NFL with an A7R IV & 600mm f4

[@froknowsphoto]

good points on the zooming in 1:1. People zooming in on these files don't realize 1:1 is SUPER FAR in and yes, you will see some noise.

[@NickPage]

Thanks man... its crazy how many people freak out about the noise, not realizing that you looking way deeper into a photo than you would ever look unless your 2 inches from a large print

[@fototripper]

Woah dude, The Fro is a fan. You've finally arrived ;)

[@NickPage]

@fototripper must be my "gravely T-rex Jack Daniels voice" .... jerk :)

[@fototripper]

@@NickPage Clarence Von Pong seemed to think it was sexy though!

[@damage98]

I've said this before elsewhere, so at the risk of repeating myself, the mk4 has focus so good it feels like cheating. I come from the Lumix G9 and all I can say is there is no competition at all, Sony tracking is insanely good out off the box. I've been shooting soccer and instead of culling for the inevitable out of focus images I would get with attempts at tracking with the Panasonic system ( I usually give up and use zone focus to get keepers) all the shots are in focus. This with the mc11 and an old non IS Canon 70-200L f4. Thinking about the 100-400 GM, but the soccer season is over and with aps-c mode, and for youth soccer, the lens I have is pretty awesome and sharp. I've also been shooting with the Batis 85 at full frame and I'm blown away at the images. This is a camera and lens combination that I can use to save my photos for posterity and personal enjoyment. As a hobbyist, I'm not willing to settle anymore and the mark4 w Zeiss glass means I don't have to. I have a question for you later sir, but have to run now will be back soon.

[@jamesparker9312]

Nick - I'm not a sports shooter but I really appreciate how you show the missed shots and what's going on instead of just your winners. Too often people assume the pros never miss or that they simply need to get better gear to get better photos like the pros. Truth is, gear only helps so much and even with experience, you still miss some shots. There is no silver bullet. I'm headed to Out of Oregon - see you there!

[@NickPage]

Thanks man! It’s very true. I leave every day I’m not entirely sure that I got much in the way of good photos. It’s only after Culling that you find those gems. I miss a whole lot of shots especially since I don’t shoot sports full-time

[@groovesmedia989]

Sees pro photographer posting review video of a 600mm f4 paired with a7rIV. Immediately subs. Instant fan.

[@fullframe_outdoors]

Glad you and Jared commented on the 1:1 zoom in… I’ve been feeling super discouraged about my recent sporting/action shots, especially soccer images because they look great, and then I zoom in and they’re not as tack sharp and clear of noise. But I guess you’re right and nobody ever will pixel peep like that, I don’t even sell those prints haha. Made me feel like I was doing it right so thank you.

[@benweatherheadphotography1594]

Love when you get to shoot the NFL, it so nice to see a photographer's point of view. Love your work!

[@thomaslopez2427]

Great points! Some people get caught up too much on "megapixels" and don't realize even with 24mp you can still crop in quite a bit.

[@brandennall]

Great video! It's great to see someone put out a vid on this! I cover sports about 5 days a week and my work-horse is the A7RIII over the A9 because I can pick the action frame out of the full frame when not cropped tight. Keep killin' it! Nice work!

[@1fareast14]

5:35 "the shot works" no kidding, favorite of the bunch. Love it when people just arrange themselves like they're in a painting, very courteous of them :)

[@robwasnj]

Can't thank you enough for making this video. You went over exactly the things I wanted to know about these cameras compared to one another. I think Sony realizes as photographers we respect honest reviews even if they point out weaknesses so we know what gear will work for us. Definitely a move in the right direction for us all.

[@Natepushweights]

If you don't mind me asking. How did you go about getting in contact to shoot at the stadium on the sidelines ? I'm very curious ...

[@ejpeiker]

An easy way to determine where the AF point was at the time of exposure is to look at the image on the camera and hit the magnify button (with default settings it's the AF On button when playing back a shot). The camera by default magnifies centered on the location of the active AF point for that shot.

[@NickPage]

Yeah that is very handy well reviewing images on the camera, more difficult when reviewing images in Lightroom

[@6gwilliams]

Thanks Nick, enjoying both my A7RIV and A9 for wildlife and action. Don't have the 600mm f4, but enjoy my 200-600mm f5.6-6.3 . Cheers

[@TomasMachadoIglesias]

Does RIV works fine with 200-600? I have already that lens and love it, but Im in doubt of 61mp and high iso performance with slow apertures of that white beast. Ill use it mostly for surfing and triathlon so I always shoot 1/1000-1/2500 SS.

[@TomasMachadoIglesias]

If you have to choose only 1 of them, wich one?

[@terrywbreedlove]

I was shooting the Seahawk game with my iPhone from the sidelines.......... otherwise known as my living room.

[@bnazzaro21]

You live in the stadium? Wild.

[@Photomeike]

😂😂😂

[@normanschultz1142]

You spelled Sea Chicken wrong 😁

[@anthonyk27]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BrianIrwin]

Heya Nick, really cool images. Also really appreciate you showing when/why the 600mm was too tight and the AF misses from face detection. I would be over the moon if I got any of these images, but your warts and all display helps set realistic expectations for those of us starting out in sports.

[@stuartschaffner9744]

Well, that was fun to watch. For birding, I’ll stick with the A9. I have one possibly useful suggestion. The bird photographer Mark Smith has a configuration video for the A9 that I mostly follow. He suggests using two buttons for back-button focus. One activates an expandable zone system and the other a spot focus. Both will track a subject once it acquires it. The zone is the normal one for a bird that blasts into clear sky. The spot works when a bird is sitting deep in foliage, but you suspect it will soon take off. The zone will acquire the foliage, so you can use the time the bird is sitting to line up the spot focus. In either case, once you acquire the target the A9 will stick with it like grim death as long as you keep the focus button mashed down. I suspect that the spot focus might have helped you on those crowded shots that you missed.

[@hungryhungrykev]

Wonderful share, Nick. Appreciate you showing the thought process during the game and showing what you were capturing before post. Really hoping to take these concepts to the non profit events I do pro bono work for. Obviously won’t be using a 600, but the knowledge helps to think about acceptable iso as I crank up the shutter to capture moments

[@blakeparry1983]

i shoot australian rules football with a high res body and what people sometimes dont realise is that with all the megapixels, you can sacrifice some of the sharpness for noise reduction, plus downsizing also downsizes the noise. RE the 600mm, i tend to shoot a 400mm f2.8 and crop in - means more chance of getting the shot. By the time you crop down to the 600mm f4 "equivalent" you dont lose anything

[@NickPage]

Totally agree Blake!

[@CreeseWorks]

This helped so much, I'm looking at a second Sony body for the action-oriented work I shoot. This video with shots from an NFL game was a perfect example of the pros/cons of each.

[@victorzuniga5187]

Awesome work. Its was hard for me to deal with noise because often times we as photographers are zooming in 1:1 to inspect. Reality is, no one in real life is going to zoom into your photo 1:1.. only other photographers pixel peeping who really don't matter because they gonna hate anyway. If the shot looks good full screen, it will look amazing scaled down for social media/internet. People also have to know that shooting sports is always a high ISO situation unless its a day time no dome stadium. Night Varsity High School Football is the toughest sport to shoot because those fields likely have 4 light fixtures (two on each side of the field) so you will often shoot at 12,800 or 25,600 iso. The older the school the worse it is, but even newer schools don't light their fields well.

[@mandomorlosdotcom]

Great REview...Thank you for taking the time to make this.

[@momchilyordanov8190]

I saw this in other reviews of 7R mk.4 as well. It has more noise than mk.3 and the 24MP sensor in current Sony cameras. Apparently it's more of a studio/architecture/landscape type of camera, where one can keep the iso in tripple digits easily. That is what people typically see as intended purposes for pretty much all high-MP models tbh. Having said that, if not pixel peeping, these are great looking shots. Any website or print edition would happily use them. I believe the guys who makes graphics and need higher res will not frown on these either.

[@NickPage]

agreed, people who say "too much noise" forget just how many megapixels they are peeping in on sometimes. compare this to a canon 5dSR and people will be impressed with the noise levels I think.

[@JustSamOfficial]

Nice photos..I'm jealous I need an a7r4 now..! Great content Nick.

[@AlexandreRacine]

When in crop mode, right-clic and use the option "reset crop" if you want it eazy.

[@malenky4057]

Would be better to use the shorter focal length on a higher sensor that you can crop if needed, since you're not going to be cropping a 600mm.

[@NickPage]

Agreed

[@badmintonmedia-ny7zq]

Pretty crappy noise :-( kind of neglects the whole point of higher res if NR needs to be done hard in post. Have you tried other raw converters? I was thinking this could be implemented raw-processing in Lightroom or whatever you use? Have you tried capture one etc??

[@theeclecticphotographerajr5372]

Not a pro but been shooting for a long time mainly travel, family and art stuff. For football based on seeing the guys on the side line I would go with three kits. 400, 70-200, then 24-70.

[@NickPage]

yep.. although i would probably trade the 24-70 for a 16-35.. but yeah that three body setup is ideal.. if a bit cumbersome

[@rickporier]

So question. I have two slower telephoto Sony lenses. The 4/24-105 and the 4/70-300 and I plan to pick up the 200-600 soon as well. I would have more flexibility with those lens with the a9ii because of the higher ISO capabilities and (from what I have heard) better low light performance. Am I on the right track with this train of thought? I have seriously been on the fence about wether to get the a9ii or the a7iv. I can't decide. This video helped a lot though, thank you! The a9 images looked better to me but I don't shoot much sports. Mostly Real Estate and Portrait. Thoughts?

[@AndrewConway]

I haven't bought the camera yet, but this was the last video I needed to make the leap... TY

[@NickPage]

Its a great camera for sure

[@StephenKazumi]

7:33 -i actually the uncropped wider image. I feel like it paints the story better Great video!

[@joesb1]

How do you hold monopod with 600mm lens when you reach for smaller camera and lens on your hip?

[@NickPage]

It’s not easy! I hold the mono pod with my left hand and then shoot with the 70 to 200 with my right, not ideal... If I had more time I lay down the big lens so I can shoot with both hands with my second camera body

[@AllCarsUnited]

Considered selling my a7r3 for the a7r4 but just can't justify it. I was hoping for better video features making it the perfect camera for photography and videography. Will be waiting for the a7s3 to use along the a7r3. With that said, the images look tremendous but it Def seems like the a9 is the camera to use in sports

[@darksideemt]

When I saw the pics on IG I was WOW! Pics came out great!

[@stuartschaffner9744]

Thanks, Nick! Even though I shoot wildlife, our problems are similar in many ways. I hope viewers understand how skilled Nick is! He makes it all seem too easy. Do the Sony cameras store the focus point info in the raw file like Nikon?

[@NickPage]

thanks for the kind words! not really.. you can set the preview to zoom in on where the focus point was during playback.. but I havn't been able to find a software to show where the focus point actually was

[@BigAntTVMedia]

Can u please do a metabones 5 and mc-11 through test on the r4 for regular portraits and sports like the Nfl or hs football too see how the lenses and af work using 24-70 canon and 70-200 and a 300mm at least

[@NickPage]

I still own my sigma 120 to 300 F 2.8 for Canon and a sick my MC 11. I can do a video showing how that performs

[@locopixel463]

I wonder if you could turn Eye AF off and then program the button on the lens to turn it on while pressed? that would give you instant access to both modes.

[@NickPage]

pretty sure you could toggle it off and on with a button.. if not a button, certainly in the FN menu

[@locopixel463]

@@NickPage to be useful in shooting fast moving action you would have to have it on a button you could press easily and without removing your eye from the viewfinder otherwise the action would bypass you when you're trying fiddle with a menu item.

[@MichaelKantormusic]

I have the a9ii and the a7r4. I like the a9 for sports but use the a7r4 the 80-200

[@waawaaweewaa2045]

is 1/1000th of a second about as slow as you can go to capture sports movement cleanly with the 600mm? Did you have auto iso on? Thx. Do you think the 400mm f2.8 might have been better in this situation, with the a7riv still allowing you to crop while maybe mitigating some noise with the wider aperture?

[@GaryJahman]

I liked the eloborated explanations!

[@DMaynardINC]

I have a have a7iii and I’m looking to get a backup body(upgrade). What would be your recommendation as a second body for someone looking to shoot more sports?

[@mad3st]

If you do not need such high resolution then on lower megapixel camera you could use lower shutter speed also.

[@Swindie]

Wow! Shooting an NFL game would be amazing!

[@jarosawk.9166]

Do you use electronic shutter for sports?

[@MarktrustingJesus]

For Birds in Flight, which is also pretty fast moving, is the a7r4 af near as good as a9? I have a a7r3 and the only reason I would upgrade would be for the AF. I need to crop, and 24 megs isnt enough to start with. thanks great shots by the way

[@sarimner]

aren't C1 way better for noise when it comes to sony files?🤔🙄🤨

[@NickPage]

from what I have heard... but i am a Photoshop guy.. so its adobe for me

[@sarimner]

@@NickPage im a Photoshop to. nothing can replace photoshop! but i hade to get C1 for my Fujifilm files.. i have nver uset a sony but i have hard that files is better in C1 just like fujifilm is.. but aslong that you are happy that is what counts.. ;)

[@sarimner]

Or you can be like this guy! he hates all raw Converters! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYOzhXqCrsx1is0 🙄🤔😆

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Love the shot at 1:19.

[@yanceysamuels3945]

Hey Nick great video. I am a photographer who happens to be born and raised in New Orleans. I am very interested in shooting sports photography, in fact it's one of the reasons I got into photography. I was wondering how does one go about getting access to shooting at a Saints game? I've reached out to several folks here but no one seems to have an answer. Can you please help me out?

[@ronboe6325]

You have similar problem to what I face with dog agility. Some of the border collies are stupid fast and 1/1250 can be too slow. If I don't choose wisely and try to catch the dog coming out of the tunnel and I can't see the tunnel, my reaction times are such that all I catch is the tail. :) On the other hand the game format gives me much better lens options. :)

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

Was that a Magpul strap with QD connector on your 70-200? If so is that the one with the QDM or simple QD connector?

[@nagual2335]

Great video. A9 images looked more solid to me :)

[@lassepetersen684]

What i really wanna know is, how does the autofocus stack up against what you find on the D850?

[@steveokay1]

I saw you, you tripped over something and almost fell. I laughed and said, "Hay, that looked like Nick Page" haha!

[@NickPage]

really? where was I on the field?

[@steveokay1]

@@NickPage I watched it on tv, I think near the 25 yard line, late in the 3rd or early 4th

[@designsbydm1519]

I've been curious about apsc mode on the a7r4 for sports to give the 70-200 some extra reach. Did you try that at all? I shoot sports with a7iii but been debating on A9 or A7r4.....obviously A9 wins because of frame rate but that extra reach on a7r4 .......

[@NickPage]

the extra cropability of the a7r iv is really really nice. i didn't really shoot much in apsc mode, since i didn't need it, and I would rather crop in post anyways, but the A9 is always going to do better at those high iso's. for sports, the A9 wins every time

[@unadvised5337]

Is it easy to switch between auto focus and eye detection AF? Can you switch mid play?

[@zoubtube]

awesome job with this video. thanks for the effort

[@orbitaljellyfish808]

Great vid 👏👏 Did the R4 have the firmware updated for these shots?

[@sonymirrorless]

Nick, this is great...late to the comments, but rock on bro.

[@straitjacketstudios]

Great vid!! How do you go about getting a press pass to shoot an NFL game and how do you get approval to use the photos?

[@TroyeStonich]

Thanks for giving us so much explanation! How many shots do you take during an NFL game? Do you try to shoot every down? Also, what do you do with the pics? Do you sell them to the media, like newspaper or magazine print?

[@NickPage]

I track every play but only hit the shutter when it looks like a decent shot, on this game I took about 2000 photos which is actually less than I’ve shot in the past

[@NickPage]

Because the NFL owns the rights in this case, I don’t do anything with the photos other than use them for portfolio material

[@AndrewJohnson51]

Very informative, thank you.

[@pattymattes7124]

So, you didn't want to try out that new AR4 on tonight's Seattle vs Rams game to see if it would render that neon green accurately? LOL

[@norbertmuehlberger4791]

No doubt the „600 Baby“ is awesome. Why no 200-600?🤔

[@NickPage]

Doesn’t let in enough light

[@shootermcgavin4999]

@@NickPage During the daytime it does. But why would you use a 200-600 when you have a 600 GM. :)

[@christmannaj]

Did you utilize "crop mode" on the RIV at all? Wondering how the noise would be in those shots.

[@NickPage]

No I didn’t, because I had so much focal length I didn’t really need to, I would rather crop and post in most situations

[@supertaufiqr]

Question. Which autofocus mode were you using?

[@findbradford]

what about the shutter lag is it like a9 or a7riii which has shutter lag

[@NickPage]

I really didn't notice much Lag, some people talk about it alot, but its not something I have ever really noticed honestly

[@findbradford]

i do a lot of pets and animals commercially and for portraits and they make sports players look slow I know i need a9 or a9ii but 24 megapixels give me little room to crop and i have to shoot wide, that is why i want to know more about a7riv requested loaner from pro services after your comment thanks for the info just wanted to give some context and i was hoping for 36 megapixels in a9 or I probably would've already purchased a7riv..

[@Valleedbrume]

Nice work,like the Sony.

[@MarceloSilvaChannel]

How did the battery perform?

[@NickPage]

I went through about 1 battery in the 5div and 1.25 batteries in the A9 during the game.. not too bad

[@kineticuncertainty]

How did you crop in like that in lightroom. ? I crop in lightroom but it doesnt make the image bigger

[@BillFerris]

If the display is set to "Fit" the cropped image will be sized to fit within the frame of the window. The full, uncropped image may be displayed 1:8 to fit within the frame while the cropped image may display 1:4 or 1:2 to fit. So, Lightroom isn't making the crop larger. It's just displaying the image away the size ratio needed to fit within the panel.

[@zolte]

incredible shots....ty...

[@lanzarotepersonaltraining1563]

Looks amazing but could you do a test between this and the Canon 1dx mk2 and Nikon D5 to see the difference. Thanks

[@shootermcgavin4999]

You think he's made of money :)

[@metrixc]

Hey Nick, great video with interesting intel. I was wondering how you focused on the players. Do you lock focus or do you use continuous focus? Thanks best regards.

[@donnellboone7442]

Great video Nick!! I really like the Sony a7r 4 because of it's versatility.You probably can do any type of photography with it,except for lowlight shooting.Do you know if Sony is going to make a battery grip for the a7r4?

[@NickPage]

yeah, I believe they already have.. I know I have seen people at press events using them

[@GusScottExley]

Oh man how did you get on the sideline! awesome awesome pics and amazing video. LOOVVEEEEE

[@antonoat]

Interesting to hear your thoughts here Nick. Curious if you could only have two cameras which would you choose? Great shots of the game by the way!

[@NickPage]

If I was shooting sports I would go with a pair of a9’s every time... but for landscape photography and general shooting a7r iv

[@FirstLast-il6ok]

does the a7r4 also suffer with the 3fps AFC limitation on adapted glass?

[@NickPage]

I do not know, I’ve never used adapted glass on it

[@BigAntTVMedia]

Nick Page please do a metabones and mc-11 video omg the r4 ASAP on sports and fashion portraits asap

[@bigbrownmab189]

For basketball games would 70-200 be perfect for catching crisp close action on the other end of the court which is just under 100 feet, is 24-70?

[@NickPage]

when I was shooting more basketball, I really l liked having a 70-200 for the other side of the court, then a fast 50mm or 85mm prime f1.4 or so, to let in more light.. I liked the separation I could get from the background, and in basketball, you need all the light you can get!

[@Raheemjones23]

What do I have to do to be able to shoot NFL games

[@NickPage]

its all about building a solid portfolio with highschool then college football.. then networking. It really comes down to finding a way to get your foot in the door

[@KenCheng]

are you seeing more Sony shooters on the sidelines?

[@NickPage]

for sure.. last year I saw one other.. this year I saw 4 or 5.. including the head photographer for the saints.

[@cryhavoc38]

During the Hawks/Rams game, during the post game hand shaking, there is a video grab of Goff and Wilson greeting. 8 stills cameras in frame, all but 1 were 1DX MK II's, the other was a 5d MKIV. Sony has a ways to go

[@NickPage]

@@cryhavoc38 agreed, part of that is, the media outlets already have those spendy pieces of glass, and it really really hurts to ditch that much gear to buy into a new system... it will take a while, but I suspect it will happen

[@toddroy9558]

Do you sell any of these pictures?

[@NickPage]

nope I cant.. the NFL holds all rights to the images, I can only use them for my portfolio

[@venom5809]

Cool video, curious how many shots are taken in a pro sports game on average, must be an insane amount?

[@zolte]

Are 9 out of 10 cameras at these games still canikon?

[@NickPage]

I would say its more like 50% canon.. 30% nikon.. 20% sony now... but they are all eyeing the sony gear with interest

[@DamonBowe]

How are you connected to the Saints?

[@NickPage]

I wish I was but I am not

[@sidvicious3129]

I have no problem with the pics at all good work, noise can’t be avoided. My question is how did you get the permission to shoot the NFL from the sidelines and be able to post pics on KZbin? Thanks man, I love the content, I know the fro does this as well.

[@CR-ou4hl]

Looks like you're holding a Carl Gustaf. Damn, son.

[@lcador9]

Another serious problem with the 600mm lens is that it produces a very narrow DOF and thus makes it impossible to produce hero images where all elements of the group are in focus. This can be seen in many of your photos where a 2.8 lens shot at 5.6 would have allowed a greater DOF. Your video was excellent and again demonstrates why the A9 and 400mm, 2.8 is the combination of choice for football.

[@davidellinsworth22]

Just curious.. why do you not use an A9 for landscapes? If it's that good at high ISO and is also ISO-invariant surely this would save you a lot of trouble (with bracketing and exposure merging) and you could for the most part edit a single exposure?

[@NickPage]

Because it does not have as much dynamic range, or resolution. The A7r series Dominates for landscape photography

[@Mtj622]

That’s why they should’ve made the a9ii 30-36 megapixels

[@NickPage]

I suspect, people would have just complained about the noise being slightly more than the A9.. kinda like they are about the A7R iv. I am glad I am not a camera company ... so hard to make people happy!

[@Mtj622]

Nick Page yeah hopefully they’ll make an a9r or something like that. That has a higher res viewfinder and the 30ish MP sensor. I’d buy that in a heart beat

[@njrtech]

If Mark Smith can shoot fast birds in flight with A7RIV you can shoot football with it all day. Marks a pro and stated A7RIV auto focus is easily 90 percent of A9

[@NickPage]

Agreed

[@njrtech]

@@NickPage for me I wanted one body that could do landscape, nature and wildlife (birding is demanding on auto focus). The A7RIV fits perfectly. As much as I loved my R3, it's autofocus wasn't great when shooting small erratic subjects like birds...the R4 doesn't have that problem. The ergonomic changes and just a bonus for me. Thanks and great show as usual

[@WhosPhotoTube]

American Football doesn't suffer from the bright day glow jackets worn by safety stewards, which are a nightmare for sports photographers over here (UK) at proper football matches :-)

[@chrstphrdyer]

I heard networks weren’t taking footage from Sony after the baseball fiasco

[@eugeniawoo1623]

which fiasco?

[@shootermcgavin4999]

?

[@MikeSenger]

Nick, your video was rather choppy??

[@NickPage]

You mean my cellphone footage from the game?

[@MikeSenger]

@@NickPage yep, that explains it. :)

[@klackon1]

Good video. I always feel sorry for the photographers who get trampled by the players. I almost want to go back and look at the highlights to see if I can spot you: and I would if you had been covering the Browns vs Ravens game.

[@AngelGarcia-dj4kw]

I would love to shoot at a cowboys game. Any tips??

[@NickPage]

the biggest thing is.. work your way up, and network... start off shooting highschool football.. then get your foot in at the college level.. build that portfolio.. then network as much as you can to leverage that portfolio.

[@shootermcgavin4999]

Not much money in it. The players get paid millions and most of the photographers are working for a sports wire and hardly make any money....it probably doesn't even cover the cost of the gear for a lot of the guys on the sideline. It's the same with college sports.

[@pattymattes7124]

Nice review. BTW, did you get to hear Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to be Cowboys?

[@rafaelmoneo9235]

Lmao, insane. Sony crush it, the only negative point... The buffer speed and size. Overall best camera right now, by far.

[@mariobrunettin8338]

Really bad noise on the A7R4

[@NickPage]

only when your in at 1 to 1.. dont forget how far your zooming in when looking at 1 to 1

[@carterjohnson25]

Jared Polin says only amateurs crop.....

[@NickPage]

😜

[@carterjohnson25]

@@NickPage Haha. I say only a person who does not like money would miss out on the best image because they are above coping it.

[@dimitristsagdis7340]

Nice photos, no complains about your craft, etc. but somehow I expected better (noise wise) both from the a9 and the a7RIV. It is no accident those that do this for a living opt for the 400 f/2.8 halving the requisite ISO.

[@NickPage]

I think the A9 performs as good as any camera out there.. with the exception of the A7S ii. its always a balance between megapxl and noise performance, which is why you see a drop off in the a7R iv

[@dimitristsagdis7340]

@@NickPage people can see and draw their own conclusions: www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-a9/sony-a9-image-quality.htm

[@Paul_85-]

Omg those high Iso's are destroying your photos, the noise is terrible , you need to use at least 20 on the noise reduction.

[@NickPage]

This is the reality of shooting sports. You have to do what you have to do but that’s also why fast apertures are at a premium

[@Paul_85-]

@@NickPage you could of used the sigma 150 - 600 and got far less noise .

[@NickPage]

Paul Scott actually if there would be far more noise! I would be giving up a stop of light because of the smaller maximum Aperture and thus shooting at even higher ISOs

[@Paul_85-]

@@NickPage yes giving up a stop of light but you can easily recover in post , in my opinion.

[@NickPage]

@@Paul_85- I would love to see you do a video and prove your theory!

[@frankricks6854]

WHO DAT?!?

[@harmer1944]

I am sure that Sony users appreciate it, but I just skip any brand-specific video. I hope you come back to more generalised episodes

[@NickPage]

I will dont worry, just wanted to share my experience for those using/interested in the sony system

[@jasonlax4112]

Way to discredit his work. Plenty to learn about him, his channel, photography techniques, general entertainment... Etc regardless of what brand happens to be referenced.