NEW Zhin Talent is PERFECT! (Paladins PTS Gameplay)

[@kyt2137]

Is strange, I feel like this is the first flank talent that encourages team play and playing with your offtank, and we are like on the 5th year of this "offtank and flank play together" play style existing in the game

[@kemonngo3106]

Smoke and dagger??

[@kyt2137]

@@kemonngo3106 I think of smoke and dagger more like a talent that encourages a different play style, like it was meant to be the "skye healer" talent (even tho, yes, nowadays it is a talent that helps you make plays with offtanks)

[@captainphoton1693]

Damn. I love that play style. It's rare to see game where the wild cards that are flanker, have a friend. Flank and off tnak bien bro is the best dynamic XD.

[@KCGamingBuddies]

im a HUGE fan of this talent and where they might take this champion synergy idea in 2025

[@magmanno]

Not gonna lie, I enjoyed old Yomi much more, maybe it was just a flat damage increase but you could play it everywhere, now it's rather a niche talent. Maybe if it was applied by Counter, cause having to waste a movement ability for talent to work isn't really that good.

[@ShinobiLen]

Thats EXACTLY what I was saying.

[@deadwalke9588]

This is going to make Zhin feel much worse than he's felt in a long time since they initially nerfed Guillotine.

[@kokoro3967]

My thoughts too, i guess I kind of understand andrews words on thinking more with zhin…..but i do feel like it wasting your movement makes it lind unreliable in team fights unless your playing a card centered thing solely around using it and getting it back asap, i feel like old yomi was just an overall good bonus and made zhin more reliable as well

[@kokoro3967]

Im wondering what it would be like if igniting could just be caused by your final shot instead?? Or does fhat sound weird or broken, i feel like maybe that makes his third shotore important but i do think it makes it so others have to counter FIGHTING and staying with zhin as you are hit 3 times ignited and pretty much dead With his shots being this big maybe igniting more than 1 could be the play instead of wasting whirl and trying to not get hit right after that unless whirl reset

[@antalito3047]

I miss that you get the visual when you get extra damage similar to when Ying plays Focusing Lens or Fernando plays Scorch. It gives you the visual that you’re doing that extra damage to them. Why is this not a thing for this talent?🤔I also cannot really see when they’re ignited.

[@KinqLegxndary]

Also for example that one meave Talent, also a short dmg buff but it has the indicator

[@rybr3ad]

It is still PTS they might be making sure the talent properly works before adding visuals

[@antalito3047]

@@rybr3adI hope so, otherwise it’s really not clear when you’re getting that extra dmg

[@Exitium696]

From 400>400>850 to 460>460>805 on a condition. I see 3 playstyles for Zhin: Ganker/team fighter in specific team comps, spin 2 win or guillotine spam.

[@falseparadox3838]

I’m glad Yomi is getting a rework. Base damage amps should never be a talent unless its conditional/there’s a drawback

[@Dantelor]

Especially if its the only good choice, or is the reason why the champ functions well. Look at Imani for example. Mana Rift is ok i guess, but Splitting ice doing those extra chip dmges really helps, and honestly should be in base kit too. (and then there's ofc also the abysmal Pyrokinetic or whatever the talent is even called)

[@falseparadox3838]

@ yeah Pyromania, one of the worst talents in the game. It nerfs your damage output by 20%, unless the whole enemy team is right next to eachother. I’ve played the talent many times to try to get value but its just never worth it

[@Redmentoos]

Yes! Finally, we see some interesting synergies again. I really like what they're doing now, more than ever! It gives me hope that a "good" Paladins 2 could happen. Still wishing for killcam and highlight to come back.

[@pv3935]

Fun fact, zhin was perfect even before this update.

[@KinqLegxndary]

Nah yomi was boring and billow talent is still trash

[@pv3935]

@@KinqLegxndary I respect your opinion. For me i actually ONLY play the billow talent and i win 4/5 games with it. Something really bad have to happen for me to not win with it.

[@Shadow-yt7]

And now Bazaar will be the true spin to win 1v5/2v5 I always wanted

[@haysan32]

Best new talent in a long time, when they want to, they actually cook up

[@MustafaAhmed-pt7pc]

What if counter also applied to ignite but if that's somehow overpowered make it so it applies every 2 counters or only 10 percent instead of 15 (if that's somehow op)

[@taurvanath]

Idk. I loved watching your sumo videos back in the day and i deeply wanted it to be a viable strategy. Now its a problem?

[@danielendless]

Nope, not spending my Run Away ability on something this situational It's really Zhover isn't it

[@mirius4665]

I would like it if counter could ignite as well

[@camrendavis6650]

Same. As effective as this talent may be, i prefer self-sustain to extra damage. I was a Billow main before this rework and i will remain one after the launch.

[@mirius4665]

​@@camrendavis6650and billow pairs nicely with veteran too and hp card. If they added ignite on counter as well maybe i would consider it

[@jansolo4628]

Over the Moon, Cat Burglar, Bullet Time for Flanks. Window of Opportunity, Paratrooper, Exaction for Damages.

[@camrendavis6650]

​@@mirius4665Veteran and Rejuvenate. Not a lot of people know it buffs self healing, not just healing output. I run Smolder and use the card that heals for 500 when using Counter. Max Rejuvenate heals me for 650 on with Counter and 780 on Smolder. It makes you harder to kill

[@wovenowl7535]

7:37 damn, I hope Iqunnr finds better employment :(

[@bublyification]

Guys sorry for the question but what is pirates?

[@MrFrye12345]

1:58 look at all of the yellow items lol

[@oddzzyy5649]

they went a sweaty comp and still lost

[@iouplayyy9191]

It's a net nerf for zhin

[@benmoi3390]

great talent now they need to change the gui8llotine for the counter former talent or something else better...

[@sk2279]

Old Yomi was way better!

[@deadwalke9588]

"They finally gave Zhin a talent that's really interesting" granting himself a damage amplification for using a playstyle that has been considered as cheesy and unskilled is NOT interesting gameplay nor an interesting topic. Please stop with these thumbnails and your consistent whining about people playing a certain way in your games.

[@mirius4665]

Should have tried the talent with all characters that can ignite enemies in your team

[@elytrafae]

Thing is, every other champion who can ignite enemies is infinitely worse for this purpose.

[@mirius4665]

​@@elytrafaejust for the memes

[@trailmix1013]

Sweet, I definitely need to try this out and revive the whirl builds long ago created. LOL I know Sure was on Kasumi, but she still seemed a bit busted. I am plugging here again to remove her from the game. I don't care how you try to balance her, she does not belong in Paladins.

[@remembermewhenyourfamous]

I suck how did we lose with pirates I was azaan

[@lllooolll327]

They changed the only talent that didnt need it?

[@mirius4665]

you got it the other way? Yomi was in drastic need of a change as it was a lame dmg amp on his primary fire. Dmg amps should be tied to conditions or be on abilities, not primary fire Drogoz's fussilade is hopefully next on the list and i would like it if it were replaced with the old talent that made his salvo instant

[@camrendavis6650]

Yomi was just a flat damage buff (and a puny one at that), a remnant of the old Yomi. Sure it was effective, but boring. It didn't add anything to his play style

[@Steven-dk4nq]

Good Zhin players destroy me

[@avioro4822]

Andrew giving “that kid at recess who complains when he’s tagged” energy when he threatens to end stream bc “you’re not playing a comp that favors me, specifically” …sad stuff really Spoilers ahead And he ends up winning anyway, so was it really worth getting so pissy about?

[@AylerHathwell]

Bruh he’s completely valid he’s playing with fans in pts not randoms in ranked the other team is playing a very un fun competitive comp in pts like jeez

[@avioro4822]

@ I don’t care how unfun the comp is, people can play what they want and threatening to abuse your power over the people who support you (his FANS in the stream audience) is weird… and he still won, so the man child attitude was especially uncalled for, clearly the game wasn’t impossible to win

[@landxxx1]

@@avioro4822 completly agree and now it happens in many of his videos.

[@elytrafae]

I do NOT look forward to casual next patch . . . Seris buff + Zhin now requiring an ally Fernando to babysit him and give him a damage buff

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

zhin can use his talent solo, you have the option to go with a fernando to have a even bigger uptime on the effect but you can apply it by yourself

[@elytrafae]

@@sebastianaltamirano4991 I know, but I can already foresee the Zhin mains begging for a Fernando because otherwise their damage talent is too risky

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

@@elytrafae with the build used by andro you can have a good amounts of whirls and reduce it cd by a lot, so its not as risky and even if it is then wih the right skill the zhin will know when to whirl to kill or whirl to escape

[@elytrafae]

@@sebastianaltamirano4991 "With the right skill" That's what I fear. Don't get me wrong, the talent would be fun and would fit the game if more developments were added to elemental stuff, but right now it's just . . . scary . . . thinking of the casual experience . . .

[@La_Win69]

Epic

[@mamatula]

beam4hell being cringe as always

[@K1ndaAwkwardGayming]

Bruh they can play what they want

[@aash362]

Every video I see of him has at least 3 minutes of whining lmao

[@suburbanoctopus4517]

My man is a streamer, he has to comment on the gameplay and talk 100% of the time. Sometimes he’s not gonna be entirely positive about everything.

[@suburbanoctopus4517]

@@Snow-q8g What did he even say that was that negative? Complaining about the sweaty three tank enemy comp? Cause that’s all I could find and it was like 2, 3 comments at most.

[@MustafaAhmed-pt7pc]

@@suburbanoctopus4517 yea ur valid on that tbh

[@Viktoredits4fun]

Not gonna lie i think this rework sucks, why trade a guaranteed damage buff for a very situational damage buff, thats stupid

[@DukeofJukes293]

Just bring back guillotine, his ult is trash

[@rybr3ad]

Guillotine is still one of his talents tho I'm confused what your asking

[@doneson1717]

1st Mr chicken

[@TheDynaStonks]

no one cares

[@sebastianaltamirano4991]

@@TheDynaStonks i care

[@doneson1717]

@@TheDynaStonks you clearly did lol