NFL 2k5 Was Amazing

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[@DJATLphilly]

The fact that 2K even had the announcer say the players names even though they really didn't know who they were is fantastic.

[@j.peters1222]

Just imagine what they could do with modern hardware if they actually tried!

[@ervinghenderson4780]

The 2K announcers sounded as if they were actually calling a game.

[@thelonias1814]

"POLA-MALOO"

[@Insult2myIntelligence]

Literally, every sports game will use names not in game if you select a name included in the game.

[@emill910gaming6]

@@Insult2myIntelligence madden doesn't do it. Or at least not recently they haven't done it.

[@vastyandrews2631]

Another thing i love about running in 2K5 is when you run into the back of your offensive linemen, the runner actually squeezes by, rather than in Madden where the runner runs into their offensive linemen and falls over.

[@fishscaley]

Or he'll stick his hand out to push off or steer the olinemen

[@ryanfogel5395]

This sounds minor but it’s a complete dealbreaker for me and why I still play 2K5

[@ZacharyBrodka]

Or the linemen just suction tackles you.

[@matrf]

That's not what happens. The defensive player can suck the runningback right through the offensive lineman... Simulation..

[@politicalgangster9395]

In the older maddens you could squeeze by by pressing L1 and R1

[@txmwxl]

i wish this game could get remastered with updated rosters, player models and UI.. but only a man can dream.

[@joelmoody8983]

Well, 2K can make football games now.

[@daenbermudez3740]

But not simulation games

[@txmwxl]

Joel Moody not simulation unfortunately

[@joelmoody8983]

Green Bean wait until 2025

[@NoePulloutski]

Get pcsx2 for pc, download the game and turn graphics to 4k. Also find a roster save file for ps2. They have updated rosters for this.

[@flyty7590]

This game is simply incredible. ESPN presentation was stellar

[@MrSucc-fp7rt]

Imagine if we could get this as backwards compatibility... So sad.

[@oreox1000]

I’ve said to people that Microsoft could win this console generation by saying this, All-Pro, and NCAA titles are backwards compatible.

[@caseclass1224]

@@oreox1000 I have held on to my copy of ncaa 14 in hopes it will become backwards compatible.

[@Benger2185]

Just hold on to your xbox/xbox 360-which is backwards compatible I beieve/ ps2/ PS3 with the ps2 hardware in it/ software emulators from PC, and run the game. We need a community. Start buying 2k5 and 2k8 wherever you can find them because we have to send the message to consumers and the video game world.

[@Akumaa2000]

Mr. Succ You can, PS5 will use virtual machine technology thru PS Now where it’ll mimic the operating systems of PS1 PS2 PS3.......you’ll be able to download older games or put in the physical discs to play them. (PS now on PS5 is nothing like we see it now on PS4, it’s been completely revamped and built from the ground up for PS5) Hip hop gamer explained all this in a video interview he did this past Wednesday with a former Sony rep, forgot the guys name but he’s very well known.

[@alexanderhobbs5963]

@@Akumaa2000 if you can find it ... post it here bro .... i saw it it was in patent.... cause if this is true ... im buy a PS5

[@mrymkos]

The movements and fluidity of the commentary is light years ahead of madden now. If only this game survived I can’t imagine where it would be at today.

[@FFAR05]

It would probably be self aware and sending robots back through time to kill John Madden

[@ervinghenderson4780]

What was great about 2K5 is that realistic football mattered. You weren't going to put in your backup QB and just throw the ball all over the field. If you tried to run the same "cheese" plays the CPU would pick up on it because your gameplay was tracked. No, it wasn't by any means a perfect game. But Madden being so awful is why 2K5 is still relevant 16 years and 3 console generations later.

[@Akumaa2000]

Erving Henderson Exactly.

[@Maal7432]

Facts. The computer would make adjustments, unlike Madden, and it would carry over from your V.I.P. on the next game.

[@daquanmcdonald7104]

It wasn't perfect but at least it made sense

[@michaelwilliams7120]

It was perfect

[@dupree7575]

I miss playing 2kFootball video games. This was the last of the golden era For Football video games.

[@Benger2185]

"Just hold on to your xbox/xbox 360-which is backwards compatible I beieve/ ps2/ PS3 with the ps2 hardware in it/ software emulators from PC, and run the game. We need a community. Start buying 2k5 and 2k8 wherever you can find them because we have to send the message to consumers and the video game world."

[@2stepaheadYOU]

@@Benger2185 There already is a pretty big community I play it on 360. Working on getting it working for my pc

[@Maal7432]

Facts.

[@lilbthebasedgod2054]

Msizzl3 working on getting all pro 2k8 for pc? If so how so?

[@2stepaheadYOU]

@@lilbthebasedgod2054 I miss spoke I want to get it for 360 i think it is possible to play on PC with ps3 emulation but that one is much less polished than pcsx2 I have nfl 2k5 on PC

[@joshsmith7492]

This game was decades ahead of it's time I literally learned so much about football from this game with that trivia box you had by the bar best football game ever made and it's no fucking contest

[@Maal7432]

Privateo Privy The only bad thing about All-Pro Football, is you can shift your defensive line presnap. Otherwise, that game would be perfect.

[@tripleoo0]

The thing is, it wasn't ahead of its time. Madden 05 wasn't far behind at the time, even though it lagged a little bit behind in the true simulation aspect. They just ended up slashing content with every new console generation to focus on graphical improvements, and never replaced any of those assets.

[@tripleoo0]

Even then, the depth of the franchise mode is something no Madden game has replicated since the move to the PS3. That was 16 years ago now. Madden 05 was still a good game, even if there were better contemporaries. There has not been a Madden that could even manage to be better than its previous iteration in years. Also, naturally, it helps the realism of a broadcast when you actually use the ESPN license. It was still well-executed on 2K5's part, of course, but having that familiar aesthetic to work with is a huge asset.

[@pdaddy879]

@@tripleoo0 I think Madden 05 was the best football game of all time

[@tripleoo0]

To each their own. I prefer 2K5 to Madden 05, but like I said, Madden 05 was still an objectively good game, and I can understand people that enjoyed it more. Either one is far superior to any Madden made for a console newer than the PS2. The newer they get, the more content gets slashed from franchise mode and the more investment is put into pay-to-win modes like MUT.

[@allthatremainsx6]

I remember when I got this game, never thought id still be playing it 16 years later, but madden still hasn't caught up

[@ryanfogel5395]

I finally caved in 2010 and bought madden and was stunned. 2K5 was still better. In 2020, EA still hasn’t caught up

[@daquanmcdonald7104]

Madden fell back instead of catching up

[@tavog8150]

I bought for 20$ on christmas the year it came out

[@93dirtyd]

I saw something amazing when playing All-Pro football 2K8 the other day. I was throwing a pass and getting rushed heavily when the defender jumped to block my pass, my quarterback changed his throwing motion and made a side arm throw around him and completed the pass. I had to watch the replay three or four times it was seriously awesome.

[@anthonygill4795]

The price The depth The realism The care The facts: Celebs, cribs actual interviews where your character speaks..... Also..it plays music from your own console....... ..... I loved scoring touchdowns and then have Miss E elliot's "work it" playing in the background

[@bos9824]

The helmet reflections

[@DeadlyDanDaMan]

Details are what make or break a game. It's part of the "immersion" factor, which is HUGE in the gaming world.

[@TerrisLP]

Madden has so little immersion too

[@joshprice7527]

16 years later and it’s still the best football game to ever be released. thats saying something

[@luispolanco5966]

Lots of people play it on PC with modern rosters. It's great.

[@joshprice7527]

Luis Polanco yea i really wish i had one

[@damiankostur8654]

No it ain't lol

[@myco9253]

2k8 has the best gameplay, but 2k5 is overall the best football game ever made.

[@criticalthinker8013]

@@myco9253 yea but 2k5 still has very good gameplay

[@PopOutPaulie]

Remember when you could download songs off a cd to your Xbox and then you could use the songs as stadium music for different things in the game. 15 years later and somehow we can't do it

[@rob9822]

I went and picked up a PS2 and a Copy of NFL 2k5 yesterday and I’m not even mad nor embarrassed to be playing it in 2020

[@forreps5038]

Did the same a year ago and dont regret it.

[@Steven-ik2yf]

It's still a good game but Xbox was the much better version to play it though

[@rob9822]

@@Steven-ik2yf That’s what I kept hearing. Unfortunately, the only place close to me that sold retro games didn’t have any original Xbox consoles. I was so bummed out because they had 2 Copies of 2k5 for the Original Xbox just no consoles. Couldn’t wait so I went with the PS2. Since then, I’ve ordered NCAA ‘06 & NCAA ‘07 for PS2. Both of those games were amazing (Just My Opinion)

[@jayhowell8814]

I believe it’s backwards compatible on the Xbox 360. So you can enjoy it over glorious hdmi.

[@rob9822]

@@jayhowell8814 Unfortunately I don’t have consistent Internet Service to be able to download what’s needed for the backwards compatibility...

[@spacebeagle8550]

So wild that Larry is in the original 2k5 roster and the user updated ones!

[@octavio.cantu.]

He’s not the only one

[@spacebeagle8550]

@@octavio.cantu. I know Big Ben is there, and probably some kickers, but that longevity at WR is something else!

[@cainbutler6291]

And so is Tom Brady of course lol The GOAT

[@trealpowell945]

Playing Madden doesn’t feel like authentic NFL football if that makes sense

[@joelmoody8983]

Madden was never the same since Ultimate Team was introduced.

[@Benger2185]

That's because Madden wasn't meant to be authentic. The originator of madden football wanted 7 on 7 football, and John Madden wanted 11 on 11, so they've always been at odds from the jump. What madden covers is hype, and arcade-style sports gaming. 2K, is all the way Simulation, algorithm based simulation as close as it could get.

[@SammySam7x]

A db intercepted a bullet pass at the line of scrimmage. It was intended for a tight end 10+ yards down field. Madden is not even close to authentic.. that's some NFL blitz shit

[@EagleZtoTheGrave]

@@SammySam7x 😂 lololol To be fair... Stuff like that has happened, not often but its happened. Thing is, with it being a game there will be some off stuff that happens time to time, but that stands out 100% more when the rest of the game is unforgivable.

[@kbholla]

It does. And you're not going to have many people disagree.

[@canadian2fur532]

You should really make a video on challenging a play in 2k5, I remember it being incredibly in depth with multiple choices so you could choose exactly what you wanted to challenge. Man I miss this game. Damn you EA!!

[@joem4686]

Lol, I have yet even be able to challenge a single play in Madden 21... infuriating!!

[@LA67895]

Tackling looks spot on and in 21 it just seems like players collide

[@supersoldier6443]

Tackling in Madden 21 are Animations, and don't get me wrong, it's the same in 2K5, *BUT* weight, height, and momentum is used in 2K5, while in Madden it's all the same animations

[@scorpiocanuck6321]

I love this game. It came with a book that told you how every team played and where the team was going. Detail is important

[@bckelly23]

NFL 2k on Dreamcast is a classic.

[@Tauttuk]

In franchise mode its very difficult to upgrade players, where in madden you have a few training sessions to upgrade a select few but preparations throughout the week before the team game, everyone stats are effected weather its positive or negative ratings. If a player is injured you can spend time to help recover injured players. Options include surgery, hot/cold baths, immobilize, physical therapy, ultra sound and a few more options. Ive yet to go through a week to have more then 2 postions have positive weekly ratings while every other postions have negative effects. Franchise is fun but scouting draft prospects seems very shallow. In franchise mode you can hold team meetings with a plethora of emotional options ranging from, happy, hopeful, content to unhappy to down right furious. Its not just gameplay and presentation but the options to effect team morel, individual skill/physical ratings run 1st/2nd/3rd team practices, 7 on 7 drills to having half/full days off. Put postions on diets, do Pilates, yoga, leadership, meditation, high protein diets, flexibility sessions, with more options. While you can also put postions through acrobatics or weight training. Add to all those options you also have postion drills and study film for your next opponent. Nfl2k5 franchise mode is *deep* .

[@allendennis8267]

As a person with a huge bias toward this game, this game is still downright gorgeous in so many ways. A golden era of football games, and just overall a better place for the country at that time. Damn I need to lay off the member berries lol

[@luispolanco5966]

The halftime show got me hooked.

[@allendennis8267]

Oh yea, the presentation of this game was definitely one of its best features.

[@DEvs-75]

Absolutely amazing. Best football game ever period! AP2K8 is second best.

[@johnsanko4136]

It's sad that Madden has the exclusivity contract with the NFL so that 2K can't make another NFL 2K game. But the XFL is coming back in 2022, which is just enough time for a good development cycle, if you catch my drift.

[@johnsanko4136]

@Privateo Privy As long as the Madden contract is enforced, 2k21 won't be like 2k5 or Madden as "simulation" football. They'll be forced to do something different, in the vein of NFL Blitz or NFL Street to keep EA from opening a lawsuit for breach of contract.

[@tsw11385]

I just hope xfl and 2k make a game Maybe with customisation options Then!!!! It’s on!!

[@Zcampos97]

Maybe they can get away with it if they make the models look unrealistic since that's all madden believes counts as simulation they could make them look super heroeish

[@Z64sports]

@@Zcampos97 Madden did that on Wii so no that wouldn't work

[@jesseflores8752]

I don't know if you heard but the contract with EA over 2K is coming back next year and hopefully it's a good football game

[@jmo2944]

The first time I played 2k8, Walter Peyton did his high step, Marino had his throwing motion. Couldn't replicate that in Madden for years.

[@mr.b5663]

Madden still don’t have it

[@phillyboy5135]

This game was way ahead of its time! If developers could implement what's in this game with current gen graphics, it would be a major win.

[@keyz_inc7305]

Yes!! This was a great game!!!

[@adamhollister3434]

Damn, even on old limited hardware. The game still plays such a smooth, realistic game of football. You could easily break down each and every part of a play and use it in real life to demonstrate concepts and schemes. And then they went though all the trouble of adding in even the tiniest of details that you would see in the stadium AND a real-life ESPN broadcast. Commentary not required. The game speaks for itself.

[@sou7glo]

The ref running up the sideline during the running play was great to see!

[@prizm2807]

I never skipped the intro, the halftime show or the post game show. Always looked forward to the Weekly Show after all the games where played in a week too see the highlights and the Updates and Trades and signings around the league. Its all adds up to a more immersive feeling.

[@DrZionth]

Never stop making these

[@Jrodsly]

All the resources that EA has access to, and instead of doing what 2K did for realism so people like Dubby don't look foolish defending a product that PS2 games easily outpace, they spend time making cringe inducing Spokesplayer ads, use motion captures for literally pointless celebrations, and focus on punt ratings for defensive backs. I'd rather play 2K5, 2K8, and Strat-O-Matic than any Madden in the past 15 years or the next 15 years.

[@jamesbelkin9204]

When my cousin and I get together we play this game for hours! Never a dull moment, great times

[@BigChuck777]

I still have a working Xbox 360 to play this game. Still the best!!!

[@gamernorcal]

i have the same and i also have my old ps2 slim with ncaa 04 , ncaa 06, and nfl 2k5

[@edwardjones1482]

Now I feel bad lol I didn’t even ask for this game not once but I have played it and I loved it

[@PlayThenReview]

yep this game and NCAA 14 are why I’ll always keep a 360 handy

[@BigChuck777]

@@gamernorcal nice!!!

[@BigChuck777]

@@edwardjones1482 if you like football, you will love this game!!

[@Banksofameri3a]

Lol what the hell was Watkins telling Conley on the sidelines 😂😂😂😂

[@SecondWindStories]

This channel is easily top 5 most important Football gaming channels. Keep up the good work. It saddens me what Football video games have been reduced to. 2k5 was a gem.

[@tigerpride736]

The longer videos on 2k are a great addition!

[@Cyxzp]

I used to play this all the time back in 2013 and thought the same thing. Good video

[@XconnorX11]

Madden doesn't realize that we don't care about how realistic the blades of grass or player's tattoos look. We care about the experience. 2K5 was the most immersive experience ever. I mean literally at halftime they had generated clips from other games going on that week. You truly felt a part of the football world. We need this back

[@tomc5435]

"we" lol

[@lilbrezzy1]

The nostalgia 😌 2k made you want to actually play the game with the small stuff not just gameplay

[@nirvanajunkie19]

It'd make a huge difference to me and my level of immersion if Madden had four rotating commentary teams, one for each major network.

[@CRCamp86]

I remember the day I got NFL 2K5 for the Xbox... July 20th 2004, $19.99 at launch... We couldn't believe it back then and I can't believe that it's still being talked about and praised so much now. Also, it should be noted that Tecmo was in talks with Microsoft about releasing a new Tecmo Bowl for the Xbox weeks ahead of that fateful licensing crisis... 🙄

[@Skybound.]

Dan Stevens! (the guy who announces Axis Football) is in this game!

[@vastyandrews2631]

NFL 2K5 is still amazing

[@kingsleyjackson8287]

NFL 2k was a threat to madden

[@arhickernell]

I played a game of this a few nights back on my ps2. I hadn't played this game in like 10years or even turned on my ps2 in like 5 years. This game is still the best football game there is...period

[@bobbymcculley6814]

What every football game hopes to be when it grows up

[@inherguts2747]

THANK YOU . THIS IS WAT WE NEED IN A FOOTBALL GAME ALL DETAILS!!.

[@NickJaime]

It's the details that make the story, it's the details that make the theme more immersive.

[@manuelsalazar3078]

This why I love nfl 2k5 the plays and the announcers also the cheerleaders on halftime

[@deshawnmcgraw8694]

Chris Berman made this game

[@cappy2282]

I remember playing NCAA 2k back in the day and beastin with Leftwich lol

[@imthierno9327]

Last time I was this early Clint was a backup

[@joelmoody8983]

Does Clint count as an NFL player?

[@imthierno9327]

Joel Moody yes but Actually no

[@PrezPoet]

2K should take a leaf out of the THPS book and release a game which uses the code base from their old games but with present day graphical capabilities.

[@jimmyv3170]

This game is the only NFL game I've ever enjoyed playing for weeks upon weeks back then.

[@gseric4721]

Man, Iupati is a name I haven't heard in quite some time. It's crazy Larry's still in the league doing his thing, and on the same team. He's a straight *LEGEND* for that.

[@barrylee9146]

Hard to fathom how good this game would be by now, thanks NFL ):

[@gabters215]

the presentation itself it's way better than Madden21. simply cuz in madden you see highlights from the game u about to play which makes no sense

[@ChadHellgado]

I know I was like what the fuck, where’d you get that footage from? I haven’t even gotten off the bench yet?

[@TruBuM]

Nostalgia 100% NFL2K5 G. O. A. T.

[@guccigucci5002]

NFL Fever series and 2k5 were best football games ever

[@joelmoody8983]

Don’t forget NCAA 14. Better career mode than Madden and 2K career modes combined.

[@Sneakycastro69]

I remember doing a project in 7th grade , It was about how TO was a Crybaby and I couldn’t get a good picture of him so I taped my 2k5 cover on it. 🤣 Those we’re the days… 😔

[@IAMBTJGAMING]

Glad I still have this game. The fact we are still talking about 2K5 15 years later says a lot. Even APF 2k8 is a classic

[@Matt-wf7ry]

If 2K took 2K5 and remastered it for next generation consoles and the PC, completely made up all the teams and players involved and did whatever changes needed where they wouldn't get sued by EA/NFL I would purchase it in a heartbeat.

[@adam99x2004]

Chris Fuammma...ahh.... Chris fu..a...one minute. Fu a ma tu mah a fal la. Chris Fuman..ah....... Love the outtakes of 2K5 :P

[@NickJaime]

Once this came out and EA became sole rights holders to make football. I knew it was over for the series.

[@EazyMoneyEntetainment]

I’ve never played the game but from what I’ve seen this looks kinda fun

[@ryanfogel5395]

It’s the best football game in 2020 and it was made 16 years ago

[@EazyMoneyEntetainment]

Ryan Fogel that’s tough

[@Chocobobob]

It was the shit

[@Akumaa2000]

loudpack It still is and will continue because we already know EA isn’t gonna improve Madden to even coming close to NFL2K5.

[@ronnibellino]

Get a ps2 and play it! It was a really good game back in ‘04. God I feel old!

[@peterpaul176]

I like The care 2k puts in the NBA pre game show. I never skip those.

[@KvatchIsInDanger]

I ran shit with the Eagles in this game.. loved it so much. Owens, McNabb, Dawkins, Wesbrook, LITO "SHUFFLE" SHEPPARD. The nostalgia is real. My Crib, VIP, first-person mode!? the extras alone were enough to keep me busy outside of franchise mode.

[@GeraldAlpinePerry]

The fact of the matter is EA knows fully how much 2K football was a dangerous product and if we have not seen presentation matched today it is because they want the public to forget about 2K football. Add to the fact having exclusive rights gives current management to go the lazy route.

[@warriorbear]

The devil is always in the details and the Line play alone is still light years better than madden... still!

[@Bill_8864]

it is immersive. You feel like your watching a real game & not a video game. It has personality, in the game play & in the commentary. I've said it before the older games just had the ability to make you feel like you were "in the Game" or "at the Game", or part of the game, but these new titles are so sterile & bland. You feel like you have no control & are along for the ride.

[@mkratos17]

Wish I could still play this game I don't have my copy anymore this game was so much fun

[@terryhamilton1196]

I feel bad for kids who never got to experience this game. Haha. Forever grateful 2k4 was my first game ever. Miss this game so bad.

[@vastyandrews2631]

10:25 yessss they should, they should make the game more realistic!

[@germanywho]

Best football game ever made 👏👏👏I like game breaker too and nfl game day nfl fever was cool too. Keep up good work RYAN👏👏👏

[@theoyancey]

i remember this being the only game where the announcer would actually say my last name while playing as a created player.

[@Gamesoldier68]

So refreshing to go back and play these games now after years of mediocre football releases. I'm still amazed at the plays I see in 2K5 and APF 2K8. EA was great once, I play NCAA 06, 11, and 14 and love these titles. I have found new respect for NCAA 11, amazing feeling football experience. NFL though, 2K5 was amazing as well as 2K8. Thanks for the video!

[@Deehulk888]

People will skip over the details because they have always played Madden and have never had a reason to look at the halftime show and stuff like that. As a 2k5 player, I have to say that I never skipped over the halftime show because I loved how they did it.

[@mikegeezy8202]

2k5 and GTA 3 were my first two PS2 games. I just tried to play All pro on the X box 1. Not compatible. So I got out my red ring 360 that's been sitting for 10 years and it worked. These games are old but are still miles ahead of Madden.

[@42tribes]

Low key 2k4 was special too.

[@jeromecastro3051]

Facts 💯💯💯

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

The whole thing behind taking things out like that beginning video package/commentary up to the coin toss was to focus on the single players benefit of "getting right to the game". But the thing about doing that is, it becomes less enjoyable for other people to watch. But maybe that's just me, growing up in a house where we had to share the gaming tv.

[@staticmetalxbl]

This game will never get old. Its not perfect as you pointed out with some of the blocking and tackling but the momentum physics and movement always felt pretty good. There are very few complaints about this game. The defense feels like it knows what its doing most of the time and offenses were capable. If it was a good offense...it showed. If it was a bad defense....it showed. I could go on and on about this amazing game. Still the GOAT.

[@ramal5708]

I am here after they revealed Madden 22 and I'm gonna be playing more of this in years to come

[@gamernorcal]

I can play this in a loop 24/7.

[@tonistarks2874]

I still play this game every year with roster updates in my OG Xbox!! I have this year's and it's a brand new game again! Love this game.i stopped playing Madden since the first Nfl2k was released on Sega Dreamcast.i was floored and excited when I saw a commercial on it...the smooth gameplay and realism.Tbis game is so fun to play with and it has a basic controller action functions.u don't need to memorize all the bullshit on Madden on how to do actions on the controller.

[@trizzysjourney3904]

I can remember as a little kid watching my dad and cousin duke it out in this for hours and I would actually be pretty entertain and couldn’t wait till they were done so I can hop on.The game was just different man compared to today’s sports games

[@w_4ca]

If 2k5 had the create a team depth that Madden had back then, it would be borderline perfect

[@Real2ksports]

An amazing game indeed !

[@SIRKskywalker]

I miss this game so much!

[@Real2ksports]

Sirk Skywalker too bad they didn’t make a nfl 2k6 that probably would of had been in PC and have mods?

[@mrmrsplummer3526]

My custom soundtrack over this presentation was amazing. Different songs for every game.

[@Haun-zf9bp]

I Never Understood Why They Removed The Coin Toss, It Wasnt Bothering Anyone Lol

[@Johnprestonevans74]

All these years later ESPN 2K5 remains the football game we deserve. Despite its dated graphical shortcomings and AI hiccups, this game still delivers the most immersive NFL gameday experience. It has completely spoiled my Madden experience. I haven't bought an NFL videogame in over 10 years now because EA just cannot get the broadcast presentation close to what 2K did 15+ years ago. I cannot stand those rough cuts between shots in Madden where the screen freezes while it loads the next cutscene. It takes me right out of the immersion of watching and playing a live game. 2K's halftime/postgame shows are legendary. Looking at them now, they are rough visually, and have a lot of repetition, but it still does a better job than what we've been fed by EA. I really hope something gives. Either EA loses its exclusivity and 2K is allowed back, or EA wakes up and finally delivers a true telecast quality football game.

[@kikinhugs11]

if i can find a copy of that game, this was my favorite game ever, i cant beleive 15 years later im watching a youtube video about it, they stopped making 2ks after 2k5. if i had known i would of kept it in a safer place.

[@lordhave4420]

Man I miss 2k5 football. Anybody else remember when you could check on your online league online?

[@SAGA45]

The fact that NFL2k5 16 friggin years old and STILL a viable comparison to Madden 21 says it ALL!! Hopefully (fingers crossed and prayer hands formed), Visual Concepts is be behind one of the forthcoming 2k football titles.

[@GeddensGC]

The problem is Madden X factors does translate to more realistic gameplay. 10+ years ago APF introduced player abilities and we didn't complain. Madden finally brings back abilities and there's a problem. A major problems.

[@brianwalentynowicz2450]

Id love to see a breakdown of madden 05. I need to know if EA is even capable of making something of this quality. I remember playing the game but I was much too young to appreciate good football.

[@buck_wild_spr1916]

Remember when they brought out the chains to measure the first and the trash talk and celebrating that went on between that 💯 god I miss that

[@prodbylaker]

“Didn’t know your in the good days till you left the good days”