Nextone Artist VS. Katana 50

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60 Cycle Hum

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5 жыл бұрын

I love the Katana 50 and use it heavily and regularly, but how does the Nextone stack up in the tone dept? Does it earn its higher price point?
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@jesusgarciacruz9059
@jesusgarciacruz9059 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, the ending with the stereo setup is truly epic. I fell in love with the sound of both of these amps, but especially with the Nextone
@stefankarlssonice
@stefankarlssonice 5 жыл бұрын
I feel the fair comparison here would be between the Katana Artist and that Nextone Artist - that would be a proper contest
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
buy me one and ill do it ;-)
@ErikStone1
@ErikStone1 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Katana Artist, and it does sound different than the Katana 100 due to its cabinet build and Waza Craft speaker. This is a great video, but not a truly fair comparison. Also, the video shows different EQ settings on each amp, so that may be another reason for the differences in tones. Anyways, thanks for sharing! Good stuff.
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
Erik Stone comparisons aren’t supposed to be fair, they are supposed to be comparisons.
@GuitarAge
@GuitarAge 5 жыл бұрын
@@60CycleHumcast exactly!
@rogerloydmccoy
@rogerloydmccoy 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I have a K Artist and its night and day to the K 50
@ricmel8008
@ricmel8008 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great comparison. I love when budget amps goes up against more expensive amps. It helps to justify why you should or should not pay more.
@yorkshirerob9944
@yorkshirerob9944 5 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. These are two of the options I’m looking at right now but still can’t decide. Enjoying the vid though!!
@dswo70
@dswo70 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this report. I really enjoy your channel.
@ryanpbodfirst8616
@ryanpbodfirst8616 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video - really interesting comparison! I bought the nextone stage and loving it. By the way - you can get full clean headroom on the clean channel by using the app and pushing the bias voltage on the output valve right up and the saving that back to the amp - so you can get 40w of clean! The app and control over the preamp and output valve control is what makes this amp special - you can get huge overdrive sounds for example by putting the preamp in the app in pre and pushing the output level. Boss are really on to something here! I've got it set up so the clean is on the American eq stack with maxed out bias so I get total clean power and then I'm using the British eq stack on the lead channel with a bit more preamp gain and rolled off highs.
@angloviking3798
@angloviking3798 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the nextone stage after reviewing a lot of amps, I can't wait to try it when it comes on Tuesday
@nicolamontoro
@nicolamontoro 5 жыл бұрын
Another great review . Thanks Ryan..
@jeffhebert9643
@jeffhebert9643 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the nextone would sound closer to the Katana 100....the 100 has more bass response with the larger cabinet .
@kiltymacbagpipe
@kiltymacbagpipe 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Hebert I was thinking the same thing.
@davewalsh3885
@davewalsh3885 5 жыл бұрын
So far I'm sticking with my 100 watt 2 X 12, but if it ever pooches out I'm interested.
@TheDyingScotsman
@TheDyingScotsman 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE my KTN 100!
@vicksmith3122
@vicksmith3122 5 жыл бұрын
Yea I think the wattage is the biggest difference here also it suppost to sound like a tube amp the problem with that is it is also the same price as a tuse amp that doesn't work for me cause if I had 7 bills to drop I would just get a tube amp
@76seahawk
@76seahawk 5 жыл бұрын
And better speaker
@TheGuitarRoom
@TheGuitarRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Between the very insightful comments and the absolutely ridiculous ones, I’ll offer mine. I play out of a Trainwreck Rocket amplifier. The model was built for me in 1990 by Ken Fischer of Trainwreck circuits. I will say that for a completely synthesized sound, the next Nextone Offers good modeling for what it is. I use it at my small local gigs and at my open mic nights. People are shocked by the tone. I don’t care much for the katana, as I find it hard, sterile and dry. But that does have It’s purposes as well. Thank you for making this video
@mrredritehand
@mrredritehand 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Nextone stage Ive had for over a year now. Great amp
@playguitarguy
@playguitarguy 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there! I own both amps, but the opposite. I have the 100w Katana and the 40w Nextone. I used the Katana extensively on casino gigs (mainly R&B), and was just so pleased with the sounds. Loved it. I then went into a second-hand music store and played the Nextone. It blew me away; so natural sounding! I was already over the Moon with the Katana...but the Nextone absolutely kills! Both are staying in my amp arsenal. Love them. Thanks! BTW...I super lucked-up on the price of my used Nextone in mint condition. The store was reopening after the Covid shutdown, and it had been returned to the store twice ( pretty sure by Beethoven and Helen Keller). I got it in perfect condition for around $260! They needed a sale.
@dizzyguy7423
@dizzyguy7423 3 жыл бұрын
nice, a shop near me is doing a nextone 40 for £300 (around $400) and the katana 100 for the same as the nextone and i can only get one. which would you get seeing as you have both? thanks
@workplease123
@workplease123 5 жыл бұрын
Good one. I was waiting for this.
@bpsiloam
@bpsiloam 5 жыл бұрын
I want someone to do a comparison between the Nextone and a BluesCube 👍 though i feel like the Nextone is just the Tone Capsule tech built into one amplifier.
@isaacdolores4493
@isaacdolores4493 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I want to buy this amplifier (katana) but I have an electro acoustic guitar and I want to play with the effects, do you recommend that I buy this amplifier? Thank you 
@CedricSatterfield
@CedricSatterfield 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed in the dirt channels between these two that the volume was higher on the Nextone. Did you find that to be similar across your experimentation, even with a larger cabinet on the Nextone? Volume for volume that the Katana required less of a volume bump than the Artist? Luckily I have one of each of these used (at Katana Artist and Nextone Artist) at a local shop that I can try later this week, within 50.00 of each other.
@achimdg6335
@achimdg6335 5 жыл бұрын
I only know them from videos, the Katanas are amazing amps, but those Nextones sound like the real deal!
@jyangyang
@jyangyang 5 жыл бұрын
Man did you try the origin 50? If money not an issue , should purchase the katana 100 , katana artist or the origin50 for the pedal platform? Thanks!
@pytheus
@pytheus Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great vid!! Its challenging to tell just from youtube, and so hence the question: Please, which between these has a louder, with more overhead, clean tone? Thanks in advance for any further steerage in this conundrum!
@bobbyruggs808
@bobbyruggs808 5 жыл бұрын
The Boss Katana 100 2x12 is the best bargain out there. It's way better sounding than the 50 watt version and can be found cheap on the used market. Hangs in a live setting no problem and takes pedals well too.
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265
@mainenorthwoodshunter3265 4 жыл бұрын
do you think that the cabinet size may be some of that sound difference?
@xtheunknown6717
@xtheunknown6717 5 жыл бұрын
I tried to cop Mayer's Two Rock tone on Slow Dancing In A Burning Room with my Kat 50. The clean mode eq got the tones pretty good, totally gigable. But, it was missing this certain tube thing that I think the Nextone focuses on. How this would benefit the Mayer song I don't know. Is the Nextone a chameleon like the Kat?
@BabyBoomerChannel
@BabyBoomerChannel 5 жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks for doing this!!!! The Nextone sounds better, but the reverb on the Katana is better.....?
@mannyfragoza9652
@mannyfragoza9652 3 жыл бұрын
Blackstar was the first that i know of that has the switchable various Tube modes.I wonder if there is a copy issue ?
@Molekulasti
@Molekulasti 3 жыл бұрын
What are those microphones? Love how they capture the sound.
@MichaelBLive
@MichaelBLive 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome man. Good info.
@jasong546
@jasong546 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t have reason to be biased either way, so I can say to me it has to be an in room difference as you pointed out several times. You said the katana was brighter at the beginning, but with headphones I heard several times it wasn’t the brighter amp. And moments they sounded nearly identical. That’s cool, but I think it is very much in the room as you said. I liked all your playing examples and like them both, thanks for doing the video!
@BlueBarrier782
@BlueBarrier782 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know how these do with fuzzes? I'm looking at the katana 100, Nextone, and blues cube to use with some fuzzes.
@lunkercarp
@lunkercarp 5 жыл бұрын
You need to try out the Roland Blues Cube Artist and you'll also be totally impressed!
@ahall3823
@ahall3823 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of mics are you using?
@davidarmitage9853
@davidarmitage9853 5 жыл бұрын
The Nextone is suppose to model the four classic amplifiers; Fender Princeton, Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, VOX ac30, Marshall. Add pedals and it act just like the classic tube amps.
@8sigreg
@8sigreg 5 жыл бұрын
Dave Ami Well, not quite. Nextone doesn’t model specific amps, because it doesn’t model anything. It has an analog signal path, with a DSP to control how it reacts to the speaker impedance as it changes and an editor to tweak the amp’s parameters. 6V6, 6L6, EL34 and EL84 power-amp sections are recreated in solid state circuits and the individual power-amp tube types can be tweaked in the editor to sound similar to a wide range of amps using that particular tube, so, 6V6 could be a Princeton, a Deluxe, a Champ, or someone else’s 6V6-based amp. The same is true of the other three tube types.
@geoffreysmith4618
@geoffreysmith4618 4 жыл бұрын
Can you share where you saw that Boss modeled these amps? Is it in the manual? Thanks
@bigg4454
@bigg4454 5 жыл бұрын
I'd go for a Boss Katana 50 vs Nextone Stage comparison.
@mrredritehand
@mrredritehand 3 жыл бұрын
My nextone stage model burns my buddies katana 50 mk2 up. To the point he got mad and sold it lol.
@fransvenrooy4760
@fransvenrooy4760 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yep a Swiss army knife!! That's also a way of expressing the quality of the Boss Katana amplifiers. You're a good guy. 🤘 🤘
@michaelanderson2491
@michaelanderson2491 5 жыл бұрын
what tube setting on the nextone do you have it on, your right the nextone did sound warmer, which one did you like better?
@CedricSatterfield
@CedricSatterfield 5 жыл бұрын
He had it on 6v6. If you look close at the inset picture you can see the valve structure settings.
@bengalvin9932
@bengalvin9932 5 жыл бұрын
HEY RYAN! i really like the lead channel on the katana i just had a go on my katana and i got that kind of sound much better from the lead channel with the gain backed off or with the gain where i normally have it [ about 2 o'clock with a strat with low output PU ] and just turned down my guitars volume control doing it both these ways it sounded bigger and just better.
@jerrywalaszek2473
@jerrywalaszek2473 5 жыл бұрын
I getting one or the other????? I have the Boss GT-1 do I even need this box??? Im not really experienced with the amps and effects with that being said and owning the GT-1and you had 1 amp that you had to get what would be your pick? Please any help is greatly appreciated😳
@AussieCornerStudio
@AussieCornerStudio 3 жыл бұрын
I like what Boss/ Roland do to build something that will work with many different music situations. For what it's worth the Katana is universal while the Nextone Stage is for more serious applications it feels and plays alot more like a tube amp, lucky me I also own a Roland Bluescube Aritst. I placed all three amps in the same position got the volume levels at low gigging levels for my comparsion. As we know there is a sweet spot for 12" speakers to allow it move some air. Next I played clean a little crunch and some more gain but nothing like metal. IMO I felt the Roland Bluescubes ressembled more natural feel and sound than the other 2. Next was the Nextone Stage it did perform well but I think they missed that saturation of gain by adding to much bass into the algorithm a bit to flabby at higher volumes and yes the Kat though sounded good didn't have the responsivness but hey it was also much much cheaper to purchase has utilities that could be placed next to your PC without being to noticable and sounded great at lower bedroom levels. The winner of course is the amp that produces your sound your personality and might be an amp with a Boss or Roland Logo. Yes I played in bands Yes I own very good valve amps Yes I know have GAS and my home studio is now got a family of Solid State and all Valve amps living under the one roof.
@michaelmitchell5909
@michaelmitchell5909 5 жыл бұрын
Nextone all the way for me... Ability to switch power tube sections is an awesome feature. Id rather have that than on board effects and a ton of different gain sounds...I'm sure both r great amps, but again, it's the nextone that gets my money
@markaochoa2017
@markaochoa2017 5 жыл бұрын
In the gain channel is where you hear a massive difference. The nextone actually sounds like a really amp being overdriven.
@NachoSpain71
@NachoSpain71 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious. Which micros do you use to record the amps?. Thanks a lot for your videos!
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
Cascade Fathead ribbon mics.
@NachoSpain71
@NachoSpain71 5 жыл бұрын
@@60CycleHumcast They sound wonderful. Thank you very much!!!
@Mistertbones
@Mistertbones 5 жыл бұрын
Both amps sound great!
@chasecwood59
@chasecwood59 5 жыл бұрын
This comparison is ridiculous!!!! These two amps are completely different colors!!!
@TheDyingScotsman
@TheDyingScotsman 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@GuitarAge
@GuitarAge 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@thedownbeathearts8970
@thedownbeathearts8970 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@vladvinogrotskiy5512
@vladvinogrotskiy5512 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@ssolo8
@ssolo8 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@guilletjean-jacques5107
@guilletjean-jacques5107 5 жыл бұрын
very good video , the model of your telecaster is ?
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
thats a Jennings Navigator, ill be doing a demo of it soon. jenningsguitars.com/navigator/
@joshuasurridge8018
@joshuasurridge8018 4 жыл бұрын
great vid!!
@doctorskull8197
@doctorskull8197 5 жыл бұрын
One of my major concerns is how much do they weigh? I hate lugging amps in and out of a venue especially if the weather is crappy here in the Northeast USA.
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
they are pretty dang light, obviously the nextone is a little bigger and heavier than the katana, but the katana is the lightest 50 watt combo amp ive ever lifted.
@KeganVanSickle
@KeganVanSickle 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! It would be nice to hear each one ran into a separate cabinet with the exact same speaker.
@greysuit17
@greysuit17 4 жыл бұрын
Kegan VanSickle but that’s not how most will be using them
@vantonilin
@vantonilin 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you’ve returned the Nextone already, but now that you’re katana is toast, would you now get a Nextone?
@Matthew_Scan
@Matthew_Scan 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Katana and tried the next tone and wasn’t impressed
@andreapasillas8478
@andreapasillas8478 5 жыл бұрын
How about comparing a BOSS Blues Cube and the Nextone? I have a Blues Cube 30. It's a great door stop.
@greatreset3
@greatreset3 5 жыл бұрын
Should run the Katana through the Nextone speaker? Isnt that a WAZA speaker?
@leeallen2301
@leeallen2301 5 жыл бұрын
Gonna play devils advocate here. When you were doing the “gain” channel comparison, the nextone has some reverb on it and the katana was dry (no reverb). That will make a big difference. Also the katana 50 doesn’t have a presence control, but the nextone does, and you had it set to max. I could definitely hear the reverb and the punchier sound of the presence nob on the nextone so I don’t think this is a fair comparison. Unless theres some magical difference when you are in the room, I’d find it hard to justify valve amp money (or close to) for the nextone artist.
@bobbywilliams4655
@bobbywilliams4655 5 жыл бұрын
If you had to choose one would you have a (LINE6 HX STOMP into a HEADRUSH FRFR-108 $800.00) or a (KATANA ARTIST $600.00) or a (NEXTONE ARTIST $700.00) or a (KATANA 100 $360.00) or a (NEXTONE. STAGE 40-WATT $500.00) ?
@SebCB
@SebCB 5 жыл бұрын
Haha. Katana is your "Swiss army knife". So many blade puns to be made. I was super interested in this comparison. Thanks.
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
LOL, i didn't even make that connection.
@artgillespie162
@artgillespie162 5 жыл бұрын
What are some good surf settings that you have for your surf band on the katana?
@cliftongardner4367
@cliftongardner4367 5 жыл бұрын
Good comparison! Nextone wins this hands down, but I find the Katana 50 to be rather boxy-sounding anyway. IMO, The 100 sounds a lot more full and open, and when it's really moving some air, can hang with tube amps three times its price... I'm wondering if the Nextone series can justify the extra expense above a Katana 2x12 combo.
@DevunGames
@DevunGames 5 жыл бұрын
that, and most people dont need 100 watt combos
@richfiryn
@richfiryn 5 жыл бұрын
Sure we do for those special occasions at 3am when you can hear the gal next door screaming while getting pounded you place your 100 watt amp right up next to the wall and dime it.@@DevunGames
@jay_thedog_man5169
@jay_thedog_man5169 5 жыл бұрын
The Nextone totally sounds better. I’d love it if you were just given the Blackstar ID TVP for a comparison. I’m super interested in hearing them side by side like this.
@xyz6865
@xyz6865 5 жыл бұрын
Would be nice if you try to fiddle with the Katana's EQ to see if it can match the sound of the Nextone.
@bobboitt3126
@bobboitt3126 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, I like the Katana. I think if you added a little treble and volume it would match the Nextone.
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
in room the katana felt a lot brighter than the nextone, but then in post the overdrive from the katana got muddy and the nextone held up. I wasn't expecting that.
@anusrepairman
@anusrepairman 5 жыл бұрын
with all these great sounding solidstate amps i wonder what it will be like in like 10-20 years, no more tubes maybe?
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
I think as long as a supply of tubes exists there will be new tube amps, but with the digital and solid state options coming to market they are going to have to fill very specific niches or deliver a level or performance beyond 'this is a tube amp so it must be good'.
@DevunGames
@DevunGames 5 жыл бұрын
amp plugins and modelers will get better and better. Hybrid amps will be a little more plentiful. Solid state will be much, much better. tube amps will pretty much always be around, but the alternatives like nutube that are just coming out now will reach farther and farther.
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
Weeaboo Trashski there are so many options these days, it’s amazing
@bobboitt3126
@bobboitt3126 5 жыл бұрын
Tube amps will always be around. They do the "One great tone " where the digital amps do many "almost" great tones.
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
billions of years past the heat death of the universe tube amps will still be out there, apparently.
@TheBnslayer
@TheBnslayer 5 жыл бұрын
People from boss say crank the volume pot to the max not master!!!! And seems like nobody get it... I have 100w 1x12 version, I always put volume knob to the max on every chanel and master and gain optionally!!! Try that and your katana will sound very open and great like a tube amp!!!! Cheers!!!!!
@TheDyingScotsman
@TheDyingScotsman 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I always have the volume knob at 10, and my master is usually at 7 oclock - I have a KTN 100 and even at the 0.5w setting it''s punchy as heck!
@davesaenz3732
@davesaenz3732 5 жыл бұрын
You mean raise volume all the way up and master to whatever is comfortable?
@profd65
@profd65 5 жыл бұрын
Butthurt Katana owner obviously.
@profd65
@profd65 5 жыл бұрын
@@perfectmatchclients8812 Oh, the DV Mark is too complicated but the Katana is simple and easy? WTF are you talking about?
@Newnodrogbob
@Newnodrogbob 5 жыл бұрын
profd65 nice job. You got his comment exactly backwards. He bought the DV and not a Katana. He found the Katana complicated. And fizzy. Reading is hard...
@danielguitar5150
@danielguitar5150 5 жыл бұрын
BOSS Nextone Artist vs BOSS Katana Artist would be a sick video! Maybe even throw in the Blues Cube Artist too ;)
@Emma-kz3zr
@Emma-kz3zr 5 жыл бұрын
You Should have included a equally priced valve amp as well.
@PeterDad60
@PeterDad60 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan. I caught your band last night playing in Nashville and I was just blown away! But the $75 door price was a bummer. How come you guys never make KZbin videos of your performances? Just curious. -Peter
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
I wasn't in nashville last night or ever with my band. Heres some footage of us playing at tiki oasis two years back though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iV6ZXoqFqdCZldE
@georgepatterson7499
@georgepatterson7499 5 жыл бұрын
One of the key selling points of the Nextone is that it has 4 distinct power amp settings modeled after classic American and British amps. It might've been helpful to discuss how the individual settings compare to Katana (or at least tell us which one you were using). Just sayin'
@TheDyingScotsman
@TheDyingScotsman 5 жыл бұрын
So many options with the Katana anyway, that it's all down to your budget and personal taste. I am guessing the Nextone can use BOSS Tone Studio as well to dial in your sound?
@MiclainKeith
@MiclainKeith 2 жыл бұрын
You can see the selector switch on the amp
@pedrolourenco2707
@pedrolourenco2707 5 жыл бұрын
on the recording, the cleans sound very similar!
@LewisDavieMusic
@LewisDavieMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I hold the same opinion of this as I do the Katana vs a relatively expensive tube amp... the Nextone sounds better, but I'm not sure it sounds hundreds of dollars better. For my part, I'm using the Katana for small gigs so I don't have to cart my pedalboard and a heavy amp around, and for session work I'm saving for a Kemper.
@monkeybearbleu
@monkeybearbleu 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't help noticing that the EQs on these amps are set differently - the bass on the Katana is set much higher. Now wonder the Nextone sounds brighter! :P
@belicosebumpkin
@belicosebumpkin 5 жыл бұрын
Was that the Vox setting on the Nextone?
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
yeah
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
el34 i think
@bluesysamurainao4557
@bluesysamurainao4557 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!! I dig Fender Amp but in this case I prefer clean tone on katana and dirty tone on Nextone.
@xtheunknown6717
@xtheunknown6717 5 жыл бұрын
The Kat was quieter and the panal controls could get those two much closer, I do watch your videos, good stuff.
@wilzy30
@wilzy30 5 жыл бұрын
The Nextone sounded beautifully different once "Crunch" was initiated.
@nizodizo9549
@nizodizo9549 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you just got CRAZY!
@Josbornevonosborne
@Josbornevonosborne 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please compare similar sounds in the amps reacting to the same drive pedals
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
I will! pedalboard demo coming soon
@harrispapadakis8523
@harrispapadakis8523 5 жыл бұрын
What about putting the katana through different cabs openback vs closed, v30's vs creamback etc
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
the speaker is hard wired into the katana. I want to mod it for speaker swapping though, hearing both these amps through the same speaker might be a revealing experience. When i had the vox mv50 it sounded almost identical to an AC15 when they were run through the same speaker.
@harrispapadakis8523
@harrispapadakis8523 5 жыл бұрын
@@60CycleHumcast aaah yes I had in mind the head version and I forgot that needs a mod Looking forward to it!
@davedynamite77
@davedynamite77 5 жыл бұрын
All solid state amps can do a OK clean sound....it's the high gain a d plexiglass sounds that determine a good analog solid state amp...
@jhhorvath1
@jhhorvath1 3 жыл бұрын
I feel just the opposite. I cut my teeth playing a 1965 Fender Vibrolux Reverb for 25 years, and find that solid state or modeling amps can’t quite get the clean tones right. I think it’s easy to get overdriven tones to sound good on a solid state or modeling amp, but the cleans? They just pale to what a Fender black-face amp does. Your mileage may vary.
@stephencarter8625
@stephencarter8625 5 жыл бұрын
On the crunch setting the Katana was set to a lesser volume than the Nextone! We all should know that an increase in volume is too often equated to a better sound.... Just saying
@profd65
@profd65 5 жыл бұрын
Butthurt Katana owner obviously. There are a lot of you on this page, who think your $200 amp is the finest thing the mind of man has ever conceived.
@Timbo6669
@Timbo6669 5 жыл бұрын
You watch, the next boss amp will have the kat pre-amp selection added with the Nextone power amp selector, all with a waza speaker. AND it will cost $1200..Just wait.
@patrickperry6898
@patrickperry6898 5 жыл бұрын
That will be a good amp
@MrBossei
@MrBossei 5 жыл бұрын
Nextone much more open sounding. The problem with Katana 50 is that the sound is ”locked in” (because of the small enclosure I suppose). Thats why I sold my Katana 50. The Katana 100 is better.
@thornwivans
@thornwivans 5 жыл бұрын
Would help if they were at the same volume
@aruvirk587
@aruvirk587 5 жыл бұрын
Nice guitar choice for the video
@Tarsan97
@Tarsan97 2 жыл бұрын
I see comparisons like this before. They sound naturally different always so do the speakers that are mounted in them. It is possible to get sound so similar that the difference becomes almost academical given the speakers are same size, but then you must try to create one ( like the Katana) to sound as a copy of the other one. I seen this done on youtube using computers and stuff to measure the graphs of the tone frequency's. Work with that for a while and I think you will come close.
@andersierra8757
@andersierra8757 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the name of your surf group??
@anusrepairman
@anusrepairman 5 жыл бұрын
dinosaur Ghost
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
thanks! ;-)
@JimmyWatfordGuitar
@JimmyWatfordGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
So hey come on were talking solid states here. Ive tried the katana and i was unable to get a sound that i liked. It took me less than a minute to like the sound of the nextone. I'd like to own a nextone, but it doesnt sound much better than my orangecr60. So I'll keep my orange for now.
@anthonysclafani3963
@anthonysclafani3963 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison between the Nextone and a Katana using sneaky amps. Those sneaky amps are fantastic
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
man, that would be an extensive video, theres a lot of ground to cover with those sneaky amps.
@Dartheomus
@Dartheomus 5 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to pass on the "NextOne" and hold out for the Boss "YetAnotherOne" amp coming soon.
@sampark17
@sampark17 5 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed they release an amp that has the effects of the Katana, the Bluetooth capabilities of the Air and the tube emulation of the Nextone!
@milotin2755
@milotin2755 4 жыл бұрын
When you think you're funny and shoot your shot but no one cares
@TheEchelon
@TheEchelon 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with waiting for a couple years then.
@Dartheomus
@Dartheomus 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheEchelon Woosh
@JHPRS
@JHPRS 5 жыл бұрын
I would really like to compare the Nextone Artist and the Blues Cube Artist, as I own the later. The Blues Cube sells for about $250 more then the Nextone, but they use the same Tube Logic tech. The Blues Cube can use Tone Capsules, but the Nextone has power tube emulations. Also, the Nextone can use an external speaker, but Blues Cube Artist cannot. So, tone wise, I wonder how they compare. :)
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The tech platforms are more similar between the two, but alas, we work with what we have. - steve
@JHPRS
@JHPRS 5 жыл бұрын
@@60CycleHumcast I wasn't really asking for you to demo those two amps, I guess I should have just asked it as a question. Do you know why there is a $250.00 price difference between the Nextone Artist and the Blues Cube Artist, when they are so similar? Outside of the Blues Cube being able to use Tone Capsules, the Nextone can choose power amp sims, which is pretty versatile. Are you paying more for the Roland name or is the build quality better in the Blues Cube? :)
@60CycleHumcast
@60CycleHumcast 5 жыл бұрын
@@JHPRS Ah, gotcha. I'm not really sure. I do think the inclusion of the Tone Capsule circuitry may have a bit to do with it. Overall I think the Blues Cube looks better, but looks shouldn't necessarily push the price up. - steve
@eliash.6142
@eliash.6142 5 жыл бұрын
at 3:50 right off the bat, your picture shows less treble on the nextone, is it any wonder that it is warmer and katana is brighter? Not a very trustworthy comparison this one...
@jimmyjimmy951
@jimmyjimmy951 5 жыл бұрын
I should get the next tone and run it alongside my Katana Artist.... Wicked sound I would hazard a guess...
@PelicanIslandLabs
@PelicanIslandLabs 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't like either when you cranked up the gain. Both sounded like screeching cats in a bag. I say that as a long term fan of the Kat 100.
@sixfoursoul2538
@sixfoursoul2538 5 жыл бұрын
Like the 100 dosent sound like searching cats turned up ? lol
@TheZimmy84
@TheZimmy84 3 жыл бұрын
I have the nextone Special, boss katana 100, and a fender hot rod deluxe. they are all three really great. the Fender an nextone take pedals like a beast. they all have different sounds if you set them at 12 o clock.
@mkrj2576
@mkrj2576 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. If you only needed cleans, clean w dirt, OD - no pedals, which one would you pick? The Kat or the Nextone?
@JohnGalt539
@JohnGalt539 5 жыл бұрын
They both sound harsh as hell, I hate Katana's overdriven channels, tried Nextone wasn't impressed either, I have Katana 100 since it came out and the amp is great but I swapped the speaker for Celestion g12, and I use Angry Driver distortion for the gain and it sounds killer, I bought foot controller and expression pedal at this point it's $750 amp, and that's allot of money I wish I could've spend on Marshall DSL 40 instead.
@liedgitarrist
@liedgitarrist 5 жыл бұрын
😂poor guy! 😉
@liedgitarrist
@liedgitarrist 5 жыл бұрын
But I know exactly what you mean. The clean channel with a good overdrive or distortion fed into it sounds a lot better than the dirty channels.
@TheDyingScotsman
@TheDyingScotsman 5 жыл бұрын
The KTN 100 is not $750, we pay more in Australia and it only cost $500.
@liedgitarrist
@liedgitarrist 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheDyingScotsman with the things he added it was 750. 😉
@jamjar20049
@jamjar20049 5 жыл бұрын
Take a listen to Paul Stafford Cook playing his Kat100 with no pedals. Not harsh at all. He shares his settings at the end of the video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJ61eairYsuKrdE Ian
@jws2
@jws2 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with all the transistor amps is they will give you 10k sounds. I don't want 10k amp simulations that mostly are junk. I just want ONE great sound that I have in my head! I use a H&K Tubemister 18 with 2 12" cabs. That right a 18 watt tube amp. It's loud enough to play small and medium size rooms and when we play large rooms or outside shows I just mike it or run directly to the board. The best part is when we go to the studio I just bring my little amp in it's carry case and my guitar. If they ever make a transistor amp that just makes one great sound with all the nuances of a tube circuit I'm in. The manufacturers need to quit trying to make a amp that tries to make 10k different amp tones. I think if they spent their time emulating one great tube circuit they would be far better off. Just my two cents.
@robertforbes6083
@robertforbes6083 4 жыл бұрын
The Orange Pro 60/120 series is just that. A transistor amp with one great tube-like circuit (based on the Rockaverb). No modeling; just great tone.
@joelbizzle4174
@joelbizzle4174 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah stereo with both!!!! Best of both worlds
@cayceburks8854
@cayceburks8854 5 жыл бұрын
Nextone has the presence all the way up on the drive, I don’t think the Katana has a presence knob? Great comparison video!
@djencode
@djencode 5 жыл бұрын
Presence is a menu item in the software.
@tommyd688
@tommyd688 4 жыл бұрын
I own a Kat 100 that I have had for over a year.. I also own a Nextone Stage for 2 months now. So I have the flip side of your review in a way. If both amps are sitting side by side I will always choose the Nextone ... It just sounds better to me. Note I am only an at home player so a gigging player will have different takes .. The main knock I have heard on the Nextone is that for some it just does not have sufficient headroom for gigging and most feel the Kat is better at high gain stuff... Both a non issue for me. That said, comparing amps serves a purpose but the comparisons are only as useful as the person doing the tweaking .. This is not a knock on you Ryan, just a fact that any reviewer will face. These amps with all their EQ,ing settings can be made to sound pretty much however a user wants them to sound, provided the user know what they are doing and has the time to do the tweaking. We've all seen the reviews where someone bought a Katana and returned it in 2 days or so.. Then they go on to make comparisons with their $1000+ Tube amp. Somewhat impossible to take a review like that seriously imo.. I think it is also a fact that sometimes person A, can't dial a tone in to save their life, where person B, is a master at getting the tone they want.. For my use the Nextone is my preference. I like the Nextone Editor software Much better than Kat Tone Studio. It is much more streamlined and gives better control over the amp section imo. I find it is much easier/simpler to get tones I like with the NT. The Kat with all it offers, I feel like I am paying for a lot of over kill and features I have no use for. The Katana line is quite the bargain though.. No mistake there at all. Now that I've been using the NT for a couple of months I see no reason not to sell my Katana.. I simply don't have much need for it.
@baronvonchickenpants6564
@baronvonchickenpants6564 4 жыл бұрын
I gig my 100watt katana on the 50watt setting with the volumes around 60% and the master around 30% believe me it's plenty loud enough, I can't see the nextone being any different
@mkrj2576
@mkrj2576 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm torn between the Kat Artist and the NT for my upgrade for the Kat 50. Don't need all the stuff with the Kat. Just a few good classic tones. Does the tone of the NT sound that much better. I'm getting either the Kat Artist or NT Spec.
@PracticalGuitarist
@PracticalGuitarist 5 жыл бұрын
I mean the Nextone sounds better, but for $500-$700 you can get a LOT of really nice tube amps. I mean, it's in Marshall Origin territory or even Used Princeton territory for that matter. I will be going to play the Nextone, but I don't think I'll be wanting to shell out. -- But hey, I'm not their target market for this anyway so what do I know?
@kirbonite
@kirbonite Ай бұрын
I would definitely choose the next one over the katana if it weren't for the fact. I love acoustic guitar as well and play about 50/50 acoustic to electric. The katana is the only amp I know that can do both equally well. Love the look of the nextone as well.
@danwhite8200
@danwhite8200 5 жыл бұрын
I'll reserve judgment until I compare them side by side on my own. The audio for the Nextone appear to be brighter but also louder than the Katana. At this point, it's sounding like a little hype. The cabinet difference will contribute to a less boxy sound from the Nextone. Kind of like a Blues Jr because of it's cab size. Good review though. Not sold on the price difference. The Nextone with the Katana effects with more programmable effects and banks would be perfect!
@zazoomatt
@zazoomatt 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this! I will keep my Katana 2x12.truth it is New & can not afford the Nextone I think............maybe......
@timothymccune2101
@timothymccune2101 5 жыл бұрын
I have the boss katana 50 sounds good enough not to spend the extra money on the Nexton .could get me another project guitar with the extra money.
@lexdelosreyes
@lexdelosreyes 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Tele
@davewalsh3885
@davewalsh3885 5 жыл бұрын
The Nextone seems to have better definition according to my old ears. It has what I describe as better "cut".
@joethompson2910
@joethompson2910 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe cuz the presence is turned up on the Nextone and the 50 doesn't have a presence control... 100 kat does... maybe that would be a better comparison... I could be wrong but just sayin...
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