The Patriots Are Pathetic, Detroit Crushes Minnesota + a Round 1 Preview | The Bill Simmons Podcast

[@dtdtdtdtification]

cousin sal dropping the bomb at the end LMAOOOOOOO. leaving bill speechless. amazing

[@therealmvp1024]

I hate to be this guy because I’ve never been but… can I get a time stamp?

[@samyoung9253]

It’s like 1:24:32

[@sylasray6470]

Sal at the end making the joke about Fox Sports is GOLD😂😂😂

[@untexan]

Shoutout to the Falcons for having a 2.5 game lead and the tiebreaker over Tampa with 8 weeks to go and still losing the NFC South by 2 games

[@OconByrd519]

Morris should NOT be a HC in the NFL. His bad coaching cost the Falcons some games.

[@MrJbolding23]

@OconByrd519 maybe in a decade he will be a head coach again, then you can bet obscene amounts of money AGAINST Coach Rah, speaking for a friend. He is a top level coordinator and there is notbing wrong w that. He is just to chummy w yhe players. Or was in Tampa

[@DrakeMaybe]

I love how Sal isn’t sold on Drake Maye

[@christopherwilliams2351]

Why should he be?

[@aaronsp0]

1-9 as the starter

[@Weaponator18]

I like Maye as a pats fan; and unless the Pats really screw him up, he's going to be good. But, at some point, he actually has to start winning these games to inspire the level of confidence Bill has.

[@DrakeMaybe]

@@Weaponator18here’s the thing the way he’s talked about he should elevating those around him since he’s all world. He’s really the second coming Sam Darnold with the Jets imo

[@Samuel_Massad]

I think Sal knows that Maye is going to be a pretty good QB, but he has to needle Bill about it. He's contractually obligated. All the crap that Bill is always giving him about the Cowboys, Sal has to give it back to him.

[@SpaceAvaliable]

Starts at 1:56

[@franzwilde89]

Thanks!

[@consistentlysoftcock2126]

Can’t wait for Drake Maye to become an athletic Mac Jones

[@DrakeMaybe]

And them strike out in free agency, reach on the 4th pick and the next coach keep them last in the division

[@zeb_reynolds]

and then watch Joe Milton’s performance today actually be indicative of his future & then becomes a star after leaving

[@TommyS1872]

Mac Jones looks like he was part of a rogue NASA program where they sent 1960s white QBs to the 2020s just to see how badly they’d get their asses kicked in today’s NFL. Win one for the gipper Mac!

[@David-ps7rt]

The bill Simmons Reddit thread has found yt 😭

[@DrakeMaybe]

@@zeb_reynoldsoh yeah if I’m a QB needing team I call pats offer a 4th round pick

[@tonymalczon2060]

Love the hilarious banter you both bring. Keep it up

[@mattycrowley6175]

As a Pats fan, it makes it even funnier that Cousin Sal is Cowboys fan

[@ds2k15]

1. Hella people would watch Bill stream. 2. Bill wants the opposite from franchise mode that everyone else who plays franchise mode wants.

[@alanfulcher460]

@@ds2k15 he grew up on techno bowl, he’s not into lame shit like “immersion”

[@SaltyChip]

Bills fan here. Never laughed so hard during a loss to the Patriots. Best week 18 loss yet lol.

[@Howdidhenotseeme]

@@SaltyChip pate fan here. You guys tanked better than us, unbelievable smh

[@josephkelley8634]

I forget. How many Super Bowls have the Bills won?

[@tonymalczon2060]

Hilarious indeed

[@SaltyChip]

@@josephkelley8634 lol at bringing out the 1994 jams. You do realize there’s bills fans have the best armor to shit talking. U gotta step it up, ur repeating to “go to” hits of an 9 yr old.

[@LouLou-cm3pp]

@@SaltyChip you hang flags that say WIDE RIGHT

[@johngleason1776]

Why do sports commentators complain about tanking in the NBA and then complain about the lack of tanking in the NFL

[@noah.conley]

As a lions fan I loved Sunday night and I told you all week not to bet Minnesota!!! Alex anzalone our leader of our defense was back our MLB and Lions defense will continue to get healthier! Our defense was top 5 before all the injuries remember that

[@TheMrbc74]

I’m so happy the pats won, Simmons shit on that coach all year. This was karma😂👍

[@DrakeMaybe]

I’m hoping they strike out in free agency too and miss on their pick just for the giggles. They thought trading down from Ladd was a good in the beginning.

[@ohhbliviousgaming]

1:24:32 the goat

[@PatrickMobileHomes]

To your credit, Fortnite is way diff than it was in 2019, you don't play for 5 years and everyone kept playing, that gap is expected. Now they have first person mode too. I lost to my buddies in Madden from 8th grade until Freshman year of college, I finally got to the point where I beat em both by 3 or more touchdowns, we haven't spoken in 14 years.

[@CameronStrandberg]

I can't wait for these guys to be 70

[@ZJ-ne9kn]

Bill's Madden story and his wife being pissed off were hilarious. im in my early 20s, not married, but some of my best buddies are, and we have this conversation a lot.. my sister flips out on her boyfriend for playin too much 😂

[@johnwilson8385]

This is why the NFL has divisional games happen in week 18. Buffalo said, "NE gets the first overall pick and can swap it out for a haul if they lose...well, we will tank better and not let that happen."

[@BryanEverson]

Saints omitted from consideration for the top-6 in the worst franchise rankings? No HC, mirky at best QB situation, cap hell means roster gets worse, can nab a need at No 9 but miss out on the studs even if it's not full of blue chip guys at the top of this draft.

[@JayStaCruz]

Their cap situation is so bad they literally can’t do anything but try to get out of so much dead money this offseason. Saw somewhere that it is statistically possible to get close, but that all depends on who makes those decisions

[@AreolaGrande94]

haha I was waiting all evening for this. After hearing Bill freak out about Maye 'starting' and the pats potentially fucking up the no. 1 pick, I just had to hear the reaction. It did not disappoint. "the pats traded down from 1 to 4... dropped 3 spots in every round... in exchange for... Jack Shit!" "I'll have to check the specs on Jack Shit." 🤣🤣🤣

[@calfowler6838]

Lol I love when you guys do collingsworth

[@blondegirlsezthis8798]

Bill is visibly irritated which is exactly my favorite type of Bill on a podcast. The Patriots are now at true rock bottom now this is zero hour after 20 years of excellence. And Bill Simmons is the one guy i trust who gets that at this moment.

[@GoopaGolfs]

Tha jason Whitlock comment absolutely took me out lolol

[@Riles3152]

What did he say?

[@themostdependablepanda7912]

1:24:33

[@tonymalczon2060]

Haha😂😂😂😂

[@DrakeMaybe]

No one wanted to see the Bengals in the playoffs including the Bengals

[@MateMagyar88]

2:06 Haha Cris Collinsworth! 😂

[@bigbondstyle]

Alright. Jack Shit as an actual tradable asset...that's pretty funny.

[@ExtremeDailyDrivers]

Love these guys. There is nothing better than listening to a delusional Pats fans freak out about being a fan of a bad team. You guys were spoiled for 15 years. You can't be good forever. Welcome to the circle.

[@tomjenkins3353]

Bill being too hard on Mayo. It was his first year with a bad roster. A lot of HOF coaches had a bad first year.

[@JayStaCruz]

@@tomjenkins3353 I think he should’ve spent another year or so as a coordinator. Seems like everyone in the organization liked him, I’m not sure why they thought a guy with relatively little experience can follow in the footsteps of the best coach in the last 2 decades

[@mtuktuk9627]

@@JayStaCruz thats how you do it...the next one doesnt have to fill in those shoes now...its an old hat...happens in real football all the time...big name leaves, but in a no name if it works you got a cheap HC if it doesnt...less pressure for the next maybe bigger name...

[@JayStaCruz]

@ I get that, happened with Wilks in Arizona, David Culley and Lovie Smith in Houston, etc. just didn’t expect a former beloved player to be made the one and done guy

[@DrakeMaybe]

@@JayStaCruzWilks got done wrong by cards panthers and niners. None have prospered since

[@tomjenkins3353]

You cant take Bills comments on Boston teams seriously

[@davewa109]

wow bill and danny kelly both use the term "catbird seat." Maybe that's why DK uses it?

[@dustindavis104]

Was leaving the LAX rental car return area last night and HOLY S**T! There’s a Shakey’s Pizza right there!!! Please go there for the Saturday Shakey’s playoff game…for tradition’s sake! (It looked absolutely awful)

[@beam5655]

"You need a Bailey Zappe"

[@itsyoboyb6314]

Bill and Sal are both right on the Patriots. Bill is right it’s a horrible win. Sal is right that you just can’t tank in football. What else were they supposed to do? They put in basically the third string qb. If Mayo was trying to win the game to sabotage the organization, he woulda played Maye. Or he coulda played the veteran Brissett. And the roster is apparently the worst in the league anyway, so no other good players to sit out. This is sports. The worst team wins a game sometimes. As far the Carson Wentz thing, Bill been hyping Wentz saying he would be good and KC would beat Denver. Now that he knows the result of that game, KC did a great job tanking? You didn’t think that before the game.

[@phil.2345]

Boston media are delusional about Drake Maye

[@DrakeMaybe]

That’s an understatement. He has that Will Levis hype

[@phil.2345]

@ yeah they’re crazy lol

[@Mattthecanuck]

@27:30ish Bill perfectly describes Canadian politics rn.

[@jay_ay_why]

I hit -8.5 Bills exactly also.

[@six0forrest]

I'll be happy if bill doesn't ever see another SB for NE. Dr.simmons I wish all the nba chips tho

[@DonLyfe556]

Great take

[@moderndancingfool]

Trash, classless organization to fire Mayo after giving him absolutely nothing to work with.

[@shyned33]

can tell who doesnt watch and follow the patriots... he was a disaster. its one thing to have a bad team, its another to have ZERO discipline, made bad calls, and contradict yourself in every press conference. just say you hate the patriots, and you are a casual

[@chrisludwig4729]

Have you seen the list of 1 and done coach fires? It's not a long list and there's not many names there that make you think the organisation was to hasty. The Krafts did Mayo a disservice by grooming him to be HC instead of letting him get his reps as a coordinator and earning the opportunity. He was clearly way, way over his head.

[@JJ_5289]

​@@chrisludwig4729he was in over his head but at the same time they hired him knowing he had no experience and a lousy roster. They were in a lot of these games and werent any worse than they were during belichecks final season. For the krafts to expect him to come in and turn the whole franchise around in a year was unrealistic and unfair to him. They just gave belicheck multiple bad seasons before they fired him

[@Bobbleheads56]

@@shyned33reminds me of last season under the “greatest coach of all time” lol. Time for pats fans to just accept they are gonna be irrelevant for another few decades now that they lost their one great player.

[@nickporter6604]

belichick had 20 years of winning so clearly his leash would he way longer 😂😂 mayo was horrible in conferences, threw players and coaches under the bus. yeah he got screwed with that roster but guess what…he knew the roster was shit before the year and he dug his grave. plus it vrabel wants the job, you give vrabel the job

[@MKAComedy]

Saying Baker is 3rd in MVP over Saquon and Sam Darnold is kind of crazy IMO.

[@billyshakespeare17]

NBA problems are NOT a result of pundits criticizing the product. Keep playing ostrich.

[@tomjenkins3353]

I don’t think it’s a bad draft. I think it’s a bad offensive draft, but they’re a ton defensive talent this year something last year draft was missing. 49:20

[@ajenewhite9866]

Bottom 5 list 1. Tenn 2. Oakland 3. New Orleans 4. Cleveland 5. Patriots You cant go on for forever about how the whole organization messed up today and not put them in bottom 5

[@lokey139]

Bill saying talking about Vikings could of won but lions dropped 3 interceptions. Two would have been covering Jefferson!

[@chrisludwig4729]

Apoplectic Simmons is easily most entertaining Simmons. You cannot change my mind.

[@cleigh113]

Lovey Smith did Houston a favor by winning that game and changing the draft order, they got the second round pick and CJ Stroud out of it. Who's to say maybe something similar will happen with the Patriots.

[@nostradumass6248]

sal can’t do the mad dog impersonation anymore :(

[@iangrimm]

Bill went from Patriots HAVE to get the first pick to this is a horrible draft for a top pick/trade for the Browns QUICK.😂

[@Cactusjones88]

I don’t know if people realize but the Patriots have been bad for 4 years now. I just want everyone to know that Mayo did something this year that Bill couldn’t do last year and that’s Impact the playoffs. The Bengals are eliminated

[@OconByrd519]

Bears will def. end up hiring the wrong HC and Caleb will end up with another team.

[@pdaimperial]

Sal is right, tanking in football doesnt exist and theres a difference between a team like the bills who are a 2 seed letting punters go for incentives and resting everyone vs. Trying to convince players and coaches to tank for some draft picks for a dysfunctional franchise they probably wont even play for in 2 yrs

[@rgs97]

Jerry jones should get an Emmy for that cameo

[@TommyS1872]

33:03 Pats trade for QB Jack Shit will go down as one of the greatest of all time!

[@jarretthoogerhyde1633]

No one is beating the Lions. Accept it. In all honesty, the rest of the league should be thanking their lucky stars that Hutch is hurt. Also, we can play the what if game for the Lions tonight as well. What if Goff doesn't throw two picks? What if they convert the 4th and short to a wide open Jamo? What if?

[@andrewdrennan9436]

They can beat themselves. Tampa and Buffalo beat them. Playoff Reid can beat them, but lately the Lions have been undefeated against KC. They're favorites though.

[@ericareese4361]

😂😂😂

[@KK-pm7ud]

The Chiefs are better

[@JT-mj5ud]

The Chiefs are Three peating

[@heath1948]

​@@JT-mj5udThe league will do everything in their power to make that happen. It's not what the fans want but the Chiefs are the new Patriots for some reason the league thinks that people want the Chiefs to win over and over again

[@cboyz20]

Washington benched Jayden Daniels in order to beat Trey Lance

[@michaelstover6778]

Remember bill loved theSteelers he’s such a dope

[@Egavans]

Stafford has looked like a corpse the last month, there's no level of matchup jockeying the Rams needed more than they needed a week of rest.

[@smittypa6597]

Maybe they should stop having division games in week 18.

[@Fantasyfraudexposer]

i dont understand what people dont get about the NFL and tanking. Bill is way too smart for this. These guys are gonna play hard. Its is what it is He says can we just hand the ball off ok you do that and players get hurt because the defense knows thats all your doin. and the rb gets lit up and hopspitalized lol Just not able to do this in the NFL. its too violent of a sport.

[@Fantasyfraudexposer]

so they only way would be to kneel play after play and the NFL would find a way to stop this instantly. Because it is not the NBA and is actuallt a great league lol. Also , even kneeling over and over now your defense has to play all game lol. i guess theu could just not move and let the other team score at will hahaha Just not possible in the NFL.

[@daudder]

So, maybe Robert Kraft is not such a brilliant owner...and got lucky both with Belichick and Brady...

[@BigginsInAmerica]

They still don't understand that Dan Campbell started everyone against the 49ers because all the starters on defense were hurt, the backups filling in need reps to prepare for the playoffs. Turns out the practice against the 49ers helped the defense against the Vikings.

[@heath1948]

@@BigginsInAmerica I actually understand why they did it would it this way they lose and and then say they still win the Minnesota game. I honestly think the NFL would try to elevate Philadelphia to number one so yes we needed to make sure we were at 14 and 2 walking into the Minnesota game so that if we won we would be number one in both the NFC and the NFC North and there was to be no argument about that

[@KK-pm7ud]

The Chiefs made it clear that they didn't want to see the Bengals in the playoffs.

[@JT-mj5ud]

@@KK-pm7ud BS... The Chiefs don't care about the Bungholes.. they literally rested 16 starters

[@bfoz]

Playing scared. That's a bad sign.

[@DrakeMaybe]

What incentive did Chiefs have to play their starters? Another bye on top of the one they have?

[@KK-pm7ud]

@@JT-mj5ud They lost to the Broncos and didn't even score a point. It was a message to the Bengals.

[@tiagofigueira5361]

Chiefs just rested their starters as they should! This is on the Bengals, just don't lose to the patriots and start slow every single year !

[@uppercaseLOGO]

The pressure got to Sam Darnold this was the biggest game he’s ever played in and after he got sacked earlier he kept over throwing his receivers

[@Watchingvideoslikeu]

Vrabel is Jeff Fisher 2.0

[@DrakeMaybe]

Too much is made for the afc title game in 2019 where they got shellacked

[@Watchingvideoslikeu]

@ way too much!

[@DrakeMaybe]

No one wanted Vrabel except Bostonians

[@dominatedrebin]

Minnesota might be good but they’re not going to win 3 consecutive games on the road…

[@kicka11]

Miami missing out, with that stacked roster, is hilarious. Their head coach is an utter fraud.

[@Hatz127]

Yeah they had an adult in the room with Fangio and let him go and the team is soft af

[@Dr.Megladon]

Can't wait to see my Broncos win another Super Bowl this year.

[@tonymalczon2060]

Let me know where you do stand up next. You're hilarious 😅😂😂😅😂😅

[@jay_ay_why]

I let the computer handle the scouting on CFB25

[@andreaskleim-c1m]

Wait, Sal won GTL 4:3 when there are only six games?

[@andreaskleim-c1m]

Oh, I got it. They tied the first game and gave both a full point.

[@six0forrest]

Darnold was bad, period. If that was hurts or Jackson I bet my last dollar bill blamed them. It's not a race thing btw

[@erickennedy8534]

Hope you happy Bill getting Mayo fired, Good luck with Virable

[@andrewchaikin4478]

The BS Fortnite stream would be elite

[@bryanreed3559]

Lions offense looks much better without Montgomery, giving Gibbs time to get a feel for the game has been great.

[@SamDaWarriorsFan]

Feel like I need to start a Road to Glory for Jack Shit now.

[@jonloffie]

The over unders I placed at my local casino had juices of -130 to -140 and one as high as -150. It sucked.

[@ji-inroh495]

Everyone should play video games for 10 min a day---slows cognitive decline.

[@Noperk911]

New England Panthers lmao

[@ImRanchWilder]

I took your fanduel special bet preseason, Detroit to have best record and Patriots to have the worst. Would that have hit today with pats loss?

[@sebastianpedone7209]

Un dia voy a dejarme de reir cuando imitan a Cris Collinsworth, ese dia sera NUNCA

[@michaelstover6778]

Saints aren’t rock bottom?? wtf

[@holla18atme]

Bill Simmons is salty af about his bet.

[@michaelstover6778]

Rams play lions better

[@hsjhj92]

L ads.

[@lokey139]

Pickens is overrated.

[@KevinJL]

Skiiiiip

[@arkangelarkangel1302]

Let's see if TANKIING DOESN'T EXIST IN THE NFL WHEN ARCH MANNING COMES IN. 😅

[@shawnbrooks5293]

The Arch Manning that can't get on the field at Texas?

[@kevinahn8640]

I listen every week but mannn I couldn’t wait to hear BS’ response to the pats win

[@SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk]

Bill crying for more than 10min straight about a team winning. Good Lord!

[@lokey139]

You guys are ignorant if you don’t think espn and FS1 isn’t gonna drop race card if sanders and ward don’t both go top 5

[@michaelgreene4816]

First?

[@michaellonergan2648]

Bill with his Star Wars coffee mug 😜