we have moved away from making bikes look like a trek to now make bikes look like santa cruz?
@DB-sd3cw7 ай бұрын
Won't look like a santa cruz until they charge 5k+ and have the audacity throw an SX/NX drivetrain on
@hobblyjig7 ай бұрын
Nope.
@323johnnybravo7 ай бұрын
Yeah since Trek started copying all of GTs designs people had to rip off Santa Cruz
@shaunschneeberger63017 ай бұрын
Wasn’t this the specialized enduro design lol
@trailfork78157 ай бұрын
@@shaunschneeberger6301 this is literally vpp
@aaronburela4327 ай бұрын
I really like the low center shock and improved penalty box. Looks like a bike ready to race.
@jlh530i17 ай бұрын
Two hot takes: 1) Loam Wolf should only review VPP bikes with a coil. 2) I think most trails are suited to bikes with a 1250 to 1260 wheelbase, regardless of rider size. I think its going to become more popular for experienced riders to downsize on these enduro bikes to get the desired ride feel but also maintain agility.
@topchoice16217 ай бұрын
4199$ for a carbon frame is just insanity smh 🤦♂️ other than that it’s a nice bike
@mrvwbug44237 ай бұрын
So I'm guessing certain David Weagle patents expiring last year let them use this suspension again. Interested to compare it to my 2023 Altitude. I've actually found mine to ride quite plush but still extremely controlled, not stiff at all. it's definitely longer and slacker than mine, though not to a crazy level. One of the reasons why I got the Altitude was it is an absolute weapon when pointed downhill without the gigantic reach or barge like wheelbase of other enduro bikes, it's a great bike for "enduro bike as your only bike". I also see they stuck with their trend of very high stack height, which is great.
@TheMirrorVision7 ай бұрын
This is their version of VPP, not DW-link, but I think you are right that we'll see other manufacturers creating their version of DW in the coming couple of years.
@alexgordon82777 ай бұрын
The "size specific chainstays" were mentioned so often, bit there are only 2 different lengths (440 and 450 mm), and the difference is only 10 mm. Not very accurate, isn't it?
@FreekaPista7 ай бұрын
Does the small stay with 440mm?
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Small has 430 stays, but can only be run in a dual 27.5 config.
@alexgordon82777 ай бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf yes, correct, I missed that.
@joshjohnson59027 ай бұрын
Looks like a Santa Cruz (not a bad thing), Virtual Pivot like a Santa Cruz (again not a bad thing), how does it compare to a Nomad/Megatower?
@hannes61147 ай бұрын
More downhilly
@mrvwbug44237 ай бұрын
Biker's Edge review said it is a step above the Megatower on the downhill, but maybe doesn't climb quite as efficiently. BE made it obvious that the new Altitude is not an efficient pedaller, but is very active, so will hold traction up tech climbs.
@roddas267 ай бұрын
No high pivot yay
@JB-zu8cp3 ай бұрын
Love the bubbles in the vid lol good review 👍 but I do have a question on two different bikes 2024 Rocky Mountain Slayer or Intense Tracer 29 which would you pick ?
@64x837 ай бұрын
gonna buy the exact model as you got there but I also saw you repping the new OR riding gloves, how are they so far?
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Hey what's up. This is a sweet bike for sure. I really really like the gloves. BUT, I have three pair and one of the three has torn/split at the seams at the palm/thumb area. OR has a great warranty department but feel it worth mentioning. As much as I love them, we're waiting to hear back in if we got an early sample or this is an issue. Worth noting, i like to wear gloves that rea really tight, so, that extra strain could be causing some premature wear. Thanks Drew
@64x837 ай бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf got the gloves and I love them so far, thanks! still working on finding the altitude...
@matthiascampedelli43217 ай бұрын
This colorway looks so good !
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Sure is a beauty!
@sety4097 ай бұрын
I’m in the opposite end. Then again I like the ibis oso and other people hate em
@DB-sd3cw7 ай бұрын
Literally just black?...
@joehoeper39417 ай бұрын
Black? Yeah.....never seen that before.......yawn
@matthiascampedelli43217 ай бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw Yeah but the raw carbon makes it a bit more interesting :)
@coletaylor6845 ай бұрын
What did u do to get rid of the seat post noise mine is doing the same thing
@64x836 ай бұрын
since it's raw carbon / gloss black do you think matte or gloss ride wrap would work better?
@TheLoamWolf6 ай бұрын
Probably have to go with gloss. This thing is too pretty to matte out.
@philippk99547 ай бұрын
How far can you push the dropper into the seattube? Will it fit the holy grail (200mm) fully inserted? :D
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Yes it should. Our bike was an early sample that unfortunately had a 175 instead of a 200mm post. Size large should fit the 200mm for most all riders no problem according to Rocky.
@philippk99547 ай бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf thanks!
@MostBallinestPlaya7 ай бұрын
290mm max insertion in a 440mm seat tube on the Large
@myusername12707 ай бұрын
I just took delivery of mine and I’m really annoyed with that rattle! Have you come up with a solution to the issue? Are you sure it’s the seat post?
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
We found out that it is a warranty issue with Fox. It is a bummer for a new bike for sure, but we were told to contact the dealer or Fox directly and get a new post under warranty.
@paull66787 ай бұрын
Any updates here? Mine still rattles after swapping posts. Did the replacement fix your issue?
@williamkey90417 ай бұрын
Sweet bike and thanks for the review. Where are you riding in the video?
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Thanks. We’re in Bend Oregon
@williamkey90417 ай бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf I live in Bend as well, but didn’t recognize the trails.
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Horse Ridge.
@ejhayes766 ай бұрын
@@williamkey9041Go out there in the winter. Also check out Cline up near Redmond.
@jankaskyevitchjellbet72937 ай бұрын
Spec enduro vibes! Good vibes!
@mrvwbug44237 ай бұрын
Except for a completely different riding position, the Altitude is high stack, less crazy reach, more like a DH bike where the Spec Enduro is one of the lowest stacks in the class and a fairly long though not insane reach.
@rockandchilimtb7 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention which size were you running on this test, and the average height of your testers. 🤔
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Drew is 5’11” (180) testing the size Large.
@masonjohnson55837 ай бұрын
I currently have an previous gen orbea Occam, I want to race dh and enduro competitively in collage. Should I get this or a dh bike?
@masonjohnson55837 ай бұрын
(I get a discount on Rocky Mountain and specialized bikes, I have a little more emphasis on my dh racing)
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Well if you want to race DH, get a DH bike. Provided that your terrain and courses warrant that. If you want to race enduro as well, then you're pretty much forced to pick one bike that will do both, that means an Enduro bike since you can't really pedal a DH bike! haha. Good luck and enjoy the season!
@mrvwbug44237 ай бұрын
Optimally, you would get both, but if you're looking to race both and can only afford one bike get an enduro bike. If you have a big discount on RM and Specialized I would still take the Altitude over the Enduro. Maybe last years Altitude since you can get them at huge discounts (I got a 2023 Altitude C70 for $5200 last year, that was a nearly $8000 bike at MSRP).
@masonjohnson55837 ай бұрын
@@mrvwbug4423Thanks man, appreciate the advice
@unclewickedmtb20237 ай бұрын
Hey guys! Great vid. How’s it compare to newest Tyee? That would be a great shootout
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Honestly, we can't give the most definitive answer just yet as the primary testers for each bike haven't spent equal amounts of time on each bike... Surprisingly, in some areas the bikes do share some very similar feelings and traits. We look forward to putting more miles on this bike with more riders to answer that better in the future.
@solarrover95757 ай бұрын
Press fit BB ??
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
threaded
@BowzKnows7 ай бұрын
But is it XC cushcore like the altitudePP? It doesn't do much need pro for sure.
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Cushcore Trail on this one.
@mrvwbug44237 ай бұрын
Interesting that they're including it now. My 2023 Altitude didn't come with it, but I had cushcore pro on my old bike so had it moved over when I bought the Altitude.
@LaurentiusTriarius7 ай бұрын
We'll see more than in rocky beautiful intro video where you can't see the damn bike. Yes 🎉
@TheLoamWolf7 ай бұрын
Haha, we hope so! Hope you enjoy.
@kingflynxi94207 ай бұрын
It looks familiar... cant quite put my finger on why?
@SylvainProov7 ай бұрын
SCOR 4060 LT :D
@323johnnybravo7 ай бұрын
And here I was wanting to replace my MegaTower with the new altitude. Seems pointless now !!
@southpawlibranine35117 ай бұрын
Only 27.5 for small? Fail
@lagwall7 ай бұрын
Another company tries to make a Santa Cruz... cool
@andyboy1985777776 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how these bikes are copying eachother. Lol The only thing I don’t like about Rocky Mountain is that they don’t offer a crash replacement. Replacements are at full cost. That’s what I was told by rocky
@AverageJoe977 ай бұрын
This general design screams Santa Cruz copy cat.
@-phos-7 ай бұрын
The price screams louder.
@geilerdorsch7687 ай бұрын
I agree 100%
@DB-sd3cw7 ай бұрын
Nah not until they start deciding to rob people by throwing sx/nx drivetrains on while also charging 5k+. Then it'll be a santa cruz clone
@mrvwbug44237 ай бұрын
@@-phos- It's actually cheaper than last years model. C70 Shimano was $7899 last year at MSRP, though huge discounts could be had in the fall.