Newark Ohio Fire Department Fatal House Fire Dash Cam Video

On August 30, 2018 at 0312 hours Newark Fire Department was dispatched to 176 E. Channel Street for a report of a house fire. NFD responded with 2 engines, 2 ladders, 2 medics and a battalion chief for a total strength of 16. Ladder-2 was the first unit to arrive and found a 2-story house that was fully involved. There were also live power lines down in the street in front of the house. There were multiple exposure threatened with one exposure building that was on fire.
Ladder-2 pulled a 2.5 inch hose line and covered the bravo exposure. A second 2.5 inch hose was put into operation to attack the fire. Two additional lines were pulled to help cover exposures and attack the fire in a defensive mode.
The structure collapse prior to the fire being knocked down. After the fire was extinguished equipment was brought to the scene to assist in moving debris in an effort to complete a search. Investigators discovered a body during this search and transported it to the coroner's office to determine victim identification and to conduct an autopsy.
From the news abc6onyourside.com/news/local...
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[@needsmoreboosters4264]

It's always sad to see a loss of life in a fire. My condolences go out to the family, and my thanks to your department. There was nothing that could have been done to save the victim, but you did a great job protecting the exposures and keeping everyone else safe.

[@FloozieOne]

Too bad for that house. The before-fire picture made me go awww. It was such a neat and friendly-looking house; old and a bit worn but not shabby. The kind that welcomes you home with peaceful quite and doesn't try to show off.

[@taylormartin90]

Chief Decker, first of condolences and prayers to the family in this tragedy. Secondly you never cease to amaze and impress me with your and your departments expertise and discipline. A good leader knows how to deploys his assets in order to get the job done efficiently , a great leader is not afraid to "get his hands durt" when needed. You sir are a great leader and an asset to the department.

[@randywatkins6899]

VERY WELL STATED...................."nuff said"!!

[@brettsteele7386]

17:22 start to contained, great job as usual Chief Decker. You have a great team. Don't take this the wrong way, I don't want more houses to burn down, but I would like to see video's more often from you.

[@commandvisionfire]

Thank you.

[@danielheartsill4269]

Newark Ohio should be very proud of their fire department. Watching many fire videos I see Newark among the very best. Homeowners insurance is probably less expensive in Newark because of the fire department. Great job every one, good luck and stay safe.

[@geoffgaudet2545]

Thanks, Chief Decker, for these videos. I’m a volunteer firefigher in a rural hall. I recently completed one (of several up to this point) IC courses, but of course without much real experience it’s hard to develop good command skills. Our call volume is fairly low, and so I watch your videos as a good taste of “how it should be done” (and although I’ve only been IC a few times to date, I’ve come to realize how hard the job really is-hardest thing I’ve done in the fire service so far-and I know I’ll probably never be as calm and in-control as you are on scene, but I will use your example). This video looks like one of our scenes; we get few fires, but when we do, it’s not uncommon for them to be fully involved upon arrival. Add in poor access and no hydrants (a rural area in the mountains), and yeah, we can’t always get water on the fire as soon as we’d like to. To date, though, no fatalities (at least, none at residential fires).

[@doreenblatz2440]

Thank You Mr. Decker for another excellent video.

[@ZackJenkins]

As a new firefighter I really appreciate, and learn from these videos. I am literally more helpful to my team because I have learned so much from watching this channel.

[@user-or1lu3ku3m]

That downed power line is providing quite the light show, super dangerous. Great work guys

[@davidglaum2538]

For the amount of fire and the size of an all wood building you had it knocked down in excellent time. Good job sir.

[@markwillcox720]

Oh Boy, thanks Chief Decker, it's like a early Christmas gift! I'm fixing to watch the best fire videos around!👨‍🚒

[@courtsNsession]

The firefighter chopping down the fence, You are a better man than I am. I would have thrown the Chief my helmet, yelled "you're it"!! and plowed him right through it. hahaha Great work fighters!! My heart felt condolences go to the family.

[@cp-jc2784]

Sitting on spark watch tonight after a residential structure fire, your videos are a great way of staying awake at 0400. Very good communication between you and your men. Top notch command my friend.

[@adelefarough5123]

Mr Happy: sorry for the stupid question, but what is spark watch?

[@excaliburflowerhorn8717]

When you stay on scene I case the fire resparks

[@bill330]

Great video Chief. Sorry for the outcome after knock down. Thoughts and prayers to the victims family

[@dustybowers4177]

I want to say thank you for serving newark ohio, i was born and raised in this city, i have been thinking of becoming a fire fighter/medic

[@billnicholson7639]

Chief Decker - thank you for another informative post. Question: following a call, do fire chiefs do a debrief with the firefighters on scene to Highlight good practices / what worked well as well as areas for improvement? If so what does a debrief look like.

[@Lydirius]

Not sure how I missed this video Chief. Great job on this one as well, like always. 👍 Also, pretty quick knock down considering all elements involved.

[@seanwatson2121]

You have the best video's. I don't how firefighters do it but you Guys are heroes. Thanks

[@lindabarker2175]

Condolences to the family who lost a member, once again your videos are awesome, your should be proud of your team they are a asset to your fire station, what people seem to forget is that you put your lifes at risk to help those in need, xx

[@randywatkins6899]

AGREE.......................100%

[@SirDrax101]

I'm honestly very glad I came across the channel man! I used to fight structure fires in Arizona.. now I'm wildlands with CalFire. But I still help fellow firefighters with structures even when I'm not with that dept or state lol. Keep up the great work and keeping everyone as safe as possible

[@commandvisionfire]

Very cool. I was on the Ohio Wildfire team for a couple of years. I spent 3 weeks in Montana doing fire attack, and 3 weeks Daytona assigned to and engine doing exposure protection. Both was an awesome experience.

[@SirDrax101]

@@commandvisionfire if I'm ever in the Newark ohio area and there's a fire just look for a blue excursion California tags

[@randywatkins6899]

Chief Decker,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,You can LEANR MUCH,fromk THIS TMAN.................KUDOS Chief Decker!

[@______-id5ud]

Strong work brothers! Not much you could have done with that one. Prayers for the family that lost a loved one...

[@craft_yplanning1012]

I really appreciate this chief and his abilities. He is calm and leads his men well. I have been binge watching their videos last couple of days and have enjoyed them and what I have learned from them

[@randywatkins6899]

You canj find.."NO BETTER".....................saysit,.ALL !@!!

[@udizzy1969]

Great work David, You are a Team Leader and Team Player for sure, Love how fast your team works together to knock them down as fast as you can, So for the Loss, RiP. Thank you David. Cheers The Dizzy One.

[@CoTreyLoZ]

You do good work yourself, UDizzy!!

[@randywatkins6899]

@@CoTreyLoZ .DIZZY.......My HERO!

[@johnmarston459]

Great job Chief Decker as always cool calm and collected throughout the whole scene. Are you guys hiring? I have my fire 2 and EMT card

[@BradDubuque]

Was there an explosion which caused the fire? Debris scattered throughout the yard and on the other side of the fence leads me to believe something blew out.

[@craigm8765]

Another Great Video Dave. Excellent knock down and sad a person lost their life.

[@elizabethcherry920]

From the start of video, I looked to be an arson job, that house was to well involved. Its a Shame may the person who died rest in peace and my condolences goes to the deceased family. Great work putting out that inferno

[@royals24u]

rescue 51??? ... that made me laugh ... only those who grow up in the 70's will laugh ..... also ... Chief Decker ... you and your crew are A1

[@kd5you1]

They must have responded in between episodes.

[@lindanwfirefighter4973]

Johnny and Gage! My childhood hero’s! Now I do what they did! Time rolls on.

[@joshuabrownson658]

@@lindanwfirefighter4973 Johnny GAGE and Roy DESOTO lol but I knew what you were saying! LOL

[@andyhamilton8940]

KMG365

[@kevinswinyer3176]

@@lindanwfirefighter4973 Johnny and Gage were the same... The Squad 51 of Emergency team was Johnny Gage, and Roy DeSoto.

[@user-pz9fs4yi2e]

My prayers and love out to that person and family.

[@TheTruex56]

Your videos are amazing

[@gusbailey68]

Chief, as others have said, good work by you and your crews; hate it had such a head start on y'all; condolences to the family of the deceased.

[@robjames623]

Hi just subscribed to your channel from the UK.

[@matthewblair2332]

another great job by Decker and the ff i've learned a lot from these videos. I am a ff in nc and I always look at our videos to see what we could have done better

[@NAVYMEDIC610]

Excellent work Chief and from your NFD fire crews. Thanks for sharing your videos. I have 3 questions for you pertaining to first-round ops. 1) Do you appoint a Capt. or Lt. to be Safety Officer on every structure fire? 2) When your fire crew o r crews are doing interior attack who do you assign the task of RIT (Rapid Intervention Team)? My first RIT certificate training courses were in 1998 & 1999. We had to pass the courses before being assigned to RIT in PA. I 3) How often do your firefighters from Fire Chief down to Firefighter practice or train on Calling a Mayday & practice different senario's in firefighter extracation, breaching an interior of exterior as related to Mayday. I will post a video of RIT team training that was developed by Pittsburgh PA Fire instructors on FIT team senario. I have taken these challenging training classes several times from the PGH Fire Academy instructors and they are extremely important and worth the effort. I took the IAFF Calling the Mayday training course. They and NFPA recommend Mayday training few times a year.

[@kimberlyboysza4954]

My condolences to the family of the victim. I just wanted to ask how the crew is doing? It is so hard when you have a fatal fire.

[@markp9057]

Glad to see they abandoned the 1 3/4" and went to the 2.5" as the initial attack. Big fire=big water. Deck gun would have been good if there was one available.

[@commandvisionfire]

You're right a deck gun would have worked great. Unfortunately this was on a dead-end street and Ladder-2 (a mid-mount quint) didn't have a one. So we went with our next best.

[@Quadflash]

It has to be frustrating to work a fire that's completely involved on arrival. Just surround and drown, then long overhaul.

[@Bigdogzq]

Really interesting in fires how it seems like either water takes care of it right away, or it hardly has any affect.

[@kylegraham6034]

Thanks kindly for your posts. I’m really enjoying watching the process of how you and your team work through these events in such a calm and controlled manner. Out of curiosity what did you mean my a “Red X” building? My mind went to chemical storage, suspected drug houses etc...

[@commandvisionfire]

A red x house is a house that has been deemed unsafe for interior fire attack, usually due to structural issues.

[@FloozieOne]

@@commandvisionfire Thank you for that info. I was wondering the same thing.

[@JohnnyTorontoEh]

Hi Chief! Just finding this one in my feed that I haven't seen before. I notice that Channel 6 was using your dashcam video in their report. Do you supply this voluntarily or is this property of your dept they give to news stations? Great command by the way. Hard to save a soul or the building when it was so far gone.

[@carlself1485]

I LOVE watching firefighters do their work. One thing I wish was that more video descriptions would tell the cause of the fires that I see. Cuz NO pun intended, but it always sparks my interest as to what caused the fires. But anyways nice quick knock down on this fire. It's truely sad that someone didn't survive. Fatal fires are sad indeed. Material things can be replaced, but life can't.

[@commandvisionfire]

Let me see what I can find out for you.

[@carlself1485]

@@commandvisionfire thanks

[@Big.Ron1]

I have a question relating to the power line. How close do you get to it, and what about water running away from the structure and getting to the power line? Wouldn't that make the whole area around the structure energized, or would that make a good enough ground to blow the power line fuse and shut off power?

[@mxslick50]

You stay as far away as possible. Minimum distance at 240 volts is three feet according to some power companies. The distance increases with higher voltages. The water will get energized, but the voltage and current drop exponentially the further you get away from the wire contact point. In general, at the 240 volts from that downed line, about 10 feet would be relatively safe even if under water. If one of the primary (7,200 or higher) voltage lines goes down, the safe distance is a lot further away, at least 75-100 feet or more. Most utilities power fuses are severely overrated on purpose, to avoid nuisance fuse blows. The average transformer's fuse will only blow when the transformer shorts out internally, which rarely happens with an arcing secondary line as shown in the video. (To the fuse and transformer, an arcing line just looks like a very erratic large load.) Now the fuses and breakers in your home are different, they are designed to protect the wire from excessive heating which can start a fire, so they trip (or blow) at levels well within the safe capacity of the wire. (I won't give out specific numbers, but the wire used in a home can actually carry more amps than it is protected at, but it will generate enough heat at that current to be hazardous inside of walls.)

[@bobhelman1164]

David you need to show the f.d.n.y. how to put fires out. They have all that man power and a couple hoses going. If a power ladder cant do it it won't get done. You are a great leader

[@kathyannknight9661]

Sorry for the loss of life but I love the video it has the 2 things I like fire and lightning Keep up the great work!!

[@gregggoss2210]

Sir, is there a chance you could do a follow-up when you get more information about the cause. Interested in finding out more.

[@commandvisionfire]

Yes, I will try to do that.

[@junkman8742]

@@commandvisionfire What was it.? Did the power line fall after the fire started?

[@djsmexyy]

Good Work Guys with what looks liked like a Huge Jump of the fire, but knockdown was great and you all had your hands busy, keep safe and god bless.

[@derrickguffey4775]

For me these videos are so informative. Just seeing how the blaze I'd dealt with and how diverse the tactics used. But honestly fires freak me out after nearly being killed by a gas stove explosion at about 4-5. And several decades later my whole apartment building being on the verge of blowing up in Northlake IL and winding up with Co poisoning and hospitalized. I just get rather curious as to the causes of the tragic fires

[@lenjsr]

Chief as always a great job Have you ever considered adding a helmet cam to you gear

[@19Dennis53]

Another outstanding job by Chief Decker along with an excellent video. It would have been nice to have a neighbor with a pick up truck just run into those fences or a winch. It would have been less of a pain and much quicker! I feel sorry for the FF busting his buns there. LOL

[@OklahomaEmergency]

I love how you showed up on scene like “Yeah dispatch, I’m on scene, there’s a house fire, no biggie.” I’d be like the Ghostbusters when they got their first call, “DISPATCH, WE GOT ONE!!!” Too bad to hear about the Sig-30. Keep up the good work and stay safe.

[@jenniferwills3095]

I have a question from a civilian standpoint. Do fireman have to wait for power lines to be turned off by the power company before water hoses are used on the property during a fully engaged house fire?

[@tomoakhill8825]

No the firemen do not wait of the power lines to be turned off. At 5:05, by the tree, they start hosing the house with massive amounts of water. To the right side of the scene you see the white flashes of the downed power line. These bright flashes are caused when the power flows into the ground at such a rate it melts the metal in the wire, causing an arc of electricity in the air. The arc fails in a shower of molten metal sparks, and the process repeats.

[@glennhuber4975]

Chief decker, why do you use your clear as last communication instead of received or 10-4? Just curious! Ty

[@komitadjie]

Very late and a dumb question - why was Ladder 1's deck gun not being employed? I mean, I'm making the assumption that it is fitted with one, of course. Water supply issue, where using it would starve the lines in use?

[@549BR]

Didn't seem like the normal hustle of the Newark department. At least three or four minutes spent trying to organize a water flow. Maybe being in the middle of the night was a contributing factor. I do appreciate the videos being made available to the public. Thanks Chief Decker.

[@commandvisionfire]

There is more to the story than what you see. They were pulling lines off both sides of the truck and trying to decide which exposure was taking the most heat. Two houses across the street had siding that was melting. Plus the exposure to the left of the camera view (not visible). On my 360 I also found an exposure building burning in the rear. This single point of view doesn't provide an accurate account of the entire scene.

[@rjrestorationstation4402]

David Decker I would also point out that a water supply had not been established yet. Getting things into place with limited personnel hampers things. It ALL takes time. Seconds seam like minuets and minuets seem like eternity. Been the first due engine chauffeur on many a worker. This gang does a great job. Chief Decker is one of my favorites to observe and listen to. If you’re an aspiring wannabe foreground leader, pay attention. You’re seeing one of the best!

[@ffjsb]

That was a ladder that was first on scene as well. Don't know if they have a tank on it, but even if they did, it's not going to be a big one on a ladder.

[@Synth256]

@Chief Decker, in another of your videos, a wire came down off the house and you instantly knew it was utilities. In this video, you instantly knew it was electric. How do you know? Do downed electric wires always spark? Or do you also use height on the utility pole to determine if it's electric or utilities? Before I knew that electric is always at the top, I mistakenly informed the 911 call-taker that a power line had just exploded off the house (he heard the noise and asked what had happened). Should I ever report a house fire again, I would like to avoid that mistake. The information the callers give the call-takers can be so very important. Many thanks! And thank you so very much for putting these videos up here for us. Yes, they are very educational. The video quality is very good, and the command audio adds so much. A couple of my friends volunteer. I truly appreciate this insight into their world, and yours. I read where you said that you had > 25 years experience. Seems to me you also have a natural talent for organization. Kudos!

[@commandvisionfire]

Good question. Downed electric lines don't always spark. But if a line is down and sparking you can almost be sure that it is a power line and dangerous. If a line is down and not sparking it is important to slow down and take a good look at it. The most telling sign is if the line is connected to an insulator at the pole. An insulator is a non-conductive stand-off so that the line doesn't make direct contact with the pole. Another important note, cable-tv, phone and ground lines can become energized if a power line falls across it. You can't be too careful when dealing with downed lines.

[@mxslick50]

I second what Chief Decker said, and add this: ALWAYS call it in as a downed power line, even if you are not sure. One, as Chief said, it could be energized and very dangerous...and second, I speak from experience when I tell you that if you report it as a cable or phone line, it can take several hours or even DAYS before anyone shows up. So always better to say power line, it will get a faster response. (Unless it's SCE, in which case it'll still take hours. )

[@andrewallason4530]

We had an incident here in Tasmania where the power was cut at the isolation fuse on the eave of the structure ( where the mains connection entered the house - one of our first acts on arrival is to pull the fuse ). However, heat from the fire melted the insulation on the wires, before the fuse, which allowed the active cable to contact the neutral, effectively bypassing the fuse into the structure. This caused a very hazardous situation where the crew thought that the area was safe to ‘put the wet stuff on the hot stuff’ until, luckily, they felt a few tingles, and cleared the structure. We are also having quite the issues with solar arrays. Over 2/3 of Tasmanian homes, farm buildings, businesses etc now have rather large solar arrays. These continue to discharge electricity at rather high amperage and need to be isolated in a specific sequence to render the structure safe.

[@DJ-bh1ju]

Gone before you got there... not much to do but knock it down and save the exposures.

[@gregggoss2210]

A firefighter's nightmare. Fully involved and not sure if there there's entrapment, with live wires down. bad stuff.

[@ZackJenkins]

Yeah it's bad stuff handled about as well as it possibly could be.

[@TheDiabeticDietShow]

There should be power disconnects on the pole. You could pull down with a pike pole. I have seen them here before but, I wonder if they are there in Newark. You might want to ask a power co. worker the next time they are on a sene. If not, there should be. Here All outdoor signs & lot lights have a disconnect. We use to pull the meter & gas shut off at the meter. As SOP every fire.

[@dalebraun5497]

You used the term "this is a red x building", what does that mean? Also, how close do you fighters dare to get to the downed power lines? Thanks for your service.

[@commandvisionfire]

We place a red x placard on buildings that are unsafe to enter. Usually they are abandon buildings with serious structural issues. You can read more about it here static1.squarespace.com/static/5567269ce4b02c6f5096564d/t/5821e5cce3df285de6fb4f1a/1478616554286/Red+X+Info+Sheet+HAF.pdf We marked downed powerlines with cones and create a stand-off distance so if the power line were to jump we would be beyond the reach of it, plus a few extra feet for good measure. I hate dealing with electrical emergencies.

[@FloozieOne]

David Decker Thanks for the info Chief. I was wondering about the Red X too. As far as the downed wires, loose electricity scares me to death so I would add a few blocks for good measure instead of your few feet.

[@glennhuber4975]

David Decker so that means the person living there was homeless ?

[@Patrick-ki6nq]

Shows the sooner you put water on a fire the quicker it stops, may be time to put Water Cannons on all pumps that can be used until someone can pull out those hoses and get water on fire. Great Training Video

[@markwillcox720]

Apparatus that have deck guns or nozzles on ladders or elevated streams don't carry enough water on board to utilize, most average carrying 750 gallons or less, a 1" smooth bore nozzle delivers 1000 gallons per minute so it would empty the booster tank of 750 gallons in less than 45 seconds so without a 5" supply line from a hydrant they are pretty much useless ? As a engineer you never want to put your firefighters in harm's way by not having water in your booster tank or a hydrant supply at all times weather interior or not !

[@MsFiregal8]

@@markwillcox720 excellent point

[@markwillcox720]

@@MsFiregal8 thank you

[@PhillipRhodes]

There are departments that like to use a technique where you attack with a deluge gun / monitor, to get a quick knock down, then transition to smaller hand-lines to push in to the seat of the fire. This would be a variation of what is called a "transitional attack". You'll also hear it referred to colloquially as "hit it hard from the yard". It makes sense in some circumstances, but not all. Like everything, the actual details of the situation on the scene determine the best tactics to use. www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-167/issue-10/features/transitional-attack-when-to-use-it-p1.html

[@raymondginn8085]

No doubt, fatality had already occurred upon arrival, but at 2:43 of the video a charged line was available, but not applied to fire until 5:11. Why the delay? 2nd line not applied until 9:15 of the video.

[@proteen545]

great work there on that defensive attac

[@donnierobertson3088]

Great job

[@redbaron474]

Is there some reason Fire departments no longer carry a pole for cutting wires, like they used to show in the old "Emergency" tv series?

[@commandvisionfire]

Cutting power lines is very dangerous. The "hot stick" is supposed to be tested every 90 days to ensure that it will prevent electrocution. It is much safer to just call the power company.

[@redbaron474]

@@commandvisionfire Hmmm, I wonder. Would there be any space on your units for something like a kids RC tank?

[@adelefarough5123]

What is usually done about those arcing power lines?

[@commandvisionfire]

We mark the area with green hazard cones and fireline tape and call the power company. And of course stay away from it. The power company will de-energize it.

[@arlkrt83]

That power line had me tensed because I was terrified that water was going to hit it from the hose and travel up and electrocute someone. Thanks for yalls help and bravery.

[@ryanbabb4857]

arlkrt83. electricity doesn't work like that. it wants to go to ground and will take the path of least resistance.

[@mxslick50]

@@ryanbabb4857 Wrong, please don't perpetuate that "seeks ground" myth. Electricity seeks ALL paths back to it's source (one of which is ground, but it is NOT the only one, and some systems aren't referenced to ground at all (Delta Primaries and secondaries being one example of common ungrounded systems.) You are partly right with the least resistance comment...but again, it takes ALL paths. Current flow will vary amongst the paths depending on resistance however. Lower resistance=higher current flow. BUT even a higher resistance path will still have current flow, possibly lethal. Too many people have been hurt or killed believing that electricity "seeks ground" or takes the path of least resistance. Always best to stay away from downed power lines (or ANY downed line, as sometimes cable and phone lines get energized by contact with live power lines), damaged or smoking electrical equipment, any electrical equipment buzzing loudly or popping, and ANY electrical equipment in or under water.

[@jeffreyalancook4700]

The body that was found deceased was an adult or a child Either way I really feel for the family and will keep the family in prayers.

[@commandvisionfire]

It was an adult. They are working to determine the identity of the person.

[@xanadunadine1970]

A lady posted in one of the comments saying it was her brother.

[@jeffreyalancook4700]

@@xanadunadine1970 Omg my prayers is definitely with her and the family I wished i knew who she is I would contact her and talk with her

[@tomtruesdale6901]

Those kind of fires (fatal) suck big time, worse when they were kids. I HATE downed power lines as they will reach out and get you if they can. Do you all carry chain saws on your trucks? I ask as one would have breached that fence in about 1 minute. I would rather have chain sawed a fence then try to beat it into submission. All around great video, you have a well trained department there.

[@TheDiabeticDietShow]

looks like a job for a deck gun? for the first 5 minutes. a quick knockdown just curious. I understand you know best. (I am a Retired firefighter) love to watch you work. wish I would have had a commander like you at our dept. You have a great team. thank you, Chief for your service.

[@commandvisionfire]

The first arriving was a quint (no deck gun). And they had powerlines down and a tree blocking the ladder, so they couldn't use the stick. But I agree with you, this would have been a good time to use the deck gun.

[@promedic92]

Good to see you on the job Chief! Maybe fence removal training ....... LOL no disrespect just a little ribbing ...

[@commandvisionfire]

Thank you sir. And I concur on the forcible entry training.

[@airplanechu5851]

Wow,What a big fire

[@janeparker1475]

So sad 🙏🏻

[@charger8020]

Holy Christmas how the hell was the entire place involved?? That electric arching was crazy

[@commandvisionfire]

That is a good question. The fire is still under investigation.

[@jeffreyalancook4700]

um David sir. once the fire is started most of the time its not going to remain in one area for very long unless the room is sealed real air tight Other wise the fire is going to progress at a very fast rate especially in a home For an example For a house trailer it only takes 6 minutes or less for a full size house trailer to be fully involved But granted that a full size 2 story house is much bigger but seeing how the house was obviously occupied that means that both 1st an 2nd floors would most likely be full of furniture and other things Not to mentioned the Attic & the basement so with that being a huge factor & depending on how the fire was started.. Its definitely not uncommon to see house fire scenes like this one Of which case the fire had latched onto an exposure dwelling.. & with the electric lines being down and alive That in it's self a dangerous hazard that is Infact a hampering factor in many ways.

[@charger8020]

Jeffrey Alan cook Yes I understand that but usually the response time is pretty quick and for the whole house to be lit that fast is questionable

[@crystaljohnson-glenn115]

There was no electricity nor gas or water turned on in this house and my brother Doug Baumgartner was killed in the fire

[@BlueEagle7911]

@cyrstal johnson - I am sorry for the loss of your brother. I pray for peace for your family.

[@Barefoot0Walker]

yikes! that power line definitely was carrying some high voltage! the news tells little. did they find out anything about the death? i commend you for getting there so soon, even though there was little that could be done due to the intensity of the blaze. i hate to think of what the crew had to be pondering if their water had hit the line in the street! i was curious as to why they had to knock down the fence instead of going over it. it seemed a longer than usual time to get water on the fire. was that due to the hazard posed by the wires, or was there insufficient pressure? while this house was lost, you still do very good work. the exposures were saved, and that was the best you could hope for.

[@MikeySartori]

what kind of dash cam do you use

[@dianejudd1315]

Could you tell me what is the difference between the white helmet and the red helmet I see at each fire

[@commandvisionfire]

All departments are different, but at our department a white helmet is a chief officer, a red helmet is a captain or lieutenant. Black helmets are firefighters.

[@vanessahuman7607]

I have a question. It is not to knock anyone's training or abilities. I don't understand why it takes so long to get the hoses hooked up and going after they get on scene.

[@PhillipRhodes]

Most initial attacks are made with pre-connected handlines so there is no "hook up" phase. But the hose has to be stretched into place and flaked out so it won't kink and tangle. The firefighters also have to finishing donning their PPE, including turning on their air tanks and "clipping in" their masks (you usually want/need to be off the truck before doing this for various reasons). Anyway, assuming the intial attack is with tank water, most departments can have water flowing around 30-45 seconds after the wheels of the engine stop rolling. But sometimes weird things happen... pumps don't want to go into gear, the pump-to-tank valve sticks, etc., etc. In regards to this particular video, we can't see the nozzle of the first attack line in the frame when water starts flowing, nor do we see the truck (ladder 2?) arrive, so there's no way to actually say how long it took them to start flowing water. But by and large, it looks like these guys did a pretty good job, based on what we can see.

[@poppatello]

Sweet video Chief. Keep them coming. I’ve watched them all. What camera are u using?

[@commandvisionfire]

Thank you. I'm just using my old Droid cell phone. Everytime I get a new cell phone my old becames my video camera.

[@doneime875]

No bueno. Appears to possibly be a balloon frame and not very big. Not difficult to see how it could get going that hard that fast. Risk nothing to save nothing. Not much sense hurrying, get set up and attack. Bravo wall collapsed 10 minutes in. Nothing y"all were gonna do with that one. Sorry for the loss of life, they were gone when ya got there.

[@commandvisionfire]

You are absolutely correct. Protect exposures and confine the fire.

[@BenjaminEsposti]

Plus, sometimes, the entire structure will fill with hot gasses and smoke, and smolder for a while before it's quite noticeable outside. It's entirely possible that the victim was already gone ...

[@christophercoburn1646]

Could you maybe do a walk around y'alls stations?

[@commandvisionfire]

Yes. I have had several requests along those lines, so I'm planning on a video.

[@christophercoburn1646]

Thank you.

[@planktoncrayons6317]

Did you ever find out the identity of the victim involved. Or is that information you are not allowed to give? Over all great efforts on trying to put it out. You did what you could and that saved lots of people.

[@paulellis5039]

I was a fire fighter in Saginaw mi an the first truck hit the first hydrant seams like was waste to have men drag a line back to get water just curious??

[@chavez4962]

Chief can you explain what I 20 is?....I’ve heard it a lot and don’t know...thanks for your help and you guys are doing a hell of a job!!!..keep it up

[@commandvisionfire]

I-20 is our Fire Marshal. He investigates all fires.

[@chavez4962]

Oh ok ty

[@timdenowh95]

What was the outcome of this incident?

[@terekwhite9712]

What started it?? How did it get so involved???

[@waynepytlik9166]

Great knockdown. That was gone before you arrived. I would guess balloon type construction. Sorry for the loss of life. Your Department did everything possible but when I saw that collapse you had no choice but to red x the scene and protect your crews.

[@timexironman100m]

The pre shot photo of house was nice shame it got totalled.

[@scottkeefer967]

Chief decker my question is why wasnt the deck gun used while they were pulling the lines we always use deck gun to help keep it under control thats how we do it in the country and we also use tankers too

[@commandvisionfire]

The first arriving apparatus was a quint (75 ft ladder) with no deck gun.

[@markmcculfor6113]

What are the giant flashes and sparks the happen on the right every 20 seconds?

[@commandvisionfire]

That is a power line that had burned off the house and is laying on the road.

[@doneime875]

Ground lightening, AKA live power lines

[@markmcculfor6113]

Ok, I remember that happening when someone (My dad) cut a tree down on a power line, thanks for replying!

[@wnytrashtrucks]

The power line I'm pretty sure

[@puppymonkeybaby5299]

Hey it's the power line In case you didnt hear

[@terekwhite9712]

Whats a "Red X Building" around 14:57

[@Cwswb]

Chief, what kind of hose lays do y'all pack?

[@commandvisionfire]

All of the lines on this fire are preconnects. 150 & 200 feet. We also have a yard lay of 2.5 or 3 inch with a gated wye that we can attach a 1.75 inch bundle.

[@Cwswb]

@@commandvisionfire thanks for the reply, chief. Are your loads packed in a flat lay or another type of fold?

[@commandvisionfire]

@@Cwswb We use a standard flat load.

[@MichealPorter]

how come I see two fire hoses but only one stream of water?????????

[@commandvisionfire]

One hose line was covering exposures.

[@commonsense6794]

Can't believe that the pre-connect came off in such a jumble......... what about shoulder carry and lay in around the side? Overall your videos are great....... nothing to do for the victim here.......seemed like a long time to get water on the fire, but I can't tell what everyone was doing before that..... why don't first in engines hit the hydrant on the way in when they know it's a working fire? tragic loss....... R.I.P........... .

[@markwillcox720]

Chief Decker, when did you'll realize you had a fatality? I'm taking it was after the video ended? It wasn't a firefighter of yours? Thanks again for everything you'll do ! I enjoy your professionalism and relive my years of service ! Still waiting on A&E to make a Live FD featuring Chief Decker I think it would surely kick Chicago Fires butt !!!

[@concretefireman8009]

Mark Willcox Live FD would be super awesome!!! I been wondering about the same thing. Wrote a letter to A&E requesting such.

[@markwillcox720]

@@concretefireman8009 I guess Chief Decker thinks we're joking around but I think his department produces the most professional videos of all KZbin as well as showing the professionalism of the department and their operating procedures! I'm sure he would be the Sticks Larkin of Live FD !

[@commandvisionfire]

I appreciate the compliment.

[@toddbehrends1373]

Do you use "Alpha, Delta" commands instead of North, South, etc?

[@johncottrell7901]

Alpha is the front, Bravo is the side to the left when facing the front of the structure, Charlie is the rear and Delta is the right when facing the front... I think. Easier than trying to figure out cardinal directions or confusing them when a structure isn't oriented cleanly N,S, E & W?

[@colourfastt]

John Cottrell I learned it as the 1 side, 2 side, etc.

[@soupwifey]

I heard in the news that the house had no power for weeks and that it was vacant. That makes me think that the body found inside could have been someone who lost money to pay for power? Could it have been a homeless person? I have prayers for the person who died in this terrible tragedy no matter if they truly lived there or if staying there if homeless. No matter the socioeconomic status of a person. How tragic the loss of that person. I have the upmost respect for firefighters. I was burned in my own apartment fire nearly 30 years ago. It was my fault because I didn't know how to fry food and the fryer exploded. My unit was the only one damaged as I did sacrifice myself do keep the fire from spreading. That's how I got more burns. Now I have a 2 fire extinguishers by my stove and a fire blanket by it too. Never taking a chance again while cooking.

[@adelefarough5123]

Between roughly 14:30 and 16:30, I thought you were having difficulty on the west side of that house. Before that, I thought you had the fire out, then it seemed to flare up again at about 14:30. What happened? Or have I misperceived this?

[@joylumley6858]

The back was still burning and it flared back up some.

[@bobhelman1164]

Chief you have to be very proud of your department. Very well trained. You would be wise to go to other departments like F.D.N.Y. and give them lessons on how to fight a fire. I know every fire is different. But your dept. Makes a really hard job look relatively easy. Thank you for your service and stay safe

[@turbolivesinmyheart6328]

Would you ever even be able to find a cause after that. So sad to see. Condolences. I am going to make sure my smoke alarms are functioning well.

[@commandvisionfire]

Yes, sometimes it would still be possible, but not always.

[@frankbrito7959]

Put captions on. In the beginning of video. lol