRRB23 Then how come the other boats were still upright?

[@DRRB23]

@@BHJ7115 because it was a case of the winds picked up jst as they went in the air

[@BHJ7115]

@@DRRB23 So they were leading the way to a disaster.

[@voornaam3191]

Poor seamanship? Are you suggesting the crew members were blowing?!

[@chrisholcombe137]

It wants to FLY What a lead it had

[@jomon723]

I like the Good Old Days

[@Auckland_Smart_Technology]

A good lesson for such a complex environment

[@gigiandsav2029]

Amen Thank god you are all okay 🗽👍🇺🇲🍿

[@JBPalmBeach]

For Fks Sake you could have shown how it was recovered.

[@spikespa5208]

Yeah. Wouldn't have taken much time to show it being righted. NBC for ya.

[@wolfharthiphop]

How do they recover it?

[@davemacmurchie6982]

My boat partner told me of a motorcycle racer who crewed with him and said after his first big breeze race, "Amazing - whether you're out of control at 10 mph or 200 mph, the thrill is the same"

[@MrLimeybeans]

OUR 33FT sailboat was out front in a race when this rolling pipeline of cloud came at us. We dropped all sails just as it hit us laying us right over in torrential rain. The radio was full of chatter as other boats were asking where " this one or that one "was. My wife thought we'd lost two crew as we couldn't see them. They were both wrapped up in the jib,to hold it down. All safe.All but three boats retired,the 3 went on to finish the race under blue sky.

[@matthewsmith177]

Seems every one is an expert after the fact captain hindsight

[@MrLimeybeans]

A crewman voiced his concern as they approached the mark. Someone didnt heed the warning!

[@BHJ7115]

Looks like America has lost it's magic.

[@daddyrabbit835]

That's an understatement... it's like we're racing to the bottom

[@phillipgage7356]

The sky is falling. Repent or perish.

[@JonDunnmusician]

Long ago Enter China

[@sharonshaddix3287]

Amazing

[@toadamine]

First time in a sailboat? Ease the mainsheet!

[@spockspock]

Those are some very fancy boats.

[@ghimdohghyun]

Why American magic dose not starboard side mark rounding for softly smooth turning of 42 knots speed? So~ sad...

[@ashleywynn4923]

Kinda fitting for whats goin on in usa

[@malancronje6805]

Next 1 will be build in China with major kickbacks to politicians.

[@pipersmitty87]

New York

[@Lehmann108]

The idiotic thing here is that their lead was so great that they did not have to tack like this. Way too risky in this wind.

[@newzealandfortrump]

Hey I know what ...... ‘Let’s Capsize’ ......

[@wibble5676]

The most fun part of sailing!

[@tylerclark3747]

Is this a samiam band reference?

[@cjpruitt]

Feel like it’s weird for Pirelli to sponsor a yacht team, or do they make anything else besides tires?

[@jj9749]

wheels for yachts? not their most successful division

[@duncanb1981]

Their calendars are👌. But mostly they are a huge Italian company supporting an Italian team.

[@q.e.d.9112]

Emirates (airline) sponsors NZ boat. Ineos (chemicals) sponsors UK boat. Airbus (airplane manufacturer) sponsors USA boat. So what’s weird about Pirelli sponsoring Italy? Also, don’t forget the regatta is the Prada (fashion) Cup.

[@michaelwise1224]

Pirelli also make hydraulic hose and fittings. Their gear could be in any of the boats.

[@Soosalah]

Anyone interested in the Cup can travel back in time to the first race in 1895 and see the stark differences then and now. You can see for yourself where the design evolved into what they sail today. I am not alone when stating I prefer the yachts the past to today's power and speed.

[@Mersaul4]

I have no idea of these boats, but as far as I see the main wasn't sheeted out at all before the capsize. Is that not possible in this situation or on these boats? Would it not have helped by decreasing windward heel and keeping the boat upright?

[@newzealandfortrump]

Keep going DEAN ...... UK will win.

[@MrLimeybeans]

Maybe.

[@andrewnielsen3178]

Good. It seems that easing the main is not an option.

[@douglaswilder9286]

NBC always there for the negative news

[@oldhick9047]

Wow, billion dollar SAIL BOAT gets blown over in a "strong wind" .

[@minime453]

ackshually its a 10+ million dollar boat

[@oldhick9047]

@@minime453 I stand corrected

[@markwylam5213]

Every boat I've ever sailed with running backs would cause interference with the main if the leeward one wasn't eased.

[@Lehmann108]

Just a stupid maneuver?

[@erickrankin.7803]

I think the back stays are tight because they don’t need to easy the main that much. If they did ease the main it would have just increased the instability. The solution would have been to either slowly bare away or abandon the foiling maneuver and come to a relatively controlled touch down.

[@Gottenhimfella]

@@Lehmann108 It would have won them the race if they'd nailed it -- and it was eminently possible, they were still in great shape through the most difficult and dangerous phase of the turn, but for some reason the fore and aft trim got out of kilter when they were objectively almost in the clear. Everyone would have been shouting Dean a beer back at base and calling him a steely-eyed killer hero, had the trimmers (mainsail and tailplane) managed to keep the show on the road - I'm almost certain he personally nailed it, as far as helming went. There was definitely not enough twist in the head of the main in response when the s hit the f - possibly they do not have sufficiently proactive controls - it seems that Team NZ have upped the ante again on that, just as they did in Bermuda.

[@Gottenhimfella]

I should also point out a further gaping problem with my answer to Erick, due to forgetfulness of a realisation I'd come to a few days back: by the time it was on the cards that they would capsize, it is somewhat academic to talk of easing the main. The boat was already broken in the landing.

[@benkious55]

nice boat. safety first

[@criqdekuyper9259]

While I understand that the commentators are versed in sailing jargon, perhaps they could sometimes elaborate a bit more for the regular folk watching these events.

[@gavinward5448]

... especially as this is a new racing technology with which even experienced yachtsmen & women may be unfamiliar.

[@mikeh996]

Its already pretty dumbed down

[@boataxe4605]

The wind done blowed the boat over.

[@mikeh996]

@nil nix tbf I've never, ever, been on sailing ship, but I'm my social circle expert, bcos I do my homework, ie Google that sh*t😆😆

[@mikeh996]

@nil nix I remember watching a League game played in the US. 80mins of 🤦 super excited rule explaining. Even the girls(apologies) were "fk sake ok, we'll get!"

[@lawrenceaubert6540]

magick. That’s why.

[@boxhawk5070]

Alright who tied cleated off the main sheet and then dropped it.

[@scottlincoln6286]

Really dumb question BUT how does one up right the vessel....?

[@waynemacdonald757]

its not capsized it a knok down

[@zimbonz]

It is a capsize if they don't get back up.

[@JustinJehle]

So cool

[@vanislerider7311]

Good racing. However, I was surprised that the race was Luna Rosa before they finished the race. Or did I miss something. Doesn't make sense to give the race over before it was finished. What if Luna Rosa failed to finish for whatever reason?

[@vanislerider7311]

@@scotttild Thanks Scott. But that doesn't make sense as the race wasn't called until Luna Rosa was well past AM and close to the finish line.

[@tpiz2448]

Excellent choice dean well done.

[@wibble5676]

🤣😂😜

[@TheDEECEENZ]

Should not be called American Magic. Forget magic. There are real world forces of PHYSICS at play here. With a 500 meter lead at the time, perhaps a less aggressive move would have been in order?

[@steveturansky9031]

American Tragic - finally set to win a race and they f-up and crash the boat. Glad nobody was hurt.

[@elvislives-gl4rv]

I thought it was an AIRBUS stunt and was going to take off into the clouds.

[@norrishude6177]

"American Magic" capsizes, bout say's it all.

[@shanefiddle]

America has been capsizing for years... Thousands of people dead every day... Hopefully the rescue crew that is coming with Biden can get the boat back upright again. VoteOutRacists!

[@9avedon]

Boston Dynamics is working on a replacement crew.

[@griffedbat]

How do you right that without a keel?

[@kateford3853]

11days to fix no Weeleys on boat ❤️👀

[@Vincentschneider007]

What do they mean by the runner did not do what it was suppose to do please. Not a sailor but very interested in the Americas cup racing

[@chrisknight8962]

Good time to get back to real sailing for the next Americas Cup

[@martinpolach6171]

Absolutely....this is not sailing ...it’s more like Star Wars on water....Mega Expensive !...Great spectacle ...but sailing....?....

[@kbrown4ou]

Amen to that!

[@gpsfinancial6988]

Imagine Formula One car racing in speed limited Toyota Corollas. These AC75 boats require all of the sailing skills and tactics of the stodgy old displacement boats, plus a few more. Foiling boats are in the Olympics. There is even a Vintage Yachting Games for all of the outdated Olympic classes. There is plenty of old school sailing to watch (few do), Americas Cup is top level, so should use cutting edge boats.

[@chrisknight8962]

@@gpsfinancial6988 Your opinion , I feel that the skill required for close contact sailing is at the top level. I also think the technology that is used on foiling boats is tremendous. At the same time, my preference for the purist sailors, is for the true yachts, with all the trickery, and cunning needed for one design Yacht racing, rather than zooming around like a F1 cars, with little, or no overtaking, it becomes a bore.

[@mikeh996]

Everything is about the wind and the water! How is that not "real sailing "?

[@carlosspeicywiener7018]

Bold strategy. Let's see if it pays off...

[@marctardif9756]

Airbus had a field day being advertiser of this team.

[@felixcat9318]

The only thing that matters is Crew Safety! I would imagine that the Crew made certain that each one was safely accounted for. Professionalism, practice, preparation and experience will have enabled the Crew to react well to this unexpected event. It appears that they were let down by their boat.

[@wolfharthiphop]

How do they pull that boat back up?

[@donf3877]

Wonderful title. Has nothing to do with why it actually capsized.

[@jakob.k_design]

At 0:16 it obvious, that they turn into the wind instead of out of it, which makes the boat take off and flip after it comes down.

[@christianmani1730]

I don't know the specifics about foiling boats, but I appears to me that they weren't able to de-power the main. The jib looks like it was released and de-powered, but the main looks like it stayed fast for whatever reason. Poor seamanship (unlikely) or equipment malfunction.

[@CaptMike-ce3xi]

Uh, oh. Looks like the Devil wore Prada in that race.

[@ifazer8akathedoctor275]

good one

[@scarvymccargo]

America is Magic No More!

[@Guy-ky9mc]

Sign of the times.

[@ranieosman8569]

glad the boys are safe..sad 4 Dean being a hone boy...its not all over yet

[@debeeriz]

the traitor got his just deserts

[@herculesrockefeller8969]

Showing a Yacht on "Motorsports" on NBC.

[@sharonshaddix3287]

Typical nbc !

[@cjg6364]

Major screwups like this aren't usually the result of just one failure. In this case, it was clearly 2. Failure for whatever reason to release a running backstay no doubt puts the vessel in jeopardy in high winds. But failure to immediately change course in response to the first failure is what brought the vessel down. With strong wind conditions, the helmsman must remain acutely aware of what is happening with the rigging - particularly in a high speed turn. Either lack of communication, failure to observe rigging conditions, or both resulted in a poor response to critical circumstances. There appeared to be enough time to react appropriately with a fast jibe but the person responsible for steering was clearly not up to the task.

[@robinhodgkinson]

They lost steerage due to cavitation around the rudder according to one of the crew. They couldn’t change course. The rudder elevator “falls into a hole”, stern drops, bow rises, at which point they’re heading for the moon with no control. Crash!

[@richardkittle2346]

And thank you captain armchair. When was the last time you sailed at 30 plus knots

[@TheTacktishion]

when was the last time you "Skippered" a sailboat going 40 MPH....?

[@cjg6364]

@@robinhodgkinson Wrong. There were two options when and if the helmsman discovered fouled rigging in the middle of the turn - while the rudder was still planted in the water. He could have steered wide off course more towards the prevailing wind or off course in the other direction with a jibe, to provide an opportunity to address the rigging and carry on. Instead, he maintained the racing line until it was too late - overpowering a stuck mainsail and heeling the boat over until the rudder was hauled out of the water. When a critical piece of equipment fails or there's a failure to operate it, there's no time to think about options. You have to have the experience and instinct to react immediately. This helmsman was either unaware of the rigging problem, didn't react quickly enough, or thought he could "power" his way through. All three possible scenarios point to operator error.

[@cjg6364]

@@richardkittle2346 The principles remain the same whether your flying one of these foilers @ 30 knots or a monohull J boat @ 8 knots. Overpower the sails at your peril.

[@fredcanavan3864]

That’s not a capsize.

[@q.e.d.9112]

Well, come on Mr Yachting Expert, what is it, if not a capsize?

[@steveturansky9031]

Capsize is when the boat goes all the way over I thought (180 degrees). Wouldn't this just be a knock down (and stay down)?

[@robertjwilliams3532]

Most (correction) All of this explanation is lost on me. Hope somewhere I can get an explanation for us fans that just like to see these racing boats (I use the term boat loosely) perform.

[@gav2759]

They keep saying "they need a win". Fact is the don't need a single round robin point to progress, in this ridiculous non-competition.

[@michaeljorgensen790]

I agree. It is only the last two races that count to see who wins the Prada.....but with only three teams it seems that it is a better to compete for the top seed position which then give the top seed the advantage of only having to win the final (0ne race) rather than two races (semi final and final) that that 2nd and 3rd seeded teams would have to win. This keeps it exciting to the spectators. If it is not done this way and one team gets too far ahead then it becomes pointless to complete all the planned races. But I agree that 4 or more teams would have made it more exciting to watch.

[@tenpiloto]

Should be quite embarrassing to the skipper.

[@luckydubeinrc5165]

its magic :)

[@mvcharisma]

Kind of a metaphor for New York really....

[@jeffbryan2591]

They really need to go back to the days of the 12 meters . Those cameras may be fast but they sure look stupid when are flipped over .

[@mgevirtz]

Time to get a ballast keel.

[@phillipgage7356]

Gematria. AirBus. Water. Wreckage. 11 people. Noted.

[@solstar4778]

It happens!

[@tosh2012]

It capsized just like the country it was named after.

[@jonmccauley6490]

Come on guys! Where's your 40ft righting pole?

[@Soosalah]

I miss the America's Cup of olde.

[@donf3877]

@@AntonioPiccolboni Yeah, just like the big unlimited hydro now sounds like a vacuum cleaner, but they still have other classes. Problem is, those are only Detroit V-8's and sound nothing like the old thunder boats. J class isn't really like the old America's Cup boats, it just sort-a is.

[@patrickjoyce6732]

Joshua Slocum,new how important a keel is,when you go to Sea.....

[@hibbiteejibbitee]

symbolic of the current state of the country.

[@johnnyllooddte3415]

where is this

[@mikebelcher8442]

Auckland New Zealand

[@NotAnonymousNo80014]

How is this a motorsport?

[@brooksritchey6483]

I feel badly for this team. Glad everyone is okay. I do wonder what caused the hole in the hull. Any thoughts?

[@carbidegrd1]

Maybe whatever was floating next to it.

[@test868]

Something inside the boat probably became dislodged and caused the damage leading to a hole.

[@bradpaddock1175]

It's thought one of the batteries (27Kg) was dislodged upon impact and crashed through the hull. The hole is about 3x3 feet.

[@MrLimeybeans]

@@carbidegrd1 The only thing floating were the rescue boats. Something substantial broke away and shot across down below to punch thru.

[@harpomarx7777]

The one jerk keeps saying "LURED RUNNER" .. and the closed captions say the same thing. Then the other guy says "lowered runner".

[@vickijo2343]

Yeh i couldnt figure out what he was saying...its leeward runner. Its the American accent,tripped me up.

[@TheUnforgiven69]

He was late tacking and should've trimmed to port way sooner as well.

[@AlessioDan]

PRADA

[@shaungilmartin1505]

Biden had just taken the helm

[@pahanin2480]

Oh my, sad day in history and the 99% of everyone else feels the pain

[@yapandasoftware]

I guess they didn't think that through.

[@rogerlafrance6355]

In this kind of racing, if you not on the edge of Turtle Up, your not in the competition. Its what its all about.