'Death of SANDF soldiers undermines SA's authority in Africa'

[@hgfku-tn6hb]

Not only undermined. Clear indication that even this country is not secured

[@kGs62]

South Africa is on the grey list. Do u know what that means?

[@Africanfolktales-w2i]

@@kGs62Please enlighten us 😊

[@nokweyisangqungwana3103]

@@hgfku-tn6hb undermined? We as SAns are undermined by this government. We were never consulted when they decided on taking our tax money for the DRC war. Out of 16 SADC countries, SA, Tanzania and 🇲🇼 are the only ones who are involved in the war. SA and Tanzania support financially and by sending soldiers, whilst Malawi only sends troops. Now is the any sense in this???? In the Palestinian issue we didn't send troops but supported by sending our lawyers. Why have we been highly invested in this country???? It's not even our neighbour, why????? Is it for SAn companies that are in DRC????? If we are, what have those companies done for SAns???? This is another Marikana and you SAns are supporting rubbish. This is not going to end well, and sadly poor SAn people would be on the receiving end if this would lead to war, these big far cats that are benefiting escaping to safety. Continue condoning nonsense, instead of stopping this rubbish. SA should take the stands of other 13 other SADC countries, of minding their own problems.

[@Jazz-fg2dm]

>>Clear indication that even this country is not secured This country, you mean SA? If yes, then that's good news for the indigenous blk people of SA. It means you can easily kick the white colonizers out of your country with some black rebels.

[@bojimonkango9832]

We as Congolese are grateful for SANDF and SA citizens helping us with this issue happening for over 30 years

[@DorothyNyakato-s4y]

You mean you're grateful for SANDF & SA citizens for helping you kill your own people? Come on DRC citizens. That's so sad to hear from you

[@mubangiziaston-xb7vf]

Where have they been for all those 30 years? They keep talking of Rwanda as a country looking for mineral wealth in Congo yet they are the ones doing so. South Africans are known for being non-accommodative and selfish. Zimbabwe, which is their neighbor, has had economic hardships and South Africa has not done anything to help them now they are running to DRC which is thousands of miles away. South Africans are known to be discriminative and have been chasing other Africans out of their country. DRC should stop looking south for solutions, they need to start looking east.

[@frederickngwenya4082]

​@@mubangiziaston-xb7vf You must be from Rwanda 🇷🇼 and worried that your looting days are over

[@dudleygraham1949]

We are clearly fighting a losing battle. Mi would not be surprised if some high ranking officials are involved in kickbacks for self enrichment...

[@mashabafxacadamy]

​@@mubangiziaston-xb7vfZimbabwe s problem is for Zimbabwean citizens to deal with it has nothing to do with SA...but Congo is our problem...Congo is Africa's super power we will do everything it takes to make sure it doesn't fall under the Americans/west hands..with Congolese development Africa is still nothing so we need Congo to be free to Africa can be able to compete with the likes of china US and them

[@jovince4199]

full respect my retired general you undestand clearly the congolese problem and pain.god bless you and bless south africa

[@penekedirero4636]

🇿🇦🇨🇩

[@felixtshibang7084]

@jovince4199 He does not fully understand. It's true Rwanda might play a role. But the security and safety of the country is the UTMOST Responsibility of our leaders. Yet, our soldiers are not equipped with appropriate war machines - they are not paid . While most of our political leaders go on vacation around the world. We need leadership. Period. Invest in Your Armies

[@janviertuyishime7018]

the retired mzee, indeed tired; would think twice before talking about KAGAME, (if he still has some brain inside of course); old man plz be specific, u mean Paul KAGAME? The Flag of Rwanda? The fearless man on the planet? Nowadays, there are a lot of Kagame. Please join Comic Houses, you can play well.

[@dumisaninxumalo5245]

A gangster can supply better resources to his members than the ANC can its police and soldiers . That is the sad reality .

[@trailieexplains2719]

Was South African army thinking they are on holiday in DRC not to expect casualties

[@josh3221ify]

They were probably looking for girlfriends

[@leavesinautumn5959]

Rep. of South Africa are there as peacekeepers, they're not at war. Their response to the deaths of their soldiers is not unique or out of the ordinary, others in similar positions have responded similarly.

[@mLindoL-w6n]

In the war they must not relax they expect negotiations, if they think their on holiday exploring the world meaning they didn't mean what they signed for

[@Fact-Laughter]

Meanwhile the people who’s behind the war are moving freely with their family.. The world is fucked up 🆙

[@WalterOmondi-c7d]

Israel is small but strong

[@afrikanking4022]

Israel is not strong. American weapons

[@leavesinautumn5959]

If they're so strong why do they need American tax dollars to pay 70% of their war costs? Why do they need military support from American and European fleets and their associated personnel? Why do they need a half dozen other countries to intervene when Iran retaliates against them? No, Isra_l is weak, dangerous but weak.

[@ALL-REALITEE]

There is no traditional way, Rwanda has declared war against us, Rwanda is fighting South Africa. Hire us as young men, we're here in KZN

[@flowinbinary8787]

Batshele ngempela 😂😂😂😂

[@Mashami-w5]

You are not normal Rwanda is very far of south Africa ,🤷

[@nokweyisangqungwana3103]

Singenaphi???????? Fuck that shit. We called for soldiers to help on national problems and they were not deployed. They are there to protect Cyril and friends businesses. SAns we have to put a stop to this twisted evil man.

[@neommutle8033]

Mind your business young man, do not get involved in corrupt old men wars.

[@GcobaniBatyi]

Up "asibesabi, siyabafu a"

[@sammakungu5028]

You served a long time ago. The ANC has taken all the money.

[@ushindimazino2002]

This the first SA ndf that understands the Congolese problem I have high respect for you sir

[@sabelomogari9216]

Ramaphosa has no balls, and no answer for Kagames regime whatsoever

[@MichaelVumile-jb3lb]

Kagame is soldier and Ramaphosa is coward. It is what it is , the Minister of defence in SA is a teacher. SA is one big joke.

[@bojimonkango9832]

Hey News room Afrika, amazing political analyst, I Am impressed with the general having a clue on what is happening ❤❤❤

[@pmaphala6848]

Soldiers dying in war is not a tragedy but an ordinary occurrence. Even Russia as the #2 military ranked country has reportedly lost over 100K troops in Ukraine war. There is no country that doesn't suffer casualties in war. What matters is the scale, only 13 of the 2900 SANDF Soldiers deployed is minimal loss...How many M23 rebels have died in DRC, no one is saying anything about that.

[@Ghoulza]

They died because ANC sent them there with no logistics and heavey weapons and no airsupport. The very basics they needed they didn't have. Don't talk crap about something you clearly know nothing about

[@NthabisengNthabi-un6gt]

Well said War means people or soldiers dying on both sides of the war? Plus equipments getting damaged in the process

[@NthabisengNthabi-un6gt]

Well said War means people or soldiers dying on both sides of the war? Plus equipments getting damaged in the process

[@chapter9363]

​@Ghoulza when you join military that's what you sign for to fight

[@Ghoulza]

@chapter9363 wow well do e mister obvious but part of that is that you will be given the tools to do so. ANC has not given them the logistics and support they need. Don't be silly with me you pathetic little twit

[@bafedilemautjana5250]

Very true,SA should send a serious message.

[@WillamShauke]

Which message Ramaphosa is very weak

[@nokweyisangqungwana3103]

Singenaphi guys????? We have serious problems in our country why are our children dying there?????? Why?????

[@la-ry1ms]

To who and from where

[@penekedirero4636]

​@@WillamShaukeWe will see about that match stick man😂

[@CharmaineMnguni]

@@nokweyisangqungwana3103vele singenaphi we don’t want our people to die there 😢

[@SabeloTaswell]

Zuma and Ramaphosa collapsed our country

[@bojimonkango9832]

Hey News room Afrika, amazing political analyst, I Am impressed with the general having a clue

[@Beastking687]

If you are afraid of death don't go to the Army

[@penekedirero4636]

💯

[@DominicusBeukes]

You speak like a M23 Rebel....and not a South African Citizens.

[@Beastking687]

@DominicusBeukes Why do you think soldiers get paid so much money.

[@retshidisitswemokoena1614]

"Force must be applied". Great sentiment Gen. Now with what do you apply that force?

[@ZingisaMnyamana]

You don't know weapons that are owned SANDF

[@marweshemello1090]

There are lots of unemployed south Africans willing to pay to be part of the army

[@tspen4128]

I dont understand people who are alarmist or trying to be alrmist about our soldiers dying - its sad and terrible that human life has to be lost for any war, but it is war... We are in an active warzone and soldiers fight wars and their will be casualities. I say this as a family member of a sandf service member, so im not speaking flippantly about the blood cost to our nation. Have we become this arrogant and soft as a nation that when men(and women) of valor perish in service of our nation's defense force, we crumble and are up in arms??

[@sihlemangcobonga5820]

From being a minister of Grade R straight to being Minister of Defense mxm 😪

[@KingdomTruthsUnveiled]

😂😂😂

[@buyisileisaac7795]

This interview makes sense.

[@vanessasmook4229]

Because a nation was once the leading military strength on the continent 3/4 of a generation ago, does not mean it still maintains those capabilities. Unfortunately for the men on the ground.

[@timtam9646]

Thank you General for your simple straightforward conversation. Unfortunately a government like the ANC will do absolutely nothing because they cannot . South Africa does not have military capabilities. Like the general point out the rebels are well equipped and South Africa defence are equipped like rebels 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mosskubayi742]

Taking a woman who is a former teacher to lead the army without any military background. The military will fail before they get start.

[@murphyng4511]

SA killed and you are laughing? rwandese peoples now i understand what peoples said

[@timtam9646]

@ murphyng4511. And you think this story is only known in South Africa.You must get out of your comfort zone and see how the rest of the world laugh at the South African government.This is just the tip of the iceberg

[@ntazindajeanmarievianney1843]

the truth is always ignored. there is no reason for South Africa to give us or explain that it is against a child hum faith for his the rights are denied.

[@ntazindajeanmarievianney1843]

shame on south africa for joining the congo forces that are working together with the genocidals groups(fdrr). that's why you are losing

[@Gilshon]

This has nothing to do with Rwanda!! It’s a problem between DRC government and it’s own citizens! And we’re kindly asking you all to support M23 to achieve their freedom in their land 🙏🏽

[@leavesinautumn5959]

Rwanda is up to its eyeballs in this, this is an undeniable fact. They're not some uninvolved bystanders, they are participants. Whether one thinks this participation is justified or not is a separate matter but lets at least be honest about what's happening.

[@ChulumancoMasina-k3o]

I agree with you they're just misleading people so they can focus on Rwanda as perpetrator

[@richardrwagasana1323]

you are fooling yourself; Rwanda of 2000 is not Rwanda of today. No comment

[@Yaobantu]

I think this is not a fight SA should be involved in

[@user-ez9en7vk2z]

The SANDF has been fully transformed.

[@nkululekongwenya1766]

Thank you General. Its a shame that we now seem to be disrepected by small nations. M23/Rwanda attacking our troops in our own base is true reflection of that. If we let this go unpunished, disrespecting SA will be the order of the day in Africa.

[@DorothyNyakato-s4y]

That's sounds so primitive. Shame? na bado. Mutalia machozi

[@TTheo-q8o]

@@nkululekongwenya1766 obviously you have no idea about the situation in congo now . M23 is a strong , organised and well equiped army. Yes SA can but i don't think it's a good idea

[@penekedirero4636]

​@@DorothyNyakato-s4yWe don't speak much English, you seam to know too much English. rwanda is a small country to make us cry, you will never know what hit you little match stick man.

[@drkalachjohn3627]

Small mind man, a nation is nor defined by the geographical size, rather the size of the MIND, DECISIOS, ABILITY, and ENABLING VALUES of that nation's population. So, stop seeing what you think is small to be inability and invaluable, that's the mistake being made by SADC, SANDF, DRC, UN, and others like you.

[@nkululekongwenya1766]

​@@TTheo-q8o I've been following Everything that's happening in the DRC, the argument is that M23 are not the typical rebel fighters. There is no way M23 can be better trained than SANDF. Rwandan Army itself isn't better trained. The main problem is this Soft approach that we've adopted after the Nelson Mandela administration.

[@tamukamukanda8668]

Those M23 guys are not there to play! Rwanda is an organized Army. U can see it in everything they do in their country. Zero corruption and 100% discipline. SANDF is finding out the hard way , thanks to ANC incompetence!!😢 why is the Angie lady even in charge of the SANDF! Apparently she flew out of Goma the other day leaving injured soldiers behind. Unbelievable! Such utter nonsense 😢

[@NiyonsabaFulgence-tq3gr]

Who told you there is no corruption in Rwanda??? You must be not informed or else you are one of paid propagandists of bloodthirsty Kagame!

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

You got 100 percent. DRC is another basket case of an army. They are poorly equipped, poorly paid, poorly disciplined. A country with mineral wealth like no other nation on earth and yet cannot fight a rebel group?

[@EJ-ht8oz]

Lovely interview by someone that talks sense!

[@jaymulumba3259]

The General understands the real problem of DRC. Thank you sir. The problem Is Kagame and his younger for minerals to serve the western countries

[@KanamugireKamili]

To see how foolish this self made General is, he has forgotten how they failed in Mozambique until Rwanda forces came there. He must be related to the former president of Congo Mobutu who used to scare people because of the size of his country. Same as current president of Congo.

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

The DRC president is the problem. He has no army. Museveni told him to his face. A lot of wealth yet he can't build a strong disciplined army

[@josh3221ify]

The problem is when you strongly believe you are a major force to be reckoned with and make your population believe it too. Always make sure your talk matches your capabilities. SA army should just go back to the drawing board and ensure that they don't embarrass themselves, they might send reinforcement and they are still defeated. It's also surprising that there are so many issues that can't be resolved within SA itself, crime, robberies, gangs, hijacked buildings, illegal army bases, yet SA thinks its forces are major players. Start home first, most African countries law enforcement can easily deal with these issues.

[@Manlesss]

Thank you guys for this interview . Please bring such people, who have the understanding of these things. Am happy about this, Rwanda by the way have no money so who is funding these guys with such technology .

[@cosmicwakes6443]

The US and EU. It's colonialism.

[@blessedgirl1252]

😂😂

[@juliomash6297]

USA 😢

[@mupenzironald5575]

Who told you that Rwanda has no money? Even though money may not be enough, Rwanda has so many ways to fund and support its operations.

[@Manlesss]

@@mupenzironald5575 Obviously stealing of minerals because you have none and sell them in return by weapons this is all done with assistance of your western powers

[@Yaobantu]

Rwanda army is battle hardened, well trained, I would say lethal …. SANDF are not … it’s a peace time army …. This is a complex issue…. It’s an ethnic conflict… there are three sides to every story …Congo’s version , Rwanda’s version and some where in between

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

Kenya knew this very well and was doing well balancing the 3 sides then Tsisekedi chased them out thinking he could be helped by mercenaries. He has seen dust. M23 will reach kinshasa

[@labanmosi4797]

As a Kenyan let me tell you that there's nothing like ''South African authority in Africa " when it comes to military firepower. That ended with the apartheid military which was strong enough to project power beyond her borders. This other one is ladden with corruption & just can't fight.

[@thekgi1349]

It's not the time for hate and jealousy - People in Congo need help and Kenya is doing fokkol..Your President is talking talking and doing nothing to help the people there! The problem of Africa is that you hate other Africans, you undermine black people - your hatred towards South Africa is nothing more than a reflection of your own insecurities.

[@RendaniNetshirungulu]

What's your useless president doing

[@mathewochola3193]

@@RendaniNetshirungulu writing is on the wall. Who is useless here? SANDF is a paper tiger, useless completely. Our president sent kenyan solders to DRC and their presence there started bearing fruit until President Tshekedi requested them to leave. Kenyan solders and police have the experience, training, expertice and right attitude to get the job in DRC done. They must be allowed back there to stabilise the situation. They have done the same in Somalia and now our police in Haiti ..... let your government pull out those incompetent SANDF!!

[@mathewochola3193]

@@thekgi1349 Accept the truth, SA have been exposed ...... paper tiger

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

Corruption in armies around africa will render our continent vulnerable to many rebel groups and conflicts. Arise africa

[@MrMoShemah]

We appreciate you general for your honest statement.This is the type of minister the SANDF needs,not incompetent civilians who are placed in positions so that they can be easily controlled…

[@eugenemulindahabi984]

Rwanda is not a small county as you think General. The size of the county is determined by the mindset of its people as opposed to the sqms of the county. Otherwise, Israel would be nothing.

[@mmofeledebeila2253]

Rwanda is not Israel

[@jobnelsonkisaka1261]

Key question: Does SADC understand and appreciate why M23 are fighting? Failure for SADC to correctly answer that question, SADC troops are fighting a blind war. If SADC leaderships enters the conflict chest thumping with an already biased mindset, too unfortunate and regretable. Before President Ramaphosa meets President Kagame, he must first consult President Thabo Mbeki and President Hifikepunye Pohamba.

[@demson80]

You are faking idiot

[@CodeCraftTube]

War is won by ideology; the side with the superior vision prevails. Kenya was making significant strides in Congo, but our South African brothers insisted there was no peace to protect, demanding the East African Standby Force withdraw. The SANDF rushed into the conflict, but the truth is-this is not a time for war. It’s a time for reason, for calm, and for measured response, not reckless chest-thumping. This is why you’re losing. The real goal isn’t the pursuit of victory through force-it’s the pursuit of peace through wisdom and dialogue

[@kabzaify]

Kenya exports minirals from Congo, you guys in East Africa are the problem here. You are minerals resource poor, that's why you need Congolese natural resources.

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

Exactly. The drc was misled to think that Kenya was siding with m23. Tsisekedi lacks wisdom. M23 can reach kinshasa

[@kabzaify]

@emmanuelluvai9399 Let's stop with the excuses, they is no such thing as M23. This is Rwanda taking Soviegn territory of Congo, in oder to economically benefit. Countries in East Africa are exporting minerals from Congo mainly Rwanda and Uganda

[@CodeCraftTube]

@kabzaify yes and is War the answer?

[@chefemuyenga-muyenga3201]

This General should be honest, SANDF is a non authority in army circle in Africa. I doubt Pres Kagame who is a seasoned army general would be frightened by this retired SANDF General. SANDF has no experience in jungle war, let them stick to protecting buildings in Kinshasa. I think in SADC, only Angola and Namibia has the experience in guerilla type of war.

[@CorneilleH]

Rwanda might be a small country in size but patriotism is bigger than you think general,equip them as you want and come back you will tell me!!

[@ruzindazajonas8506]

M23 defeated when it had no airports,no sea, no strong weapon, no fighting planes , now they have! Once your weak srmy tries to throw itself into war with M23, this round none will return alive in SA. Shame on you!

[@Rud636]

What your people are doing in DRC? You sent your people to war, and you don’t want anyone to fight with them? Don’t send your solders to war if you don’t want them to die.

[@Sterfillah]

The funny thing about this whole situation Congolese men are here in South Africa instead of joining the army to assist the fight in their country.

[@ChristineAsaba-sy3zh]

sir, You say Rwanda is a small country, it may be small in size but weight a lot in all senses you may not know. Weapons M23 are using are those from their fighters if you dints know.

[@benbewa]

There is nothing in rwanda dont fool yourself.A country with a gdp/capita of 2000$/year,one of the lowest in the world,cant sustain a massive war.Tutsis have always been the whiteman slaves in the great lakes region.Rwanda and uganda are armed by usa,uk,france.....We shall teach u a lesson u will never ever forget

[@Manlesss]

Wow Wow , First time i got to bow down to someone this is it. We need truth

[@I_am_Gee_]

South Africa have no government. It pisses me off that although peacemakers lost their lives and others injured. South Africa defence force has not taken action. It is frustrating to see this nonsense happening.

[@ChristineAsaba-sy3zh]

Even if Rwanda was there, why are you being worried yet you have more forces than Rwanda and M23 as you claim!

[@ruzindazajonas8506]

There is no peace you brought in DRC instead troubles! If you were peacekeepers, you would not have participeted in fighting! Shame on you!

[@CarlosJohannes-hw9bo]

This general is exaggerating, look! This is not your war, this is Congolese war because it's government has failed to implement the agreement in totality

[@AmaniInfo]

All SADC troops who want to go to DRC having a mindset of this retired general undermining other countries capabilities in terms of military , if they make it to come back , they will come back with another story . He must first talk to intelligence before undermining countries like Rwanda

[@Ethan00477]

The Gen.is naive.he still thinks in terms of sizes of land. Winning war is determined by who shoots without missing not "quantity" or size of the country.

[@GlenroseMakgorogo]

Rwanda have been modernizing and strengthening their past 21yrs whilst ANC is been looting army funds

[@nordic4654]

This man is inkompetent

[@stevenwortrich6014]

What is evident is, that SA is no longer a power on the continent. Thanks ANC

[@superawsomelife8713]

General, you don't even know a single component of the problems of DRC. Do you remember that Zaire (the ex-Congo) received armed genocidal INTERAHAMWEs after killing 1m tutsis in Rwanda? Do you remember that those INTERAHAMWEs looted, mistreated, killed and chased congolese tutsis from their country since 1994 till today and they are stateless and living in refugee camps in Rwanda (Mahama, Kigeme, Kiziba, Nyabiheke and Gisagara); Kenya in Kakuma and Dadaab refugee camps, Uganda in Nakivale, Changware, etc Refugee camps? Do you remember that DRC denies that the refugees are not Congolese but still hosts, trains and arms INTERAHAMWEs? Do you remember that South Africa is fighting alongside these genocidaires INTERAHAMWE with FRDC and planning to attack Rwanda and may be kill people these before they remove the current Rwandese regime? What are you really saying GENERAL? Are you a real General ? You seem to have lost your reason! Rethink about what you're saying please, otherwise you'll be a shame to SADF.

[@esahm373]

You fail to acknowledge the role of M23! Deliberately so?

[@izakbgaguma6281]

Which kind of General is this, who doesnt illustrate historical analysis of the Congo war? Those South African troops will not win against those ragtag jungle rebels

[@joekambalos8869]

It shows clearly just by reading what u wrote that u are one of the Agents of " Criminal without border ", also known as Kagame. They get so excited everytime the truth comes out . Stupid dog. Saying like that to the general. People who shot at our Soldiers are members of Rwandan fefense force, everyone should look at the small flags on their uniform, Rwandan flags.

[@johnkarangwa4847]

You got it wrong. SANDF cannot solve the conflict in EDRC through use of force. It would be the worst mistake for RSA to engage with rebels in the war other than tackling the root cause of the conflict.

[@DorothyNyakato-s4y]

Tell them @ John. They are evading the truth and say they will show force. Why not tackle the issue from the roots? Why is M23 fighting in the first place? Why is it easy for you to make Rwanda a scape goat for your own mistakes? If M23 has made you cry, imagine what will happen if you invade a sovereign country like Rwanda? If you are a friend of DRC, advise the leadership to sit on the table with the sons of the soil and come to an agreement and leave Rwanda alone.

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

Kenya was doing so until the naive drc president chased us out alleging we were siding with the rebels. He was told he will lose the war and it has happened. Shame on him

[@cuma43]

You're kidding boy. You failed to fight rebels in Mozambique as SADC now you think you'll try with M23? Think twice

[@Ghoulza]

Don't be a moron

[@modisemakokwe4256]

What this happens when you listen only to bitter white analysts

[@karabomakwetla4626]

Boy?

[@thandoximba446]

O boa nywana

[@Ghoulza]

@@cuma43 so what happened in moz. First off it was Rwanda that failed. SA special forces went from town to town kicking rebels out. Rwanda's job was to secure the towns and make sure they did not come back. SA won every battles they entered against rebels in moz. Second m23 tried to take on SA once before they were routed and most of their equipment destroyed

[@tamukamukanda8668]

Rwanda has a population similar to that of Zimbabwe, approximately 16 million. You all know the Zim army were the last contingent to defeat the Rwanda/Uganda force that reached Kinshasa in the early 90s. Zim is arguably the best trained in Southern Africa. They also have institutional memory which SANDF does not. Now, for 30 years Rwanda’s Army has been busy modernizing while ANC has been looting and hollowing out the Army. SADC should have funded the Zimbabwean Army to take the lead on operations in DRC. Now SANDF has been overwhelmed and our brothers are dying for nothing! M23 are not there to play😮

[@NiyonsabaFulgence-tq3gr]

Are you sure Zimbabwean army isdefinitely still that strong without Robert Mugabe?? I doubt!

[@laurentmatasi652]

Check your facts again, it's not Zim army by Angola.

[@DerrickKabayiza]

And the retired General thinks SA can defeat Rwanda haaaaa

[@Iam_Antidote_forever]

Rwanda are kids

[@khayambhele6471]

Hey my man don't play South Africa has the fighting power do you think, they must take all resources to DRC

[@blakshatta4093]

Rwanda is dangerous

[@gibsontoringepi9365]

He is very crazy, he thinks the Rwandan Army is a toy

[@sicobelelanangolwazi9151]

​@@blakshatta4093 SA it's on the top 5 best military dwar, go and do your own research

[@dudleygraham1949]

Put your pride in your pocket and withdraw from DRC. We should not allow others domestic problems to cost our SADF lives. This war has been carrying on for far too long.....

[@nokweyisangqungwana3103]

Totally agree this is fucked up. They are there to protect Cyril and crews businesses. This has got nothing to do with us. We have bigger problems to solve as a country inside our country.

[@alwyngulzar522]

Its amazing how we can adequately train 95 Libyans here illegally, but our own forces who defend our country and the interests of SADC are trained so inadequately end up dying on foreign soil. Its absolutely pathetic!

[@TTheo-q8o]

Help DRC to build his own army.

[@ChristineAsaba-sy3zh]

How do you say crimes against your people as if Congolese blood do not matter! this is a terrible mistake sir! Why are you fighting M23 who are fighting for a genuine course !!! Do not accuse Rwanda without first sit down and read the history of both Congo and Rwanda and get to know and decide if you would go to DRC fight

[@moseszuma8663]

DRC Congo is a jungle and many of South Africa soldiers don’t know this kind of warfare

[@modisemakokwe4256]

Nah there have been in that region for me than 20 years now

[@nokweyisangqungwana3103]

Bafunani???????

[@geraldrafferty5485]

DO WHAT ARE THEY DOING THERE ?????????

[@modisemakokwe4256]

@geraldrafferty5485 ASK UN what South Africa is doing there

[@glendakongolo9441]

Thank you Mr Motau

[@sandilemntungwa1538]

Well articulated from a former soldier

[@MichaelVumile-jb3lb]

SANDF will struggle to recruit young people.

[@mbabazimarembo285]

Dear General, your confidence in thinking that SA being a big country and Rwanda being too small to impose injustice is so disgusting and it is a succinct frame of your understanding of how minorities should be dealt with worldwide.

[@thamimahlangabeza6639]

It's true, sir! Why is our president calling a Rwandan president about a matter he shouldn't be getting involved with in the first place?

[@DorothyNyakato-s4y]

Excactly. Why doesn't he call Chilombo? People are evading the truth and avoid the facts on ground. DRC is fighting their own citizens, instead of calling Tsisekedi and advise him to hold talks with the Congolese lebels, they are calling H.E Kagame. wHY?

[@thamimahlangabeza6639]

@@DorothyNyakato-s4y You're mistaking my question. I know for a fact that Kagame has inserted himself in a business that is not his, in the first place. He's in contravention of the international law. ICC is the only route for him from here. Don't excuse the inexcusable, please.

[@penekedirero4636]

​@@DorothyNyakato-s4yWhat DRC people, these are rwandese who helped Laurent Kabila depose Maburhu Sesesekp and killed Kabila afterwards. We might be in South Africa but we know a bit of the history of that region. You have something coming your way little match stick man.

[@darlingtonmachilar6745]

A major country that keeps on losing its own soldiers in a foreign country?

[@amapianobeatforgestudios]

That's the war brother, do you how many the enemy lost?

[@NiyonsabaFulgence-tq3gr]

Haven't you heard of US soldiers who die in similar circumstances?

[@benbewa]

What about 10000s of angolans and cubans that died to free namibia and south africa?

[@ladyBibi529]

It’s true that we need a show of force meanwhile we have a president we hasn’t even released a statement acknowledging the death

[@MzamoAdoons-d6n]

Are you still calling that thing a president😂😂

[@ReginaldMthembu-q9r]

You're right General

[@geraldrafferty5485]

SORRY FOR CASUALITIES MY CONDOLENCES TO FAMILY. SA PLAYING " WAR GAMES" NOBODY SCARRED OF SOUTH AFRICA....SORRY GUYS !

[@michaelwafula9587]

We, the eastafricans. Rwanda is too small to disturb the region. Kagame should be told.

[@Ubukristobwukuri777]

Do you know Rwanda? Is not small is big.she was created small by colonialists since 1910.So pay attention you don't know

[@channelkaap]

Big? How? Population? Land size, GDP? Rwanda is something in East Africa, but absolutely NOTHING in Africa 😂😂😂

[@jameskillu9171]

SA and Rwanda should remove their army from Congo. both have no minerals in Goma and Congo.

[@aubreymaoba7935]

You are lost

[@Nelle984]

Small country such as Rwanda and force must he applied😢. Paul Kagame never takes threats lite

[@biggiemurisa3903]

We also what a comment from Action SA about this war in DrC

[@faustinrugamba6766]

you are not only retired but also tired general. But above all, you are ill-informed and arrogant. You are not major as you think and Rwanda is not as small as you perceive it. Rwanda can deal with everyone when it comes to its security no matter how big or might you think of yourselves. So go get rest general

[@channelkaap]

"Rwanda can deal with who? Wait everyone"? Bro you need a serious wakeup prank. Rwanda is big to small minds.

[@GlenroseMakgorogo]

Who is the minister of the military?

[@michaelwafula9587]

It's true. Rwanda is too small to disturb the region

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

Wandasi Rwanda Army just like Ethiopia is very disciplined. They can march to kinshasa in 2 months, the problem is DRC army. Very indisciplined , corrupt and unpatriotic

[@charleskakozankuriza5753]

Why did you come here to do? And I wonder whether you are in the position of solving DRC problems at the expense of Rwandan security concerns. General you are tired go home and sleep

[@glentweedie602]

We have more people dying in SA everyday from gang conflict than what's dying each day in DRC, but our govt. gets upset when 9 soldiers deployed in a country that is thousands of Kms away are killed in action?? They probably died because they would have been underequipped, underfunded & lacking support. South Africa no authority in Africa. South Africa is a laughing stock in Africa, the way it has been plundered in the last 30 years. Not even our currency is worth good money anymore. I'm sorry for the families of the soldiers, but dying on foreign soil while your own country is a mess is not the way to go.

[@mmofeledebeila2253]

Yes, more people are dying in SA because they get killed by their fellow South Africans. How is that the SANDF's fault?

[@sunset8001]

The gruesome execution of Patrice Lumumba in the 60s that was the mastermind of the Belgium government and the American CIA and performed by the Congolese soldiers themselves supervised by Mobutu was a curse for the country of Congo and only God will redeem them with a leader who will restore order and sanity.

[@Lebonkt]

Very true Mr General, this is a strong message to this western colonizers

[@ClaudeMurenzi-f7i]

U're naive if you think we're small 😅😅😅

[@channelkaap]

You actually are, it's just that we have the wrong leadership. We need a patriot in office and not these useless who treats you with soft gloves.

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

Rwanda and Kenya are the best in Africa

[@gcinanomela6772]

Which authority is he exactly talking about? He can't expect the authority to work in Africa when it's dismally failing here in the local.

[@dunia-n3k]

Please don' start a war between sadec against EAC

[@kabzaify]

We already at war, will see who has more resources. This East Africans need to be taught a lesson

[@fidelehategeka4888]

Dear Retired General, it seems that you are tired even in your mind

[@laurentmatasi652]

It happened in RCA before, what did you do? Defending hamas and the corrupt DRC Government is the same, mercenary for hire. The old man should say the truth

[@userAsap-wn3rz]

You should not be fighting along FDLR, among other armed groups.

[@fidelehategeka4888]

Even American soldiers have died in different war

[@songwadiyabanza1771]

Thank you Baba, we congolese will always be grateful to South African. The problem is Rwanda indeed.

[@emmanuelluvai9399]

Ndugu the problem is your government. Kinshasa signed an agreement with the rebels in 2012 which has never been implemented. Tsisekedi is not serious to have it operationalised. He continues to call banyamulenge rwandese and foreigners. They are Congolese and in their homeland. Their minerals are being looted yet there are no schools, roads, hospitals, jobs, railways , etc. Life in the east of your country is miserable. They are marginalised. Poorly treated. Your army is indisciplined. Kenya intervened last year but your president chased them away. If today Tsisekedi fulfils the covenant the government signed with the east, peace will prevail tomorrow

[@kimutaichemase6784]

The general's mind is still stuck in 30 years ago, he is very naive

[@nienie68]

Thus guy speaks of the past. Rwanda is much stronger now. SA is weak with weak leaders. Just stay out of other people's business.

[@salimrutega5408]

This General has no idea about the history of the conflict in Congo, let him advise his government of south Africa to just withdraw their country.

[@ThozamileKuboni-op9cn]

Gen Bantu Holomisa must address the country. He must account. He needs to preseve our dignity.

[@trevoryingwane5714]

Should we be fighting each other as Africans in the first place, who do we please? It is absurdity at best.

[@beewest5704]

My neighbors daughter is in DRC she says they do not even have enough ammunition to defend themselves. They are sitting ducks & everyone knows where the S.African base is. Many of the Congolese soldiers ran to Rwanda. How do we help ppl not fighting for themselves. Why do they send kids to die when they know they do not have the budget & equipment to support them. This is murder.

[@garethbarry3825]

As much as i respect and indeed admire the former general for his service, i would like to point out; 1. The SANDF is a shadow of what it was 20 years ago- no air support from Rooivalk helicopters etc...a looter continua 2. What exactly is the South African national interest in this? So far, ive heard nothing but supposed pan-Africanist ideology and pride as the arguments for keeping our troops there. That's a lot to ask young South African men to die for, to make orphans and widows for. If the DRC under the current regime is crucial to our economy (doubtful) then maybe. Personally, id rather take any defense spending and capability we may have left and use it to secure our borders.