'GMFB' reacts to Kyle Shanahan's reason for receiving overtime kickoff in Super Bowl LVIII loss

[@nathancaraballo7600]

Chiefs said they would go for 2 if 9ers scored a td on the first possession

[@Ninerfaithful_87]

What I didn’t understand is why Kyle never called a timeout on the last play?????? Look at formation and call timeout

[@vipahman]

Kyle Shanahan is 0-3 in the Super Bowl stopped by Belichick/Brady in OT and Reid/Mahomes twice (once in OT). Shanahan lacks situation awareness.

[@paulellis84]

You know what isn't talked about... the fact that even under the old rules the Chiefs still would have won!

[@johnbox271]

Time for another rules change?

[@bailoch]

The funny thing about Shanny’s plan to get a TD first is Andy Reid said the chiefs would’ve gone for 2 to end the game, thus wiping out any third possession sudden death scenario. Chiefs would’ve gotten it too. It would’ve been hilarious.

[@kyledavis635]

That applies only in the case where Niners scored a TD first... If Niners didn't score, or scored a FG, what you describe is irrelevant.... And if both scored FGs or both didn't score at all, Niners would get the third possession, which would now be sudden death, i.e. first to score wins - a significant advantage. Anyone who thinks the Niners did the wrong thing by taking the ball first simply hasn't thought it through, and is likely using knee-jerk logic....

[@dog-gz2qg]

One last thought how many people work for the 49ers and have headsets and not one of them knew the rules😮😊

[@instantimpact2064]

You sound dumb asl. They all lnew the rules goofy

[@johnlinks]

they're using that as an excuse. they knew the rules. it didnt matter. you have to score a td either way. 49ers didnt do that and lost

[@KoreyKruse]

@@johnlinks Getting a TD is easier when you know you are going for it all four downs all the way down the field.

[@alextrivunovic644]

@@KoreyKruse in OT you should be doing that anyway.

[@alextrivunovic644]

The coaches clearly knew the rules.

[@jeffsherwood5259]

If y’all “understand” why Shanahan did what he did due to a lack of data for this situation, kindly explain why 1) Patrick Mahomes was fighting back a smirk after hearing SF call to receive at mid-field, and 2) why KC bench was elated that SF wanted the ball first. Andy Reid and Company is just that much better on all the little details.

[@tobi_versace]

It doesn't matter what choice was made. The niners couldn't score, the chiefs did. That's what matters

[@davidhoekstra4620]

It's simple, if you kick-off, you don't have to guess when you get the ball. You know what the other team did, so you know what you have to do. You can make perfect decisions.

[@stephenhanft1226]

With taking the ball first in Overtime, Shanahan made one of the worst coaching mistakes in Super Bowl history. His explanation fails in logic. He said that the strategy was to be able to go third. He expected for both teams to match each other with either 3 points or 7 points remaining tied and then they get the third possession under sudden death where the next team that scores wins. Here is the problem: The Chiefs were going to make sure that the outcome is already decided and the 49ers never see a third possession. If the 49ers settle for a field goal on their opening possession, the Chiefs are not settling for a field goal when they go second. If they are in 49ers territory, and in field goal range and it's 4th down, knowing Andy Reid, he's going for it (unless it's like 4th and 20). The Chiefs are thinking touchdown to win, not field goal to tie. So, trading 3's to get to a third possession is not happening. Also, if the 49ers score a touchdown and kick the extra point on their first possession, the Chiefs players have already said that they would've scored the touch down and gone for a 2-point-conversion to win it. If they convert, they win by 1. If they don't convert, they lose by 1. Either way, the 49ers are not going to see a third possession. The only way Shanahan and the 49ers could guarantee themselves of getting a third possession by taking the ball first was to go down and score a touchdown and making a 2-point-conversion. That way, the Chiefs can't win the game with going second. The best the Chiefs can do is tie the game with a touchdown and a 2-point conversion which would give Shanahan the 3rd possession now under sudden death where the next team that scores, wins. Well, we saw what happened. On 4th and 4 at the 9, Shanahan opted to kick the field goal instead of going for the touchdown and Mahomes then drove the ball down the field for the winning touchdown. Even if the 49ers score a touchdown on their first possession, knowing how conservative Shanahan is, they would've kicked the extra point instead of going for the 2-point- conversion with the Chiefs then knowing that a touchdown and 2-point conversion wins the game which is exactly what they planned to do. So, Kyle Shanahan's reasons for choosing to get the ball first was completely wrong and cost them the game in overtime. Also, the baseball analogy is correct. If you have the choice, you always want to have the last at bat. That way, you'll know what you need to either tie or win. Going first, there is always an uncertainty whether or not you scored enough. Going second, there is no such uncertainty.

[@dog-gz2qg]

I don't play professional football and I knew the rules why wouldn't someone who makes millions come on this is professional football know your game 🎯

[@bobg1069]

I'm a Brit , never played and never even saw a recorded game until I was 22 and I knew the rules for OT.

[@FizzzieCat]

49ers also didn't want Mahomes to have 2 possessions. 49ers screwed up their 3rd down and the Chiefs didn't make any mistakes with their possession. if 49ers could have touched down, then a SB win was almost guaranteed with a 3rd down field goal.

[@thewisegamer.4626]

Yup 100%, after hearing the explanation i can see that it was a good strategy, but why didn't they risk it and tried for a touch down. gambling on holding mahomes to a field goal at that point in the game is not a wise decision at all.

[@abc_12333]

100% disagree. If the 49ers get the ball second, they know EXACTLY what you need to win the game. If Mahomes ends up punting or getting just a field goal, Brock Purdy gets 4 DOWNS to score a game winning TD! Why give Mahomes 4 downs???

[@FizzzieCat]

@@abc_12333 49ers defence was also shot.

[@tlindsey1966]

Chiefs would have gone for 2 if they got a touchdown after SF got a touchdown.

[@edwardwong654]

I have thought about this really hard and there is no data to historical data to analyze. In this format, there is nothing more valuable than having the extra down by receiving 2nd. Doesn't matter if its Mahomes, or whoever. It doesn't matter about the sudden death, at the time of the start of OT. Every decision has their own tradeoffs and I think this decision is a little overblown. The Chiefs simply outplayed and beat the Niners.

[@jeajea]

thank you for shedding light on shanahan's faulty thinking. if you're taking the ball first, you HAVE to score a TD (possibly even go for 2) because that's the only way you don't lose the game. You have to assume team 2 will score a TD. The correct choice would have been to go 2nd and allow your 2nd year quarterback an extra down on each series as opposed to giving Mahomes the extra downs to play with

[@davidstick9207]

Instead...people should read between the lines. No one had faith Purdy could pull off a touchdown if KC scored one first. So...they took their chances

[@corystovall3544]

Ok... but the Chiefs were always going for two so there was never going to be a 3rd possession. If you are so worried about the D being gassed then go for the onside kick. You dont get it. Oh well. Bow up in the redzone. Dont stop them? Ok. Now you have the ball and should you score a touchdown it is your turn to go for 2 and end this thang.

[@kristopherhorwath8756]

"Common sense department " Exactly! Just like analytics say CALL the check raise on the river... But common sense department says "your playing Phil Ivey"

[@bobg1069]

Isn't that the HC? What's the HC there for if a computer need calls the strategy?

[@AlexGeorgebowling]

If the 49ers scored a touchdown, the Chiefs were going to go for 2 after scoring a touchdown

[@josephgarcia4475]

Or you could of not blown another 10 point lead in a sb

[@johnbox271]

Don't be silly. 😉

[@peterogers8995]

I spent more time reporting all the spam bots than I did reading the comments, some admins need to wake up lol

[@jacobpule6390]

If Shanahan was scared to go for it on 4th and 4 in OT. There’s NO WAY he goes for 2 if they get a TD. Shanahan is hilarious. Go Chiefs

[@amandavaldez2462]

He was scared. If they got a TD his offense would not make a 2 point conversion.

[@DLC007]

Kyle and accountability are like oil and water. Sick of that dude.

[@glenndiorio8967]

Love it how everyone knows the correct answer. Either way, it's a toss up to me. You get ball, you score TD, other team gets ball, scores TD. Game tied. You get ball back, kick FG, game over! What's so hard about the choice? Had they done exactly that, coaches would be hero's.

[@justino4406]

I think where people are getting confused is that the logic doesn't follow through. If the plan is to take the ball first, because you want to ensure you have the 3rd possession, then you have to go for it on 4th down in the red zone and score the touchdown, then go for two. A TD +2 is the only way to ensure you get that opportunity of a 3rd possession. Taking the ball first is the aggressive approach but then you have to continue to be aggressive to make it work.

[@glenndiorio8967]

@@justino4406 Partially true. Yes, score 8 (if you're sure) and the other team has to score 8 to give you the third possession. Then just kick for 3 and win. OR, you take ball, do a 3 and out, they get ball and do a 3 and out, you get ball and kick FG. Win! Same result. Of course, you take ball first, defense gets a TD, you lose. Or, take ball, kick FG, other team doesn't score...win. Same problem is there, nobody has a correct answer in this case becasue they're bashing the 49er desicion. If'a, could'a, should'a, would'a...it's all relevant.

[@justino4406]

⁠@@glenndiorio8967 I agree but the conversation isn’t about 100% because nothing is 100% in the NFL, it is talking about what gives your team the best chance to win. From everything I have seen/read, the only way taking the ball first gives your team the best chance to win, is if you score a TD (at the very least) but more preferred a TD +2 as that guarantees the possession advantage. If you take the football first, your mindset has to be TD or bust. Taking the ball and settling for 3 seems like one of the worst outcomes as now you give the other team 4 downs and also the “possession advantage” is now gone as team 2 can win the game outright simply with a TD. The numbers are constantly changing but the fact people are defending him taking the ball first (makes sense) but then settling for a FG (doesn’t make sense if the reason to take the ball is to have the “possession advantage” but you just gave that away).

[@AlexGeorgebowling]

The Chiefs were going to go for 2 if the 49ers had scored a touchdown

[@glenndiorio8967]

@@AlexGeorgebowling The Chiefs won, yes. However, this is all about decision making and reasons. IF, the 49ers scored 8, the Chiefs would be forced to score 8. Next possesion or score, wins. Pretty dang simple, but everyone is second guessing because they lost, that's all. We'll never know and alternative, we just keep guessing.

[@henrywc6494]

Problem is not receiving first, it was arrogant and delusional but there is a logic. The problem is he got scared and didn't trust his offense in the 4th and 4 and kicked the FG. So Shanahan didn't commit fully to the risky and IMO reckless decision. You had to score a touchdown and 2point to force KC to tie and not give them chance to win until the 2nd overtime.

[@kentpepper4450]

There was never going to be a 3rd possession according the Chiefs. 49ers were going the get the ball even if the chiefs won the toss, the Chiefs were going to defer.

[@amandavaldez2462]

If chiefs won the toss, they were going to take it second. 49ers were going to take it first. Chiefs play smart. Good smart coaches on their side. 😊

[@antman6523]

The chiefs were never going to allow it to go to the next possession be ause they want to control the game and not allow you too. So shanahan outsmarted himself.

[@balleraap007]

Aka choked

[@FrankDBoyce]

There would be so many more people complaining if they had deferred and lost, guaranteed

[@abc_12333]

Not really. Because the rules have changed. EACH team now gets a possession. That's why the complaints are there in the first place.

[@logika05]

Kyle messed up...tired of him

[@mikemike6182]

Even if u don't know the rule, u don't give mahome 4th down 😂

[@grizlee1719]

Great game. Could have gone either way. This was like a good heavy weight battle. Can't wait to see them tee it up a 3rd time next year.

[@albertjiminez1144]

I believe in this new format, if you choose to take the ball because you are facing Mahomes, you must score a touchdown and a 2-point conversion. Unless you are really backed up like 4th and 7 plus, you don't kick it. That way, when Mahomes gets the ball and matches it, you can win sudden death on a field goal. On a side note, had that happened and Mahomes lost, the NFL would change the playoff overtime rules to more of an inning-like overtime.

[@thud9797]

The NFL doesn't change anything. A team may submit a proposed rule change and then the 32 NFL OWNERS will all vote on whether or not that change happens.

[@albertjiminez1144]

​@thud9797 if only there was a series of three words that could identify the collection of 32 individual teams. Just three words that can identify this league of football teams that play on the national level.

[@pepenips5095]

But KC were going to go for 2 if they got a touchdown, he Fed up they were never going to touch that ball again

[@pepenips5095]

Also you are giving Pat 1 extra down

[@jacobpule6390]

I think Shanahan is terrible. He’s made terrible decisions to lose them 2 Super Bowls. Plus. I can’t take a head coach seriously if he wears a stupid straight cap. Haha. He should have 2 rings if he just stayed true to himself. How long can the 49ers let this man ruin their chances.

[@talldave7799]

Using "Analytics" is a crutch and an excuse here to deflect blame! There is no historical data to base a decisioin on with the NEW rules! There has been only ONE over-time game since the rule change in 2021. So, relying on historical data is criminally iresponsible when there is only been ONE occurrence! You only rely on Analytics when there are obvious trends in the data.

[@tlindsey1966]

Chiefs would have gone for 2 if both teams got a touchdown in overtime. They wouldn’t let it get to sudden death.

[@tylonwilliams1299]

Stop making excuses bro yall lost fair and square grow up 🤣

[@ghostmane2643]

Was he making an excuse or answering a question?

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

Couldn't beat the broncos or raiders. Were literally rigged to be in the Superbowl. Should've known when they used Swift for views and to get more chicks to watch football. It worked and they put the team that'd make them the most in sales merch in the Superbowl. Half the division beat the chiefs last time they played them. They aren't good enough to be at the broncos or raiders

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

Since you have 1 game losing streaks to the broncos and raiders I'd say the chiefs are a joke and definitely were "selected" and "put" in the Superbowl. They can't even beat the broncos or raiders. What kind of league is this the national fixed league

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

Next year time to lose to the broncos AND raiders again

[@Mike_Sm00th]

Literally zero excuses lol he just answered the question saying he made the choice he made.

[@dougjames6995]

No wonder they fired Steve Wilks as his defense did not held its own in overtime like the KC defense didn't allow 49ers a touchdown.

[@Sam-fp1cd]

Going offense first wasn't a terrible play, but at minimum they had to get a TD. Have to shut down any hope for Mahomes/Chiefs winning on their attempt. As a Niners fan, watching them opt for a FG was painful to watch. Unless the defense was pristine, game was over.

[@kashaw33]

Don't trip too hard, it's the NFL nothing should be unexpected! Vegas owns all sports now so it is what it is!

[@howardseigle]

I don't see the debate. Giving Patrick Mahomes 4 downs is the WRONG decision. The Chiefs knew why you want the second possession.

[@Tony-k9i]

Dont matter a champion would take ball and scored then smash their offense

[@kevinhagberg1648]

he can scheme up a great offense byt he isn't cut out for Head Coaching duties.

[@edscott4729]

Dude's analysis is dumb because the Chiefs were planning to go for two if they scored a TD.

[@ksh9504]

Are you telling me bunch of millionaires not one kñows the rules of there job

[@carlosmontecillo9207]

I think this is Shanahan overthinking in the biggest stage of football has to offer.

[@javierfernandez893]

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[@mntnflyr4fun]

what is AMZPKK???

[@pjhunt4135]

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[@ubub932]

let's start using some football analogies, metaphors and comparisons for describing controversial manager decisions in baseball . . . please? 👀

[@Insanityzep]

Why are the Super Bowl OT rules different than the regular season OT rules? That’s dumb.

[@ncmassey1]

Regular season games can end in a tie. The Super Bowl can't.

[@Insanityzep]

@@ncmassey1 so say both teams score td’s and successfully go for two in the ten minute period. What happens after the 10 minute period?

[@basedsilly]

@@Insanityzep then there is another period.

[@rygellgajadin8678]

They did it out of pity for Josh Allen. Bills went crying to the NFL office in 2020, after they could not stop Mahomes in OT.

[@Insanityzep]

@@basedsilly so why are the rules different in SB? Just keep it the same.

[@jagelves]

Defer or not, they were losing the game

[@Randomsitos]

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[@TNKAMARA]

FortyWhiners

[@jareou]

Just goes to show. Shanahan is a fake coach, HE should have been fired. He changes Wilks call and then looked what happened.

[@jerrstubbs439]

Seahawks fans like this. Booo9ers. 🔽🔽🔽

[@dsc4178]

SF did nothing wrong, his defence didn't do its job.

[@Joshua-xg7pg]

Sometimes i think that analytics is paid to take the fall in every crticized decisions that these coaches make. I mean who can prove it and show that the analytics did say that it was the best decision?

[@robertm3951]

There was no data for analytics. This was the first overtime under the new rules. Blaming analytics is either a lack of understanding of analytics or a cop-out.

[@dog-gz2qg]

GO CHIEFS 🎶🎉😂

[@gamersg7328]

Hello 😊

[@martinnielsen5805]

hello

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

This same team couldnt beat the raiders or broncos at the end of the season and used swift for views and you guys actually believe they made it to the Superbowl with no rigging 😂

[@AlexGeorgebowling]

Let me get your bottle ready 🍼

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

@@AlexGeorgebowling more like your bottle 🍼 you the raiders and broncos have 1 game win streaks on you. Look it up. Not my fault you don't watch football

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

@@AlexGeorgebowling first beat the Broncos and raiders before you try to pick on others. Go broncos

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

@AlexGeorgebowling last time your team played mine we whooped you. Same with Crosby and the raiders. Mahomes couldn't do anything. I just can't wait to beat you again next year so I can watch your fans cry again leaving the stands from OUR stadium.

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

@AlexGeorgebowling Think about it like this Russell Wilson and the Broncos aka one of the worst teams whooped yall

[@santiagodejesus7632]

So how in the hell is everyones favorite topic AMZPKK ?

[@pjhunt4135]

Spam bots

[@gabrielwright5439]

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[@bluecrasher7710]

Aight bet

[@srl7997]

Why?

[@brendenyoung3160]

@@srl7997read the comment again buddy

[@srl7997]

@@brendenyoung3160 but why, pal?

[@brendenyoung3160]

@@srl7997 literally says for no reason

[@johnnymartinARTIST]

Talk about a HOSTAGE VIDEO...these 2 are sad,sad...looks like they just stole Dad's car and crashed it..."Which one of you is the U-BOAT COMMANDER?"

[@CodyCabo-q4h]

Thats not even good of those people be referee and the headphones didn't or hear, the field goal wasn't made well handled

[@antman6523]

How.many of these tech nerds ever played the sport? You cant account for the FEEL of the game, and making a rstional decision base don that... maybe stop asking tech nerds and ask your gut.

[@linelltillman9709]

Game was rigged for KC to win anyway so didn't matter what he chosen

[@ajizzle8334]

Exactly the chiefs the only team that knew about the ot change in preseason and practice for it 🤦🏾‍♂️ chiefs were getting beat up until the muffed punt and 4th quarter changes now if they didn’t know they didn’t but it’s wild

[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

Yeah they couldn't beat the raiders or broncos 😂 and made it to a Superbowl same year they used Swift for views ... I'm not buying it. Plus the returner should've called for a fair catch would've prevented his player coming close enough on the punt to even of hit his foot. If he did a fair catch the players wouldn't of kept coming near him.

[@mondorubio1552]

⁠@@ajizzle8334You're a fool the rule change was Memo to all teams and organizations as well as the public can observe it! 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@arturogarcia5755]

Crybabies like you should just stop watching the games then. I'm not sure whats more pathetic. The "its rigged" losers or the "refs are at fault" losers. Stick to tennis. Or Golf.

[@GenoOwings]

Just shut up about all the rigging BS! It's not rigged, do you know what it would take to rig an NFL game? Just shut up!

[@TomZart]

TRAVIS KELCE SUPER BOWL SONG * The stands are full of eager fans Who say, we're paid too much money! But if they would put our suits on They'd find football isn't funny. Twenty-two men and five referees Chasing a pigskin, air filled ball. Mashing and bashing all the way Till the striped shirts whistle their call. All the generals on the sideline Are waging their athletic war. And the letters in the words they use Never amount to more than four. There's no substitute for winning And no excuse for losing. Though after games; when we can't sleep It's because of all the bruising. By Kansas City Poet Tom Zart

[@bryce2922]

If the 49ers took the ball second and still ended up losing, all the pundits would be saying "why did you take the ball second? your defense was gassed and your offense has historically struggled when playing from behind." Bottom line, if you lose, you'll get dragged over the coals whichever decision you made.

[@johnnylam5360]

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[@Esco-lq4rb]

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[@LowkeyNeo]

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[@MultiPabloe]

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[@centertonarkansastyrantpatrol]

Thw chiefs cant beat the broncos or raiders yet can win a Superbowl. Same year using swift for views. Sounds rigged to me.

[@SB-gd7mh]

Whether you receive or kick first with the new rules shouldn’t matter, you just know you need a touchdown no matter what

[@SlingshotFooty]

You don't need a touchdown if your D forces a punt or turnover. That's information you don't know at the coin toss. This is why you always want to go on D first. ALWAYS

[@elikramer9234]

The first possession sets the tone. Once the 49ers kicked a FG, the chiefs got a security blanket barring a turnover. Kick a FG and tie or win with TD. If you get first possession, you almost always have to score TD or you give the other team a chance to win the game. 4 or more points - TD a must 3 or less - FG or TD I’d rather see my options before I play offense. Now I know that this is not always guaranteed, but it’s close.

[@darrylmars]

Let the whining begin