Charles III: the last King of England? | The New Statesman podcast

The Kate Middleton conspiracies prove Britain's addiction to the monarchy is in crisis.
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The British royal family was in crisis even before Queen Elizabeth II died, and King Charles III and the Princess of Wales both became ill with cancer. The public reaction to Kate Middleton's cancer news and the conspiracies surrounding her absence demonstrate our perverse relationship to royalty.
"We are torturing them with our attention," says Tanya Gold, author of the New Statesman cover story "The Fragile Crown". She joins Chris Stone on the New Statesman podcast.
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[@susansmith6737]

Many of us hope he is the last King - even he is one too many. These billionaires who follow their own rules should not be provided with public funding.

[@jeannesunshine8190]

La complicité silencieuse de certains gouvernements comme d’habitude.

[@chi2boca44]

Lady, if you think that bench recording was real, you have really been hoodwinked. Something else is clearly going on. I say this with no glee whatsoever but only the deepest of concern for Kate. It's getting ridiculous.

[@robynhoward3210]

I agree. I’m very concerned and am bracing for News. 💔🥲

[@heiligebimbam3073]

Nonsense, Elizabeth 2, was a bad mother, cold and without compassion, his own children. Charles’s biography as a young man was just as critical as Harry’s. And this nonsense of her being perfect is a myth, she has been very active in hiding her family’s ill gotten wealth in offshore companies and blocking laws which make her responsible for racist employment behaviour within the palace. And don’t start me on on Churchill, a man who sanctioned genocide in India, and made racist comments throughout his whole life.

[@susansmith6737]

Oh well said!

[@kismit100]

Rubbish, absolute nonsense

[@VideoSaySo]

Don't forget what happened in Ireland on her watch 🤣🤣 Also, not just Ireland. England bullied her way around the globe, burned, murdered and stole a path as wide as the Moon! The artifact thievery alone should be considered an international crime.

[@jeannesunshine8190]

Malheureusement ces gens deviennent amnésiques quand ils le veulent tout régent qui a passé son règne à faire la guerre pour posséder les biens d’autrui il y a un terme précis les concernant. La monarchie est passée avant son fils aîné vu qu’il serait son héritier. Elle a formé son petit-fils pour ce rôle. Il y a un prix à payer.

[@stevepipenger4651]

@@susansmith6737 I think that's spot on. My reaction was that she didn't contradict anything you said here. She was saying that EII was perfect for the job because these comments that seem so impactful on the current crop royals didn't impact her, which is what makes everything you wrote so believable.

[@marinagallant1847]

Keep in mind that the Royal family is a business and the king is the CEO

[@MeisieKotze-no4xs]

Why? Is it okay that they murder other people just as they like and decide. It is all BS

[@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw]

If he's the CEO, then he's not doing a very good job. CEOs can be replaced in a boardroom takeover or coup.

[@elizabethwallace-donnelly.2356]

He is too busy with. WEF

[@susansmith6737]

It is a very badly run business.

[@lennymac5915]

The Shareholders should be able to sack him in that case.

[@MissR-hn8be]

Was Queen Elizabeth II really perfect?? Or did she turn a blind eye all too often, I wonder?

[@seanjones5682]

As monarch, she could have ended all of the rivalries, but instead chose to turn a blind eye and allow the foolishness to exacerbate. She was a passive leader in name only.

[@oliverraven]

The country and the world weren't in a good place when she passed away - the former wasn't entirely her fault and the latter was beyond her control - but it's become increasingly clear over the past 19 months that she didn't prepare her beloved 'Firm' very well at all for coping after her demise. So no, of course she wasn't perfect.

[@seanjones5682]

@@oliverraven The state of the world has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to parent/lead/put her foot down on the individuals within her own family. Your explanation is trying to absolve her of accountability. Real leaders/monarchs do not have that luxury. They are accountable for EVERYTHING that happens during their reign. Heavy is the head that wears the crown (in theory).

[@MaliKamicak]

​@@seanjones5682agree. She really made HUGE error on creating Andrew problem. Because, he is her creation, she allowed him too much, and she covered even reword him for his actions. So, the most dangerous thing for monarchy now is her doing.

[@sallie6]

NO she was not perfect...she lived in a sham marriage and expected the british people to look up to her and Philip as a perfgect married couple where behind the scenes he had multiple mistresses, illegitimate children, was a drunk going to brothels! she psychologically damaged Charles, Andrew and Edward (Anne survived) by her cold ways where she put HERSELF and the COUNTRY first...she should never have had children because as a mother she failed with showing love! even Charles himself wrote this in the Dimbleby book in the mid 90''s that his mother was cold, distant and his father was nothing but a bully!

[@marky555]

End public funding for super-wealthy people - they can keep the titles, but fund your own lifestyle.

[@tobeytransport2802]

And get rid of their constitutional power too… let’s elect our Head of State. You only have to look around Europe and see that even countries who elect loonies as the Head of Government are quite happy to elect dignified and inspiring Heads of State, perhaps to compensate!

[@danielwebb8402]

So you think they should keep the Crown estate income but receive no royal grant? You realise that would cost the taxpayer?

[@sandyno1089]

@@danielwebb8402 Make the royals pay tax.

[@janbrown9195]

Agree , but also don’t use any of their own money to help others, simply really.

[@marky555]

@@danielwebb8402 please explain

[@sionsmedia8249]

It's weird how the happiness of a few people is put above the stability of the country.

[@wendyturney8914]

If happiness were depicted by wealth and power, the rich and powerful would be dancing in the streets, but it is the poor who are more likely to do this. I also believe that stability is more likely from an experienced monarchy than from one president or another which would cost just as much and not help British businesses and charities half as much.

[@fionanov1948]

@@wendyturney8914 - Americans vote in a President - yes we have had trump - and the good news is that they can be voted OUT by the voters after four years and can only run for two terms.

[@susansmith6737]

@@wendyturney8914 Problem is that what we have now is not an "experienced" monarchy and it is falling apart.

[@eleanorwalmsley635]

​@@susansmith6737give him half a chance, Charles has only been on the throne for five minutes. All these conversations happend in the infancy of Queen Elizabeths reign. Look how that turned out. To say their falling apart is premature.

[@susansmith6737]

@@eleanorwalmsley635 Charles has been primed for this privileged position almost since birth and his mother was only 25 when she became Queen! Sadly Charles (just like his heir) has had an indulged and entitled lifestyle and in his case, his biggest problem in the eyes of the British public is Camilla. No amount of palace PR will make them acceptable to the British public. Charles did a wonderful thing is setting up "The Princes Trust" however his heir at the age of 41 has not achieved anything of merit. This institution can only go one way - downwards.

[@davebento1548]

11:12 Time to process grief ? How many millions of his subjects live in poverty and get up to go to work at 6am and can't afford any time off work to " process their grief " because their mum died because they have rent to pay and kids to feed ? How many thousands of their subjects won't have cancer diagnosed after super prompt medical attention but die of cancer undiagnosed while they were on two year NHS waiting lists for surgery. Why should subjects put up with that inequality simply because of an accident of birth ?

[@Kate-lk6tw]

Spot on

[@pancho1993]

She's Out Of Her Mind, she hasn't a clue.

[@gabriellecastillo8751]

Your absolutely spot on …

[@seanjones5682]

WELL SAID!

[@kismit100]

Rubbish, what have you done for your country apart from moan

[@dimitrabouzalas3090]

The hate and tearing others apart is coming from within the royal family itself, less so from the people.

[@jonathangratus233]

Two words which terrify the royal family. "Inheritance tax".

[@LivingLegendMe]

Add Corporation and business taxes to Charles´s terror.

[@anapantelic517]

It terrifies me too just quietly, and I don’t have anything near as much as they do.

[@jonathangratus233]

@anapantelic517 yes but you have to pay it, he doesn't

[@anapantelic517]

@@jonathangratus233 Yes, I’m aware of that.

[@Rosebud100]

When the Royal family stop getting so rich on taxpayer’s money and start paying taxes that the rest of us have to pay, then maybe I will feel warmer towards them.

[@dimitrabouzalas3090]

Catherine herself did not appear on video. That was an AI generated video.

[@roseannemain9957]

Never thought about that one.

[@kismit100]

@@roseannemain9957absolute nonsense and you know it

[@kismit100]

Unhinged individual

[@robynhoward3210]

You’re correct

[@margaretcaine4219]

​@@kismit100Nonsense? Look at it. It's out of focus. "She" is obviously reading from an autocue in a studio, in a very controlled, stilted voice. No movement in the background, which is also out of focus. "Her" flickering eyes. If that video isn't A.I. I'll walk to China! Even the shadows on the bench don't look quite right.

[@DREAMER-uq4gh]

I am surprised that a supposed intelligent women would not take notice of AI experts claiming [wit evidence] the bench scene being AI generated ??

[@cherfromtn8225]

Other "experts" also said it was real. I would be very surprised if the BBC created an AI video and claimed their famous videographer did it. That person is well known and would not have gone a long with such a lie. It is easy to call yourself an "expert" on the internet. On this one, I would go with the mainstream media. Personally, if the non-experts, I like The Black Barrister who did a video entitled, "Vile and False Rumors Debunked" or something like that. He answered every claim that the bench video was fake.

[@raia9]

@@cherfromtn8225 why wasnt William by her side?

[@cherfromtn8225]

@@raia9 If I were in the same spot, I would just be trying to hold it together long enough to get through the speech. Having my husband next to me, knowing that he is also upset, would not be helpful. A few people on YT noted this. William may have been off camera. Perhaps Catherine wanted him with the children. We don't know. I just think The Black Barrister video entitled "Vile and Awful Rumors" debunked the most common concerns in an easily understood way. It also makes no sense to me that the BBC (who have no love for the Monarchy or King Charles) would stage an elaborate hoax--one that would involve hundreds of people. They claimed their own videographer (one with a good reputation) did the filming. Why would this person allow his name to be abused in such a way? If something had happened to Catherine, it would be such a HUGE story, the BBC would not have covered it up. They would have made a fortune. I have also seen NO EVIDENCE of William's hot temper or affair--aside from Harry"s claims in Spare, and Harry shows signs of mental abnormally and also has an agenda.

[@pauljosephbuggle3722]

Zero sympathy from this Irishman. Hunger, poverty, internment, racism and opression are far worse.

[@georgesdelatour]

Russia and China didn't have any of those bad things once they got rid of their monarchs.

[@altinaykor364]

@@georgesdelatour non-Russian countries that were once part of Soviet union, will laugh at you and curse you upon reading this

[@altinaykor364]

@@georgesdelatour delusional

[@JaniAnders-vx6wx]

I agree. As a South African my boer tribe (women and children) was decimated in the English concentration camps on orders from the highrachy- when they couldn't subdue our few fighting men against the troops. The scorched earth policy was instituted by Kitchener. Absolutely unforgivenable. Being part Irish I hate what they also did to the Irish 😢.

[@roseannemain9957]

Snap from this Scot in this so called "voluntary" union from which there is no exit door.

[@ribz747]

Where's Kate? Ppl with cancer don't just disappear into thin air nor do their kids.. bizarre.

[@karlaparker7988]

Wonder if they have locked her up in a nuthouse? And why is Rose Hanbury with Chuck and Camilla

[@elizabethwallace-donnelly.2356]

Is she still alive?

[@deadandburied7626]

Leave Kate alone! If you had a major operation, was undergoing chemotherapy, and had 3 young children, would you be out and about 5 months later?

[@whitneyanders5945]

Yes! People keep living even with cancer. They don’t hide away. She could use her diagnosis for good and to raise awareness and funds for cancer charities. I know three people currently with cancer with one stage four terminal, and who also has kids and she has been living life, went overseas, had her last birthday surrounded by friends and family. Certainly not hiding away.

[@karlaparker7988]

@@whitneyanders5945 I totally agree, in my experience they absolutely go the other way and do more, I guess to not be beaten by the cancer and a realisation it can and does happen to anyone, so live their life to the full. I have never known anyone hide away ever.

[@ilechristian9124]

The reason the marriage fell appart was RELENTLESS CAMELLA....Camella never gave up...she wanted the throne and the Throne was Charles...

[@thegoat11111]

Poor Royal billionaires boo hoo. 😢

[@ManzelaManz-pk8zy]

The poor royal murderes😂😂😂😂

[@bobpearce8299]

These people of the RF are born of privilege and have money and desire nothing in life. Kate married into this family and knew good and well what was ecpected of her. Kate wanted the money, prestige, the title. Lady Diana was a ptecious beautiful soul. She had a wretched life with Camilla and Charles. Phillip was a cheating husband and not nice man Queen Elizabeth ll was not perfect either, no one is. She was rather cold woman who turned blind eye to many things and Andrew was her favorite child she had four total how could a mum have a favorite? Wills is quite un hinged right now drinking to much and going alone and about much like his father. These are people yes, but they are very wealthy and the taxpayers are their employment! That is why early colonists left and went to America. To be free!

[@LanternOneStudios]

"Treat people the way you want to be treated", yes? 24/7 news, smartphones, and social media are contributing to the decline of our collective humanity.

[@purelotusheart]

In the same way that it is said that the 'love of money is the root of all evil" it is the low character of a large swathe of human beings which is at the root of the human decline of our collective family not the tools of free speech.

[@joybanks1602]

Where's Kate? Do you know? Why is nobody coming forward. Personally, it seems clear to me she's no longer living.

[@John-nc4bl]

She repreented an old institution with a rotten history.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Like our left wing middle class then?

[@user-rb2qw5in7y]

very true , who aren't Anglo Saxon .

[@TesterAnimal1]

@@stephenholmes1036😂😂😂 is this all you have? It’s over.

[@wendyturney8914]

I imagine that almost all of us have ancestors who have done things we would not be proud of.

[@jillybe1873]

We need the lands and properties to be returned to the People from the duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster on their way out.

[@monicamailman3796]

Since Meghans ancestors on her dad's side are British and descended from the very ruler that created the Dutchy of Wales. So by rights Meghan should be their princess and the income. The lot of it. Hrh Meghan princess of Wales and Nigeria. Looks like she may be princess of all of Africa.

[@queenshaasiabeautifulearth2223]

@@monicamailman3796Nigerian Kings really bestowed Megan’s Birthright and the Uk really messed up big time.

[@sophiabee8924]

And the rest owned by the aristocracy

[@lennymac5915]

I'm Australian, so this only affects me as a citizen in a Commonwealth country, but I do wonder how many hungry and homeless people in the UK might do much better if a few of these outrages homes / castles were sold off. It's pure greed and most Brits accept it without question. And I should say, I was one of those Australians who voted to stay in the Commonwealth 25 years ago. Not so now, although we should just wait and watch the tower fall.

[@marianfrances3057]

⁠and when we watch the tower fall in London we will be watching similar on home soil in Australia. We are far better off under a constitutional monarchy than we would be under a Republic and a President as in the USA. Show me a republic right now that is doing wonderfully well anywhere in the world. Although things have slowed for us in Australia we are still better off than most in this world. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@janawall3306]

Where is Kate Middleton?

[@jeannesunshine8190]

Quelque soit notre sympathie pour elle c un être humain vous les anglais devrez réclamer des explications vu les impôts que vous payez.

[@MsPaulathomas]

I found this interesting. This institution cannot continue. As a country we have to grow up.

[@deadandburied7626]

Better Windsors than Trumps, Johnsons etc as "royals" 😅

[@risingphoenix8072]

@@deadandburied7626that is a very odd comparison. The UK should not be compared with the USA 😂

[@michaeladkins6]

@@risingphoenix8072 Who do you want to be compared to?

[@ValeriePhillips-lp3mx]

Well said point blank on the facts.

[@nene9791]

Why did Andrew retain his security despite costing them £12 million under very shameful disgraceful situation BUT THE SUSSEXES FOR SINGLED OUT FOR AN OPPRESDIVE DISCRIMINATORY TREATMENT. THINK RACE

[@RR-sp3ey]

Inherited political power and wealth should not be granted by a democratic country.

[@stephenholmes1036]

Is Mr Bliar included?

[@John-nc4bl]

@@stephenholmes1036 Blair had an annual salary of £147,819. Charles has an annual payment from the Duchy of Cornwall of approximately £20 million.

[@anapantelic517]

Firstly constitutional monarchs have no political power. Secondly the Duchy of Cornwall refers to his estates in that county and the money referred to is revenue from those estates. He inherited those estates, he owns them. So there is no inherited political power, and we all, including you, have the right to inherit property from our parents, or would you rather you were the only one, and everyone else was denied?

[@RR-sp3ey]

@@anapantelic517 what you said just proves my point. If I inherited that volume of property from my parents I would have to pay vast sums of inheritance tax. Charles legally pays none.

[@anapantelic517]

@@RR-sp3ey It doesn’t actually prove your point. You were saying he shouldn’t inherit, while you had no problem with your right to inherit. Your problem seems to be with his not paying inheritance taxes, while you are obliged to, like it or not. Though luck, I’m in the same boat as you. In this world there is something we have to get used to, which is, we were all created equal, but that some are more equal than others. They are “some” and we are “others”. I have found that if you don’t think about what you can’t change, the less it hurts.

[@moffattF]

Too many people are suffering because of austerity and other political measures-a situation ripe for revolution. We are well beyond the divine right of kings and social deference. Land of Hope and Glory does not compensate for “heat or eat” when the Royal family bask in unearned luxury.

[@ruizhiqiu2109]

UK is a constitutional monarchy - the king has no real power inmaking laws!

[@theonlymeaning]

Get together and vote in much better representatives from your districts! What's wrong with you all? The Royal Family does NOT make laws!

[@theonlymeaning]

The United Kingdom has a Constitutional Monarchy, it is centuries beyond any "Divine Right of Kings"....the UK is not "ripe for revolution" though some Marxists may well dream, for lack of any constructive project at hand...the greed and corruption of private companies controlling power and fuel are the public enemies you need to wake up to ! THEY are the ones pushing some to choose between "heat or eat".....the oil barons of BP for example....not little Princess Charlotte or her some would say "sadly destined" older brother.

[@CC-uq4hu]

@@theonlymeaningunofficially I would say the RF has influence…money and power talk

[@shawnscarratt8468]

Well said

[@FranzBieberkopf]

(To coin a phrase)Crisis, what crisis?. Nobody talks about the monarchy except journalists. I challenge anyone to tell me the last time someone raised this subject without prompting. Most people are indifferent to the Monarchy. Admittedly, I live just outside Liverpool, which has been called the outermost suburb of Dublin.

[@wendyturney8914]

The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme and The Prince's Trust are only two examples of organisations/trusts which have helped literally thousands of young people into careers, decent lives or interests. The participants probably don't talk about the monarchy, as you rightly say, but their influence is important and I doubt if a Head of State would do these things. I don't think a HofS would be able to generate so much income for charity or British business either as hopefully they would be too busy with government duties.

[@serengeti4023]

The woman said: 14:21 that Harry should hand in his title. Does she not know that Harry offered to give back his title? ***That said... giving back the title of Duke is nothing - Harry will always be a Prince and a Prince will always outrank the title of a Duke***

[@MTknitter22]

Does it MATTER? To the Royals, the crowns, titles, who wore what piece of jewelry is EVERYTHING. I doubt if it all is to Harry anymore - no Royal who was greedy (like Andrew) would EVER have risked losing it and leaving. Most do whatever they must to even GET IN the family, they would never leave it. Harry and children are Royal heirs and that shall never change.

[@teresabelshaw4262]

No he never liar😂

[@barryd99999]

DNA tests are required.

[@sandyno1089]

Old Megsy would leave h without the Duchess title.

[@miriamhavard7621]

​@@sandyno1089 you know her, do you?

[@brendacampbell180]

It should be long over. The money that is wasted is unbelievable

[@DingodileinCahoots]

Is it the same in other countries? It seems as if the other European royals don’t have to go through as much as the British, but I could be wrong. Another way to look at it though is..they get a hounded, if they choose to read the garage, but they also get to live in palaces, drip in jewels, fly in helicopters and wear clothes that are worth a normal persons car or house. I wouldn’t cry too much for them.

[@TesterAnimal1]

They’ve been put into place. The Dutch royals bike their kids to school. It’s only the Brits who GROVEL.

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

The other royal houses cost "only" 50 million sterling to maintain. The British Royals cost 500 million.

[@francescaderimini2931]

As an American who lived in the UK for 10 yrs and who’s Family did not see the need of the British Royal Family I am a supporter of them if only for the money they bring in! It’s different with smart phones but back in the day 1980’s the foreigners buying tools of film standing outside Buckingham Palace everyday was enormous! The film, the development of the film, the tea cans etc. was a way people made their living.

[@susansmith6737]

The British RF is THE most expensive RF in Europe.

[@whitneyanders5945]

No one goes to the UK these days for the royals. Maybe back in the 80s when things were different but certainly not now. All those weird old ladies who were obsessed with buying all the merch were from Diana’s time. They’d all be dead now.

[@joeblow4410]

It was queen Elizabeth choice: for Harry and his wife to either serve full-time or not at all.y thought it was a bully technique. Then the nasty press (including Peirce Morgan) treating Harry as he hurt the queen, Harry could do no right. Thanks for being fair.

[@carolamsterdam9558]

According to Spare, the PC and PW made that decision, along with the bee, the wasp and the fly.

[@user-xk3hk4xt5i]

The Queen made that decision Her word was it. The Queen asked Harry to Balmoral before she died ,and he said he was too busy. We all knew she wouldn't last long. But he couldn't make the time. Then all the fuss when she died because Megan wanted to go. So he misses the plane.

[@kamso9269]

⁠​⁠@@carolamsterdam9558is the monarchy not supposed to be the head??? Or is it the bees, the wasps along with the flies?

[@kamso9269]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@user-xk3hk4xt5iwhat is “…the Queen asked Harry to Balmoral before she died, and he said he was too busy???”

[@300books]

@user-xk3hk4xt5i: That is a lie. The queen invited Harry and Meghan to Balmoral while they were still living in England. Harry & Meghan were all set to go when they received a call from the queen's assistant telling them NOT to come because the queen's schedule would not permit it. The assistant canceled the invitation. Get your story straight.

[@SamyTheSheep]

Expecting others to present themselves immaculately, and tearing them apart when they don't - is this not getting to the core of the British psyche?

[@gwendolinelindsay4647]

Exactly!!The British people will support the underdog until they become successful, then they turn round and tear them down. It’s been demonstrated many many times. 😢

[@SunnyGallivanter]

@@gwendolinelindsay4647 I think our uniquely malevolent tabloid media has done a lot to shape British public attitudes, mostly for the worst.

[@ginadeacon9920]

Too many like sheep still look that way, the Media for guidance, without looking at the source of the influence. Puppets.

[@anapantelic517]

@@gwendolinelindsay4647 I wonder if ‘Tall Poppy’ syndrome has something to do with it. We in Australia, are not unfamiliar with it either.

[@lizziestevenson1908]

One reason offered for Kathrine's announcement was that her health records were breached at the hospital.

[@carswatches9073]

Don't believe she has cancer. That video is SO generated. She can 't speak coherently. Stop insulting your subjects!

[@fionanov1948]

I would hope that she would use her illness to help others and bring awareness of what can/cannot be done.

[@whitneyanders5945]

It was easy to pick she had cancer the moment the statement was released saying ‘it’s not cancer’. Her cancer is likely far worse than they are making out and she probably has a colostomy bag which is not very Royal.

[@jeannesunshine8190]

Le terme vos sujets est horripilant

[@user-nw3yh9hj9u]

I have never dreamt of any member of the royal family, the treatment of their wives has been appalling and cruel and probably set the tone of how many men treat their wives in this country.

[@MaliKamicak]

She was speaking about how PUBLIC treats women in that family.

[@roseanncampbell3168]

​@@MaliKamicak but even so, if the men really cared about their wives they would stand up for them publicly, not allow them to be abused by the British media then the public

[@MTknitter22]

Me either. They really are more like celebrities, albeit preeminent ones in our modern day. Nobody wants to admit it but only the very elder monarchists and elites look on the RF as people nearly Godlike.

[@captaintorch983]

@@roseanncampbell3168 Well I think I treated my wife well. At this moment I miss her so much, I cannot say!

[@roseanncampbell3168]

@@captaintorch983 sorry for your loss. I'm sure you treated your wife well, but the men in the royal family don't treat their wives well except to pose in public

[@DonnaHolt-ge6om]

Investigations into Russian money continues into the aristocratic levels in Britain.

[@wendyturney8914]

I don't support a particular political system, I support good honest honourable men and women wherever they are to be found. All systems would work if given support and the country is put first.

[@nickkowal6537]

Pretty sure it's the monarchy's relationship with the people of the UK that's in crisis not the other way around

[@jolist3721]

The older generation was taught to sing and praise the Queen and to grieve for members of the royal family when they passed away... The younger generation questions more, and see the indifference.

[@Guloren-rd5bj]

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[@user-qd8md4tq1q]

BOLLOX!

[@sandyno1089]

Agreed. We are no longer brainwashed to worship a dysfunctional royal family.

[@altinaykor364]

or maybe mind to their own bloody business and behave like human beings for any other human being (even if they're royalty) not too emotional and not too cold. instead of rambling cringe cliches

[@sandyno1089]

@@user-qd8md4tq1q Thankfully the younger generation isn't being brainwashed into loving the royals.

[@maria610421]

Charles is said to have Pancreatic Cancer, if he has Cancer at all.

[@rodpettet2819]

One law for them, one law for us. Sorry pay them off, they've all got to go.

[@anapantelic517]

Whoever replaced them, whoever and/or whatever, nothing but the amount of money they brought into the country would change. It was worse under Oliver Cromwell, and people soon welcomed the return of the monarchy. Read up on it. Look as well at today’s government. It’s not doing too well, and chances are that the monarchy would be replaced by some corrupt politician. Do you want that, because it’s what you would get. As for paying them off as you suggest….. come in out of the sun.

[@jasonaaron2542]

The monarchy went with the passing of Queen Elizabeth.

[@Purple_flower09]

Ought to have ended it on a high note

[@DeborahWalkerXOXO]

We have entered Jumped the Shark territory of the monarchy...

[@lourencodaarrabida]

And very few people noticed it...

[@khar12d8]

The monarchy will last for generations yet, long into the future. There's no way we are anywhere close to the political reality of becoming a republic.

[@captaintorch983]

"Her Majesty" if you don't mind!

[@nahlaahmani6739]

Fairly sure I never dreamt about Elizabeth or any other member of the royal family

[@francesbarratt993]

You probably will now 🤣🤣

[@AndyRossism]

Very selective. Oh poor King Edward ! Never mind the fact him and his awful wife were facist sympathisers ! Thak God he was put under pressure to pack it in.

[@marilynwillett804]

I lived in London, the brits live in very old drafty cold apts, food is very expensive, the yards are extremely small, your neighbors are too close and people absolutely can never get ahead. They talk about free medical, I guess if you wait months for a procedure, I heard their health scheme is going bankrupt due to millions of immigrants, seriously I thought my plane landed in pakistan.

[@jeannesunshine8190]

Évidemment les immigrants sont toujours responsables de la mauvaise gestion d’un état faites un retour dans le temps vous comprendrez le pourquoi de leurs présence en Europe . Avoir dilapidé les richesses de certains pays le karma rentre en action voici le résultat et vous oublier qu’ils feront les tâches que vous trouverez subalternes.

[@johnvaleanbaily246]

I have never, in my life, dreamt about any member of the Royal Family. How ridiculous. I do object to being labelled a 'subject'. I emigrated 40+ years ago, not so much because of the monarchy, but because of the repressive tax system (1 for you 19 for me) at the time followed on by the ever creeping and Orwellian intrusions from camera to legal limitations being put upon fundamental freedoms. The country can be summed up by the results from the introduction of the 1989 Water Privatization Act: A Sh!thöle.

[@georgesdelatour]

Where did you emigrate to?

[@margaretcaine4219]

Nor have I ever had a dream in which any member of that family has featured.

[@jacquelinebrunet1257]

Oui cette Monarchie est maudite depuis le mariage de Charles avec sa maitresse après la mort de Diana épouse bafouée S il est vrai que charles et camilla etaient fous amoureux pourquoi ne pas divorcer au lieu d un mariage à trois Pourquoi charles etant amoureux d une autre a accepté de se marier et apres faire souffrir sa femme Je disais donc il y a une malédiction car charles et camilla vivent dans le péché car ils ont commis l adultère se sont mariés et charles est pourtant chef de l Eglise chose qui est totalement à l'encontre du règlement Depuis la mort de la Reine Elizabeth les langues se delient les britanniques sensés disent ce qu ils pensent et sont scandalisés par ce qui se passe C est la Reine qui gerait tous ses sujets Il y a des lois feodales complètement désuètes et qui ne correspondent plus au 21eme siecle Mais bon c est aux britanniques de decidet de leur sort Si ils veulent envore payer pour des gens qui ne servent rien pour le peuple C est mon avis

[@glendakirby5579]

@@jacquelinebrunet1257 Diana was selected as a brood mare,it is as basic as that. There have been no British Monarchs for generations.Most of them have the morality of alley cats.

[@helensimpson2816]

The kibg doesnt have cancer,they are trying to get attention awway from Willliam and his hurting Princess Catherine

[@roseannemain9957]

Had not thought of that.

[@KateWoodehouse]

@@roseannemain9957. Because it’s nonsense

[@pmcgktr]

Oh boo boo their lives are so hard. Give me a fvçking break

[@TesterAnimal1]

You’re in violent agreement then? 😂

[@EMG-pi4cb]

You really need to re-read "Spare". Harry did NOT say he "loved" being shot at. He was told by WIlliam and the two other kids that if he didn't get in the car and go now, they would start shooting at him right there. That's how twisted it was. You also need to go back regarding the timeline for Diana and read/hear Diana's comments LONG before the Bashir interview. She felt she was being "watched" -- which was correct as we now know from the phone-hacking, tracking, blagging--not to mention the "men in gray suits" that has come to light. However, at the time, she was labeled as "paranoid" to discredit her valid-- and eventually lethal-- concerns.

[@Vtrack-qx6dh]

There is much more to that story then the public could possibly imagine. Please do not believe all from especially Meghan and Harry. They are far from innocent in their methods and intentions. Many around Diana understood other secrets that ought to have not been covered up to such extremes and for history to repeat - not for Meghan but for another whom Meghan had serious stalking, bullying, and harassing patterns since childhood. They remained sticking to old patterns of dark methods to maintain their gains and fraud whilst rebranding and hoping to win interest through machine that they have both always abused. Most of what does resonate with public is actually being sourced from supply that has been trauma bonded and manipulated in the highest ways imaginable.

[@glendakirby5579]

I think the 'twistedness' of the Royals and their group go far beyond what is so far released, we are being slowly drip fed. We should be told the truth, it should have ended with the Queen, I think to all intent and purpose it probably did.

[@richmaniow]

There's certainly been a huge change in dynamic since the queen's death, although Elizabeth had no choice about becoming queen she embraced it to the hilt. The 1950's was a time when most women's ambitions were quashed and they had to return to the kitchen and go back to being housewives after the relative freedoms and opportunities during WW2. Elizabeth jumped at the chance to have a career and travel the world, becoming queen gave her an enormous amount of freedom for the time. For prince Charles the opposite was true, he's spent most of his adult life in the queen's shadow. By all accounts he had a miserable childhood spent mostly in boarding schools, he was then forced into military service which he hated and while his contemporaries went off and forged their own careers he knew he had no choice in the matter. So for Charles royalty has been a straight jacket and we had glimpses of his frustration with the whole palaver during the coronation. Whether the royal family survives beyond William and Kate is hard to say, it does feel increasingly irrelevant especially to younger people. The whole situation with "photoshop gate" also gave Wills and Kate a taste of how quickly the media can turn nasty, it'll definitely leave a bad taste in the mouth and like Harry, they could well decide one day, it isn't worth the hassle..

[@theonlymeaning]

Harry hasn't been "worth the hassle". He's an empty suit.

[@tracesprite6078]

Harry courageously left the royals nonsense behind and claimed his right to freedom. I hope that William and Catherine will do the same. The facial expressions of their children show how they hate being on display like shop mannequins, just as we all would.

[@fionanov1948]

@@theonlymeaning - an “empty suit” (your words) does not deserve the brit gutter press, the brit gossip salivating public, the grey suited firm and family leaks, the royal sources, etc. throwing out slurs and lies about H. It is a national pastime of hate which we hope our children do not emulate. Thankfully the “suit” has chosen a better place!

[@susanallison5101]

Harry was tortured when he had to walk behind his dead mother.

[@LivingLegendMe]

Both boys were used to prevent an enraged public from booing Charlres. It was a shameful thing to do to them.

[@cherfromtn8225]

I believe in Spare Harry says he wanted to do it. It was expected that William would go, but Harry might be too young. Harry wanted to do this. In many places, as I understand it, people walking behind the coffin in a procession is common.

[@aandjmom1]

Harry is definitely happy NOW. He is always smiling, and laughing while hanging with his FAMILY! Then again he LEFT THE RF!

[@veronicanicholls7132]

They spend so much time with their children lol lol lol lol Couple of grifters.

[@fionanov1948]

@@veronicanicholls7132 - working parents are smart when they can choose their own professional path and spend time with their children. It is called being an adult!

[@diane4488]

He almost always looks moody, and angry, when I've seen him. I think someone had serious words with him, before the Nigerian Fake Royal Tour, because it's the first time I've seen him smile, for a long time. They are constantly, and aggressively competing with the Royal Family, at every turn, and do their very best to try and ruin all the big Royal Events of the year. That doesn't smack of being happy, to me. Quite the reverse. Angry, bitter, and deluded, is what I see.

[@carmennadel65]

​​@diane4488 lyer!!! Or you talking about Willie?

[@bobpearce8299]

I'm happy Harry is living finally out of the miserable clutches of the so called RF! He is the smart one, and happiest Wills is the one who looks so dreadfully miserable and becoming a drunkard!

[@23merlino]

in my opinion belief in the monarchy is one of the things holding britain back...

[@jmolofsson]

Strange, that monarchy doesn't seem to hold Norway or Denmark back.

[@user-fg8it6kp3e]

lets have johnson instead.

[@23merlino]

@@jmolofsson - i wasn't talking about norway or denmark, strange that...

[@23merlino]

@@user-fg8it6kp3e - the troll is back in town...

[@user-fg8it6kp3e]

@@23merlino stating the obvious hun.

[@user-ry9uj4xl5i]

Isn’t it about time we called time on this outdated family. We’re not GREAT Britain anymore.

[@geraldineanneboyd9165]

"Great Britain" always = a geographical expression. Nothing to do with power, might or exceptional qualties

[@marciawhite2549]

😂

[@HelenBain-th9nm]

Would you rather have Sunack as a head of state! 🥹

[@user-ry9uj4xl5i]

@@HelenBain-th9nm no, there both useless.

[@altinaykor364]

cringe

[@lakiva1000]

Its Talk TV show and GB news bullying Meghan the worst just my opinion

[@ThePixey1000]

Some people just hate the truth 🤐

[@user-bv6rn5hp7p]

The only one doing the bullying is Megan. Her behavior was appauling,rude abrassive and bossy Harry 's behavior got worse after he married Mehan

[@xxx-iz4uq]

​@@user-bv6rn5hp7pReally. Piers bullied her every single day on national TV. As well as well tabloids. The hate campaign started way before they left. She got death threats before & after the wedding. Her baby depicted as a chimp on the front page of a national newspaper. You have to feel it to know it. Leaking from the palace. Who made who cry. Tiaragate.

[@user-rt9xu4zu9d]

@user-bv6rn5hp7p The trolling ‘ bullying of Megan is pathetic and the world is disgusted by it! To treat Andrew better than Megan shows the racism. Harry & Megan cost the taxpayers nothing and they are living their best life but when you only read the Daily Fail you wouldn’t know that. Why would Harry want to be around his Dad’s mistress who made his mother’s life a misery? Why are you not bothered about where Kate is?

[@maxine3353]

@@user-bv6rn5hp7pTotally agree. A lot of people choose not to pay attention to her toxic behaviour which I find extremely worrying.

[@bernardmaasdijk734]

"They all left" talking about the crowns of Europe after the First World War. Of the top of my head I can think of some European royal houses that were then and still are supplying the heads of state of Norway, Denmark, Sweden, The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain. There may be some that survived WWI but disappeared during the following 100 years. Italy and Greece come to mind.

[@margaretcaine4219]

The main ones to not survive were the Habsbergs when the Austro-Hungarian Empire dissolved.

[@PG-ts9xz]

Well said. Princess Margaret's children do have titles but not royal ones.

[@junecoleman9030]

They don’t need titles to get rich …everyone knows who they are …they are as well connected as they would be plus a title

[@jimschannel2220]

I’m a royal fan…of King Harold. This lot came over in 1066 and stole the lot.

[@CC-uq4hu]

Exactly ❤that are thieves…research the Russian cousins and their jewels…who got them and how

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

Not implanted by foreign bankers?

[@margaretcaine4219]

No, this lot came over from the Netherlands (William of Orange) when it looked as though a Catholic, God forbid!, would inherit the throne. William and his family didn't even speak English but they were protestants, so that was OK.

[@barbarapiper477]

Wiliam has major issues

[@karmad4491]

Which may be the reason why Kate vanished.

[@susansmith6737]

His major issue is that he is LAZY and has achieved nothing to date.

[@wambugumassive]

Well articulated analysis of what I've thought for years... I once met the Duke of Edinburgh (Philip), on our school playing field. (We were doing a "Duke of Edinburgh Awards thingamajig") He only showed interest in the prettiest female of our particular group. (I guess he was 50 plus, as it was around 1978, whilst our particular group were around 15 at the time). I assume the "alleged" misdeeds of his second son were inherited from his own "alleged" partiality for young "nymphs", learnt from his uncle, Louis Mountbatten. The list goes on... I've always been skeptical of an institution that requires that we are referred to as "subjects". These people are just as human as the rest of us [and] often are no better, living off wealth and privilege. It's about time the monarchy was "put out to pasture". Unfortunately, like Tanya Gold suggests, it's going to take a real crisis before the British public wakes up to the reality. As for Harry, I think she's right in saying he showed courage in publicly holding their collective feet to the fire! I haven't read "Spare", however. I don't think there's anyone I could hate more than Piers Morgan who is apparently on a sycophantic "royalist" crusade to bash the "Sussexes", so I'll always be on Harry's side, even if that doesn't make me popular with the majority of "Union Jack" wavers. It may explain that I've chosen to live in Kenya (and don't really relish the thought of moving back to the UK right now).

[@bbm-lu6bj]

Love Kenya and Kenyans.

[@susanallison5101]

Well said. And what about the fact that Mountbatten advised a young Prince Charles to play the field but to marry a virgin! Hence Diana comes in and you know the rest. Tampaxgate etc. What a shower. Once a monarch is crowned he/she is divine. They should go.

[@georgesdelatour]

@@susanallison5101 No one thinks that King Charles is divine, nor are they required to think so. You’re thinking of Communist North Korea, where the Kim family have become deities.

[@lee-annbryce97]

I don’t believe Prince Phillip stepped out on the Queen, tell me when and which who me??🇦🇺

[@lee-annbryce97]

@@susanallison5101That’s how it was then very old fashioned,, it’s certainly not like that now even the royals have paved their own paths as far as marriage is concerned?🇦🇺

[@giuliettamassina7787]

Everything points to it being time to end that ridiculous way of life.

[@lakiva1000]

Yes the UK media did bully Meghan.😢😢😢

[@ThePixey1000]

@lakiva1000 NO they did not I am from the UK the Media were more than welcoming to MM so stop spreading Fake information people that spread melicous lies destroy the world wide web.

[@kirstenandreasen908]

NO they didnt

[@battlep0t]

The fact that UK media treated her and Harry as more problematic than Prince Andrew who was close to Jeffrey Epstein and was allegedly part of his sex trafficking ring. And they wonder why the younger generation don't respect the Royal family.

[@Caro-ys4kk]

@@kirstenandreasen908Yes they did.

[@s6352]

Britain absolutely did! SHAME ‼️

[@gordonbradley3241]

Who ARE these bloody people ? WHAT are these bloody people ? ? WHY are these bloody people ? ? ?

[@josephsgroi4474]

I think one of the things the made Queen Elizabeth good at her job was that she was a a young woman during WW II. I recently had the thought that Harry, probably subconsciously, chose Megan to provide an out! You’re the only person I’ve heard say this.

[@hopegreen9027]

NO it was because all anyone had were the news! media under queens rule

[@hopegreen9027]

queen gave the go ahead for dines unalived! shewas after all dating a muslim

[@eleanorwalmsley635]

@@hopegreen9027 absolute nonsense. More like the landmine campaign, whoever was profiting from that was Dianas downfall.

[@user-oi3mz8gs2c]

Good thing that Harry escaped

[@hopegreen9027]

yes however he beleives in constriction of free speech in case pps gets piissed of with his meagain !wife he,s no better than epstein whom his wife worked for he just wants the glory

[@susandelongis885]

I’ve rarely seen anyone bend so much truth to try to prove her points.

[@Judyri]

William said within recent time that his mother was paranoid. Adult William said that. 🤔

[@sugarplumk2381]

William is the biggest liability in the royal family right now, assuming they keep Andrew out of sight.

[@juliaw7533]

Wow, obviously indoctrinated. Very disappointing

[@hopegreen9027]

AND NOW HE WILL BE SAYING HIS WIFE IS

[@juliaw7533]

William is obviously an indoctrinated non believer. How disappointing.

[@anapantelic517]

For every victim there is at least one perpetrator, she was a victim, William should make some effort to recognize this, then point his finger at at the perpetrators and make sure he doesn’t become one himself.

[@davidbarrett590]

Absolutely outstanding even by the NS's KZbin Standards. Tanya expresses so well what a lot of educated and progressive Britons feel. I suspect the time has come to do something about it.

[@janebennett8097]

Try looking at real problems and not just attacking the monarchy. obviously you will be happier when there are more muslim. leaders like the one shouting alluah akabad in Leeds. . There are enough warnings that this is the way we are heading.

[@davidbarrett590]

Jane - This is supposed to be an opportunity to comment on the item discussed which I did. Frankly, if you do not think it is a relevant issue take that up with NS not me. Inferring that I hold the views you impute to me on another issue is simply wrong and it is rude.

[@LowellBDennyIII]

Much overwrought handwringing here! This is the monarchy that George V built. A public, ribbon-cutting family on display. Maybe this is all one can expect in a modern, democratic age. But the function of monarchy was to protect and guide the nation - this is a political role with political functions. Britain doesn't want that, so George V's alternative is what you've got, and what that family has been performing for more than 100 years. So, you can't cry "torture" now. No, no.

[@cassandratq9301]

Excellent point.

[@lizziestevenson1908]

I believe the country dodged a large bullet with the Windsor character who was rather fond of the Nazis. I believe they were relieved to be able to get rid of him using Wallace's status.

[@williamf4544]

Who knows - Maybe just maybe there would have been no World War 2

[@kuukuabaidoo-sagoe91]

monarchy = Nazi. check their history closely. not british. they only threw Wallace and husband under the bus to keep people from getting at them. why was their name changed to WINDSOR?

[@nene9791]

He IS HAPPY NOW SO STOP USING HARRY AS YOUR EXAMPLE. THE SAD ONE IS THE PRINCE WHO IS SLWAYS INCANDESCENT WITH RAGE

[@ChuffingNorah]

Seems like someone has cancelled me, because I had the temerity to object to the Monarchy?

[@lindajacomb344]

You do realise that SPARE is Harry's version of HIS truth not THE truth.

[@christinemcclain9003]

It would be interesting if this whole monarchy will just go away they dont serve a purpose they have the best of everything while so many in this country are staving and homeless.get rid of this sham of a monarchy

[@ifeyhome]

I was quite ambivalent about the monarchy, however what's changed that is the vile treatment & daily bullying of Meghan by the British media & online trolls. I now would like to see the monarchy abolished!

[@captaintorch983]

It never will be, so get used to it. Even on this loony left site, there are comparatively few pro republican comments. Except from the author who is not British anyway, and is therefore irrelevant.

[@robertdarby6553]

@@captaintorch983 I sense a note of desperation from you and your ilk. As Tanya said, the support for the monarchy from young people is minimal. It is only a matter of time...

[@SkeletonDrums1]

@@captaintorch983 out of touch commenter, the monarchy will be gone in my lifetime!

[@ifeyhome]

@captaintorch983 lol...long before abolishment of the monarchy, comes indifference. That is what really scares the Royal Family. They know the state is on their side, however demographics mean they are becoming far less important & relevant to the British public as time goes by. The media know this too, hence the manic obsession with Harry & Meghan (fear) & their need to destroy them.

[@ifeyhome]

@SkeletonDrums1 maybe so, but they will become totally irrelevant to the British public. The BIGGEST thing that scares the Royals is indifference and this is the direction of travel.

[@robertprice2148]

Charles waits all his life to get a job and as soon as does, he puts his sick note in.😧

[@bromillemorrison]

Robert... 😊😊😊😊.

[@user-vl1tw4by3r]

He still greets presidents. Commonwealth reps Red boxes and much more. Hope you never get Cancer.

[@user-vl1tw4by3r]

Rubbish I went to Balmoral it was nothing like that after the Queen died. There were even cute Corgis in the windows. The scenery was beautiful.

[@robertprice2148]

@@user-vl1tw4by3r Camilla you are a little bit biased. I hope that no one gets cancer, as well.

[@heatheryearwood9199]

He'd be retired ....what would he continue working for? He'd be entitled to a jolly good pension, and he has his fine gardens and his water colouring to occupy his time. What a lovely man he is ...to stay as a King for his loyal subjects instead.😊

[@anonnymous4684]

They missed a trick by not acquiescing to Harry and Meghan wishes. For good or for ill, they would have ensured interest in the royal family for another generation. Meghan represented a new era - modernity - and would have happily played the role of the celebrity royal. The other family members seem stilted and old fashioned in comparison and no one under the age of 30-ish has any reason - or desire - to invest in them. Without Meghan, the royal family is facing (barely) managed decline and the point of obsolescence could materialise far sooner than many imagine.

[@Himmiefan]

Exactly. Being a person of color, Meghan would appeal to the Commonwealth, the majority of which are people of color. Meghan and Harry are charismatic and reportedly are both down to earth and mix well with a variety of people. Frankly, Meghan was an outsider who came in and did the job better than the dusty, must dull, and duller royals save Harry, so why have a royal family?The jealous royals couldn’t tolerate Meghan’s popularity and success, that, so they attacked her through the press.

[@Kate-lk6tw]

Absolutely true. So self destructive and perverse

[@cyber_rachel7427]

Amen. Diana could have held the interest of Millenials, Meghan could have held the interest of Millenials and Gen Z. Pure celebrity worship, of course, but it's true Chumbawumba is going to be right after all: goodbye to the Crown!

[@ianfromthephilippines]

After Charles, all bets are off. And in two year time, president boris johnson. Sounds like a joke until it isn’t

[@lynxo5695]

The hostile British tabloid press just didn't like Meghan and looked for dirt on her at every given opportunity. The RF didn't support her or contradict the lies printed because they were afraid the press would eventually turn on them - risking the entire institution.

[@Sparrowdean]

The essayist appears not to know how the title thing works. Under the British system, titles are passed down through the male line, not the female (exception being a Queen). Therefore, it's not the case that Margaret's children have no title because of her intervention. Upon their marriage, her husband was offered an earldom, and he took it, so her children are titled. Her son is the Earl of Snowdon, and her daughter is Lady Sarah. In the case of Princess Anne, her husband was offered a title upon their marriage, but he declined it. So, because he is untitled, there were no titles to convey to his children. This is the reason why Anne's children are untitled.

[@tracesprite6078]

Titles!!! What nonsense titles are !!! Your Majesty!!! Seriously??? Your Highness???? No human is higher than another human. We are all trying to cope with life on our overcrowded, lonely planet - the only inhabited planet we know of. We are in an utterly weird situation. We're more self-aware than all the other living things on this planet but we have to create meanings for ourselves to help motivate ourselves. The idea of a monarchy served the rich and powerful very well but is outdated now.

[@bobpearce8299]

The royals were actually German, changed name for this reason.

[@lmusima3275]

Very accurate description of the RF and the relationship they have with the media.

[@bearsbreeches]

What did the Queen (autocorrect always changes that to a capital Q) ever do for her 'subjects'. Women's position in society, child poverty, inequality etc, etc

[@captaintorch983]

O for God's sake, another loony! The monarch does not have to do anything for his or her subjects. In fact they are actively expected not to involve themselves in matters of state or governance.

[@bearsbreeches]

@captaintorch983 thank you for the insult. I do understand constitutional monarchy but she could have shown some interest otherwise WHAT ARE THEY FOR? Will charles ride out at the head of his army in time of war? They are parasites

[@bearsbreeches]

@captaintorch983 resort to insults and you've already lost the argument. I understand constitutional monarchy but they could show empathy occasionally. Come the day Charles rides out in front of his army, they might seem relevant otherwise just a load of parasites.

[@tobeytransport2802]

@@captaintorch983so what is their purpose then? They are not supposed to be actively involved… so they are a very expensive statue?? Even the President of Ireland who is a largely ceremonial Head of State makes (non partisan) commentary on important issues close to his heart without meddling in party politics and he costs the Irish about €5 million per year as opposed to Britains £80 million if you take the official figure though it is estimated to cost more… and what is even better about the Irish president, the people chose him and he can be impeached from office for offences as well!!

[@fionanov1948]

@@captaintorch983 - they have a privileged platform - not earned but handed to them on a tawdry silver platter - and will ‘speak up’ (!) during choreographed photo ops in order to be seen (as the queen would say) in the hope for some relevancy. There are other issues than “state or governance” which can be addressed.

[@patricia247able]

Kates shoulders grew despite her cancer diagnosis which is hopeful, I suppose.

[@margarettaft2944]

In that video in the striped sweater her hair grew about 5 inches in less than 3 months

[@snezc6845]

@@margarettaft2944 That video was an IA - not real ...

[@DeirdreMcNamara]

@@snezc6845 correct. pretty incompetent job too, as if someone either wanted us to know there was more to the story...OR...they were contemptuous of the general public to do a proper job.

[@hangforh6320]

the queen is dead! now end the monarchy

[@Purple_flower09]

They could have ended it on a high.

[@anonb0]

Exactly none of the others are needed now, should let the era end already.

[@sandraflores3175]

Well said.

[@sandyno1089]

@@Purple_flower09 Yes, old Charley is a wet fish.

[@wendyturney8914]

But we still live in a democracy and most of us don't want to. Everyone has a right to their views so if you don't like them, you don't have to follow their news.

[@anyatranter5588]

No its not the same as Diana at all.Diana was bullied and hounded Katie was an object of worry and concern for her welfare.People are still worried and do not think the weird bench video was genuine.

[@ManzelaManz-pk8zy]

Diana was murdered toooooo

[@cherfromtn8225]

You apparently have not been reading the posts on the Sussex Squad channels. They hate Catherine, no question. Watch The Vintage Read video "An anti-Catherine, Princess of Wales, Narrative?" If you can stomach it, watch "Tisa tells."

[@helenclark2104]

The monarchy died when the queen died

[@mtmt9899]

The price the royal people pay to hold on to their wealth and security.

[@simmoneb4524]

Such a crock. Look at history for goodness sake! It’s no different to the things the royal family has been through for centuries!

[@hogunade]

Thank you for saying that; that Harry's book is really a whistleblower's report. Spot on.

[@SkeletonDrums1]

The Royal Family PR has done an amazing job of painting him as the villain

[@deadandburied7626]

Harry forever! ❤

[@joannebaker4925]

​@deadandburied7626 I agree 👍 💯. He's the most normal,relatable, and down to earth out of the clan.

[@nc8939]

He's a real whistle-blower. Wonderful description.

[@Judyri]

@@nc8939truth teller, he is. 👍🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@anapantelic517]

When all is said and done this claptrap is the opinion and ramblings of one person. It’s not necessarily accurate or factual, and carries all the biases of that particular individual. Take it for what it’s worth… not a lot.

[@helveticaification]

This woman is daft. Princess Catherine was thanking the public for the manifold messages of good will and good wishes for her recovery. Thousands. She very wisely chose to ignore all the other noise from other people - many of whom had a financial interest in perpetuating the multiplying doom-laden rumours and speculations which served only to increase readership. and viewing figures. She is part of that rabble herself. And presumably, like her interlocutor, she is getting paid for her article and this present 'performance'.

[@karmad4491]

The video was AI. It wasn't real.

[@talentvarvara8515]

Noone saw Catherine in public since Dec 25th 2023...

[@talentvarvara8515]

Noone saw C in public after 25th dec

[@bearsbreeches]

Hereditary monarchy stretched to the limits? The Scottish Stuarts, the Hanoverians, SaxeCoburgs .....

[@adamisherwood6708]

Yes I consider that the ghost of feudalism is producing a glass ceiling in education, politics, banking and other areas that hold themselves apart from The Great Unwashed. I consider this a drag on the energy and dynamism of the country.

[@bobsingh7949]

That was as wise and sober a description I have heard about England and the Royal Family I have heard.

[@stevo728822]

What annoys many people is that they don't have to wait in the NHS queue for treatment like everyone else.

[@williamf4544]

So neither does Jane Mc Donald or Angela RIppon and millions of other people - Thats how it is for all people with a bit of cash - Guess we would all do the same - So i dont get your point really

[@quinnitaj4653]

​@williamf4544 I don't either.. If I had the cash to go private I would and all my family. If you were truly honest you would. You so called point is pointless..

[@williamf4544]

@@quinnitaj4653 What you said makes the original posters comments even more pointless though

[@martinrobinson9061]

Time for the Royal Family to go.

[@davidalderson7761]

President Farage or Rees-Mogg or worse is the problem though

[@SkeletonDrums1]

@@davidalderson7761 whoever Murdock picks to promote in his rags

[@col.hertford9855]

@@davidalderson7761 if that’s who the country want, currently we could get another Nazi sympathiser without any say in it. It was only the fact Edward married a divorcee that prevented it. Also, who says we need a presidential system? Why not have a head of state like Ireland, mainly ceremonial with a couple of constitutional safeguards. Take the proroguing of Parliament, an elected head of state could have told them no, it’s unconstitutional.

[@audreymcgready4329]

Way over time.

[@davidalderson7761]

@@SkeletonDrums1 and that’s the problem of changing the way it is now. I would rather be stuck with what we have unfortunately.

[@twingytwango6971]

William was interested in another woman and she turned him down, he actually wanted to propose to another woman in Africa but she refused to go to Africa so he sent for the second best, Catherine.

[@talentvarvara8515]

Why do you know it?

[@bearsbreeches]

The Queen went on for too long. I never dreamt of any of them

[@Sparrowdean]

Nor I. Why on earth would anyone?

[@altinaykor364]

didn't know they needed your kind dreaming about them to survive and live🤣🤣🤣

[@bearsbreeches]

@@altinaykor364 of course they didn't but someone suggested thet we revered them so much that we dreamt about them. That's what my comment was referring to.

[@Rosebud100]

Land of Hope and Glory, written by a Scotsman , music by an English man - may it live on in our British hearts forever.

[@ChristineMeyer-hs9rg]

Nobody likes to be lied to- repeatedly lied to. The Monarchy just can't get away with it now. Why obscure the issue with allegations of "cruel comments".The truth is obviously too much to ask for and you uphold that in this diatribe.

[@MTknitter22]

The RF has never regained their luster since Diana. As much as there has been an aggressive all out PR campaign really night and day to make William and Kate as big as she was, it’s not the same. They are popular but they are nothing like her. Bless them, nobody can be.

[@barbarabarbour6833]

I agree. Certain members of the RF have revered status in the public mind, certainly the late Queen. However, the difference is that Diana was universally loved. I can think of no other member of the RF - now or long gone - who truly qualifies in that way. The bar has been set too high since the death of Diana. Therefore there is only one way for the royals to go: down. The end of deference.

[@janebennett8097]

@@barbarabarbour6833 Dianna was a big problem. she wasn't everyone,s favourtie

[@vittoriacolona]

What rubbish. If the BRF are tortured they can give up their crown. KC went to NI and Wales in order to keep the two nations in the UK. He did not have to go. And this woman feeling sorry for Harry who at 40 years old still can't get grow up.

[@suemcgregor9248]

If you don't want them, at least a dozen Commonwealth countries can and will take them, then Britain can be part of their Commonwealth because who else is going to bother with Britain without it's Monarchy?

[@carollandosky9991]

Don’t know of any that want this entitled evil

[@Daisy-tl2lh]

Good idea ... they must also pay for their support and all provide the level of security and lavish lifestyle!!

[@suemcgregor9248]

@@Daisy-tl2lh of course they can afford it, Britain is by no means the most prosperous part of the Commonwealth. Britain is broke

[@wendyturney8914]

@@carollandosky9991 I don't know any that don't. We could vote in a president like putin, Trump, Kim Jong Un or Xi Jinping if that's what people want who would end up with massive wealth (like those above) and we would be wrong in thinking they would cost us any less (Carrie Johnson spent thousands on redecorating No 10). British business and charities would lose so much money.

[@Eph.6_10-20]

You’re welcome to take them and fund them. Happy to help.

[@lucyroberts9226]

What a vile site with people that have a very depressing look at anyone that has a pound more than them ,wont be bothering with this site again