NEW Zipp 353 NSW First Look | Raising The Bar On Performance?

[@gcn]

What do you think about the new Zipp 353 NSW wheels? Let us know in the comments below!

[@philipprudenciano8097]

Super cool, its an advantage because you can ride anywhere using those wheels ❤

[@maartends6051]

It even looks expensive

[@fergusdenoon1255]

How does a "lifetime warranty" work? We all know that's a scam, right?

[@jigglypuff4227]

Too expensive :(

[@torpedyellow]

@@fergusdenoon1255 It's the lifetime of the wheels. When they fail the lifetime is over.🤣

[@PaulingtonGoose]

That rotating transition shot at the beginning with pace modulation in time with the beat 👌😫 Sublime filmmaking. Props to the film/editing folks!

[@Kingjay814]

Hi good people. Since your old 303's obselete and massively overweight I'll carry that burden for for you. Feel free to send them my way.

[@ElonMuckX]

Watch out, GCN Presenters, Si is up to three push-ups, last I heard!! #sunsoutgunsout

[@derekbiggerstaff]

"I've taken Zipp at their word." You're a marketing man's dream.

[@williamaylmer2194]

He is a marketing man, the essence of a market-maker for that wheelset. Why do you think Zipp give them the kit for keeps? I'd say that presentation warrants a set for all the GCN presenters to be fair to Si.

[@simon7719]

This is essentially (if not entirely) an ad, to be fair.

[@datdudeinred]

@@simon7719 didn't you see the thumbnail? They clearly mentions AD on top right corner. So basically you are correct. & almost everyone should know that. But this is probably almost true video despite that fact. As his kom wasn't a lie you can see it on his face. & apart from the techy bits most of the things are true but then again what more can you expect from a wheelset that costs $4k

[@simon7719]

@@datdudeinred in fact I didn't see that. I expect the inconspicuous text saying so isn't an accident. The only reason to buy those wheels is that they're among the top tech-wise. So it's telling that you say "it's true except for the techy bits" :)

[@JayLato]

Weight specific observation: They are super lightweight, but you have to use heavier tubeless tires, sealant, and valve. The total weight compared to a similar depth wheelset such as the Hunt 44UD running 28mm Pirelli PZero race clinchers and supersonic inner tubes comes out to a total weight savings of only 27g,not 143g savings, at 2x the price. This was calculated with the lightest compatible, non TT tubeless tires the corsa g 2.0

[@mattszrejter6785]

I really liked the intro location. The mossy ruins looked so cool.

[@VladMan97]

The camera quality on this video is amazing!

[@MrDazP1adv3ntures]

Simon always delivers a professional review and a well presented production on the GCN show, the wheels were just part of what this team can deliver week after week, which is just a high quality and well edited showcase for the keen cyclist. You guys have this show dialled in people !

[@vegyburger4588]

"Review"🤔

[@suxcesss]

That's not a review, it's a paid advertisement.

[@rmstucky]

Si's breathing really added some depth to the music track during the climb!

[@stephenboshears4832]

I found the calculator a few months ago and took the the tire pressure calculators advice, only to find that it fixed my back ache on longer rides, so much so that I actually lowered and lengthened my position by 17mm and 13mm respectively and still have no issues.

[@damianward8138]

Those Zipp 353s, that orange Orbea and the orange dmts...👌🔥

[@amarmangaonkar7682]

Few months ago I commented that GCN should use ooyy music or epidemic sounds. Thanks for listening. The first shot was amazing, combined with my fav. ooyy song. Keep up great work.

[@robbchastain3036]

Congrats on the KOM, Si, and that warranty does soften the sticker shock, really nice that they offer that and I experienced a good deal like that when I bent a Skyway Tuff-Wheel in '79 when I was jumping my CYC Stormer, ground pounding it without a landing ramp. And Skyway was true to their word about replacement, I received a new one in no time.

[@colincanyon2519]

Great story fella, takes me back, them skyways were the thing to have back then, my parents couldn't afford to buy me a set god bless them!

[@robbchastain3036]

@@colincanyon2519 Thanks for your recollection, Colin, and yeah, it was the dawn of a new era, mail-order BMX bikes with Skyway wheels and it was an incredible moment, all the BMX tech suddenly being unleashed for kids who only wanted to go fast and fly high. And I was fortunate to have an after-school job in high school in Frankfurt, West Germany and I bought that CYC Stormer through a little ad in Dirt Bike magazine, which I happily bought every single month, along with all the other motorcycle magazines. And, incredible to think about now, but at the same time I also owned a '73 250cc Maico motocross motorcycle, the one known for its coffin tank. I bought it from a classmate for $200 bucks and those were, as the say, the days. :)

[@colincanyon2519]

Like my dear old dad used to say, "they all go forward my son!" 😎

[@OFFSHOREDOUG]

Some better than others though.

[@colincanyon2519]

@@OFFSHOREDOUG Enough to justify all that cash?? 🤔

[@OFFSHOREDOUG]

@@colincanyon2519 depends how much cash you have and the where you place your responsibilities.

[@colincanyon2519]

@@OFFSHOREDOUG Are you going to purchase a set of these wheels?

[@OFFSHOREDOUG]

@@colincanyon2519 nope. I will stick with my bontrager. Still use clinchers and they also have a higher load ability. New rsl 51s look like my next wheels.

[@MrTOON]

love how si matched his shoes with his bike 😂

[@cyclenutter2715]

Often taken for granted but the filming and editing in this is superb 👌

[@francisraveneau1294]

This bike is sick - the wheels, groupset, colour, all of it! Need one, want one!!

[@adityanathanael]

The video team needs a raise for upping the ante 🤙

[@martinhoppe9511]

Si's shoes are matching to the colour of the frame. Great!! I nearly forgott to look at the wheels!

[@smallhatshatethetruth7933]

Damn that effort was so hard, even Si's helmet was sweating!!!

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

I have a friend that was involved in the great dog walker/cyclist war of Riverside Park in NYC. I’ve been told I’m okay because I’m not one of those cyclists whose outfit matches their bike. I am 100% showing her this bike/shoe combo to see her reaction.

[@Jeppelelle]

The war has escalated here in Sweden too, apparently it's trendy to walk to the right of the bikelane while the dog walks on the left side of the bikelane; with a leash between them, the season has just begun & i've heard quite a lot of amusing dog walker/cyclist pleasantry exchanges already 😂 I don't know what it is that turns adults into preschool insults; vomit machines :D

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@Jeppelelle it’s international, huh? Good to know.

[@sethgriffiths6539]

Si's total quality of delivery is something to behold.

[@jadsru1]

Those DMT shoes look super sleek. I'm getting myself a pair! Thanks Si.

[@aarondcmedia9585]

Kudos to your video editor - that spin transition (0:39) was mint. Nice wheels.

[@NihilisticHedonism]

SI - the man, the myth, the legend!

[@1Qko]

Si si getting better on making those videos, kudos for him.

[@chrisjohnstone6164]

.. definitely have felt the benefits, which I was initially sceptical, but quickly became a convert on my new Roval Rapide CL's .. so now looking and listening out for new wheel technology.. yes these sound awesome and I'd love to try ..

[@felixshore7947]

Loads of wild garlic where your riding, get picking!

[@gcn]

Plenty of it!

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

But no goth kids...wonder why?

[@urbanjungle9600]

@@Kimberly_Sparkles sublime comment

[@memesaregreat8815]

@@gcn i want to ask you why my fingers joints hurt sometimes after riding for long time is it because i when i pull my hands vhen im driving up hill also i drive regular bike with flat handle and than it kicks my with vibrations from gravel road , but i dont get this efect with roadbike with your handle bars because i use legs for suspension and i change arm posicions on handle aloot specialy on gravel roads (i have +6holding posicions ) also if thats the case do those gloves help to slove this problem because i never used them in my 6 years of road bike riding. also sory for bad english because its my sesond language

[@LoneZZZ10]

I will sell my bike to buy this wheels..

[@colincanyon2519]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Malficion]

Lol... Nope, you'll only be able to afford the front and be on a 2022 waitlist

[@lewiscassidy1793]

There's myth selling bladder might get you a bike and wheels 🤣

[@nationsnumber1chump]

Im getting these for gravel! So Badass!!

[@thiagomiguel5473]

Beautiful bike 😍

[@spotterstew]

Half this film is about the wheels, the other half is all about the quality of the film making and presenting 💯

[@gcn]

glad you enjoyed it!

[@ulyhappy]

Indeed. Waiting for minimum of 4k, though!

[@TheNicolls]

I really appreciate the colour coordination with bike and shoe

[@urbanjungle9600]

Great presentation Si - you always do a great job of making the science (and marketing speak) understandable

[@tccycling]

Please give us an Enve 3.4 AR vs Zipp 353 video!

[@dh9517]

Loving the shoe/bike colour coordination Si 👍🏻

[@obikedog]

Love those wheels. Also, fwiw - I had already started running 80psi in my tubs, down from 100 earlier this year. The SRAM calc said I should use 67/72. It certainly didn't feel fast but I just blew out my matched ride average speed by 1mph - on a very blustery day with headwinds all the way.

[@jw3638]

I got Manon in fight between the presenters for those wheelsets

[@ElonMuckX]

"Your Finished, Richardson"

[@keithmccallum1054]

Nice wheels, nice bike and matching shoes!!

[@gcn]

Matchy matchy!

[@geoffbuck6865]

Red jersey, orange shoes ? NNOOO 😫

[@no-dk5wz]

So cool that it can be used as gravel

[@amfromch]

This Wheels have a really great look, like it very much. Have the Roval CLX50 with Ceramic Bearings on mine, next Wheels are this ZIPP i think :-)

[@scottwatson7844]

£3200 is pretty much what my bike cost.... shame he never mentioned the price earlier in the video.

[@yourpassenger]

"In association with Zipp" is your answer.

[@HiopX]

I think it's about 6 times the value of my bike XD

[@jadsru1]

It's a Zipp wheel ! It's like looking at Lamborghini and wondering how much it cost. Plus GCN and Si are showcasing and reviewing the product. They have nothing to do with the price.

[@MsPietpaaltjes]

Only morons buy these wheels

[@COYSMike]

I shall look forward to buying these as soon as I can...in Zwift!

[@KenSmith-bv4si]

One thing I've noticed is , weather it's Zipp or Sram that's the featured product you always see the other on the bike the presenter is riding. I have Sram Force and I'm digging them wheels.

[@loneoceans]

The spinning transition is 🔥, great job to the production / behind-the-scenes team 👍

[@mathieuwaddell5440]

Would buy them but wayyy out of my budget.. I will stick with my brand new 303s :)

[@garagesale5948]

Orange you glad your shoes match the bike, next you will have to get a matching handbag

[@bubblesezblonde]

That is so bad. Double pun points!

[@gamingaccount4935]

Discbrake means you don't need to spending much money on branded carbon wheels to prevent it failure like the rimbrake models. I think it's better to buy chinese brand rims (farsports/yoeleo) + good hubs (ck/240s). Rim shape and strength is easy to imitate just with a little weight penalty.

[@felixkloss5667]

The DMT shoes are a nice combo!!!

[@GerardvanReekum]

So if I understand you well (from 12:10 to 12:50), you recommend to invest only in small step improvements or you won't be able to afford the next renewal of that great feeling too soon?

[@zukzworld]

That's a beautiful place where you ride and shoot!

[@Michail_Ivanov]

I do enjoy each and every video you guys making!! Awesome!! Now a little bit off topic... I think the camera-men should switch from riding the gasoline powered "scooter" to something e-powered. Less background noise should make your content even better :) Just my thoughts...

[@colinwilliams9290]

If Andrew Feather gets wind of that KOM he’ll be there like a shot😂, that Orbea is stunning.

[@chriswatson2769]

They are pretty sweet but at 4k for a set....way out of most peoples budget

[@christoph7797]

What do you think about the pzero tyres? In wich size you have ridden them? Thanks

[@chuckelsewhere]

Got to love Tintern!

[@brianbrowne206]

So as a 'paid promotion' and 'in association with' does that mean that this should be taken as just an advert? Is it marketing material in a sort of pseudo review format? I guess in answer to your question, i'll look out for Leutscher's view or Peak Torque's view or even Hambini's view before knowing what I think about them.

[@mx2000]

GCN doesn’t really do reviews. They present things.

[@zwamman]

Go to hambini's rim aero testing to find out how good the NSW sawtooth profile performs. spoiler alert: Zipp's core business these days is marketing

[@jasonmcgrody9472]

Yes, it's basically an ad. But it keeps the lights on (which we all like) and it introduces you to stuff you might be unaware of. It's marketing material but vastly better presented than what most places do. I just bought the new Aeolus RSL 51 wheels and most websites that "reviewed" them did nothing more than regurgitate Trek's marketing material word-for-word. At least GCN tries to make things interesting, which I greatly appreciate.

[@tfj100]

On the positive side, at least they tell you. Plenty of stories in Australia are fully funded and there seems to be no obligation for them to tell you about it, hopefully you have better regulation in the UK

[@petefarrell234]

Si: I’m tougher than I look Viewers: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@joelecho]

I'd like to be the first to congratulate Manon on her new set of Zipp 353s!

[@benwoodhouse8202]

Wanted to ride this climb after seeing your strava, not now after seeing the road surface 😂

[@andy009m]

Already like a movie level!

[@pittmang_unofficial]

If you're going for KOMs with new tech by default you should go for one of Ollie Bridgewood's KOMs

[@charliewhelan9488]

Bonus if you sandbag his wheel for the first half of the segment and then, of course, drop him

[@trstreet4727]

I'm mainly here for that orange Orca (and Si's matching shoes??!)

[@Timtimzi]

Princeton Carbonworks actually came out with the shallower depth whale fin rims first this time around... Although it's debatable how long the company can get away with having such a similar design for a fraction of the cost zipp/sram charges. If I didn't have a sponsor, I'd be more incentivised to buy the princetons instead.

[@jamesturner9858]

Do these rims have a maximum rider weight?

[@mattburkey8393]

Wonder if they'll mention the price. 13:06 CRIKEY Well I'm under the weight limit for them at least....

[@brendonsmith5029]

Great a Advise on tyre pressure. I dropped 10psi and it felt great. Do tyres gain pressure when riding due to the heat.?

[@steffenandersensahl9443]

Simon Yates Richardson taking the KOM there :-)

[@AveryAbbott]

Also worth mentioning that not ALL tubeless tires can be used with hookless rims.

[@williamaylmer2194]

Nice wheelset but excuse me while I wipe away the tears. I'll collect my first wheelset upgrade on Friday and can't wait to see if they make any difference. I found a used pair of Fulcrum Racing 3 DB with good rubber and Shimano 105 cassette for €425 to replace PR2 stock wheelset on my new Giant.

[@sercheese]

Hello, which length of the valve is it? 60 mm or 80 mm?

[@andrewgavin1490]

Any thoughts on how much different/better these ride/feel than the 303 firecrests?

[@joshdicuangco4463]

Can you use this wheels on a gravel bike? I really like the look of it

[@CloudSpirals]

Yes

[@bennetthasty7886]

So if my used Salsa Vaya was only $800 is spending $4k on wheels a good idea 💡 value wise?

[@j.j.thomas9569]

How long do you think it will be before they release an update to the 454 NSW's. Speculation on weight for those rims would be ~1350-1400 which would be 200g+ lighter than the current 454's

[@Abbonent1]

I don't know which category this should be in, gcn tech or gcn does science or anywhere else. But it would be very interesting to see a comparison of comfort achieved with different rim materials on a carbon/aluminium frame. Or even steel. So the question being: is it worth having a carbon frame but aluminium wheels or is it better/the same/worse to have an aluminium frame with carbon wheels? Many thanks, I really enjoy the videos!!

[@andrewschietzsch5398]

Comfort is 95% from your tires and seatpost flex. Carbon wheels will make you faster than a carbon frame, but that’s due to aerodynamic gains.

[@steveyeats5541]

How do they compare to something like Lightweight Wegweiser Evos which are also superstrong, very light, rated ok for gravel and have 120kg weight limit but carbon spokes and hub, smaller inside rim width and slightly more expensive. Interested to hear your opinion, cheers

[@johnmute6865]

How about making videos for equipment relative to the average rider?

[@stevecooper7038]

Well said that man!

[@Jonislol]

These are well out of my budget but would still rather watch a video about the best stuff than the average stuff. What gets views? The best and/or the worst 😅

[@andymitchell2146]

This is a paid advert. I guess the guys that make affordable gear don't have the same advertising budget.

[@dudefella420]

@@andymitchell2146 getting people to put their top end wheels on top end bikes is definitely marketing the brand to people looking for more affordable wheelsets. Although zipp doesn’t sell anything cheap.

[@jasonmcgrody9472]

There's an entire GCN Tech channel for that kind of stuff. This is a paid video so GCN can keep the lights on.

[@eddienoel1149]

Loving Si bike..does it come in 5’4” short fat man size?

[@ericcoxtcu8037]

Question on hookless rims - I'm running P Zero Race TLRs on my FFWD RYOT 55 wheels (they have hooked rims). On the packaging, in bold letters it says "don't use with hookless rims." Do you find that they work ok on hookless rims?

[@aliancemd]

Ok, the wheels are called “353 NSW”, I thought the first look is “Not Safe for Work”.

[@yisraels4555]

More like not safe for home. If I bring a set home it definitely won't be safe for me!

[@thinksimon]

No, it stands for "Not Safe for Wallet"

[@franz1c]

Ha ha ha, it's "NSW" not the usual "NSFW". Could stand for "New Secret Weapon". 😜 "NSW" stands for Nest Speed Weaponry. The 'Nest' was the nickname given to the engineer's lab deep in the bowels of Zipp's factory and "NSW" is the stuff they lavish every advantage on.

[@jasonmcgrody9472]

I thought "Navy Special Warfare"

[@nelleyvargas3759]

zipp wheelset will always be durable. 💪👌

[@VedranCro]

And what about "rotating weight doesn't matter" video from few weeks ago

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

Sponsor physics.

[@miauwg1233]

It does matter though, it only doesn't matter more than weight savings on other parts of the bike

[@stijnloos4659]

On the flat rolling weight doesn’t matter. Uphill, the weight does matter rolling or not rolling weight doesn’t matter it’s just the total weight.

[@alexflorance1111]

I don't see why these are much better than the 303s or firecrest apart from looking weird. Get the 303s and spend the excess on an electronic groupset, another bike or even better, a cycle holiday once restrictions are eased

[@thebelly925]

So, they’re Roval Terra CLX, but with hookless rims? (Except heavier?)

[@theantichrome9842]

Compatible with GP5000 TL?

[@ppham]

No, it says in the tire not to use with hookless wheels

[@josephabraha5779]

I would like these wheels but where can I find the cheapest pair? I live in Sweden and these cost like 3000 Euro here in Sweden.

[@glharlor]

I'd love to get a set of carbon wheels but the wheel flex is just too much as a 95kg rider. Need more spokes and I'd pull the trigger.

[@HuskyKyurem]

No rim brake version?

[@jeffreylee5770]

Will wheels like these have any impact on less expensive wheel technology for everyday commuters? I like hearing about high-end technology advances, but I would like to see more things that impact more ordinary riders.

[@SocialHgrenade]

Need more content for upgrades for low to mid end budgets

[@Czoken]

I'm loving those rims Now I have aluminum 40mm deep wheels, but they're pretty heavy and don't handle crosswinds that well. Those look neat for my canyon endurace bike

[@anyssen]

Nice, matching shoes...!!!

[@Stormbringer1984y]

Is there rim version?

[@LRF49]

Those wheels look great. Too bad I'm a peasant. Watching this on GCN's channel, is as close as I will ever get to owning a pair.

[@davidfort5801]

I am in love 😍 these look so great and the lifetime make them almost good value well they will be when I try and tell the wife 😂😂

[@Jules.C.]

8:44 of course the are not weight weenie wheels they are disc brake wheels.

[@bwidharta]

So all the same technologies that you can find on a 5 years old Enve ses ar wheelset at a more higher price ?

[@jackbenzie545]

Nice Orange shoes si

[@tfj100]

Nice e-bike for the record attempt ;-)