Hi everyone! People asked when Sophie and I will continue this series. Unfortunately our real work has been busy and it's been hard to record everything we want. If you'd like to help us focus more on our content, kindly consider www.patreon.com/sinclairlore :) Thank you for all your kind words and support!!
@RazorusR3X7774 жыл бұрын
You could say the Old One is the.... ...ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
@danielrhodes5484 жыл бұрын
Cristian Davis yet still BRANCHES OUT into miracle making.
@kirbytaylor86294 жыл бұрын
I dunno... that seems like a rather TRUNKated description
@casitive4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: I LOVE PUNS. OMG THESE ARE ALL GREAT.
@steven42184 жыл бұрын
Round of applause for Sinclair! Her interview style (and the Angelic Outline) has really improved! Lots of basic questions to establish a groundwork understanding of often overlooked design choices. Great work Sin and Richard!
@danielrhodes5484 жыл бұрын
This is a great series! So much cool discussion. Really enjoyed that you guys actually ask each other what the Soul is in Demon’s Souls. This game in particular as well as Dark Souls 2 and to some extent Bloodborne illustrate the nature of FromSoft souls. I think the Nuclear reactor is a fair comparison, but you can also see the Soul as the seat of consciousness that inhabits a living thing, AND how the world, inhabitants and events in history surrounding this being are effected. The soul is the combination of a life, how this life perceives itself and how others perceive it. It is also the reality it shapes around itself by interacting with its environment. Astrea is a Saint and a Demon. Her Demon Soul is the Pureblood Soul denoting her own noble blood, her nature as an ascended Demon because it is a DEMON soul after all, as well as letting us know of her pure intentions to help the weak. Still she resides in the Valley of defilement and the place seems no better for her intentions. Even the aborted fetuses rise from the filth to kill and maim thanks to her. She is pure, yet corrupt. Saint, yet Demon. Her followers are twisted and suffering, yet hopeful and devout. Her domain is tranquil in its solitude yet oppressively vile and violent when entered by an outsider. These truths are all her Soul in a way. For a simpler example of what I’m saying you can look at what the Pureblood Soul can be made into. Pureblood Demon's Soul Usage The Pureblood Demon's Soul can be used to ascend a Broken Sword into the Blueblood Sword. It can also be used to purchase the spell Death Cloud from Sage Freke, the spell Relief from Yuria the Witch, or the miracle Resurrection from Saint Urbain. Now think of how each person you bring the Soul to would view Astrea through their own personal judgement. A humble, broken sword can be forged into a Noble weapon: Astrea’s view on the Valley of Defilement and the denizens therein. The refuse being forged into morally upright protectors of their homes. A poisonous spell can weaken and take power from one’s enemies: Freke’s point of view on rebelling against organized religion and that religious figures are themselves poisonous. Also that the soul is a means to gain and use power. A spell can be crafted that relieves the suffering of others and revitalizes their life force: Yuria’s sympathetic view toward Astrea being a fellow woman of power who has been labeled corrupt and evil for her use of it, but she knows personally the cost of that power and suspects the Maiden does as well. The miracle returns a phantom near the caster back to their corporeal flesh, without consent of the disembodied: Freke’s point of view that Astrea’s “true” nature is that of the Church’s “Saint.” So his COUNTERSIGN (his denial of her whole truth/soul) is about returning a being some might view as higher back to their corporeal, “NATURAL” form. The miracle sets things BACK to THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE via the view of Saint Urbain and the Church. In short, the soul is consciousness, power, memory, sanity, personality, reputation, potential and also more than the sum of its parts. I hope this all made sense. Keep up the good work you guys.
@phiengley4 жыл бұрын
Someone in the Souls Modding server recently datamined first person arms in Demon's Souls' files, so going third person may have been Miyazaki's call actually an the game was gonna be a fairly standard King's Field game originally
@deathbyslipknot4 жыл бұрын
Link?
@davideo72864 жыл бұрын
Regarding the point JSF was making and how Demon Souls the soul gives you power but can also turn you into a demon and in blood-borne the blood is what turns you into a beast, it's an interesting note in the Dark Souls games as well in that in the first two soles is the driving force of power and by the time of Dark Souls 3 there begins to be more of a shift into consuming and imbibing the blood of the Dark Soul
@xenolaliasa4 жыл бұрын
I think the questions wrt the nature of what makes a deity in this game are really interesting because, as was sort of mentioned, Armored Core For Answer is entirely about how godhood is attainable through sheer incontestable violence
@casitive4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a thing I'm working on too with regard to my thinking right now on ST:A and how I wanna attack a written essay.
@xenolaliasa4 жыл бұрын
@@casitive that sounds hella cool. I've always wanted to play ST:A since i saw an LP thread expecting it to be the usual Fromsoft situation, but then the first screen shot was just a colt handgun.
@casitive4 жыл бұрын
@@xenolaliasa That might have been Allison's thread on SA. ST:A is pretty great and weird. And, well, FromSoftware. 500 different weapons and items from all sorts of different traditions because ... Spaceship Upside Down Growing Tree. Also, bazookas.
@SEMIA1234 жыл бұрын
Deep Tree Lore
@Omgfloryellowhi4 жыл бұрын
I NEED TREES OF DARK SOULS
@bryankelly3354 жыл бұрын
*_THE OLD ONE IS A PRINCESS_*
@SinclairLore4 жыл бұрын
Kelly is the champion!
@bryankelly3354 жыл бұрын
@@SinclairLore You already know *_:)_*
@scholaroftheworstgame33134 жыл бұрын
Great discussion all. Richie quickly mentions and moves past something I believe to be crucial for understanding all of the games at ~49m, yall should talk about that more if you haven't already. That aside, I would like to propose that the Old One is essentially the Terrestrial counterpart to the Cosmic / Oceanic Great Ones of Bloodborne. While humanity is making the kind of technological 'progress' in the absence of the Old One and the Soul Arts, it could be the case that its waning influence and possible eventual absence - perhaps slumber - was felt/heard throughout the cosmos and led to the other Great Ones competing over the 'spoils' of a 'vulnerable' and newly 'godless' humanity/earth. It's also possible that this is a recurring event or cyclical geo-cosmological process that potentially corresponds with the awakening and banishing/sedating/subduing/whatever of the Old one, such that the past periods of Old One Sleep line up with past periods of heightened cosmic influence/power i.e. blood moons etc.
@scholaroftheworstgame33134 жыл бұрын
During periods of Old One ascendancy, patronage and worship of the extraterrestrial Great Ones would be literally and metaphorically driven underground (respectively exemplified in Pthumeru and Cainhurst) mirroring the way history and various civilizations have been buried or otherwise sequestered in either the earth itself or various Nightmares.
@OutsideTheHempenStrainds4 жыл бұрын
Those two accounts of God don't conflict. God clearly exists in this world. And the humans have misunderstood. They don't comprehend God clearly imo and just think their soul powers are God when it was always the old one.
@ancientflames4 жыл бұрын
I love all the discussion about this but I gurantee 90% of the stuff in these games is just "because it sounded or looked cool, or because it fit in well with other characters and concepts we made"
@Sitruk864 жыл бұрын
hey man, thats still better than "because i saw it in Berserk"
@Agent_Funk4 жыл бұрын
I always thought The Old One looked like a giant bag worm.
@alienbutlerblunders54646 ай бұрын
Great chat
@SinclairLore4 жыл бұрын
Nexus is a Prison Part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5fKk2aJpcqmo8U Demon's Souls Translations Part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ_Je6OEh7qCmLM& Demon's Souls Translations Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3fKaWZql6qBrc0&
@pabloraulpereyra49484 жыл бұрын
It podcast remember me final fantasy IX. Here the lifa tree is blocking the soul flow thought world and creating a fog who spawn monster and war
@umairkhalid22224 жыл бұрын
These podcasts are always enjoyable thank you for putting them together sin
@Kucoz4 жыл бұрын
I love the pirate voice too
@OutsideTheHempenStrainds4 жыл бұрын
Random but going with the demon souls 2 speculation. Do we think the moon presence could have originally been the maiden in black, we thinj the beach arena was the bottom of the chalice, perhaps that was a connection at one point. Just spewing thoughts haha
@SinclairLore4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember why, but I was talking to Richie and also said "is the maiden in black, the mp?" XD
@OutsideTheHempenStrainds4 жыл бұрын
@@SinclairLoregreat minds and all that haha 🤫
@joshk4943 жыл бұрын
Hey! Is there really a part 3? I can't find it on KZbin or Patreon and it's making me sad! I want to listen to it so baaaaad!
@SinclairLore3 жыл бұрын
Hi :) due to our irl stuff (work, family, since we do youtube as a hobby) we didn't have time to do part 3 yet, but it will happen one day!
@joshk4943 жыл бұрын
@@SinclairLore ohhhhhh I didn't realize it doesn't exist yet I just thought it was missing 😅 thank you for replying!
@robbybobby33154 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if they had death cutscenes for bosses
@ancientflames4 жыл бұрын
Armored core VI when
@christreanor19484 жыл бұрын
Is part 3 on Patreon????
@MarionetteDuAuguste4 жыл бұрын
ITS HERE
@darkstarmike854 жыл бұрын
What if the irrevocable poison is humanity.
@TheEvilHumanist4 жыл бұрын
"Found a Mental." - 11:35
@robertst.pierre13414 жыл бұрын
Wheres part 3?
@robbybobby33154 жыл бұрын
It says in the intro god placed the old one so how can it be god