News - Rumors - Scams I GTS I Platinum Breaks I Goldin

News and rumors from around the hobby. Platinum Card Breaks and DSS Breaks got hit with the "Logan Paul" scam. Goldin hit a new record. Fanatics and Topps are saying goodbye to GTS Distribution.
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[@brians23]

Platinum gonna Platinum. Felt bad for the DSS guy, you could actually see him die inside

[@snarkyguy2657]

Platinum Dude didn't even notice that the individual seals on the inner box were slit, as the outer seal looked wonky. Dude was clueless.

[@ttyler62]

Thought the same thing. They repacked it

[@ATX512thatguy]

I don’t know how someone this into the hobby with this much experience could miss all those broken seals that we could easily see on camera. 🚩🚩🚩

[@ttyler62]

@@ATX512thatguy he did not miss them. He or someone from platinum repackaged it. Then just played along with there scam

[@mrbob8618]

@@ttyler62How would that benefit them.

[@ttyler62]

@@mrbob8618 people do crazy stuff on there way out. How does foul language and acting like gangster help them?

[@SanshoTheBailiff]

Platinum are crooks.

[@johnnyv1938]

Platinum scammed before. Not shedding a tear for that clown

[@OleLockAndKey]

Given Platinum's track record, I'm not so sure this wasn't an inside job. Typiclly in those NT cases, there's one box that has the "case hit" (ie qb rpa). There's also typically a pattern as to where they place said box in the case. The outer case seal is easily faked/taped over. Used to break with them quite a bit, haven't since the Fields scam. Just my $.02

[@sharablecortex2725]

Fields scam? I'm new

[@grizzloradams1413]

Those NT case seals were so obviously cut…it’s hard to imagine you wouldn’t notice the total lack of sticker/seal resistance to the box knife blade. 🙄 I loathe the current state of the card collecting hobby. I got back into card collecting in late 2012, and over the course of the last decade-the “fun” has just about been completely siphoned out of the hobby. From the ridiculously inflated hobby/retail product prices, to shady breakers, and nausea inducing retail product scalpers.

[@kalegerry9965]

Retail breakers being used in the video is the worst part of it. The fact that someone can and will go into a retail store and clear the shelves for profit kills it for everyone.

[@philiphewitt1801]

The pandemic parasites ruined the Hobby 4 me & I can't trust anyone anymore. !!!

[@kalegerry9965]

@@philiphewitt1801 I couldn’t agree more. I’ve watched people fight over retail and fill their carts and left the shelves empty.

[@mattbruckner7228]

Dss cards is local to me. He's a really good guy unlike a lot of greedy breakers. He reimbursed everyone in the break and thankfully was refunded for the box from who he bought it from.

[@jaydoublebusy]

He refunded "Everyone who requested it".His words

[@joshhaughton5825]

Because he ran a more expensive box apparently, and some teams weren’t as good in that since it was a different year. So he let people request refunds based on if they hit or not

[@carlpledger8719]

at :46 you can see clearly that the seal is already broken and the razor slides through the already cut tape with no resistance. if you didn't see it prior to cutting, you'd sure as hell sense the lack of pressure as you cut. scammers for sure. How anyone could still break with these guys.

[@bobbydice8934]

Nice to see The Flying Dutchman iconic card keeps on rising. It’s a good thing overall for the hobby.

[@i3lazinkush760]

Imagine a market where collectors could actually easily access packs to buy like the old days. This breaker shit is just ridiculous. I’m sick and tired of spending 80-150 on breaks walking away with junk. I’d rather just buy packs. Screw these breakers. There’s only a couple breakers I care for but man the hobby needs to shift

[@raidersacdc4892]

Buy your own hobby boxes. 150 bucks you’re spending. Save for a few weeks & buy your own. The shop in the Tampa Bay Area where I go is the cheapest & they ship anywhere in the US

[@seanbailey8545]

But breakers are driving up prices.

[@i3lazinkush760]

@@seanbailey8545 sad isn’t it

[@daveycash3479]

@@raidersacdc4892 Just saw your comment, what shop do you go to in Tampa? Wonder Water?

[@raidersacdc4892]

@@daveycash3479 yes that’s where i shop at. Been going there for yrs. He’s expanded lots of stuff for sale

[@toppchoicesportscards]

Feel bad for the DSS guy. I know that look he had. I've had that same look before and could feel exactly what he was feeling

[@bonniebob2802]

You could see that NT box was already opened. There’s no way they didn’t know!

[@MessOfThings]

That second one was a lot more realistic of the reaction somebody would have if they actually got scammed. The one with platinum, I don't understand how somebody doesn't notice the first piece of tape was already cut when he got into the box. And then the reaction of all of them is to just laugh it off like it's a joke? People don't laugh like that when they're actually getting screwed.

[@ZiggyNo]

I could see the tape was cut on the NT box. The breakers move too quickly and don't examine the boxes anymore. Did Goldin report the T206 to Card Ladder? And does Goldin make 20pts on that 7.25? Seems fishy too me. Watch it cross over to a PSA slab next. Agree. Time for the rooster to roost.

[@ChadBro1985]

Why in the world would someone crossover that card to PSA? You actually think they're trying to flip a 7.25mil card? LOL

[@bryanwilson5812]

How about the scam that was the nationals silver packs?!? Paid $120 for 3 packs and pulled 6 commons! Yet when you watched the breakers, they pulled rookies and autos in every pack!

[@jamesher7835]

It's business its bs stuff

[@gmogomez525]

There's a channel called packman I call him scamman his subscribers and commenters get scammed thinking their getting cards he's giving away but he takes their money citing shipping and handling fees.

[@hillcitycollectibles7790]

We have a card shop in Lynchburg Va. and have been worried about how in the world we will be able to get product. We started getting the cold shoulder years ago from a couple of the big distributors that you mentioned and can not get anything... 50k order and can't get a box..hahaha.... this is killing us and I hope Fanatics helps the LCS or we are done.

[@simondaughtry4619]

I love a good, greedy, iconic, high end, well centered scam with a clean auto...... the bigger the crime ... the longer the time.

[@Trading_Cards_Immortal]

Don’t mess with breakers I want to open the cards myself, retail needs to start carrying stuff again or make it accessible for people trying to get in the hobby if they want this thing to grow again. As for these scammers screwing people with fake sealed boxes people have to think smarter.

[@davidburris8230]

How about the scammers quit fooling with the sealed boxes.

[@Trading_Cards_Immortal]

@@davidburris8230 I agree, it’s all messed up regardless

[@philiphewitt1801]

That is best part of the Hobby, I want 2 rip my own cards . The pandemic opened the door 2 shady people that only had $$ in their eyes. The joke is on them I started way B4 the pandemic & had access 2 anything I wanted.2011 was a great year to be a collector

[@Trading_Cards_Immortal]

@@philiphewitt1801 I think it's gonna get a bit more ugly before it gets better again.

[@forpetesake20]

Its comical that people think that plastic with a brand logo on it can't be duplicated. Dudes be like look the plastic is still on it like plastic is invincible

[@mrechannel2023]

I bought a bunch of $3 retail packs of Stadium Club at Target back in 2019; they were full of 2017 Topps commons. I wrote to Topps and they graciously sent me 2 random no-name autos!

[@bgutty5945]

I know people over at Card Hub Breakers. Their invester just had dinner with the owner of fanatics. Fanatics is going to give to them directly.

[@sammolter9448]

I have done breaks on platinum, and I like doing breaks with austin or D specifically. That nt box already had the sticker seal broke on it, and maybe the box inside looked like stickers may have already been broken. They try to open the cards to quickly, and its not necessary because they dont have breaks filled back to back, and theres time in between when they fill up. No need to mishandle cards, and not be careful with 1000s of dollars people pay to get in these breaks.

[@bgutty5945]

They had to know. U can't tell me he didn't feel himself cutting air.

[@yorkvillecharlie]

fck gts, they are part of the reason I don't break boxes anymore. They've been holding back products since 2019.

[@randomname3715]

Wow. Probably want to delete the part about the guy taking bribes.

[@kennethgriffin7921]

what I don't understand is the boxes go way up in price while the cards are coming down in value. makes no sense

[@Yo_AB_Breaks]

That NT box was clearly not sealed. Like, how could he not see the mangled stickers on the case and the box?

[@PeterJ79]

Your autos are fake, your cards are trimmed and your factory sealed product has been sorted through.

[@jrobertmoore9406]

Rubin has said in interviews that he wants the distributors out. Fanatics will sell most product direct and online and run their own secondary market through StockX....

[@stluka1]

Love seeing any breaker get scammed, don’t even care which one it is lol

[@mrathburn]

Me too

[@iparxo]

If GTS is out only means one thing direct sales to hobby shops from card company thus the fly by night box case breakers be gone as then the hobby shops will have more control on product prices and less competition for live breaking. Seeing the 2 video clips of the boxes being opened none show the plastic wrap being sliced and matter of fact the first box break seems it had been already opened and then slipped back on the box and was hidden from camera view. But what happened did they open an other box and was it same or it was set up to make buyers feel sad for them.

[@Card_Asylum]

00:45 that's not a sealed box. 😕

[@ryandonnelly9142]

DSS breaks was so crazy. Still can’t believe that happened but he’s a standup guy

[@nickpapagiorgio2253]

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see Fanatics helping out the LCS, they are in it for as much money as they can get. You will have to buy everything through them for a slight discount. GTS is only the start of the distributors that will be cut off. Shits about to get wild

[@vernateriyaki8031]

I did a few cheap breaks. Fortunately broke even. I'm not ripping any new packs because you are just setting $$ on fire. Unless the off chance you pull a great card.

[@sammolter9448]

Im glad im out the hobby i went pretty strong, and made a profit. I just sold in 2020-21 as i pulled in breaks. I made profit, and I also quit after I sold my herberts in wek 5 of last football season. Ebay went to tihs all of a sudden non paying buyer comp scam happened every week were non paying buyers , didnt pay and then set ceiling for cards i was listing and then had a friend scoop em up because auctions go about 30-40% under comps. Once the first non paying buyer doesnt pay the 1st auction that goes 30% under comp on average. The item i m listing gets devalued and goes for 60-70% at auction under comp the next time i relist. ITs too much hassle as I dont need to sell cards on ebay its just a hobby. I just kinda rolled cash flow week to wek to buy cards or into breaks. I just dont want to be grouped with really bad scams and scammers. I used to sell drugs when i was alot younger . I have seen it all. I never put myself out there too far to get scammed because im that guy thats comin to get my money from you .

[@APinTheAK]

Get it on the arm then I need a lil interest.

[@thegambleyt2002]

It was spoken about a few times at the National, how much pressure is on the staff at Goldin to secure a $10M sale before the SGC Mantle ends. There is a ton of ego on the line.

[@SecronSeven]

Get so damn excited when I see you post. Always entertaining. Thanks!

[@Hogfan6494]

do a video on pwcc and probstein

[@sunny8784]

Thats crazy, Golden takes 22% of final sale! no way in hell would i consider selling my card at Golden at this premium!! Golden took 1.5M from that deal! highway robbery!!

[@Gmig14]

Stop supporting breakers so boxes end up back at the shops again

[@zachandporter]

Appreciate your insight and truthful coverage of the hobby.

[@thrillofthehunt7080]

I get a resealed box, but how are they getting the plastic wrap with the companies logos done correctly?

[@badkarma1289]

If you have a basic design program, some plastic wrap, a decent printer, and a hair dryer/heat gun, you too can be the next scamboi hypebeast scumbag "BRO, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" oxygen thief breaker.

[@ctcards2636]

Id really gotten into collecting cards again and within a matter of a few months I had people trying to scam me and getting ripped off on a card. Was a s**t show. Luckily it wasnt that much, but there is so much BS out there in this hobby i am shocked. Turned me off and i have not even gone thru my collection in over month, thats how sour of a taste i got from this experience and im too old to get hassled in such a manner as I was. Good luck to yall and maybe someday ill feel different but from collecting to grading to trading, so many rip off artists. Sad. Some folks who were watching my videos know I was determined to finish my Maris and Cepeda collections, but i got scammed on Cepeda rookie and that was it.

[@ABunchOfCards]

That box WAS NOT sealed. Took wrapper off then if you look at seal it is broken. Check it out again

[@clotmcshotjr5917]

Look at the wrapper….. he doesn’t cut it yet so much stretch ?

[@i3lazinkush760]

And those platinum breakers are scum bags run from those guys

[@1CentSportsCards]

I am a breaker but do not use distribution and break for a group of Patreon members at prices that don't really net me real profits. I do it because I like ripping. I'm OK with distro getting axed but I'm not OK with Fanatics costing lots of jobs of honest workers at those facilities along with LCS owners etc. Would you rather buy cards from a reputable LCS owner who used distro or from a $12/hour Lids associate in a mall - because that's exactly where Fanatics is taking this whole thing. You're new LCS is Lids, your new grading company is whomever they choose to buy out and you're force fed anything they want to serve you because, well, they have a monopoly. The antitrust suits have got to be coming at some point...

[@ChadBro1985]

Well said 1 cent! Love the content you upload as well! Very helpful when choosing which product to rip!

[@1CentSportsCards]

@@ChadBro1985 Thanks Tony, I appreciate that!

[@Firecracker321g]

@@1CentSportsCards agree with u on that!

[@kodytaylor1846]

well if it brings down prices of boxes i'm all for it. No reason these breakers should have a monopoly on the hobby. Box prices are way to high

[@1CentSportsCards]

@@kodytaylor1846 That's the rub though. Box prices aren't going to go down. Look on the Fanatics site right now. Those prices are higher than Blowout and SCC. Fanatics is just going to take out the middle man and keep at the money to themselves. Make no mistake about it, "direct to consumer" will not mean lower pricing. It'll mean more Fanatics profits. And in the process, a lot of jobs and small businesses (LCSs that sell boxes and sealed wax via the distro network) are going to be lost. It sucks.

[@gq2055]

Real talk, whenever you break something on here, the “breakers” use that content 24-48 hrs later, for there own content in the reels. Keep up the great work

[@kempersportscards8341]

Love watching these videos!!!

[@derekgraziano9499]

Sad people steal from other like that ... sick people especially for that much money.

[@troyspartan95]

I'm getting sick and tired of these doggone scammers!!! They are destroying everything The same thing happened to me last week I stopped by CVS To get some fixodent for my Dentures and I got home and the box contained hemorrhoidal wart cream!!!! I'm tired of this bull poop!! I can still taste it in my mouth

[@sp123]

If you can't afford the box yourself then buy singles

[@sammolter9448]

Nice video. Fanatics is doing the right thing, its like a fully profitable business was there for the taking. Topps products are a staple in hobby. They bought topps . and now the get to be biggest distributor of cards in the world at same time. Topps should of done this long ago and expanded. You might even have to become a chain hobby shop like mcdonalds but for cards. Fanatics will take over licenses in football and basketball , and be a full on monopoly in the hobby , and control everything.

[@stephanwilliams5818]

Every single seal on the National Treasure 2020 box was broken… isn’t this the same breakers whole had posted notes in there box… the same exact posted notes on the break table…

[@armenassaturian5850]

Fanatics gonna break all these scam artists are gone

[@nickpapagiorgio2253]

Good luck getting any allocation from GTS. I have an account but only get Pokemon from them and even then I can only get a case at most

[@williewoodall8305]

That legend of 5 rings cards are runneth over at ANY goodwill Any goodwill....You might as well buy some records from tijuana brass from platinum...

[@HiepNguyen-zs4up]

Security seal was broken before box was opened

[@EdgarHernandez-vy2kn]

Obvious outside seal is sliced already

[@danleu7499]

You know I'm not going to speculate but by knowing its going to be locked away for a long long time what stops golding and sgc from faking a card to sell for 7million freaking dollars

[@TheBreakWaveSports]

The potential of completely destroying both businesses maybe? 7 million would not be worth the damage that would be done if that got out

[@retrorampage9015]

Stop being ducking greedy and charging 1,000 dollars for 300 dollar hobby box’s.

[@KMAN_CORNER]

what did the Mantle 9.5 go for from Heritage ?

[@timbedair4003]

So who sold the box of prizm to DSS cards just curious if this is the same person selling opened product

[@amihan99]

What the hell. So many scammers

[@sharablecortex2725]

I wish i didnt laugh as hard as i did for that DDS guy....lmao....theres a laugh in the background that cracked me up

[@sococomfort22s34]

So instead of getting cards at the local hobby store now I gotta go to lids lol. I remember as a kid getting sports cards out of a vending machine in shop right lol.

[@sp123]

There was a KZbin comment on a Michael Rubin video saying everyone in Topps is getting fired in 2023

[@wingwalkr76]

Loved Legend of the five rings as a kid. I’d be pumped for those. Lol

[@maythe4th420]

If you look at National Treasures box bottom seal is cut before on inside box take screen shots it's clear. The other guy could tell was stunned it looked perfect. Platinum was probably inside job. Never seen sealed box see seal on top of box. Outside seal cut also.

[@cashrules520]

How many card shops have beem robbed, burned down, or scam. Whem you cant get another dollar. You burn the joint. Just like in goodfellas

[@raidersacdc4892]

How do we contact you directly?

[@fliplife67]

Im hopeful when Fans take over that they will stop breakers we the common forks of the hobby want to buy hobbyboxes.

[@1CentSportsCards]

Why can't you buy them now? They're in every LCS, online... If it's "they're too expensive" that's not gonna change with Fanatics in charge. Just go look at their site. They're more expensive than Steel City.

[@fliplife67]

@@1CentSportsCards So U think if Prizm, Select or Optic Basketball or Football hobby say goes for 2k a box people will still buy it.

[@1CentSportsCards]

@@fliplife67 Yes. Breakers are most definitely not the only people who open those products. LCSs sell boxes and cases regularly to customers.

[@Akho21570]

Best card world info channel on KZbin! 👍

[@EatMyPattys]

Their reactions seem so fake. I feel like these are fraudulent claims

[@apolloprocards7011]

The platinum guys I believe but the DSS guy took a $15k hit on that box. And opened up a 25k box for the people who bought in to the break instead so he ended up losing like 20k or more on that whole ordeal. And he refunded the people who still weren't happy with the 25k box that bought into the Prizm box initially. He made a whole video about it. I felt bad for him.

[@apolloprocards7011]

I mean I believe they would lie the platinum breakers but the DSS guy legit almost cried.

[@hellothere9645]

@@apolloprocards7011 DSS said they were refunded and then some from their source

[@russdy1982]

2.5 air cuts later he realises… yep seems plausible.

[@paulssportscards2078]

On the nt you can see both seals were cut already

[@keepgrindingkeepwinning9237]

Platinum breaks r scammers and criminals

[@Wheres-Wolfie]

Great video thank you! Quick question do you think think the football card market will be a little better as soon as the season starts? I'm actually going to quit selling some of my cards now because I have been going backwards and just looking to buy right now. Thanks in advance.

[@SportsCardShow]

If the 2021 QBs play well it will probably pick up, but if one or more start to bust it could soften things if it’s only the old QBs playing well

[@boxscorehub]

At this point, PB doesn't care. Dude scamming right in there face.

[@zachpierce641]

Love seeing Bench Clear getting shoutouts everyone should go check them out. Great guys

[@joeymccusker2506]

Our guy G back at it again!

[@user-rc4lc3ds9t]

Good stuff

[@jimmy_iKoN]

I don’t trust Kenny Goldin as much as I trust Don West

[@jimmy_iKoN]

I’m kidding I don’t trust anyone

[@mrathburn]

GEM MINT TEN!!!!!

[@donaldfrezzo4808]

Folks you need to get in on this now! This is a once in a lifetime opportunity!!

[@Duuuval23]

The first seal he “cut” was already cut lol. I know I’m late to the party, to seriously hope these guys are not in business anymore. I’ve seen multiple videos of them scamming people.

[@mikealvord55]

A new way to sustain themselves,”. It’s called a job

[@spic0li]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣DSS eat it buddy thank you for allowing us to see your reaction after opening the box.

[@cardphlix]

Great episode! Reppin' my Giants too, I like that.

[@jharris7685]

Lets see if you can do a video without shaming people for being white and into sports cards.

[@BillBondsHasAPosse]

Its like being dope sick and buying a bag of all cut and no dope.

[@jackiechapman8189]

Ripleys believe it..😝 There's something that smells like💩over at Platinum the guy didn't really show that NT outer seal of the box..🕵😲 Watch out for these groups/breakers they greedy af..😢 Take care guys..👍💕🔥⚾🤙

[@therainmakerinsider]

I was at the NSCC… I caught covid. I should have wore a mask. I got stubborn. I going to the Burbank show wearing a mask.

[@charliewidmar6778]

🤡

[@dereknankivell1604]

Mask isnt stopping anything

[@Flanch82]

DSS guy probably made more off those cards than junk Prizm 😂

[@jaydoublebusy]

Correction the market is not "going up and up and up",its taken AT LEAST a 40% downslide.Scammers will abound,you can bet on that.

[@ralphwilliams2396]

Not only sports cards but every hobby is out of control 2020 turned everything upside down

[@paulssportscards2078]

This is so wrong. I know how they feel ive bought a few boxes that were resealed

[@chrisbuk7405]

Idk how Austin didn't know his blade didn't cut anything

[@arresthillary9502]

Good way to get sued, putting Kevin's photo up and insinuating that he is committing a crime

[@SportsCardShow]

See you in court scrub

[@slimrick]

15gs on wax I'm only spending that money ... if I had that money I mean I'd buy off ppl I trust in person card shops not online

[@idonttext9783]

zion needs a good year in the nba they need him to do well

[@sdurham1662]

Always the black gloves...

[@Monothiest247]

Got a solution for high retail prices. Make breaking illegal. Product won’t move as much, problem solved.

[@GhostofJohnPrine]

How on earth would you make breaking illegal?

[@Monothiest247]

@@GhostofJohnPrine label it gambling